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Old 08-24-2012, 08:23 AM   #351
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:51 AM   #352
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Old 08-24-2012, 08:53 AM   #353
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:13 AM   #354
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Hey, guys, sorry for the hold up, West Coast and all.

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3.14 Judd Apatow, Producer
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:33 AM   #355
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Just waitin' to hear back on a PM I sent to Norv before I make my pick.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:37 AM   #356
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yeah, that's a tough one. not a huge fan of the idea
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:43 AM   #357
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yeah, that's a tough one. not a huge fan of the idea

I feel like, it IS something that happens in real cinema and should be permitted here. Not my fault if I thought of it and others didn't!
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:45 AM   #358
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i'll post my response here sack. it would NEVER HAPPEN irl on a film like die hard with a 170 mil budget. there's way too many balls in the air.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:48 AM   #359
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We do I feel like I started reading a book at chapter 10?
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:49 AM   #360
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it happens in indie films. maybe he makes a cameo in a bigger film.

find me one example where someone has starred and directed in a film of that size
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:49 AM   #361
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i'll post my response here sack. it would NEVER HAPPEN irl on a film like die hard with a 170 mil budget. there's way too many balls in the air.

Disagree. I'll give my reasoning via PM.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:50 AM   #362
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:52 AM   #363
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it's just a road i don't wanna go down.

'well, i want my producer to direct and my director to act and my actors to do the soundtrack...'

there's a zillion directors for funk's sake
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:53 AM   #364
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Starring and directing happens plenty.

Jon Favreau in Iron Man. That's a decent sized blockbuster for comparison.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:54 AM   #365
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You've got both my reasoning and the 'one example' you asked for hanging out in your inbox. I think you're being unreasonable.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:55 AM   #366
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In addition:

-- WildCard can be ANYTHING. An additional actor, cinematographer, music, 3D, etc. so long as it's in use in modern film

WildCard: Director is also an actor in film.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:55 AM   #367
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tell the board what you wanna do and let them decide. i vote no
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:56 AM   #368
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In addition:

-- WildCard can be ANYTHING. An additional actor, cinematographer, music, 3D, etc. so long as it's in use in modern film

WildCard: Director is also an actor in film.
this would be acceptable to me
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:57 AM   #369
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Shrug. I've got a guy in mind I wanted to both direct Die Hard and play the role of Hans Gruber.

As I told NTO via PM, the Gruber role is largely expository. He's there to be the scowling "FIND THIS ASSHOLE" figure, and doesn't really ever leave the office area until the very end of the movie.

I don't think director/Hans Gruber is a actor/director role that would fuck up the movie.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:58 AM   #370
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-- WildCard can be ANYTHING. An additional actor, cinematographer, music, 3D, etc. so long as it's in use in modern film

WildCard: Director is also an actor in film.

I like this.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:58 AM   #371
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If it is full frontal nudity of Scarlett Johansen...you already have my vote.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:00 AM   #372
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I like this.

Like so.

Director: Guy
Actor: Everyone one else NOT in a certain role
Wildcard: Director Guy will play the part of that one role you didn't select a star for.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:01 AM   #373
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Like so.

Director: Guy
Actor: Everyone one else NOT in a certain role
Wildcard: Director Guy will play the part of that one role you didn't select a star for.

Exactly.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:01 AM   #374
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sack wanted one person to occupy 2 positions effectively giving himself another actor

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:03 AM   #375
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this would be acceptable to me

Which is essentially what I asked you for in PM, but you said no, no, this doesn't happen.

And then you said 'let the board vote on it.'

And so now my hand has been tipped publicly when, IMO, it shouldn't have been.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #376
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Like so.

Director: Guy
Actor: Everyone one else NOT in a certain role
Wildcard: Director Guy will play the part of that one role you didn't select a star for.

I mean, the way CW phrased it is different than how I did in PM, but yeah. This is pretty much it in a nutshell if I couldn't use the director spot as actor/director, that is how the wild card would have been used.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #377
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I vote no. Lots of directors also produce. Where do we draw the line?
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:08 AM   #378
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deep breaths norv...

we made a ruling decision. if that tipped your hand my sincerest apologies.

my initial ruling was 'sure, but you have to forfeit an actor's slot (effectively the same as using a wild card) you balked

let's not make a big deal and move forward
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:10 AM   #379
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....

deep breaths norv...

we made a ruling decision. if that tipped your hand my sincerest apologies.

my initial ruling was 'sure, but you have to forfeit an actor's slot (effectively the same as using a wild card) you balked

let's not make a big deal and move forward

Your initial ruling was "you only get nine film element slots if you do that instead of everybody else's ten."

That is not "effectively the same as using a wild card."
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:13 AM   #380
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if you use a wildcard you have 9 slots left
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:14 AM   #381
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Which isn't what you said an hour ago. An hour ago you said "If you do this, you'll have to forfeit a slot and only get 9 picks."

But if I'm going to be allowed to use a wild card, fine.

3.15 Director will also have an acting role

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:15 AM   #382
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frankly the deal i offered was better. a wildcard slot has more value than an actor slot
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:16 AM   #383
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frankly the deal i offered was better. a wildcard slot has more value than an actor slot

Disagree. I shouldn't have to forfeit an acting slot for using a director's versatility.

But fuck it. Moving on.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:16 AM   #384
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I actually like that (the wildcard use) better than losing a slot. I wouldn't have been for someone only have 9 slots to everyone else's 10.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:18 AM   #385
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Agree with CW, and the Wild Card slot can be anything, including an extra actor. So having the director direct and act as a Wild Card does not violate the spirit of the category.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:22 AM   #386
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what sack wanted:

1 producer:
2 director: clint eastwood
3 star: clint eastwood
4 star
5 star
6 star
7 wc
8 wc
9 score
10 budget
11 film

what i said:

1 producer:
2 director/star: clint eastwood
3 star
4 star
5 wc
6 wc
7 score
8 budget
9 film

outcome:


1 producer:
2 director: clint eastwood
3 star:
4 star
5 star
spent pick
6 wc
7 score
8 budget
9 film

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:27 AM   #387
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3.16 Star Michael Fassbender

This filmis driven by the interactions of the characters played by Fassbender, Hardy, and Renner. Absolutely geeked to get all three.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:29 AM   #388
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3.16 Star Michael Fassbender

This filmis driven by the interactions of the characters played by Fassbender, Hardy, and Renner. Absolutely geeked to get all three.

Nerd.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:33 AM   #389
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what sack wanted:

1 producer:
2 director: clint eastwood
3 star: clint eastwood
4 star
5 star
6 star
7 wc
8 wc
9 score
10 budget
11 film

what i said:

1 producer:
2 director/star: clint eastwood
3 star
4 star
5 wc
6 wc
7 score
8 budget
9 film

outcome:


1 producer:
2 director: clint eastwood
3 star:
4 star
5 star
spent pick
6 wc
7 score
8 budget
9 film

lol. way to misrepresent. I asked, in my very first PM, if actor/director would be viable or if, barring that, I could use a wild card.

See, because I realized right off that just doing actor/director might open up a can of worms since some directors had already been taken, etc, and the use of that as a tactic anybody could use might cause problems.

But you're conveniently ignoring that in pushing this narrative that I wanted 11 spots. Good job. Asshole.

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:37 AM   #390
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Can I use my director slot as an Actor/Director slot? Or use a wild card as 'actor/director' and use my director spot for another actor?
tell me if i read this wrong
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:37 AM   #391
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Okay, in the end isn't this semantics? The WC seems the easy solution. So let's roll forward with it and go from there.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:40 AM   #392
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Okay, in the end isn't this semantics? The WC seems the easy solution. So let's roll forward with it and go from there.

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Old 08-24-2012, 11:40 AM   #393
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4.1 Producer, Brad Pitt

Pitt has produced some of my favorite character driven-movies, including The Departed, Moneyball, and the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. Pretty sure he is ready for this challenge.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:40 AM   #394
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I'm very curious to see what Subby's movie is going to be.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:42 AM   #395
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4.2 - Director, Kenneth Branagh

Per the WC, Branagh's acting role is that of Hans Gruber.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:44 AM   #396
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Sack, i read it as you were trying to squeeze in another actor by gaming the system. If that wasn't your intention than i apologize.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:45 AM   #397
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4.2 - Director, Kenneth Branagh

Per the WC, Branagh's acting role is that of Hans Gruber.

Ah, a Shakespearean Die Hard.
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Old 08-24-2012, 11:48 AM   #398
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Ah, a Shakespearean Die Hard.

Yeah, I'm thinking at the end I'll just have McClain and Gruber rip off their masks and reveal to the audience that they're actually Romeo and Benvolio.

And Holly is really Juliet, but only if I can use a time machine to get the young Olivia Hussey to play her.
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Yeah, I'm thinking at the end I'll just have McClain and Gruber rip off their masks and reveal to the audience that they're actually Romeo and Benvolio.

And Holly is really Juliet, but only if I can use a time machine to get the young Olivia Hussey to play her.

Protip: Nah. But it gives me a little mental giggle to picture the looks on the faces of the teenage popcorn munchers.
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