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Old 07-01-2004, 12:29 PM   #1
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OT - Lock and Load the Latest (Ping: Cam)

New York Times has a brief op/ed piece on the show. Though you've no doubt seen it by now, we've got to post these things around here in your honor (even if your presence is more rarified these days).

It's, uh, not very positive, but we like you anyway.

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After thriving handsomely off the Second Amendment for decades, the National Rifle Association has decided to invoke the First Amendment and attempt a metamorphosis into a news media organization. It has begun a three-hour daily show on satellite radio to broadcast its anti-gun-control polemics in the name of legitimate news. This is a transparent device designed to circumvent the federal campaign law's strictures on unlimited advocacy at election time.

Still, it's an intriguing idea. One story suggestion for the N.R.A. assignment editor: the landmark million-dollar court settlement won by two New Jersey police officers who were gravely wounded by a robber who got his handgun through one of the shabby weapon shops that deal with "straw" buyers. These shoppers exploit the right to bear arms by buying them en masse and peddling them to the underworld. We urge a solid investigative series by the N.R.A.'s shame-on-you team to delve into the lethal history of these ostensibly licit dealers — almost three out of five guns recovered in crimes are traced to such dealers. But so far, the N.R.A. has been content to run hard-hitting reports dismissing Senator John Kerry as two-faced, and sympathizing with a college student who resented getting only a C on a pro-gun essay in a philosophy class.

As distasteful as this exercise in propaganda disguised as journalism is, it may simply be that the N.R.A. has come up with another candidate for the fantasy channel. Remember the Times Square theme restaurant the organization promised to open four years ago? We're live in Times Square, and it's still nowhere in sight.

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Old 07-01-2004, 12:34 PM   #2
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Still, it's an intriguing idea. One story suggestion for the N.R.A. assignment editor: the landmark million-dollar court settlement won by two New Jersey police officers who were gravely wounded by a robber who got his handgun through one of the shabby weapon shops that deal with "straw" buyers. These shoppers exploit the right to bear arms by buying them en masse and peddling them to the underworld.

I always love it when someone tries to point out gun control is necessary by bringing up a story about illegal firearms. If laws didn't stop them in this case, what makes you think more laws will stop them in the future?
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Old 07-01-2004, 12:37 PM   #3
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I always love it when someone tries to point out gun control is necessary by bringing up a story about illegal firearms. If laws didn't stop them in this case, what makes you think more laws will stop them in the future?

Well, then we can imprison everybody that has a gun. I mean, it worked with the war on drugs, right?
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:04 PM   #4
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You know, I have watched several of Cam's shows, and the stuff above is not an accurate characterization of the NRA News.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:18 PM   #5
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No, it's not Fritz. Specifically the story they reference. You'd never know by the editorial, but we did actually cover that story. One June 23rd (the same NYTimes reporter Fox Butterfield wrote his story), we covered the story in our newscasts.

The following day, we had Larry Keane with the National Shooting Sports Foundation on the program to talk about (interestingly enough), the NYTimes coverage of the case. Mr. Butterfield left out several aspects of the story, including the fact that the the dealer in question not only called the ATF to tell them that there may have been a problem, but that the dealer went even further and let the ATF set up a sting that nabbed the suspect.

There are a couple of other things that the Times left out, but more importantly, they implied we didn't cover a story that we actually did report.

The recent Chicago Tribune story, while still getting a couple of cheap jabs, at least recognized that the journalism isn't an exclusive club.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:22 PM   #6
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I guess the artile is refering to this:

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http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.php?release=439
Two NJ Police Officers Wounded in the Line of Duty Sue Companies Responsible for Arming the Shooter


Gun Suit Would Be Barred By Immunity Legislation Advancing In Congress
For Immediate Release:
11-14-2002 Contact Communications:
(202) 289-7319

Washington, D.C. -- Today, two New Jersey law enforcement officers who were shot and seriously wounded while on duty filed a lawsuit against the companies that put the gun in the hands of the criminal who shot them. Orange Police Detective David Lemongello and Officer Kenneth McGuire are seeking damages from a West Virginia pawnshop, Will's Jewelry and Loan, and gun manufacturer Sturm, Ruger. Also named as defendants are gun traffickers James Gray and Tammi Lea Songer, and the estate of the shooter, Shuntez Everett. The negligent behavior of the defendants enabled career criminal Everett to get the Ruger pistol that he used in a shootout with police. Detective Lemongello and Officer McGuire are represented by lawyers from the Brady Center and prominent West Virginia attorney Scott Segal of Charleston.

"Were it not for the negligence of these gun sellers, that gun would not have been in Shuntez Everett's hands," said Scott Segal.

"Gun manufacturers and gun dealers have known for years that gun trafficking and multiple sales of firearms supply the criminal gun market," said Jonathan Lowy, Senior Attorney with the Brady Center's Legal Action Project. "They have the ability to stop the flow of guns to criminals, yet they do nothing. They must be made to realize that their irresponsible conduct has very real consequences. In this case, the shooting of two police officers."

The filing of this lawsuit comes at a time when the National Rifle Association and the gun industry are pushing for federal legislation to grant the industry unprecendented immunity from liability to gun violence victims. Companion bills, H.R. 2037, sponsored by Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.), and S.2268, sponsored by Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.) would bar most negligence suits against gun sellers, including the suit filed today by officers McGuire and Lenongello. The NRA has stated that enactment of the bill is its top legislative priority.

"I wonder if the Congressional supporters of this special interest legislation are prepared to explain to officers Lemongello and McGuire why they should not be allowed their day in court," said Mr. Lowy. "Gun manufacturers and distributors and their dealers could cease and desist making large volume sales to gun traffickers. They won't do it, because they profit from every gun sold to the criminal market. Giving immunity to irresponsible gun sellers is a travesty of justice - the gun industry should not get a 'free pass' for negligent behavior and innocent victims of gun violence do not deserve to bear the costs created by the gun industry's irresponsible actions."

On January 12, 2001, Shuntez Everett shot Detective Lemongello and Officer McGuire with a 9-mm semiautomatic Ruger handgun, after being approached during undercover surveillance of a gas station that had been robbed repeatedly. Both officers survived but suffered serious debilitating injuries. Everett was killed during the shootings.

Investigation into the source of the gun revealed that the Ruger was one of several guns purchased by James Gray, another convicted felon, and his accomplice, Tammi Lea Songer. As convicted felons, both Everett and Gray were prohibited from purchasing guns, and New Jersey's strict permitting system prevented Gray from buying firearms from dealers within the state. Gray had Songer, a West Virginia resident with no criminal record, buy guns on his behalf from the Charleston, WV pawnshop. Such purchases are known as "straw" purchases. On multiple occasions, Gray and Songer purchased guns from the same West Virginia pawnshop, Will's Jewelry and Loan, which Gray then resold on the black market to other criminals like Everett. In one month, Gray and Songer bought 22 guns in three visits to Will's.

On July 20, 2000, Gray picked out 12 guns for Songer to buy, including the Ruger, and gave Songer cash to pay for them. Although Will's personnel were sufficiently concerned about the gun purchases that they notified the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, they did so only after they completed the transaction -- and profits for Will's and for Sturm, Ruger were ensured. Six months later, the Ruger was used by Everett to shoot Lemongello and McGuire.

The suit charges gun dealer Will's with negligence for consummating a large-volume straw sale of guns obviously headed for the illegal market. The suit further charges gun manufacturer Sturm, Ruger with negligence for its failure to enforce a code of conduct that would require its dealers to spot and prevent straw sales and that would prevent its dealers from engaging in large-volume sales.

"The gun lobby claims that criminals will always get guns on the 'black market' as if the black market is a street corner where these gun magically appear," said Lowy. "We know how guns get onto the black market -- through the complicity of dealers and gun manufacturers who make it easy for gun traffickers to buy firearms. It's about time that gun companies stop putting profits ahead of public safety."

Since 1989, the Legal Action Project of the Brady Center, a gun violence prevention organization chaired by Sarah Brady, has pioneered innovative theories of gun industry liability against gun manufacturers and sellers. These theories have been used in the past to bring claims on behalf of individual victims of gun violence and are now being used by the cities and counties suing the gun industry. The aim of all of these lawsuits is to compensate victims while encouraging the gun industry to change its irresponsible business practices that contribute to the shameful level of gun violence in this country.

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COURT APPROVES LANDMARK $1 MILLION SETTLEMENT
AGAINST GUN DEALER IN ATTACK ON POLICE OFFICERS
For Immediate Release:
06-23-2004 Contact Communications:
(202) 289-7319

Settlement is the first ever against a gun dealer
for supplying guns to the criminal market

In a landmark lawsuit, a West Virginia court has approved a settlement requiring a gun dealer to pay $1 million in damages to two former Orange, New Jersey police officers who were shot and almost killed by an armed robber with a gun the dealer supplied to a criminal gun trafficker.

The case would have been ended with no recovery by the police officers if Congress had approved National Rifle Association-supported legislation granting sweeping special legal protections to gun sellers - legislation that had passed the U.S. House of Representatives, but was defeated in the U.S. Senate in March. Officers Kenneth McGuire and David Lemongello had their police careers ended by a January 2001 shootout. The case is the first in the nation in which a gun dealer has paid damages for negligently supplying guns to a gun trafficker who in turn sold them into the illegal market.

"This landmark settlement sends a loud and clear message to the gun industry that gun sellers will pay a high price if they act irresponsibly and sell guns into the illegal market," said Dennis Henigan, Director of the Legal Action Project at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence and co-counsel for the plaintiffs. "The era when gun dealers could supply the criminal 'iron pipeline,' with no consequences, is over."

"This settlement will discourage reckless sales which all too often wind up hurting the men and women in blue who struggle everyday to protect us," said Scott Segal of the Segal Law Firm, co-counsel to the plaintiffs.

The suit, before Judge Irene Berger of the Kanawha County Circuit Court, charged Will Jewelry & Loan of Charleston, West Virginia with negligence and creating a public nuisance for selling 12 handguns in one purchase to a "straw purchaser," Tammi Lea Songer, who purchased the guns for trafficker James Gray. Gray then sold the handguns on the black market. One was used by a career criminal to shoot Officers Lemongello and McGuire on January 12, 2001. Judge Berger approved the settlement this morning.

The proponents of legal immunity for the gun industry argued that gun sellers need to be protected from "frivolous" lawsuits. The size of the settlement in this case should dismiss any suggestion that the case was frivolous.

"If the gun lobby's immunity legislation had passed, justice would have been denied these brave police officers, and it would be business as usual for reckless gun dealers," Henigan said. "Will Senator Larry Craig, and the National Rifle Association's other partisans in Congress, now tell these officers that their lawsuit was frivolous?"

The McGuire-Lemongello case was discussed extensively during Congressional debate on the bill, S.1805, that would have granted sweeping immunity from civil suits to gun manufacturers and dealers, including such dealers as Bull's Eye Shooter Supply, the dealer that "lost" the assault rifle used by the DC area snipers in their October 2002 rampage. The officers worked extensively against the legislation, meeting with Senators and Congressional staff, and appearing in advertisements urging defeat of the bill. Senator Larry Craig (R-Id), the bill's primary Senate sponsor, urged defeat of his own bill after opponents passed amendments renewing the federal assault weapons ban, which is scheduled to expire in September, and closing the loophole allowing sales of guns at gun shows without background checks. The final vote against passage was 90-8.

The gun trafficker, Gray, was a convicted felon prohibited from purchasing guns. He paid Songer, who had no criminal record, to buy guns on his behalf. Songer paid the pawnshop $4,000 in cash for the purchase of the twelve handguns. Gray and Songer were in the pawnshop together, with Gray pointing out the guns he wanted to a store employee and Songer completing the paperwork for the Brady background check. Songer testified that she and Gray were both high on drugs while they were in the store. Six months later, one of the guns was used to shoot the officers.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has long regarded "multiple sales" of guns as an indicator of gun trafficking. In 2002, handguns sold in multiple sales accounted for 20 percent of all guns traced to crime. Will's is among the top 1% of gun dealers nationwide in the number of guns it has sold that have been traced to crime.

After the lawsuit was brought, Will Jewelry & Loan instituted a policy under which it would sell only one handgun per month to a customer. Since the suit, at least two other West Virginia gun stores have instituted similar policies to curb gun trafficking.

The plaintiffs' case against the gun's distributor, Accusport, and the manufacturer, Sturm, Ruger, remains pending before the court.

Since 1989, the Brady Center's Legal Action Project has pioneered innovative legal theories of liability against gun manufacturers and sellers in an effort to reform the industry. The Project provides free legal representation to victims of gun violence as well as to the cities and counties that have filed lawsuits against gun industry defendants. Through its groundbreaking legal work, the Project's goal is to compel the gun industry to change irresponsible business practices that contribute to the high level of gun violence in the United States. For more information about this lawsuit, other litigation against the gun industry, and efforts to reform the gun industry, visit the Legal Action Project's website at www.gunlawsuits.org.



You will note in the first article the suit included Strum, Ruger. No mention of them is included in the second article.

The legislation the NRA was advancing was similar in nature to legislation that was passed proctecing the small aircraft aviation industry. In that industries case, frivolous lawsuits essentially forced a number of manufacturers to shut their doors.

I have not looked at the proposed legislation, but i would be very suprised if it protected a gun store owner who knowingly sold firearms to a staw purchaser or criminal. I do imagine that proving knowledge or intent would be part of the public burden.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:24 PM   #7
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looks like the infro from the brady folks left out the info cam added as well.

thanks Cam
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