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Old 12-21-2005, 02:43 PM   #401
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Well, since it seems unless im accusing and arguing with someone no one talks, i might as well start again. And this one is my leading candiate with respect to Mcsweeney odd play, taz's utter silence, ardents ^^^, raider with the whole posse and surviving the close battle with saldana....

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Old 12-21-2005, 02:52 PM   #402
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Sorry to see ya go buddy, i had just figured out you a villager for sure too...well miss ya, as especially this game we cant afford to lose more vocal guys...half our team doesnt ever talk....see you next game or when i die buddy. Or around town


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Old 12-21-2005, 03:55 PM   #403
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VOTE pennywisesb

Talk about a guy a didn't even notice was playing. Looking back, every single one of his posts have been complete fluff, he's added nothing to the conversation this entire game.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:03 PM   #404
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VOTE pennywisesb

Talk about a guy a didn't even notice was playing. Looking back, every single one of his posts have been complete fluff, he's added nothing to the conversation this entire game.

So why not vote for me? I haven't contributed anything either according to you. Go ahead and take a chance on killing a villager just because they are quiet, that's a great strategy.

My thing is that there are so many people coming up with good theories in this game, most of the time there seems to be nothing important for me to add without echoing others. As I said before, I've been busy and it's hard to scrutinize every post since I don't have endless time on the board.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:24 PM   #405
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Since I'll be out playing Madden for a while this evening and may not be back, I'll

VOTE PENNYWISESB since I voted for him yesterday and I still think he's suspicious.

I would vote for Barkeep since he was the one leading the charge against me yesterday, but I doubt a wolf would do that on the second day.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:29 PM   #406
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Since I'll be out playing Madden for a while this evening and may not be back, I'll

VOTE PENNYWISESB since I voted for him yesterday and I still think he's suspicious.

I would vote for Barkeep since he was the one leading the charge against me yesterday, but I doubt a wolf would do that on the second day.

he lead the charge against you when the other leading canidate was a wolf...that doesnt sound odd?
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:30 PM   #407
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So why not vote for me? I haven't contributed anything either according to you. Go ahead and take a chance on killing a villager just because they are quiet, that's a great strategy.

My thing is that there are so many people coming up with good theories in this game, most of the time there seems to be nothing important for me to add without echoing others. As I said before, I've been busy and it's hard to scrutinize every post since I don't have endless time on the board.

Would you assume I vote Blade since he is actually helping us? What the fuck do you want from me Schmidty? I called you out, you responded well enough to make me back off a little. I wish while you were busying shitting on every post I make that you would instead take that time and throw your ideas out there. The more minds we have working together the better.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:50 PM   #408
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Board's back up and SnDvls is gone. In trying to figure out why he was the one killed, I think it was his vote against ardent that did it.

VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

This is a very wolf-like move. SnDvls was the 1st person to vote last round, and the only person to ever vote for ardent. Why would the wolves kill him for that? They didn't.

SnDvls died because he started the bandwagon for Raiders Army. The wolves must've assumed he knew something (i.e. role) so they took him out to protect RA. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me.

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Old 12-21-2005, 04:59 PM   #409
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Dola,

I also wanted to say I won't be able to check in later, (my GF has a "mandatory" Christmas party--mandatory for ME that is) so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a wolf lynch. Later.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:33 PM   #410
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he lead the charge against you when the other leading canidate was a wolf...that doesnt sound odd?

As Raiders talked more and I started to believe him more and more. If you noticed he responded to several things I said and I basically didn't say anything, despite being around, rather than continue the argument. I only responded in the morning when he called me out. If I hadn't been so vocal about voting for Raiders, I would have changed to saldana earlier, but I felt any switch at that point made me look very suspicious, no matter what the outcome was. I think this unease is evident in my last post. When Grammaticus posted his reveal that gave me what I needed to be able to make the switch. I understand your suspicion but I'd rather draw a little suspicion rather than have made the wrong vote about someone. I think several games, not to mention the game I ran, show how concerned I am about being right. That is what I go for above all else in my votes and while I was late to getting it right, in the end I did get it right.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:39 PM   #411
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Also about the posse, I count three of us who are part of it. Raiders and I are the obvious ones, but there is one other player, and not who Blade identified, who I believe is a member.

The board outage to me seems to have given us less to go on than normal. Ardent to me has played the same game he normally plays: full of great logic and great emotion. I certainly think he could be a wolf, but don't see any gameplay that is significantly different.

I'm going to do something risky. Rather than jump on something someone else has said I'm going to go with a new direction: dacman. He's a new player but has played a very smart game. He changed his vote right before saldana does. Was it because saldana gave permission knowing the vote was still close at that point, but so dacman would seem to be in the clear if he did go down? Seems to me that dacman might have help from outside sources.
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Old 12-21-2005, 06:40 PM   #412
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Double dola -- Forgot to actually Vote Dacman
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:05 PM   #413
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UNVOTE PENNYWISESB
VOTE DACMAN

Glad I came back on. Doing it because:

1. He voted for me.
2. I didn't feel good voting for penny since I'm not sure he's a wolf.

Dacman, on the other hand....I'm an easy target, so I know the wolves would rather have me lynched than eat me.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:27 PM   #414
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Pretty quiet out there right now. I'm gone for the night as I have to get the kids in the shower and settle down for a long winter's nap.

Good luck to us and I hope we get a wolf.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:36 PM   #415
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I need to vote. I have to make sure I get a vote in now, because I don't know what opportunities I'll have for the net the rest of the night.

I'm going....gosh, I don't know. I have to believe Sndvls death was to try and set me up. Wolves don't typically kill someone for nothing. At least, when I've been a wolf, that's been my experience.


Vote Dacman.

I have no solid reason to do so, other than
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:37 PM   #416
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other than

Other than what? You can't leave me hanging like that
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:38 PM   #417
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Other than what? You can't leave me hanging like that

Wow. How did that happen?
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:40 PM   #418
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I need to vote. I have to make sure I get a vote in now, because I don't know what opportunities I'll have for the net the rest of the night.

I'm going....gosh, I don't know. I have to believe Sndvls death was to try and set me up. Wolves don't typically kill someone for nothing. At least, when I've been a wolf, that's been my experience.


Vote Dacman.

I have no solid reason to do so, other than

shoot. I can't even remember how I finished this sentence. I was just blabbering, honestly.
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Old 12-21-2005, 07:56 PM   #419
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Rather than jump on something someone else has said I'm going to go with a new direction: dacman. He's a new player but has played a very smart game.
I think this is a neat ploy to turn attention away from the real wolf. Dacman hasn't done anything to make him look anything close to suspicious. I'm still looking for that tell-tale sign from someone. But it's not Dacman.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:17 PM   #420
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After a quick read-through, this dead-weight votes:

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Old 12-21-2005, 08:24 PM   #421
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RPI -- I haven't gone through and done a tally but if we don't have everyone's vote I would be in favor of a 12 hour extention considering the board outage.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:30 PM   #422
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How long was the board out?
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:41 PM   #423
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How long was the board out?
Well I don't know when it came back up but it was down for the whole morning.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:44 PM   #424
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:49 PM   #425
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Well I don't know when it came back up but it was down for the whole morning.
Guess I was lucky. My roommate slept in today.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:51 PM   #426
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VOTE BARKEEP

He's too eager to indict Dacman, and he's too eager to get over his bandwagon jumping from the last day cycle. By going after a relatively quiet person, he's drawing attention away from himself.
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:52 PM   #427
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i pray im wrong like not thinking saldana was a wolf, but i have a bad feeling were getting taken here....im out for a bit, so i hope dacman is a wolf i guess
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:02 PM   #428
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i pray im wrong like not thinking saldana was a wolf, but i have a bad feeling were getting taken here....im out for a bit, so i hope dacman is a wolf i guess
I have to say the alacrity at which people have joined the dacman bandwagon is rather disconcerting to me as well. I think there have to be a wolf or two amongst the votes for him. If he is a wolf it'll make them seem innocent. If he's innocent, they'll have blended into the crowd.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:35 PM   #429
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I could certainly peel my vote off, but I do have some reasoning for my vote.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:36 PM   #430
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I don't _think_ we're missing any votes -- can someone confirm?
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:44 PM   #431
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I don't _think_ we're missing any votes -- can someone confirm?
you don't have my vote yet, just got back in. give me a few minutes to process what's gone on and then i'll vote
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:50 PM   #432
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:57 PM   #433
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first RA jumps on pennywise for being quiet.
Then RA picks up a vote from dacman
Barkeep votes for dacman
RA switches his vote to dacman
AE votes for dacman
bandwagon is in full effect as Taz and Schmidty each jump on dacman

Barkeep saying he wants to vote for dacman because he's a new player AND has played a smart game seems kind of strange to me. He says he likes to be 100% correct and then in the next breath says he's going to make a very risky move. He then suspects dacman of getting outside help. I don't like it. SO....

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Old 12-21-2005, 09:58 PM   #434
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:00 PM   #435
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dola

i'd also like to note that i'm a bit curious about Raider's Army. He's been voting and unvoting like crazy today.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:13 PM   #436
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He says he likes to be 100% correct and then in the next breath says he's going to make a very risky move.
This risk is in not going along with the crowd. Of course the crowd seems to be with me now.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:16 PM   #437
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Watching Lost right now...the episode where they show what happened to the tail section survivors. I feel like that's where we're at right now. We're all trying to figure out who is who, and we got a friggin wolf right there with us.

Come to think of it...a "Lost" werewolf game would be kind of cool.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:25 PM   #438
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I really think you need to take a look at RA for the following

1- He started the bandwagon on St, Cronin, (dubb and barkeep had 2 votes at time) and Saldana a know wolf was an the table with one vote. Also Saldana was the first to vote for St. Cronin. Then he says king started the swing (trying to cover himself)
2- He said in the last game everyone who voted for the first round lynch was a villager, trying to set himself and Saldana up as Villagers
3- RA votes and unvotes all the time, spreading himself out making it hard to establish a patter, very wolfish
4- RA says Barkeep outed him on the posse, but RA is the one that said he was in it.
5- Saldana switches to RA trying to throw off suspision. Sal knows he will get outed as a wolf and his vote will look good on RA
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:26 PM   #439
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Unvote dacman
Vote Raiders
Want to get this in before the deadline. His voting has been strange. The bandwagon against dacman was too easy.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:27 PM   #440
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Posse? I think I need to reread some posts.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:27 PM   #441
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sorry had to type fast as the deadline is just a few minutes away. I meant to be more descriptive on each point, but I think the points are fairly clear. I think RA is a wolf.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:29 PM   #442
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Posse? I think I need to reread some posts.
Did I spell it wrong?

It's 4 to 3, dacman to RA. Anyone want to switch, make it fast.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:31 PM   #443
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If dacman is dead, and hes a villager, then im even more confident that barkeep is a wolf..i cast the first vote today, first vote for him, a bandwagon comes along on someone else started by barkeep, then he trys to pull out after it looks like dacman is dead(i presume becuase dacman will be a villager and barkeep wants to look good for not voting him). if dacman is a wolf, my whole mentality this game is off....i suspect its going to be the first though.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:32 PM   #444
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Anyone know how to make excel columns look nice here? I've been keeping track of the reasons people have claimed they have voted for the past couple of days and want to post it in case I'm killed tonight.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM   #445
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3 on barkeep too if im not mistaken
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM   #446
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Also, I don't think pennywise voted, that maks two rounds he skipped. Not sure if that means anything or if he is out Christmas shopping. Thats were I was and just couldn't get back in time to start posting earlier.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM   #447
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If dacman is dead, and hes a villager, then im even more confident that barkeep is a wolf..i cast the first vote today, first vote for him, a bandwagon comes along on someone else started by barkeep, then he trys to pull out after it looks like dacman is dead(i presume becuase dacman will be a villager and barkeep wants to look good for not voting him). if dacman is a wolf, my whole mentality this game is off....i suspect its going to be the first though.
I want to get the vote right. Late events, part of which is my going through the votes to record the reasons, make me think that dac is innocent. I wish I had done so 10 minutes earlier as then perhaps ardent would have been swayed.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM   #448
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I also do not have penny voting.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM   #449
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3 on barkeep too if im not mistaken
Correct.
Final count should be 4 dac, 3 raiders, 3 bk

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Old 12-21-2005, 10:39 PM   #450
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3 on barkeep too if im not mistaken
True, but I didn't see anyone pushing a shift to Barkeep. Actually, I think Barkeep is okay, but not sure. I have a stronger feeling that Dacman and Ardent are on the up and up.

I'm very suspicious about RA and Blade, you are looking suspicious as well. Pennywise has not given us much to go on and has missed 2 votes, so I think he is a problem as well.
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