Werewolf XXVII: Solecismic Asylum (GAME OVER - MANIACS WIN)

[dubb93]

VOTE BARKEEP

I can vouche that this isn't just a "simple" game as far as roles go, atleast after seeing my role and seeing what was in McKerney's room.

[st.cronin]

I'm very puzzled by Blade's comments ... they seem desperate. I just want to point out that in game's past he typically draws a lot of suspicion as a good guy. I'm not sure how he would play were he a maniac, but something doesn't feel right. I do trust Barkeep, since I think him and I are in a similiar place.

for now

UNVOTE BLADE

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by dubb93

VOTE BARKEEP

I can vouche that this isn't just a "simple" game as far as roles go, atleast after seeing my role and seeing what was in McKerney's room.

This post has the ring of authenticity, but I believe your conclusions are wrong. Of course, this is werewolf, so that's not a knock on your iq or anything.

[Poli]

Vote Ardent Enthusiast

[Tyrith]

From reading prior games it does seem that Blade gets a lot of undue heat because of his skilled play and occasionally abrasive personality. It would make a great cover for mischief if he didn't get killed early, but he's dancing with flame too much for me to believe he's a maniac right now.

However, Barkeep's generalization concerns me, as it seems to contradict with everything I've seen so far. This is definately subject to change, but for now:

VOTE BARKEEP

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Vote Ardent Enthusiast

Dude, get djibouti back into WW, i miss you.

[Schmidty]

In my game, the people who floated under the radar were the WWs (other than hoops), and I think the same thing will be the case in this game.

Vote tanglewood

[path12]

You can braid intestines, you know.

Unvote Cronin
Vote Lathum

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

In my game, the people who floated under the radar were the WWs (other than hoops), and I think the same thing will be the case in this game.

Vote tanglewood

Look Blade I'm appearing when people are talking about me again!

Well, I was 'under the radar' in the last game and not a wolf, and so far in this game have been more active (middle of the pack I'd guess) and am not a wolf again. So....

I really don't understand why Barkeep is being gone after just because he has said he doesn't have anything to hide, or any special role. I know it's day two and we don't have much, but that's totally spurious grounds for an acusation methinks.

[tanglewood]

Vote count by my reckoning:

Barkeep: Lathum [190], Blade [200], Dubb [201], Tyrith [205]
Blade: Anxiety [194], Barkeep [199]
Tanglewood: SnDvls [193], Schmitdy [207]
Lathum: Tanglewood [196], Path [208]
Dubb: Saldana [189]

Not Voted: Qwikshot, St. Cronin

[saldana]

i have the beginnings of both a circle of trust and a suspect list working, which i will most likely reveal later on after the vote.

and since my venn diagram is intersecting with his name in bright lights,
unvote dubb93
vote Barkeep49

it really helps in this game when you are a mathmetician...my great grandfather actually created the pythagorean theorem.

[st.cronin]

Vote Lathum

[Blade6119]

Well cronin and barkeep are becoming a pair, and dubb, myself, and tyrith are starting to align, with saldana trying to attach himself it would seem. Interesting how this will play out

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Well cronin and barkeep are becoming a pair, and dubb, myself, and tyrith are starting to align, with saldana trying to attach himself it would seem. Interesting how this will play out

i dont really like the connotation of that statement... i happen to agree with you, that doesnt mean i am trying to attach myself to you...my reasons for agreement actually have actually nothing to do with you, other than i am not prepared to vote for someone who could be valuable to our catching the maniacs without good reason. and speaking of attachments...when i was born,i had a conjoined fetus on my ass...its still there....wanna see?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by saldana

i dont really like the connotation of that statement... i happen to agree with you, that doesnt mean i am trying to attach myself to you...my reasons for agreement actually have actually nothing to do with you, other than i am not prepared to vote for someone who could be valuable to our catching the maniacs without good reason. and speaking of attachments...when i was born,i had a conjoined fetus on my ass...its still there....wanna see?

I dont care to see, but thank you. Im merely stating that cronin and barkeep have attached together by saying they believe themselves to be in the same boat, and i believe dubb, myself, and possibly tyrinth are in the same boat. The fact you unvoted dubb and voted barkeep is why i said it...im just commenting, not accusing...but those two groups are forming like it or not

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Well cronin and barkeep are becoming a pair, and dubb, myself, and tyrith are starting to align, with saldana trying to attach himself it would seem. Interesting how this will play out

The fact that you publically said that means you are either A) trustworthy and not afraid to admit who you trust, or B) You (the homicidal psychos)are splitting your circles of trust between each other so that you cannot be linked.

I don't know which one is true, but it'll be interesting to observe this situation.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I dont care to see, but thank you. Im merely stating that cronin and barkeep have attached together by saying they believe themselves to be in the same boat, and i believe dubb, myself, and possibly tyrinth are in the same boat. The fact you unvoted dubb and voted barkeep is why i said it...im just commenting, not accusing...but those two groups are forming like it or not

Do you think there is any significance in the groupings?

[Schmidty]

Dola.

You should know better than to edit your post Blade. It's a blatant disregard to WW rules.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

The fact that you publically said that means you are either A) trustworthy and not afraid to admit who you trust, or B) You (the homicidal psychos)are splitting your circles of trust between each other so that you cannot be linked.

I don't know which one is true, but it'll be interesting to observe this situation.

I assume B is probably true, regardless of which side Blade is on. It would be crazy for the badguys to link themselves together.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Dola.

You should know better than to edit your post Blade. It's a blatant disregard to WW rules.

Agreed, but i made a statement to him about something i said, which i realized i never actually said...i came off as a prick, and defending something i never said.

Though, to be fair, the editing posts was about posts with votes in them if im not mistaken. The problem with it is if people go back in the future they dont see a different post...if editing less then a minute after posting i cheated, im sorry.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Do you think there is any significance in the groupings?

I would think so only for dubb and myself/barkeep and cronin...past that no...i dont know if barkeep and cronin really are just simple, but i have a role and a power(not one that i can use, but a power), as well as king saying we were all unique and mckerney coming up with his french role...i just find it very hard to believe king would say we are all unique, but cronin and barkeep are both simple villagers...that make sense to you?

[tanglewood]

I think trying to form ideas about groups this early is tad dangerous. It's still only day 2 and we haven't even had a night kill to throw us any information, so I think most people are still going on hunches. It would be very unwise to get into an us v them mindset so early when we know so little.

[Blade6119]

and past that no, as now the wolves will pick sides or avoid it...it only really works for people who first brought up the debate...now, and even before tyrinth posted, it is moot...but for those 4 it should hold fairly true

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

I think trying to form ideas about groups this early is tad dangerous. It's still only day 2 and we haven't even had a night kill to throw us any information, so I think most people are still going on hunches. It would be very unwise to get into an us v them mindset so early when we know so little.

Unless im mistaken though, we have no conversions(besides cursed or blessed)...so using what we can to get groups of trust is important unlike last game...as its highly unlikely players will be switching sides this game

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Unless im mistaken though, we have no conversions(besides cursed or blessed)...so using what we can to get groups of trust is important unlike last game...as its highly unlikely players will be switching sides this game

Agreed. It's very important we figure out how to win THIS game, not the last game.

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Unless im mistaken though, we have no conversions(besides cursed or blessed)...so using what we can to get groups of trust is important unlike last game...as its highly unlikely players will be switching sides this game

Yes I agree that circles of trust are important. Just that it's still only day 2 so I think we can't really start to form them yet.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Yes I agree that circles of trust are important. Just that it's still only day 2 so I think we can't really start to form them yet.

And when do we? After they kill a few players? I think we were given information three times this game...our intitial roles, the first lynch, and the first night. I believe we must use all three as best we can and not wait for king to hand-feed us info(which he wont do)...waiting in WW is always a very bad thing, no matter what the topic.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

And when do we? After they kill a few players? I think we were given information three times this game...our intitial roles, the first lynch, and the first night. I believe we must use all three as best we can and not wait for king to hand-feed us info(which he wont do)...waiting in WW is always a very bad thing, no matter what the topic.

What info did we get last night? If there is a witness role, he hasn't come forward yet. I guess that there is a bodyguard, and he was, amazingly targeted last night. If that's the case, he should come forward, because he's definitely getting homicided tonight.

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

And when do we? After they kill a few players? I think we were given information three times this game...our intitial roles, the first lynch, and the first night. I believe we must use all three as best we can and not wait for king to hand-feed us info(which he wont do)...waiting in WW is always a very bad thing, no matter what the topic.

Ok then:

Intial Roles - The only thing that has remotely come up here is Barkeep saying that he has nothing to hide and is a regular patient. To me this is trivial, as I think it can be fairly obvious that even you have a creative description etc. you still are a plain good guy.

First Lynch - we lynched a good guy, I effectively placed the deciding vote so am most supsicious I guess. However, in my experience day 1 votes are a crapshoot and thus trying to read much into them is risky at best.

First Night - Nothing happened. So either a conversion, a body guard block or the maniacs can't kill every night.

So, from that info, how can we form a circle of trust? Unles I've missed something, then I don't think we've really very much concrete to go on, other than 'you're voting the same way as me' which is very easy for the bad guys to manipulate.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

What info did we get last night? If there is a witness role, he hasn't come forward yet. I guess that there is a bodyguard, and he was, amazingly targeted last night. If that's the case, he should come forward, because he's definitely getting homicided tonight.

Im betting either the bodyguard protected somelike like myself who claimed a role before night one actions were sent(i claimed one, and i think one or two others gave out their patient numbers which might imply) and got lucky, or they hit a cursed/blessed and we will never know. I highly doubt the bodyguard was targeted and protected himself. There was enough info out there yesterday to pick a potential night target(dubb saying his role is a doozie screams protect if hes not bad)

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Unles I've missed something, then I don't think we've really very much concrete to go on.

That is, of course, the whole point of werewolf.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im betting either the bodyguard protected somelike like myself who claimed a role before night one actions were sent(i claimed one, and i think one or two others gave out their patient numbers which might imply) and got lucky, or they hit a cursed/blessed and we will never know. I highly doubt the bodyguard was targeted and protected himself. There was enough info out there yesterday to pick a potential night target(dubb saying his role is a doozie screams protect if hes not bad)

I've never been the bodyguard, but I can't believe a bodyguard wouldn't protect himself night 1.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I've never been the bodyguard, but I can't believe a bodyguard wouldn't protect himself night 1.

If people are claiming roles on day one, which i did, it might be prudent...just saying, why take a shot in the dark as a wolf when i a claiming a role...if you claimed a role day 1 and i was bodyguard i would prob. protect you or consider it

[Abe Sargent]

Just got back!!! My lady is sitting on a coach waiting for me to get off the computer so I can't stay long, however I just got caught up, and I have to say that I find Barkeep's actions suspicious. I felt Blade was a little off, but I'm not too sure of that. It was better than nothing.

But now. Barkeep feels foul, to quote Tolkein.

Unvote Blade

Vote Barkeep


-Anxiety



I'll probably be able to pop back in a few.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Just got back!!! My lady is sitting on a coach waiting for me to get off the computer so I can't stay long, however I just got caught up, and I have to say that I find Barkeep's actions suspicious. I felt Blade was a little off, but I'm not too sure of that. It was better than nothing.

But now. Barkeep feels foul, to quote Tolkein.

Unvote Blade

Vote Barkeep


-Anxiety



I'll probably be able to pop back in a few.

Late switches on guys who are already doomed always stink of WWs.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Ok then:

Intial Roles - The only thing that has remotely come up here is Barkeep saying that he has nothing to hide and is a regular patient. To me this is trivial, as I think it can be fairly obvious that even you have a creative description etc. you still are a plain good guy.

First Lynch - we lynched a good guy, I effectively placed the deciding vote so am most supsicious I guess. However, in my experience day 1 votes are a crapshoot and thus trying to read much into them is risky at best.

First Night - Nothing happened. So either a conversion, a body guard block or the maniacs can't kill every night.

So, from that info, how can we form a circle of trust? Unles I've missed something, then I don't think we've really very much concrete to go on, other than 'you're voting the same way as me' which is very easy for the bad guys to manipulate.

Initial roles, i recieved info, which i wont share for rule reasons or for later confirmation reasons, about my place in the asylum, my personal details, and a power granted upon me. Things about it and the way it was presented to me make me reach certain conclusions for now i dare not share.

Lynch one, king gives us too major things...first and foremost he says this:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Despite the oddities that each of you possess

That tells me no one is just a vanilla villager(which barkeep claims to be..not just a villager, he said vanilla, no role, the shebang...that statement in the lynch leads to be believe thats an utter and total lie(for better or worse).

He also states this about mckerney:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

You all enter Loxcroix’s room and you find a bunch of tiny French flags torn apart. You also find a list with the some names on it. However, there is no medication in sight and alas you do not think he has been working with Dr. Widger

Futher confirming special roles were bestowed upon all of us...what the signifigance of his role was, i dont know...but it was a role, not a vanilla villager.

Then the night came:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Night has fallen on the asylum and each of you head back to your cells. You all wonder if the scene from last night will repeat itself.

Will Dr. Widger send out his homicidal maniacs? Who will they target? Who will not survive? These are the thoughts that race through your mind as you prepare to sleep.

The night passes and a new day begins. Some think they might have heard footsteps outside their cell. Some claim to have slept through the night. What you all know for a fact is that nobody is missing.

Did you send a message yesterday by killing mckerney? Are the maniacs intimidated by your recent show of force? Only time will tell.

BEGIN DAY 2

The key in that to me is that some people heared footsteps, or think they did...telling me the wolves were out and about last night...the fact no bodyguard has come forward means one of three things:they hit a cursed, they can only kill every other night(meaning more killers to start), or the bodyguard didnt protect himself but made the save.

So working with those details, i assume we all have a unique role, none of this vanilla crap, the things were out last night, and we prob. got either very lucky or unlucky last night(bodyguard protect or cursed)

[tanglewood]

Well, it looks like I'm going to be dissapointed this evening. I've no idea on Blade or anyone who's voting for him, but I'm pretty sure Barkeep is clean.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Late switches on guys who are already doomed always stink of WWs.

ya, anxietys action just screams wolf to me...

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Initial roles, i recieved info, which i wont share for rule reasons or for later confirmation reasons, about my place in the asylum, my personal details, and a power granted upon me. Things about it and the way it was presented to me make me reach certain conclusions for now i dare not share.

Lynch one, king gives us too major things...first and foremost he says this:
That tells me no one is just a vanilla villager(which barkeep claims to be..not just a villager, he said vanilla, no role, the shebang...that statement in the lynch leads to be believe thats an utter and total lie(for better or worse).

He also states this about mckerney:
Futher confirming special roles were bestowed upon all of us...what the signifigance of his role was, i dont know...but it was a role, not a vanilla villager.

Then the night came:

The key in that to me is that some people heared footsteps, or think they did...telling me the wolves were out and about last night...the fact no bodyguard has come forward means one of three things:they hit a cursed, they can only kill every other night(meaning more killers to start), or the bodyguard didnt protect himself but made the save.

So working with those details, i assume we all have a unique role, none of this vanilla crap, the things were out last night, and we prob. got either very lucky or unlucky last night(bodyguard protect or cursed)

I don't think the intial King necessarily means we all have a role, after all we all have 'oddities', we are in an asylum after all....

On mckerny's stuff found in his room, there have been games before where people have been betowed unique characteristics/possesions without any power (off the top of my head the samurai game and I *think* the star wars game too) that were mentioned when they were lynched. I'm not too sure what the list may symbolise if he did have a role, seer perhaps?

On the footsteps, good catch actually. I did read it but didn't necessarily connect with what significance it might have. I now think it is pretty likely they made a conversion last night.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by tanglewood

Yes I agree that circles of trust are important. Just that it's still only day 2 so I think we can't really start to form them yet.

i disagree. i have 2 distinct circles forming, and am pretty sure about both my lists.

[st.cronin]

I think it's odd that Blade says somebody taking a vote OFF of him is wolf-like. I agree with Schmidty's point in principle.

[Blade6119]

Sndvls, your around...lets hear some talk out of you...so far you have checked in, voted, and voted...thats out of character for you

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Late switches on guys who are already doomed always stink of WWs.

My lady friend just left for the night. So now I'm back. We just saw MI3, which, although she liked, I must say really blew. It was too derivitive. Do I need to go into detail of my date in order to prove that I did it?

It was the time I came back tonight and got caught up. Sorry if it looked suspicious. Hopefully, we'll nail Barkeep and then you'll agree with my feeling.

Of course, I voted for Barkeep a bunch last game and was wrong every time, so as far as that goes, maybe my intuition isn't trustworthy.


-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

so is the deadline in 10 minutes? if so, i might be up for an anxiety swap if everyone else is...otherwise right now barkeep goes

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

BS, from everything ive been told in private and seen in this game(especially the lynch post), your lying

This smells of trouble. How is it that you have private info? If it's not in game, then I'm not unhappy being voted off.

...you want to draw lines, fine..it doesnt bother me one bit if i die today, but it will be your undoing if it happens.

VOTE BARKEEP

So when I come up clean it's your undoing, right? Cause that's what's going to happen in 10 minutes.

[tanglewood]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

so is the deadline in 10 minutes? if so, i might be up for an anxiety swap if everyone else is...otherwise right now barkeep goes

I would be willing to work this.

[Barkeep49]

So Blade has been on this kick against me longer then anybody. It's the people that come after, such as dubb, who "rings true", and Anxiety, who concern me with his "feels bad" thing. Also of concern is cronin. A wolf backing a person who comes up innocent makes him look good. Wolves, don't forget, have good voting records in the first two days and I compiled the statistical evidence to prove it.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This smells of trouble. How is it that you have private info? If it's not in game, then I'm not unhappy being voted off.


So when I come up clean it's your undoing, right? Cause that's what's going to happen in 10 minutes.

In private=my PMs with king about my role and clarifications about it

As for your death, when you die i will most likely die very shortly after...i dont doubt that fact, which i why i would advocate a late swap to anxiety

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

so is the deadline in 10 minutes? if so, i might be up for an anxiety swap if everyone else is...otherwise right now barkeep goes

Are you kidding? You want to start a late bandwagon on a guy? That's much more wolf-like than Anxiety's play.

[tanglewood]

Current Votes (unofficial):

Barkeep: Lathum [190], Blade [200], Dubb [201], Tyrith [205], Saldana [211], Anxiety [234]
Tanglewood: SnDvls [193], Schmitdy [207]
Lathum: Tanglewood [196], Path [208], St. Cronin [212]
Blade: Barkeep [199]

Not Voted: Qwikshot