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Old 01-30-2019, 09:33 AM   #51
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I'm no expert in the genre, but was coerced into reading Lord Foul's Bane by Stephen Donaldson back in the late 1980s, and absolutely loved it. It became a trilogy, then a second trilogy, and then apparently more after that all in the same setting. I've heard it mentioned among fans as a hidden gem in the genre, and without being able to contrast it with others mentioned here, I'd recommend it pretty heartily.

(Additional note: I read the first six and give them all a thumbs up. Apparently Scott brick has recorded an audio version of at least the first three, but for some reason it's not available on Audible... if it were, I think I'd take the plunge and do them all again)

I loved the first trilogy. My oldest son's name is Thomas as a result. I liked the second trilogy. This last trilogy is an abomination that I abandoned after the second book.

Donaldson is a really interesting writer. He's very intense. His characters seem to spend 90% of their time grimacing ('cept Giants, of course). I thought he balanced that intensity very well early in his career, but by the time we get to the third series, he seems to have doubled down on all of his bad writing habits and left himself with the bits that aren't as easily redeemable.

(I also liked his turn at SF in the Gap series...I was a pretty big fanboy of Donaldson's by the mid '90s, but I don't think I'd trust that version of myself enough to actually recommend those books to anybody.)

Also wanted to add that Donaldson seems to be a really polarizing writer. His style is distinctive (and, as I said, intense). He seems to be one of those guys you either love immensely or you hate his guts. I couldn't understand the latter until the third Covenant series came out...now I get it completely.


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Old 05-01-2019, 11:09 PM   #52
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For Rothfuss fans ...

‘Kingkiller Chronicle’ TV Show’s Premiere Episode Features Lin-Manuel Miranda Song, Showrunner Talks Ten-Episode First Season
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The Kingkiller Chronicle series will begin filming a ten episode first season late this year. What that means for an actual series release date isnt clear, but theres a distinct possibility well be singing along with Rogers, Miranda and the Edema Ruh some time in 2020.

I want to re-read his first 2 books but will wait until the 3rd is announced before doing so. Too hard to fall into another GRRM trap of possibly never finishing the series.

For those that haven't read Rothfuss, he writes as well as GRRM and his world is as intricate but in completely different ways. Give it a shot if you are looking for something besides fighting-killing-action-monsters.
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Old 05-01-2019, 11:49 PM   #53
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I had someone mention Rothfuss to me a couple years ago and I was reading them, enjoying them immensely, but the fellow who had recommended it to me neglected to say that it was an unfinished trilogy, and I was not happy when I went looking for that third book (and I spent far too long looking).
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:07 PM   #54
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I read the first book, The Name of the Wind, but I'm not going to bother with book 2 until book 3 is out. Right now Brandon Sanderson is the only writer that has my confidence in finishing a series he starts. Well, I mean, I'm sure Rothfuss will finish the trilogy, but Sanderson writes to a schedule, so I'm confident that the next book in the Stormlight Archive will be out in a reasonable amount of time.

For the rest of them, I can wait. Plenty of already finished series of novels to read.
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Old 05-02-2019, 02:40 PM   #55
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For those that haven't read Rothfuss, he writes as well as GRRM

*crosses Rothfuss off list of authors to read*
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:01 PM   #56
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*crosses Rothfuss off list of authors to read*

Just try it, just try the first 200 pages ...
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:54 PM   #57
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Got about halfway through the book and lost interest
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Old 05-03-2019, 12:58 AM   #58
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I liked the two Kingkiller books, but while I was upset in the moment there wasn't a 3rd book I'm not actively checking for a 3rd book, unlike ASoIaF, Gentleman Bastards, and the Stormlight Archive (though that one actually gets written!)

To be honest, when I re-read the Rothfuss books for book club reasons I got the sense in the second book he was stretching out things, not that he was tying together a great plot.

(Sadly, I think the Locke Lamora series could've been the best if done as a trilogy instead of potentially 7, but obviously both parents getting cancer puts a damper on all things.)

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Old 05-03-2019, 07:55 AM   #59
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That's one thing I love about Brandon Sanderson. He's so prolific, you know you won't be left hanging. Really looking forward to the next Wax and Wayne
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Old 05-03-2019, 08:10 AM   #60
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(Sadly, I think the Locke Lamora series could've been the best if done as a trilogy instead of potentially 7, but obviously both parents getting cancer puts a damper on all things.)

Scott Lynch is a great writer. I kinda agree with a trilogy. I thought it was him that fell ill.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:03 PM   #61
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A little news on WoT series.

Amazon unveils first batch of casting for The Wheel of Time adaptation | Ars Technica
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Amazon has announced its first round of casting for The Wheel of Time, the long-awaited TV adaptation of the late Robert Jordan's bestselling 14-book series of epic fantasy novels. Within that genre, Jordan's series is as popular as George R.R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire.The last book in the series was published after Jordan died and written from Jordan's notes by bestselling author Brandon Sanderson.

The TV series will center on Moiraine (played by Oscar-nominee Rosamund Pike), a member of a powerful, all-woman organization called the Aes Sedai. (In this world, magic exists, but only certain women can use iti.e., the members of the Aes Sedai.) She identifies five young people, one of whom could be the reincarnation of a person who prophecies say will save or destroy humanity. Together, the youngsters embark on a journey across the world.

Josha Stradowski will play Rand al'Thor, aka The Dragon Reborn, He Who Comes With the Dawn, the Coramoor, Shadowkiller, and who knows how many other monikers. He's apparently the person featured in the prophecy. Marcus Rutherford has been cast as apprentice blacksmith and dream walker Perrin Aybara. Zoe Robins will play healer Nynaeve al'Meara, and Madeleine Madden will play the powerful channeler Egwene al'Vere. Finally, Barney Harris has been cast as series comic relief, Matrim Cauthon.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:17 PM   #62
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Going to take some serious CGI to help prevent the actors from aging 20+ real years trying to get through the first couple of books.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:02 AM   #63
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The local library had the Lies of Loche Lomora, so I picked it up. I've read maybe 3 pages this morning...so I don't have much of a former opinion as of yet.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:32 AM   #64
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The local library had the Lies of Loche Lomora, so I picked it up. I've read maybe 3 pages this morning...so I don't have much of a former opinion as of yet.

Well constructed piffle, endorsed. Pretty sure I heard about it here (this forum, not necessarily this thread) and am looking forward to the next (4th) installment, which is in review I understand.
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Old 08-22-2019, 08:24 PM   #65
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I am mostly done Oathbringer, which is the 3rd (and most recent) of the Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson. I love how each book "features" one of the main characters. There's a spattering of backstory that gets thrown in every few chapters, and it fills in the gaps of the character's motivation and how they got there. I'd say this is my favorite series of the past 10 years for sure. I'll have to read the complete series before I can place it beyond that.

The Patrick Rothfuss series had a fantastic start. The Name of the Wind is one of the greatest fantasy books I"ve ever read. However, the 2nd book wasn't nearly as good. It just lost the sense of wonder that made the 1st book special. It was still good, but didn't really progress much beyond that.

I'm also listening to the Wheel of Time and SOIAF via audiobooks. I've never passed the 8th book in the Robert Jordan series, I'm currently on book 3 and I plan on getting to the end. With ASOIAF, I've read the books already and watched the show twice, so going through the audiobooks is kind of like coming home. I'm really enjoying it. The show helped me to understand some of the characters, and now that I'm re-experiencing it, I'm enjoying some of the character arcs a LOT more than I did the first time around. Too bad we'll most likely never get to see the true ending, and will probably have to settle with the TV show as our ending.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:51 AM   #66
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The local library had the Lies of Locke Lamora, so I picked it up. I've read maybe 3 pages this morning...so I don't have much of a former opinion as of yet.
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Well constructed piffle, endorsed. Pretty sure I heard about it here (this forum, not necessarily this thread) and am looking forward to the next (4th) installment, which is in review I understand.
How'd it turn out Deac? It's awkward now given the series delays, and I'm not even sure what genre I'd tab it in, but that's probably the first book I recommend to literally anyone until I understand their preferences. I don't think I've ever read another fiction book with a real plot that made me laugh out loud at dialogue multiple times.
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I am mostly done Oathbringer, which is the 3rd (and most recent) of the Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson. I love how each book "features" one of the main characters. There's a spattering of backstory that gets thrown in every few chapters, and it fills in the gaps of the character's motivation and how they got there. I'd say this is my favorite series of the past 10 years for sure. I'll have to read the complete series before I can place it beyond that.

The Patrick Rothfuss series had a fantastic start. The Name of the Wind is one of the greatest fantasy books I've ever read. However, the 2nd book wasn't nearly as good. It just lost the sense of wonder that made the 1st book special. It was still good, but didn't really progress much beyond that.

I'm also listening to the Wheel of Time and SOIAF via audiobooks. I've never passed the 8th book in the Robert Jordan series, I'm currently on book 3 and I plan on getting to the end. With ASOIAF, I've read the books already and watched the show twice, so going through the audiobooks is kind of like coming home. I'm really enjoying it. The show helped me to understand some of the characters, and now that I'm re-experiencing it, I'm enjoying some of the character arcs a LOT more than I did the first time around. Too bad we'll most likely never get to see the true ending, and will probably have to settle with the TV show as our ending.

I'll be honest - I could use less Shallan POV/Shadesmar & more Kaladin/Dalinar POV, but unlike every other author of an unfinished anthology I do believe he'll finish it & tie things up unless he dies unexpectedly.

I think I've said my thoughts on Rothfuss here before - book 1 was amazing, book 2 felt somewhat like he was biding his time, and the delay for book 3 makes me think (unlike Lynch with the Thorn of Emberlain) he never had a clue how to play it out, not that he isn't trying. It's the Meerenese Knot George Martin struggled with, except this is the actual ending, not some minor subplot.

I actually think it's more likely Martin writes the final book(s) now that Season 8 went so obviously poorly. He strikes me as a petty man who enjoyed the fame & attention but desperately wants credit, and he's now been given an opportunity to be adored again. Doesn't even need to change the broad plot strokes, just give the characters sensible motivation for their actions.

I'm still in the midst of Steven Erikson's 10 part (but finished!) Malazan Book of the Fallen. The first few were awesome, the world building is insanely deep, and my friend who read it fully through does say it pays off near the end, but man there's a lot to digest & it's a hump to basically start over with Book 4.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:56 AM   #67
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Some good ideas in this thread. I even discovered I had purchased 2 of the books on Kindle several years ago and had forgotten about them.

I'm starting to tackle the Witcher series written by Andrzej Sapkowski. I'm going with the 2 short story collections first as those serve to introduce the character/setting before the main series begins.

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Old 08-23-2019, 10:09 AM   #68
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How'd it turn out Deac? It's awkward now given the series delays, and I'm not even sure what genre I'd tab it in, but that's probably the first book I recommend to literally anyone until I understand their preferences. I don't think I've ever read another fiction book with a real plot that made me laugh out loud at dialogue multiple times.


I'll be honest - I could use less Shallan POV/Shadesmar & more Kaladin/Dalinar POV, but unlike every other author of an unfinished anthology I do believe he'll finish it & tie things up unless he dies unexpectedly.

I think I've said my thoughts on Rothfuss here before - book 1 was amazing, book 2 felt somewhat like he was biding his time, and the delay for book 3 makes me think (unlike Lynch with the Thorn of Emberlain) he never had a clue how to play it out, not that he isn't trying. It's the Meerenese Knot George Martin struggled with, except this is the actual ending, not some minor subplot.

I actually think it's more likely Martin writes the final book(s) now that Season 8 went so obviously poorly. He strikes me as a petty man who enjoyed the fame & attention but desperately wants credit, and he's now been given an opportunity to be adored again. Doesn't even need to change the broad plot strokes, just give the characters sensible motivation for their actions.

I'm still in the midst of Steven Erikson's 10 part (but finished!) Malazan Book of the Fallen. The first few were awesome, the world building is insanely deep, and my friend who read it fully through does say it pays off near the end, but man there's a lot to digest & it's a hump to basically start over with Book 4.

So far so good, Bishop. I've read a little more, but it is still pretty good.(Less than 100 pages)
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