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Old 03-10-2015, 08:37 PM   #401
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Here you go, Suicane. I'm village but font just keeps coming after me and acting weird. I'm not sure she's a wolf, but at this point I just want to know what the heck her story is.

The numbers are now close enough to make it worth it.

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Old 03-10-2015, 08:40 PM   #402
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Now you vote for another guy who isn't going to be voted out. You're playing a game of 3 card monty here friend.

Was a joke. He isn't in the game. Someone voted for him yesterday no realizing he wasn't in the game. I figured that I would carry on the tradition.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:41 PM   #403
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:41 PM   #404
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This is why this game "bothers" me, as soon as someone else gives me a lifeline, someone else comes in and takes it away, but it's so obvious that it makes me think it can't be a wolf plan. But maybe the idea is to make everyone think it isn't a wolf plan by being so obvious.

At the very least EF could give me some Ritalin.

To get votes off you, the best thing you can do is review what's happened thus far and make a case for voting someone else. If you're a villager, that's what you should always be trying to do. It's a communal effort to look at everything that's going on.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:41 PM   #405
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My reasoning wasn't that suicane flipped, but the timing...and then staying with GE effectively keeping him at or near the lead until the late rush axed one of our good guys. Could be coincidence, but it's the only thing that sticks out to me.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:41 PM   #406
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Everything?

Does me voting for you make me scum? Why?

No but if I have to vote a random person to get rid of, I'll gladly choose the one with the abrasive tone in too many of their posts. (You)
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:46 PM   #407
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Add me to the list of those that question EF's actions yesterday. It's easy to say his vote bouncing is a good strategy to force a wolf's hand a bit, but what if all the lead vote getters were villagers? Then his vote bouncing achieved nothing.

It also gives him a little too much freedom to change votes, without much question. You guys are questioning anyone else that changed votes yesterday, but letting him off the hook because he was doing it all day long. No one else sees the danger in that? He could basically have one target all day, bounce around to appear random, and then end up on someone that was completely not random at all. How do we know yesterday wasn't exactly that?

I think it was timmaee that mentioned EF has done this in a previous game, so he wasn't concerned with it. I don't buy that at all. That simply means he has a cover if he ever does choose to use it as a wolf.

I'm not saying EF is or isn't a wolf, I'm just saying he's no less suspect than any of the rest of you.

Since I have no idea who is or isn't a wolf, my vote switching was just that, vote switching. It gives us nothing if those in the running were villagers but keeping it on one person would have achieved the same thing. That at least gave a slight chance of smoking out a wolf.

To be honest, I was pretty much amusing myself in the process. No sense in playing without having fun at it. Last time I played WW was at boardgamegeek and I probably would have been looked at today for NOT moving my vote enough over there.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:50 PM   #408
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It's what I expected you to do anyway.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:50 PM   #409
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My reasoning wasn't that suicane flipped, but the timing...and then staying with GE effectively keeping him at or near the lead until the late rush axed one of our good guys. Could be coincidence, but it's the only thing that sticks out to me.

I flipped to the next highest guy simply to save myself. I even said as much.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:51 PM   #410
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It's what I expected you to do anyway.

Not sure why, you weren't on my radar until recently.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:51 PM   #411
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No but if I have to vote a random person to get rid of, I'll gladly choose the one with the abrasive tone in too many of their posts. (You)
Then there's the problem. HomerSimpson98 accused you of not making decisive votes or trying to figure out the game. You countered by saying you voted for the same person both Days for no alignment related reason, and expected that to clear you.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:52 PM   #412
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To get votes off you, the best thing you can do is review what's happened thus far and make a case for voting someone else. If you're a villager, that's what you should always be trying to do. It's a communal effort to look at everything that's going on.

That's what I'm trying to do man. It's hard for me to focus on so many people though. That, and the case I'm making is for someone who absolutely isn't getting voted out tonight anyway, so it only does me so much good.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:54 PM   #413
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Suicane, indulge me in a hypothetical situation. A wolf is run up early on in this game. What do they roleclaim and how do they do it?
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:56 PM   #414
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If font claims what Suicane replies I am voting for both of them somehow...
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:58 PM   #415
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Suicane, indulge me in a hypothetical situation. A wolf is run up early on in this game. What do they roleclaim and how do they do it?

I feel like this is my first semester of algebra, cause I honestly don't have any idea what you're asking.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:59 PM   #416
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Despite my vote being on you, I agree with your read--I'm getting a negative feel for EF.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:59 PM   #417
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I flipped to the next highest guy simply to save myself. I even said as much.

That's fair enough. And, again, I'm not comfortable yet being the tentpole on anyone.

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Old 03-10-2015, 08:59 PM   #418
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I mean, I know what you're asking, I just know the answer.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:00 PM   #419
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Dola: that was meant to quote Sui. I'm time warping on mobile
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:00 PM   #420
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don't know the answer. It should read.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:00 PM   #421
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I feel like this is my first semester of algebra, cause I honestly don't have any idea what you're asking.

I think she's asking you what a wolf would say if he is up for lynch to save himself.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:01 PM   #422
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Also agree with JAG's earlier sentiment that Font seems good but shouldn't be above suspicion.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:01 PM   #423
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If my math is right, we're at threes across the board between font, Suicane and Grover. Soooooooooo awesome!
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:01 PM   #424
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Suicane, another important question.... WHY FREAKING SAM BRADFORD?????
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:01 PM   #425
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I guess he would claim to be the Duke so you wouldn't vote for him. How he'd do it, I dunno.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:02 PM   #426
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i am back in case you missed me

i am happy with my vote being where it is now more than i was when i left.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:02 PM   #427
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Suicane, another important question.... WHY FREAKING SAM BRADFORD?????

Brother, I'm not even accepting calls from my friends tonight, because I don't want to say the words out loud.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:03 PM   #428
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As an anti-iggle fan I vote we never kill chip Kelly. In fact someone should guard him every hour I every day
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:05 PM   #429
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As an anti-iggle fan I vote we never kill chip Kelly. In fact someone should guard him every hour I every day

Maybe I should rethink my vote...
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:08 PM   #430
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Also concur with the perception that there's no read out there for Chief Rum. Very UTR-feeling to this point.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:08 PM   #431
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:09 PM   #432
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Thank you Suicane.

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Old 03-10-2015, 09:09 PM   #433
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Either I am rusty or there are about 12 wolves in this game. I think the former is most likely.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:13 PM   #434
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Either I am rusty or there are about 12 wolves in this game. I think the former is most likely.

did you play in that game...i think AlanT ran it...everyone was a wolf except for 2 people that were villagers (i was one)...we thought we were awesome on day 3 when we got another wolf...then we realized we were the only villagers (which in fact made us the wolves)
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:15 PM   #435
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Now that sounds like a trippy game.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:15 PM   #436
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did you play in that game...i think AlanT ran it...everyone was a wolf except for 2 people that were villagers (i was one)...we thought we were awesome on day 3 when we got another wolf...then we realized we were the only villagers (which in fact made us the wolves)

Didn't play in that one. Remember hearing about it though.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:16 PM   #437
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did you play in that game...i think AlanT ran it...everyone was a wolf except for 2 people that were villagers (i was one)...we thought we were awesome on day 3 when we got another wolf...then we realized we were the only villagers (which in fact made us the wolves)

Wait...that's really possible? I know we guessed at the number of wolves, but the vets seemed to settle around 3 or 4.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:16 PM   #438
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3 - Suicane75 - britrock88 (331), Grover (344), EagleFan (403)
3 - Grover - path12 (271), Suicane75 (367), cheekimonk (417)
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:16 PM   #439
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:16 PM   #440
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Also concur with the perception that there's no read out there for Chief Rum. Very UTR-feeling to this point.

Actually, I have the sixth most posts.

That said, I get this read a lot from others. Call it the Chief Rum Effect.

I have been ignored as a wolf because of it, and I have been lynched as a villager because of it.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:17 PM   #441
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Think that is right.

That's what I've got. Missing votes from JAG and timmae.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:17 PM   #442
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did you play in that game...i think AlanT ran it...everyone was a wolf except for 2 people that were villagers (i was one)...we thought we were awesome on day 3 when we got another wolf...then we realized we were the only villagers (which in fact made us the wolves)

That game was a trip.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:18 PM   #443
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Actually, I have the sixth most posts.

That said, I get this read a lot from others. Call it the Chief Rum Effect.

I have been ignored as a wolf because of it, and I have been lynched as a villager because of it.

I like that logic... it looks like you are being ignored in the vote... therefore...
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:18 PM   #444
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unvote Grover
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More than enough time to adjust these votes yet... don't want a runaway train of votes for no reason.

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Unvote: Grover
Vote: GoldenEagle


Just self preservation since I don't know if I'll be around at deadline. Stop voting for me though, I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy dammit.

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Unvote Raven

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EF, this is a weird sequence. Do you remember whyyou switch to Grover yesterday after the two votes on him went to other targets?
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:19 PM   #445
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vote raven

His votes so far are one sided... font and that's it. The goldeneagle vote causes suspicion. Font reads good to me... for those reasons.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:19 PM   #446
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Unvote: Grover
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No feel at all for Raven, but the only other option here is Font, and I feel like A) She just helped me & B)If I vote for her she just switches her vote back anyway. So, stayin alive, stayin alive.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:20 PM   #447
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I like that logic... it looks like you are being ignored in the vote... therefore...

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Old 03-10-2015, 09:22 PM   #448
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Then there's the problem. HomerSimpson98 accused you of not making decisive votes or trying to figure out the game. You countered by saying you voted for the same person both Days for no alignment related reason, and expected that to clear you.

I'm not expecting to be cleared. I've done nothing to "earn clearance", just like none of the rest of you have. I don't need to be the one to decide someone's fate on day 1. There's not enough information to make a decisive vote. It was basically drawing straws, and GE lost. He did nothing particularly wrong, and ended up being a villager.

While you ended up being the decisive vote yesterday, EF forced your hand to save yourself. You had a choice to vote GE, hope someone changed their vote, or change your vote. Your decision was made for you. If anything, that makes EF and you possible suspects in my opinion.
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3 - GoldenEagle - Zinto (80), Narcizo (166), Suicane75 (177)
3 - Suicane75 - Grover (96), Chief Rum (174), GoldenEagle (190)
3 - fontisian - HomerSimpson98 (180), JAG (189), Raven (192)
2 - britrock88 - path12 (134), cheekimonk (197)
1 - timmae - britrock88 (152)
1 - Raven - fontisian (145)
1 - JAG - timmae (176)
1 - Grover - EagleFan (178)

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So three with three now? I want a leader.

UNVOTE BRITROCK88
VOTE GOLDEN EAGLE

If font or sui is bad, this vote from path could be bad, though I otherwise don't rmemeber reading anything bad from path.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:25 PM   #450
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EF, this is a weird sequence. Do you remember whyyou switch to Grover yesterday after the two votes on him went to other targets?

I wasn't sure about the Raven switch and reasoning. Something struck me as being a little off. Day one attempted reasoning to be honest. Also wanted to see if there was any movement back to him after my vote.
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