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Old 02-10-2024, 07:39 AM   #6451
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Bottom-line. I'm not sure I can be a cop. I'd slap the sh*t out of majority of these folks.

Oh the shit police put up with every single shift is crazy. I trained BJJ with a few, all good people, in it to truly make a positive difference, and the stories were outrageous. I couldn't do the job and I am a very even keeled person.

One who was a K-9 officer, so he was all over Phoenix and usually in bad situations, said that on almost every call people come out of the woodwork, taunting them, threatening them, filming them trying to provoke a response. It's absolutely crazy.
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Old 02-10-2024, 09:43 AM   #6452
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If you think cop body cams are fun, Ontario is apparently going to trial having youth soccer referees wear body cams....

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Old 02-10-2024, 11:03 AM   #6453
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I went through a binge of the bodycam videos after Edward first posted that 20 something-year old drunk driver from Florida. Some of them are really entertaining, while others are sad. Addiction, mental health issues, homelessness, you name it. Some of these people never had a chance.

Whilst on the subject of YT, I've been pretty enamored with this channel. This guy does reporting in the craziest places and isn't very exploitative about it like many wannabe journalists.

Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan - YouTube

The SF and Philly videos... whoa

The Channel 5 guy is fantastic with some really thought provoking videos. Very good storyteller.

And yeah, some of the body cam stuff on youtube is 100% mental illness or addiction, but not all by a long shot. There are plenty of entitled douche bags who think they are smarter than the law, screw around, and find out.

As I said, i watch both sides of these things and the videos themselves are fascinating to me as is the youtube comments. You always hear about how different stops happen depending on the race of the person arrested, but I just don't see it in "most" of these videos. Usually, it's just the way the person acts that gets them in trouble.
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Old 02-17-2024, 06:20 PM   #6454
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OTH here are some bodycam videos that shows you what cops have to put up with in (mostly) non-violent stuff. Think of it as "Cops" for traffic violations and stuff.

Most common cop saying: stop or stop resisting
Most common perp saying: I didn't do nothing/anything

Note to self. If a cop stops me, first word from me is: Don't talk to me, I want a lawyer.

Just a guess, but I'm going to say alcohol is the cause of 50%+ of these bodycams.

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Old 04-03-2024, 10:27 PM   #6455
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Old 04-11-2024, 05:47 AM   #6456
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I've seen several videos but none start-to-finish without some sort of MSM edits on the Dexter Reed shooting.

But from what I've read, Reed was stopped, didn't follow police orders and did seem to act suspiciously (rolled window up when told to keep it down and roll down back window), supposedly he fired first multiple times, the cops shot back.

To me, assuming Reed did fire first, it was a justified shooting. Many, if not majority, of 96 shots seem to be when the guy was still in the car. However, what doesn't seem justified is the continued shooting after the guy was outside, on the ground (video said one cop shot 3 more times but there may have been more).

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Old 04-11-2024, 06:27 AM   #6457
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96 shots in a residential area is absolutely insane.
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Old 04-12-2024, 06:04 PM   #6458
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I've seen several videos but none start-to-finish without some sort of MSM edits on the Dexter Reed shooting.

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Old 04-12-2024, 07:53 PM   #6459
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Thanks. I looked at the videos of the 4 officers. I know they said the perp fired first and sounded like multiple shots, and although that is likely, all I heard were the shots, nothing obvious that the deceased actually pointed a weapon and shot at the LEOs.

Assuming that is confirmed, seems like a legit shooting to me. I would like to know the purpose of the stop, the videos started with 3-4 cops getting into a vehicle.

Good thing they had body cams but it would be great if they had "shoulder" cams. You could tell the LEOs were crouching or bent over and there wasn't a good angle in numerous sections.
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Old 04-17-2024, 10:44 AM   #6460
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Old Today, 09:38 AM   #6461
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Old Today, 09:57 AM   #6462
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When the police knock on the door and announced themselves, do not open the door with a weapon in your hand. See starting at about 3:45.

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Old Today, 10:36 AM   #6463
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Would be home invaders -- just yell SHERIFF'S OFFICE before breaking in, this should automatically disarm anyone inside!
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Old Today, 10:43 AM   #6464
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My BIL had a situation a couple of months ago. A guy had been riding slowly on their street, and the man living four doors down noticed him. The guy's tire went flat, and he pulled over across from the dude watching him, to start changing it. My BIL's neighbor then decided to pull his gun out and confront the guy. The guy said he was just turning around, and he lived a couple of roads over from there, but the neighbor said he believed he was casing the place to rob it. He made the kid leave with his tire scraping the ground

The kid went home, and his parents called the police. All this happened around 7pm. At 11:30pm, the police started banging on my BIL's door. It freaked him out a little, and scared his wife to death. He threw some paints on and went down to see who it was. He does normally carry, but he decided he would see who it was before he pulled the gun out, thankfully. When he opened the door, the cops had their weapons drawn and made him come out of the house showing his hands. They started a accusing him of pulling a gun on the kid, but he told them he had no idea what they were talking about. When he finally got them to tell him what address they were looking for, it ended up they were at the wrong house.

The next morning, my BIL called the Sherriff, who he just so happens to be friends with. As a matter of fact, he is the chaplin to both the jail and the hospital. He told him how insane ot was for the police to show up hours after an incident in the middle of the night and start banging on random doors. He never heard them identify themselves. If he had answered that door with his gun in his hand, that whole situation would have end tragically.

The Sherriff apologized over the phone, and in writing. Both deputies also wrote apologies, and they had an office wide meeting on the incident. If this had been anyone other than my BIL, I don't think any of that would have happened.

Want to know why I have a pretty low opinion on open carry? Because morons like my BIL's neighbor shows how dumb some of those that carry are. He got all excited because he got to play cowbow and scare some kid. He still claims that kid was casing the street, but people who are planning robberies don't generally call the police.

Want to know why I think we have a problem with police? This story. Those cops were purposely trying to put a scare in that old dude, and nearly killed an innocent man in the process.

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Old Today, 10:59 AM   #6465
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He never heard them identify themselves.

This is what struck me about that video. Yeah, you yelled a couple of times while pounding on the door. How much of that simply reverberated down the corridor vs actually making it into the apartment? Also, if you've anywhere else but RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOOR, especially if you're already talking on the phone, you're not going to hear shit other than the loud pounding noise.
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Old Today, 11:22 AM   #6466
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So much wrong with that video.

But I guess I'll start with can we get all of those people who fed the cops complete horseshit arrested and charged with crimes. (the girl downstairs and the caller at the very least)
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Old Today, 11:36 AM   #6467
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The cop should be charged. If he raises the gun then shoot but he had the gun at his side.
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