Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899 - Page 24

Chief Rum · 07-08-2009, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

that's basically what happened. multiple people have PM'd me saying "autumn sent me a PM saying i should tell him my role because DaddyTorgo wants to build a CoT"

and let me make that clear - i would never ask ANYBODY to tell their role to a third-party, and i would check with both parties before hooking two people up unless i am 110% sure that both parties are not conspiracy members.

Hmm, okay, now I am really curious to see what Autumn says. Thanks, DT, I see what you mean.

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 09:58 PM

Well, if we're going to hash it out in here I'll let it be known that the request A) had something to do with my ability and B) was not worded that DT was requesting that I do that. It was a way to confirm some info to pass to DT.

Danny · 07-08-2009, 09:58 PM

Hmm, that is pretty damning if it was multiple people. I'm putting my vote back.

Vote Autumn

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 09:59 PM

@9:52 - "A"

Chief Rum · 07-08-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

autumn would rather PM me an explanation first i think as it may involve role-specific details, so we will wait until that time.

did autumn send you any PM's chief?

No, no word. Of course, I have only actually talked with one person. I think everyone figures (correctly for the most part) that I ain't around to chat anyway.

Danny · 07-08-2009, 10:00 PM

DT, out of curiosity, was the info he wanted just the name of the person or was it full role info?

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:00 PM

@henry - that is INCORRECT

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

DT, out of curiosity, was the info he wanted just the name of the person or was it full role info?

he says it was role, and they both said that too

Danny · 07-08-2009, 10:03 PM

Ok, I'm leaving my vote where it is now unless something really changes.

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

he says it was role, and they both said that too

By role I mean role, as in character. That is all I asked for and all I got.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

What is "repeat voters"? You mean, people whose votes were on the lynch candidate both days?

Right. Repeat votes from that post.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:05 PM

nfg & king - did he just want your names, or did he want info about your roles?

kingfc22 · 07-08-2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

nfg & king - did he just want your names, or did he want info about your roles?

Just name.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 10:06 PM

Damn, just read through that mass of posts, I didn't think I was going to miss that much action. Curious.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:06 PM

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 10:07 PM

I'll wait to hear further info before throwing out a vote, as no more are necessary at the moment.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:07 PM

that's much less incriminatory then i expected given the traditional definition of role...i must ponder. for now

UNVOTE AUTUMN

path12 · 07-08-2009, 10:07 PM

Geez. What was I, chopped liver? I didn't get a message.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Geez. What was I, chopped liver? I didn't get a message.

Seriously, I'm getting lonely and paranoid over here.

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 10:09 PM

I have no idea how many votes are on me right now, but let's please avoid an insta-lynch, at least until DT digests the info from me. I'm not a terribly important villager but you would be kicking yourselves in the ass if you managed to lynch two villagers in three hours. Let's save the gangpiles for scanned wolves.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:10 PM

nfg & king - is this correct?:

I'm sure that nfg and now king PMed you asking if you had told me to ask them about their roles. Clearly you didn't.

I also didn't state that you did. I told both of them that if they told me their role I could confirm that with you.

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 10:10 PM

I only get four, guys, sorry, and DT got two of them. I think I can safely say I won't be trying that particular information gathering tactic again lol

Chief Rum · 07-08-2009, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Right. Repeat votes from that post.

lol...the terminology still doesn't make any sense to me. What's repeated?

I'll assume you mean that these are the guys who voted for known villagers.

I explained both of my votes at the time, but I can regurgitate. I basically admitted on Day One I didn't have time to do more than scan the thread, and I had to go, so it had to be a quick vote. I felt that ntn was targeted for essentially metagame reasons, and I knew PB was on a cross-country trip and that might have been hampering his participation. So I went with a third party candidate, KWhit. My vote was #2 on him at the time, I believe. Almopst immediately after, DT came out and supported that vote and then voted for him himself, which led to a landslide--after I was already out of the thread and gone. I was as surprised as anyone to return and find my vote candidate actually got the lynch, when he was some 5-6 votes behind the leaders at the time.

Today's vote was pure self-preservation. I know I'm not bad, so my lynch is bad. Ergo, vote for the leader (especially since I was leaving again for a while).

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:10 PM

Chief - did you get a PM from autumn?

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2009, 10:10 PM

As of 1171:

Autumn: PB (1116, 9:31 pm) EF(1124 9:38) ISiddiqui (1127 9:40) nfg (1132 9:42 pm) Danny (1157 9:58 pm)

kingfc22 · 07-08-2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

DT, out of curiosity, was the info he wanted just the name of the person or was it full role info?

Autumn, can you verify that you asked Danny the same thing. If not, then this post sticks out as suspicious to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

nfg & king - did he just want your names, or did he want info about your roles?

My trust level in nfg has dipped a little since it seems as if he is the one that started this whole mess.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol...the terminology still doesn't make any sense to me. What's repeated?

I'll assume you mean that these are the guys who voted for known villagers.

Yes, that's what I mean. I meant the list of people from the post above mine that had replicated the first two days of lynch voting, and the 5 people in those two votes that voted for the known villagers both days. Sorry for confusion.

Danny · 07-08-2009, 10:13 PM

You have 5 votes right now, so we aren't in an instant kill situation. I guess I could un-vote again, but it's kind of like I am doing the...

You put your Autumn vote in, you put your Autumn vote out, you put your Autumn vote in and you post it all about, you do the vote for Autumn and you send DT a PM, that's what it's all about!

Unvote Autumn

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Autumn, can you verify that you asked Danny the same thing. If not, then this post sticks out as suspicious to me.

My trust level in nfg has dipped a little since it seems as if he is the one that started this whole mess.

I did not PM Danny at all.

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 10:14 PM

unvote Autumn

Jack, what are you doing to us?

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:15 PM

building a CoT

Danny · 07-08-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Autumn, can you verify that you asked Danny the same thing. If not, then this post sticks out as suspicious to me.

Huh? Autumn has not sent me a PM. I was asking DT is Autumn requested role or name info as that makes a big difference as I could see a villager wanting to know the names of people (as it would pertain to abilities we already know such as Clap's), but I think a circumstance in which a villager would be requesting full role info is unlikely.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:16 PM

EF - did you get a PM from autumn?

Chief Rum · 07-08-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Chief - did you get a PM from autumn?

No.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Huh? Autumn has not sent me a PM. I was asking DT is Autumn requested role or name info as that makes a big difference as I could see a villager wanting to know the names of people (as it would pertain to abilities we already know such as Clap's), but I think a circumstance in which a villager would be requesting full role info is unlikely.

exactly.

may just be a terminology mixup honestly.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:17 PM

thanks Chief.

Chief Rum · 07-08-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

You have 5 votes right now, so we aren't in an instant kill situation. I guess I could un-vote again, but it's kind of like I am doing the...

You put your Autumn vote in, you put your Autumn vote out, you put your Autumn vote in and you post it all about, you do the vote for Autumn and you send DT a PM, that's what it's all about!

Unvote Autumn

Oh for crying out loud...

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 10:19 PM

I think we need to go bck and look at day one and two votes and see what we can learn. We haven't been doing too well basing things off PM's.

Right now I am going to step away from this and fire up an IL-2 to shoot down some Nazis. Maybe one of them will talk.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I think we need to go bck and look at day one and two votes and see what we can learn. We haven't been doing too well basing things off PM's.

Right now I am going to step away from this and fire up an IL-2 to shoot down some Nazis. Maybe one of them will talk.

did you get a PM from autumn?

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

EF - did you get a PM from autumn?

Nope

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:20 PM

lol okay

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 10:36 PM

I had wanted to go through the vote history but I think I've spent too much time in the thread already this evening. I'll be here doing some work though.

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 10:38 PM

you're ok in my book autumn

kingfc22 · 07-08-2009, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Huh? Autumn has not sent me a PM. I was asking DT is Autumn requested role or name info as that makes a big difference as I could see a villager wanting to know the names of people (as it would pertain to abilities we already know such as Clap's), but I think a circumstance in which a villager would be requesting full role info is unlikely.

I find it too much of a coincidence that you would know the actual request asked (which was PM back your name and that is all) without receiving it from Autumn. That is why I asked Autumn to confirm or deny if a PM was sent to you.

When I sent a PM to DT, I did not divulge what was asked of me.

DT - what type of wording did nfg use when alerting you of his PM from Autumn.

Danny · 07-08-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I find it too much of a coincidence that you would know the actual request asked (which was PM back your name and that is all) without receiving it from Autumn. That is why I asked Autumn to confirm or deny if a PM was sent to you.

I didn't know the request asked, that's why I asked DT. It was an important piece of information that needed clarifying

Thomkal · 07-08-2009, 10:47 PM

well that was an interesting couple hours of posts to catch up on. I hope whatever the heck happened through all that was a help to you DT. I'm off to bed now.

nfg22 · 07-08-2009, 10:47 PM

I told DT what was asked of me and that Autumn came representing him. The words used were "I have the ability to confirm roles. If you send me your role I can confirm it and send that information to DT. I am doing this so we can help DT build a circle of trust. It was not exactly said that DT authorized this but it was heavily implied...

nfg22 · 07-08-2009, 10:48 PM

Quotes are circle of trust....

nfg22 · 07-08-2009, 10:48 PM

after rather....
Non-editing sucks....

Poli · 07-08-2009, 10:49 PM

Beep, beep, beep...

07-08-2009, 09:59 PM	#1154
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	@9:52 - "A" __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:00 PM	#1157
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	@henry - that is INCORRECT __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:05 PM	#1162
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nfg & king - did he just want your names, or did he want info about your roles? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:06 PM	#1165
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hmmm __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:07 PM	#1167
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	that's much less incriminatory then i expected given the traditional definition of role...i must ponder. for now UNVOTE AUTUMN __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 09:58 PM	#1152
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well, if we're going to hash it out in here I'll let it be known that the request A) had something to do with my ability and B) was not worded that DT was requesting that I do that. It was a way to confirm some info to pass to DT.

07-08-2009, 09:58 PM	#1153
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Hmm, that is pretty damning if it was multiple people. I'm putting my vote back. Vote Autumn

07-08-2009, 10:00 PM	#1156
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	DT, out of curiosity, was the info he wanted just the name of the person or was it full role info?

07-08-2009, 10:03 PM	#1159
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Ok, I'm leaving my vote where it is now unless something really changes.

07-08-2009, 10:06 PM	#1164
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Damn, just read through that mass of posts, I didn't think I was going to miss that much action. Curious.

07-08-2009, 10:07 PM	#1166
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I'll wait to hear further info before throwing out a vote, as no more are necessary at the moment.

07-08-2009, 10:07 PM	#1168
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Geez. What was I, chopped liver? I didn't get a message. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-08-2009, 10:09 PM	#1170
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I have no idea how many votes are on me right now, but let's please avoid an insta-lynch, at least until DT digests the info from me. I'm not a terribly important villager but you would be kicking yourselves in the ass if you managed to lynch two villagers in three hours. Let's save the gangpiles for scanned wolves.

07-08-2009, 10:10 PM	#1171
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	nfg & king - is this correct?: I'm sure that nfg and now king PMed you asking if you had told me to ask them about their roles. Clearly you didn't. I also didn't state that you did. I told both of them that if they told me their role I could confirm that with you. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:10 PM	#1172
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I only get four, guys, sorry, and DT got two of them. I think I can safely say I won't be trying that particular information gathering tactic again lol

07-08-2009, 10:10 PM	#1174
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Chief - did you get a PM from autumn? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:10 PM	#1175
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	As of 1171: Autumn: PB (1116, 9:31 pm) EF(1124 9:38) ISiddiqui (1127 9:40) nfg (1132 9:42 pm) Danny (1157 9:58 pm) Last edited by Barkeep49 : 07-08-2009 at 10:11 PM.

07-08-2009, 10:13 PM	#1178
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	You have 5 votes right now, so we aren't in an instant kill situation. I guess I could un-vote again, but it's kind of like I am doing the... You put your Autumn vote in, you put your Autumn vote out, you put your Autumn vote in and you post it all about, you do the vote for Autumn and you send DT a PM, that's what it's all about! Unvote Autumn

07-08-2009, 10:14 PM	#1180
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	unvote Autumn Jack, what are you doing to us?

07-08-2009, 10:15 PM	#1181
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	building a CoT __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:16 PM	#1183
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	EF - did you get a PM from autumn? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:17 PM	#1186
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	thanks Chief. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:19 PM	#1188
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I think we need to go bck and look at day one and two votes and see what we can learn. We haven't been doing too well basing things off PM's. Right now I am going to step away from this and fire up an IL-2 to shoot down some Nazis. Maybe one of them will talk.

07-08-2009, 10:20 PM	#1191
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol okay __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:36 PM	#1192
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I had wanted to go through the vote history but I think I've spent too much time in the thread already this evening. I'll be here doing some work though.

07-08-2009, 10:38 PM	#1193
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	you're ok in my book autumn __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

07-08-2009, 10:47 PM	#1196
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	well that was an interesting couple hours of posts to catch up on. I hope whatever the heck happened through all that was a help to you DT. I'm off to bed now.

07-08-2009, 10:47 PM	#1197
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I told DT what was asked of me and that Autumn came representing him. The words used were "I have the ability to confirm roles. If you send me your role I can confirm it and send that information to DT. I am doing this so we can help DT build a circle of trust. It was not exactly said that DT authorized this but it was heavily implied...

07-08-2009, 10:48 PM	#1198
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Quotes are circle of trust....

07-08-2009, 10:48 PM	#1199
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	after rather.... Non-editing sucks....

07-08-2009, 10:49 PM	#1200
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Beep, beep, beep... __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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