It's BACK! The 2005-2006 NHL Season

Booj · 07-23-2005, 03:48 PM

Well, the Flyers moved first today buying out LeClair and Amonte... no big surprise. It will be interesting to see which teams take flyers (no pun intended) on these guys and more importantly, for how much.

I see this as housecleaning for Carter and Richards moving in. I also wouldn't be surprised to see more movement in buy-outs by the Flyers before the deadline.

TazFTW · 07-23-2005, 03:52 PM

From what I've read, the Coyotes might be interested in bringing Amonte back.

Posted this in the now deleted thread, Bertuzzi to see his suspension extended 10-20 games.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=131115

Booj · 07-23-2005, 04:10 PM

As a Canadiens fan, I have a lot of excitement for this coming season (like I mentioned late in the deleted thread). The #5 pick is disappointing having come so close (and having several heart attacks through the lottery) but I am very excited-- if used properly.

If the Canadiens could pick up Johnson, Pouliot or Ryan, I would be ecstatic. To me, Gilbert Brule is what the Habs already have too much of-- undersized skilled forwards.

I'm also happy with the prospect of having the entire 03-04 team back (save Dackell, Garon, Juneau and Perreault). I hope Gainey could pull in a free agent to replace Kovalev as well... maybe even Kovalev himself who showed great chemistry with Koivu and Zednik in the playoffs. Kovalev also said he'd like to come back, and with no teams willing to spend the 6 million he would have been looking for under the new system, it seems like a good chance he'll be back.

Having said all that, Montreal seems - to me - to be the favorite in the Northeast division (until we see what Boston does with their loads of cap room).

TazFTW · 07-23-2005, 07:59 PM

NHL has a new transfer deal with the IIHF.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=131221

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This new agreement, with the open window on all European prospects until Aug. 15, would, for example, allow a team like the Pittsburgh Penguins to sign No. 2 overall pick (2004) Evgeni Malkin even though Malkin is under contract to a Russian club team for this season.

Quoted the above because I remember in either the previous NHL thread (or was it the lottery thread) there was talk about Malkin staying in Russia.

RPI-Fan · 07-23-2005, 09:51 PM

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If the Canadiens could pick up Johnson, Pouliot or Ryan, I would be ecstatic. To me, Gilbert Brule is what the Habs already have too much of-- undersized skilled forwards.

Johnson HAS to go to Anaheim, I think -- not really much doubt about it in my mind. I don't see Carolina picking up Ryan, as they have enough in the way of workhorse forwards with Staal and Cole -- instead, Brule might be a good fit here, to play with those two bigger guys. Minnesota is hard to guess -- I could see them going with more of a wildcard type pick at #4 -- maybe Kopitar? That would leave Pouliot and Ryan to Montreal.

Personally I'm not sold on Ryan or Pouliot -- if the Isles were #5 would much rather see them take Kopitar.

RPI-Fan · 07-23-2005, 09:52 PM

Why did the old thread get deleted?

Ragone · 07-23-2005, 09:59 PM

good quest.. no idea..

Easy Mac · 07-23-2005, 10:01 PM

Well, since I was the one that deleted it, I'd say something, but I'll let others put their spin on it before I really chime in.

But I will say PEOPLE LOST POSTS!!!!

edit: see the PING: Easy Mac thread for one person's displeasure. But I'll end my participation here unless it is otherwise warranted.

RPI-Fan · 07-23-2005, 10:16 PM

For HB:

This article indicates that 66% of buyouts count against the cap, which wasn't the way I understood it.

hxxp://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-flyers-leclair&prov=ap&type=lgns

Are you as confused as I am???

~rpi-fan

RPI-Fan · 07-23-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Booj

Well, the Flyers moved first today buying out LeClair and Amonte... no big surprise. It will be interesting to see which teams take flyers (no pun intended) on these guys and more importantly, for how much.

I see this as housecleaning for Carter and Richards moving in. I also wouldn't be surprised to see more movement in buy-outs by the Flyers before the deadline.

I think that Eklund guy has it dead on. LeClair to Boston, Amonte to St. Louis/Chicago. LeClair seems more definite than Amonte, though.

Maple Leafs · 07-23-2005, 10:17 PM

I'm under the impression that (for the next ten days only) buyouts count $0 against the cap.

Easy Mac · 07-23-2005, 10:19 PM

thats how they made it sound. still a decent deal for the teams, not quite 0 though. just so i understand as well, the players still get the money even if they sign with a new team, correct?

Maple Leafs · 07-23-2005, 10:20 PM

Right, although according to TSN they get paid over the balance of their contract, not one lump sum. So Yashin gets his money spread over six years.

sovereignstar · 07-23-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

Well, since I was the one that deleted it, I'd say something, but I'll let others put their spin on it before I really chime in.

But I will say PEOPLE LOST POSTS!!!!

edit: see the PING: Easy Mac thread for one person's displeasure. But I'll end my participation here unless it is otherwise warranted.

Uh, I saw what your last post said. Something along the lines of "keep your fucking hands off MY thread or start your own." Get lost.

Easy Mac · 07-23-2005, 10:25 PM

Pretty much, I don't like some wanna be mod going behind my back changing the name of a thread I started. You want a different name, ask me, or at least say, hey i'd like to rename the thread. Whats they point of making a post if a mod is just going to come behind me and change it? And calling me a pussy and a faggot is a quick way to get me to delete a thread. But there's a new thread, so who cares, everyone wins (and at least JeeberD wasn't posting there, or we'd have real controversy).

RPI-Fan · 07-23-2005, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

I'm under the impression that (for the next ten days only) buyouts count $0 against the cap.

Cool -- do you have any response to that Yahoo! article?

I was initially thinking the same thing as you, but that article seems to indicate differently. I wonder why there is so much confusion.

Easy Mac · 07-23-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Cool -- do you have any response to that Yahoo! article?

I was initially thinking the same thing as you, but that article seems to indicate differently. I wonder why there is so much confusion.

This is from NHL.com, is this what you're talking about?

Will Clubs have an opportunity to make off-season adjustments to their rosters to come into compliance with the new CBA rules?

Yes. Clubs will have a one-time opportunity, during a six-day period, to exercise buy-outs of existing player contracts. Amounts paid to players pursuant to these compliance buy-outs will not be counted against a club's upper limit or the League-wide players' share. Clubs that choose to exercise compliance buy-outs must pay the buy-out amount over the remaining term of the contract.

RPI-Fan · 07-23-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

This is from NHL.com, is this what you're talking about?

Will Clubs have an opportunity to make off-season adjustments to their rosters to come into compliance with the new CBA rules?

Yes. Clubs will have a one-time opportunity, during a six-day period, to exercise buy-outs of existing player contracts. Amounts paid to players pursuant to these compliance buy-outs will not be counted against a club's upper limit or the League-wide players' share. Clubs that choose to exercise compliance buy-outs must pay the buy-out amount over the remaining term of the contract.

Guess Yahoo! is just plain wrong, then. They indicated that LeClair and Amonte's contracts would count against the cap to some extent.

Simms · 07-23-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

You want a different name, ask me, or at least say, hey i'd like to rename the thread.

There were at least a half dozen people over the span of 3-4 pages who asked for a change to the thread title. I take great pains to avoid *using*, let alone abusing the limited administrative powers I have here, but I have the trust of the moderators, and this seemed like a relevant, timely, and ultimately harmless place to use them. I apologize if that conclusion offended you.

General Mike · 07-23-2005, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

LeClair to Boston

Great, now I have to buy 2 Boston jerseys.

ice4277 · 07-24-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Simms

There were at least a half dozen people over the span of 3-4 pages who asked for a change to the thread title. I take great pains to avoid *using*, let alone abusing the limited administrative powers I have here, but I have the trust of the moderators, and this seemed like a relevant, timely, and ultimately harmless place to use them. I apologize if that conclusion offended you.

Why do you have admin powers?

sovereignstar · 07-24-2005, 12:35 AM

Because he's a vBulletin hax0r.

Simms · 07-24-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

Because he's a vBulletin hax0r.

What he said.

Ben and Ryan occasionally consult with me on software, hosting, and technical issues. I have access so I can get in and fix shit if nobody else is around.

bbor · 07-24-2005, 03:27 AM

Mark my words...Undersized NHL'ers will be the norm soon....3-5 years max.

Booj · 07-24-2005, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Mark my words...Undersized NHL'ers will be the norm soon....3-5 years max.

In that case, the Canadiens really are the favorites

Booj · 07-24-2005, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Johnson HAS to go to Anaheim, I think -- not really much doubt about it in my mind. I don't see Carolina picking up Ryan, as they have enough in the way of workhorse forwards with Staal and Cole -- instead, Brule might be a good fit here, to play with those two bigger guys. Minnesota is hard to guess -- I could see them going with more of a wildcard type pick at #4 -- maybe Kopitar? That would leave Pouliot and Ryan to Montreal.

Personally I'm not sold on Ryan or Pouliot -- if the Isles were #5 would much rather see them take Kopitar.

I agree Johnson won't fall to #5, if anything Minnesota will take him at 4 but I can't help but dream about a pairing of Johnson and Komisarek-- a duo that might very well lead the US defense for years to come.

I pretty much agree with everything you've said. I'm not sold on Pouliot or Ryan-- especially Ryan since I know very little about him and heard even less (even with all the hype with Crosby names like Johnson, Pouliot and Brule have been talked about, Ryan I pretty much first saw his name when I was looking at THN and TSN's top-10 prospects. I would love Kopitar as well. Pretty much, I'll trust Gainey and co's judgement... they are (part of) the group that took Iginla in the 20's with Dallas and all the diamonds in the rough in Ottawa. I just see this as a great opportunity to get a power forward they have been lacking... pretty much forever but in 10 years I do want something to show for the pick-- not a Matt Higgins or Terry Ryan or Eric Chouinard or Brent Bilodeau or David Wilkie or.... you get the point.

sachmo71 · 07-24-2005, 07:38 AM

So the real NHL thread was deleted because someone changed the title? Sheesh.

Draft Dodger · 07-24-2005, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bbor

Mark my words...Undersized NHL'ers will be the norm soon....3-5 years max.

so that officially ends our chances of making it, eh?

Honolulu_Blue · 07-24-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

For HB:

This article indicates that 66% of buyouts count against the cap, which wasn't the way I understood it.

hxxp://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-flyers-leclair&prov=ap&type=lgns

Are you as confused as I am???

~rpi-fan

Yes. I am.

I think Yahoo is getting it wrong. The way I understand it is that teams who buy out a player's contract within this initial "one time only" period, which ends Friday, I think, are free from thay player's contract for good. No cap consequences.

In the future, however, the 2/3 buy out /will/ count against the cap. I think that's where Yahoo is getting confused.

Again, I think...

bbor · 07-24-2005, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

so that officially ends our chances of making it, eh?

LMAO

Karim · 07-24-2005, 11:58 AM

TSN is once again doing a superb job. Who gets their hockey information from Yahoo?

Here's a list of all the teams, players under contract, salary committed after rollback, along with free agent and buyout tracking:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=7006

Draft Dodger · 07-24-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Karim

TSN is once again doing a superb job. Who gets their hockey information from Yahoo?

Here's a list of all the teams, players under contract, salary committed after rollback, along with free agent and buyout tracking:
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=7006

agreed - TSN is where it's at for hockey news

TazFTW · 07-24-2005, 04:02 PM

Here's another good article by TSN concerning each team's potential buyouts, top newcomers (players coming from juniors), needs, etc...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=10414

Draft Dodger · 07-24-2005, 04:50 PM

should be a VERY interesting (and probably gut-wrenching) off season for the Avs. Not that any of you will care

ice4277 · 07-24-2005, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

should be a VERY interesting (and probably gut-wrenching) off season for the Avs. Not that any of you will care

Actually, I care a great deal. I'm probably just a lot more happy about it than you are

klayman · 07-24-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

should be a VERY interesting (and probably gut-wrenching) off season for the Avs. Not that any of you will care

The last time I cared about the Avs they were called the Quebec Nordiques. And even then I didn't care that much.

Maple Leafs · 07-24-2005, 07:42 PM

Does anyone know if teams are allowed to have contact with other teams free agents? What about UFAs?

Seems like an important detail, but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. For example, if a team like the Leafs is trying to figure out whether or not to cut Belfour it could make a major difference if they were allowed to find out whether a guy like Cujo would be willing to take a paycut to come replace him.

TazFTW · 07-24-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Does anyone know if teams are allowed to have contact with other teams free agents? What about UFAs?

I do not think they can. The following

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July 23

Compliance Buy-Out Period Begins
Period to Negotiate and Sign 2003 Draftees Begins
Period to Extend QOs Begins
Period to Negotiate with Own Club's RFAs/UFAs Begins

would indicate that teams can only talk to their own RFAs/UFAs. The rest can talk Aug. 1.

Maple Leafs · 07-24-2005, 07:59 PM

Makes sense.

So this non-sense about the Leafs secretly talking to Forgsberg is just a bunch of BS... good to hear.

Joe Canadian · 07-24-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Does anyone know if teams are allowed to have contact with other teams free agents? What about UFAs?

Seems like an important detail, but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. For example, if a team like the Leafs is trying to figure out whether or not to cut Belfour it could make a major difference if they were allowed to find out whether a guy like Cujo would be willing to take a paycut to come replace him.

I really hope that, wether or not they can have contact with other UFA's, the Leafs to buy out Beflour's contract...

TazFTW · 07-24-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Makes sense.

So this non-sense about the Leafs secretly talking to Forgsberg is just a bunch of BS... good to hear.

Well, there are probably ways around that. It depends on what the NHL defines as contact.

Draft Dodger · 07-24-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Makes sense.

So this non-sense about the Leafs secretly talking to Forgsberg is just a bunch of BS... good to hear.

you don't want Forsberg?

Maple Leafs · 07-24-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

you don't want Forsberg?

No, but I'm not convinced it's in the Leafs' best interest to sign only one FA (assuming he wants the max), and if they did decide to that route they probably need a guy like Neidermayer more.

Now if he wants to take a discount to play with Sundin, that's a different story...

Draft Dodger · 07-24-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

No, but I'm not convinced it's in the Leafs' best interest to sign only one FA (assuming he wants the max), and if they did decide to that route they probably need a guy like Neidermayer more.

Now if he wants to take a discount to play with Sundin, that's a different story...

I'm actually not convinced he even wants to play in the NHL anymore, but I gues that's an even more different story

DeToxRox · 07-24-2005, 09:59 PM

Yeah, I too question Forsbergs desire to play in the NHL, though he may benefit more then anyone with the new rules. He was ALWAYS mugged. Maybe this will ease his decesion.

Galaxy · 07-24-2005, 10:35 PM

I can't wait. Sabres all the way! Finally got a rich, good-guy, non-crock owner in Tommy, and a first in sports ticketing (I think) in ticket prices. A four-level pricing system for the level of opponents (the better and bigger rivals cost more, with bad teams being cheaper) across the board. Season Tickets are very affordable.

Joe Canadian · 07-24-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

No, but I'm not convinced it's in the Leafs' best interest to sign only one FA (assuming he wants the max), and if they did decide to that route they probably need a guy like Neidermayer more.

If they can get Neidermayer, Kariya, and Khabby... I'll be a happy camper.

klayman · 07-25-2005, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I can't wait. Sabres all the way! Finally got a rich, good-guy, non-crock owner in Tommy, and a first in sports ticketing (I think) in ticket prices. A four-level pricing system for the level of opponents (the better and bigger rivals cost more, with bad teams being cheaper) across the board. Season Tickets are very affordable.

Yeah, that's a sweet deal the Saber fans are getting. I hope it spreads through the rest of the NHL.

ice4277 · 07-25-2005, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by klayman

Yeah, that's a sweet deal the Saber fans are getting. I hope it spreads through the rest of the NHL.

I think it may happen with teams that struggle to fill their arenas most nights. However, in cities like Detroit, Toronto, etc, where the seats are always filled, it wouldn't make much sense from a business perspective for owners to lower prices, at least not much more than a token amount.

RPI-Fan · 07-25-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

If they can get Neidermayer, Kariya, and Khabby... I'll be a happy camper.

Haha, Leafs fans are hilarious. If you sign those guys, you'll have $10mil in cap space, to get 16 guys locked up.

07-23-2005, 09:52 PM	#6
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	Why did the old thread get deleted? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

07-23-2005, 10:01 PM	#8
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Well, since I was the one that deleted it, I'd say something, but I'll let others put their spin on it before I really chime in. But I will say PEOPLE LOST POSTS!!!! edit: see the PING: Easy Mac thread for one person's displeasure. But I'll end my participation here unless it is otherwise warranted. Last edited by Easy Mac : 07-23-2005 at 10:02 PM.

07-23-2005, 10:16 PM	#9
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	For HB: This article indicates that 66% of buyouts count against the cap, which wasn't the way I understood it. hxxp://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-flyers-leclair&prov=ap&type=lgns Are you as confused as I am??? ~rpi-fan __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

07-23-2005, 10:17 PM	#11
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	I'm under the impression that (for the next ten days only) buyouts count $0 against the cap. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-23-2005, 10:20 PM	#13
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Right, although according to TSN they get paid over the balance of their contract, not one lump sum. So Yashin gets his money spread over six years. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-23-2005, 03:52 PM	#2
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	From what I've read, the Coyotes might be interested in bringing Amonte back. Posted this in the now deleted thread, Bertuzzi to see his suspension extended 10-20 games. http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=131115

07-23-2005, 04:10 PM	#3
Booj High School JV Join Date: Feb 2003	As a Canadiens fan, I have a lot of excitement for this coming season (like I mentioned late in the deleted thread). The #5 pick is disappointing having come so close (and having several heart attacks through the lottery) but I am very excited-- if used properly. If the Canadiens could pick up Johnson, Pouliot or Ryan, I would be ecstatic. To me, Gilbert Brule is what the Habs already have too much of-- undersized skilled forwards. I'm also happy with the prospect of having the entire 03-04 team back (save Dackell, Garon, Juneau and Perreault). I hope Gainey could pull in a free agent to replace Kovalev as well... maybe even Kovalev himself who showed great chemistry with Koivu and Zednik in the playoffs. Kovalev also said he'd like to come back, and with no teams willing to spend the 6 million he would have been looking for under the new system, it seems like a good chance he'll be back. Having said all that, Montreal seems - to me - to be the favorite in the Northeast division (until we see what Boston does with their loads of cap room).

07-23-2005, 09:59 PM	#7
Ragone Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, Mo	good quest.. no idea..

07-23-2005, 10:19 PM	#12
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	thats how they made it sound. still a decent deal for the teams, not quite 0 though. just so i understand as well, the players still get the money even if they sign with a new team, correct?

07-23-2005, 10:25 PM	#15
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Pretty much, I don't like some wanna be mod going behind my back changing the name of a thread I started. You want a different name, ask me, or at least say, hey i'd like to rename the thread. Whats they point of making a post if a mod is just going to come behind me and change it? And calling me a pussy and a faggot is a quick way to get me to delete a thread. But there's a new thread, so who cares, everyone wins (and at least JeeberD wasn't posting there, or we'd have real controversy).

07-24-2005, 12:35 AM	#22
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	Because he's a vBulletin hax0r.

07-24-2005, 03:27 AM	#24
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Mark my words...Undersized NHL'ers will be the norm soon....3-5 years max. __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

07-24-2005, 07:38 AM	#27
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	So the real NHL thread was deleted because someone changed the title? Sheesh.

07-24-2005, 11:58 AM	#31
Karim College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Calgary	TSN is once again doing a superb job. Who gets their hockey information from Yahoo? Here's a list of all the teams, players under contract, salary committed after rollback, along with free agent and buyout tracking: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=7006

07-24-2005, 04:02 PM	#33
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Here's another good article by TSN concerning each team's potential buyouts, top newcomers (players coming from juniors), needs, etc... http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature.asp?fid=10414

07-24-2005, 04:50 PM	#34
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	should be a VERY interesting (and probably gut-wrenching) off season for the Avs. Not that any of you will care __________________ Mile High Hockey

07-24-2005, 07:42 PM	#37
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Does anyone know if teams are allowed to have contact with other teams free agents? What about UFAs? Seems like an important detail, but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. For example, if a team like the Leafs is trying to figure out whether or not to cut Belfour it could make a major difference if they were allowed to find out whether a guy like Cujo would be willing to take a paycut to come replace him. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-24-2005, 07:59 PM	#39
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Makes sense. So this non-sense about the Leafs secretly talking to Forgsberg is just a bunch of BS... good to hear. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

07-24-2005, 09:59 PM	#45
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Yeah, I too question Forsbergs desire to play in the NHL, though he may benefit more then anyone with the new rules. He was ALWAYS mugged. Maybe this will ease his decesion.

07-24-2005, 10:35 PM	#46
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I can't wait. Sabres all the way! Finally got a rich, good-guy, non-crock owner in Tommy, and a first in sports ticketing (I think) in ticket prices. A four-level pricing system for the level of opponents (the better and bigger rivals cost more, with bad teams being cheaper) across the board. Season Tickets are very affordable.

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