Lost, Season 2 - Page 9

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Sure, but you are ignoring the "Kate in a towel" factor.

And this was the most disappointing episode ever, IMO, for flashbacks. All we learned about Hurley was that he worked in a fast food job (we sort of knew that) and had a best friend.

True, but I don't think it was disappointing. We still don't know for what reason Hurley went to the psych ward, what happened to his friendship. We are slowly learning how the numbers altered his life. You learn other attributes about him as well. The other survivors appear to have broken into another hatch, which hatch (project)? The others tortured and slaughtered them? As if we couldn't figure it out, but Roses husband is still alive. Sayid and Jack have discovered another part of the hatch that they are in. Still leaves alot unanswered questions and mysteries which will keep most coming back, meanwhile providing more details and information in bits.

Samdari · 10-13-2005, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

True, but I don't think it was disappointing. We still don't know for what reason Hurley went to the psych ward, what happened to his friendship. We are slowly learning how the numbers altered his life. You learn other attributes about him as well. The other survivors appear to have broken into another hatch, which hatch (project)? The others tortured and slaughtered them? As if we couldn't figure it out, but Roses husband is still alive. Sayid and Jack have discovered another part of the hatch that they are in. Still leaves alot unanswered questions and mysteries which will keep most coming back, meanwhile providing more details and information in bits.

I was not disappointed in the stuff that happened on the Island. I just, for the first time, felt myself thinking the flashbacks were completely pointless. We learned far more about how the numbers changed Hurley's life in his last episode. We just learned a little bit more about what his life was like before that. We know that winning the lottery did not make his life better - all these flashbacks did was re-emphasize that point, but we already knew it.

Less pointless flashbacks, more Kate in underwear/vent/towel.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Did anyone else check out the milk carton at the beginning of the episode that Hurley was drinking from? Right when he sees Jin in his dream, there is a picture of Walt on the side of the carton and it says MISSING on the top.

I just watched the clip, and yes it looks similar but think about the timeline. How old is that stuff? The picture looks like a very recent picture of Walt if it is him. I guess milk does go bad, but that would mean, that they recently got a shipment in of food? But from where?

Samdari · 10-13-2005, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

I just watched the clip, and yes it looks similar but think about the timeline. How old is that stuff? The picture looks like a very recent picture of Walt if it is him. I guess milk does go bad, but that would mean, that they recently got a shipment in of food? But from where?

Its in a dream. The pic is not necesarily really on a milk carton in the hatch.

EDIT: But there does have to have been a shipment of food. Right before Hurley has his beach barbeque, he justifies it by saying to jack that there was enough for Desmond to eat for two months (?). But he had been there for three years. He has to have gotten supplied in that time.

KWhit · 10-13-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

But there does have to have been a shipment of food. Right before Hurley has his beach barbeque, he justifies it by saying to jack that there was enough for Desmond to eat for two months (?). But he had been there for three years. He has to have gotten supplied in that time.

Yep. That was the most enlightening/interesting thing i the whole episode.

Subby · 10-13-2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Yep. That was the most enlightening/interesting thing i the whole episode.

I thought he said there was enough for the survivors to eat for 2 weeks...

Honolulu_Blue · 10-13-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

Sure, but you are ignoring the "Kate in a towel" factor.

And this was the most disappointing episode ever, IMO, for flashbacks. All we learned about Hurley was that he worked in a fast food job (we sort of knew that) and had a best friend.

I kind of liked the Hurley flashbacks. It was certainly a character-heavy episode, but I don't mind that at all. It added some further depth to Hurley. I was a fan.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Subby

I thought he said there was enough for the survivors to eat for 2 weeks...

He said there was enough for one person to eat well for 3 months, but they had 40 people to feed.

Raiders Army · 10-13-2005, 09:12 AM

I thought they did the Hurley flashbacks just so D.J. Qualls could make an appearance. That guy's 15 minutes of fame need to be up. He peaked on Road Trip.

Did anyone else notice that Cynthia Watros (any Titus fans?) was going to be on the show as a regular? I think she looks pretty good.

moriarty · 10-13-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Samdari

EDIT: But there does have to have been a shipment of food. Right before Hurley has his beach barbeque, he justifies it by saying to jack that there was enough for Desmond to eat for two months (?). But he had been there for three years. He has to have gotten supplied in that time.

I'm not sure that means anything. Desmond might have started with 38 months of food, he ate through 3 years worth and now there's only 2 months left. Doesn't necessarily mean that there's been recent shipments.

Now, if you ask how come the candy bars and potato chips, etc... are still fresh, then maybe that suggests there have been recent deliveries. Of course we might just be reading too much into it.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

I'm not sure that means anything. Desmond might have started with 38 months of food, he ate through 3 years worth and now there's only 2 months left. Doesn't necessarily mean that there's been recent shipments.

Now, if you ask how come the candy bars and potato chips, etc... are still fresh, then maybe that suggests there have been recent deliveries. Of course we might just be reading too much into it.

Or maybe there is a BJs/Sams Club/Price Club on the island?

Joe Canadian · 10-13-2005, 11:04 AM

Does someone have the episode on tape? Could you go back to the part where Hurley & Road Trip guy were in the record store, right after Hurley bumps into the CD rack a blond woman walks into scene behind them... is it Shannon?

Joe Canadian · 10-13-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

He said there was enough for one person to eat well for 3 months, but they had 40 people to feed.

That's where she's from... I've been watching a whole bunch of Dre Carey re-runs on TBS lately, and I've been trying to figure out what other show she was on.

cthomer5000 · 10-13-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

I don't remember if they mentioned where exactly Kate was from, but I assumed it was somewhere mid-west. The tags are probalby a dead end then.

The episode is in IOWA, as the state trooper's car right before the crash clearly says it.

cthomer5000 · 10-13-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Does someone have the episode on tape? Could you go back to the part where Hurley & Road Trip guy were in the record store, right after Hurley bumps into the CD rack a blond woman walks into scene behind them... is it Shannon?

Much too blurry to tell, the character never comes into focus.

cthomer5000 · 10-13-2005, 05:38 PM

Oh, and we've now seen Dharma logo #3 in the hatch on the other side of the island. This one looks like a cross-hair inside.

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 05:41 PM

That is a hot ass right there.

cthomer5000 · 10-13-2005, 05:44 PM

i think we need to study this for clues:

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 06:08 PM

I was watching some of last year's episodes and I ran into this. Now how did we miss this one???

Antmeister · 10-13-2005, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I was watching some of last year's episodes and I ran into this. Now how did we miss this one???

Nice fake...it doesn't even blur with the rest of the picture.

SegRat · 10-13-2005, 06:33 PM

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The "Orientation" film's jarring jump cuts are actually what [Damon] Lindelof calls "missing pieces" that resulted when former hatch hermit Desmond spliced the broken movie back together after watching it too many times. Those missing pieces will become "very important plot points down the road." Lindelof confirms that Walt said, "Push the button. Don't push the button. Bad." Cuse admitted that Shannon's jungle encounter with Walt was a dream. Says Lindelot: "I think the audience is very compelled to figure out exactly where Desmond was running to and, once he gets there, what is he going to do. We told you that he was in a [ship] wreck, but I think there are a lot of questions about how exactly he came to be here. That's certainly a story on the horizon." "It's important to note," Lindelof says, "that we've never said when the plane crashed. I think the assumption is that it happened in 2004 when the show premiered, but we've never said that." Was Mr. Rutherford [from Jack's flashback in episode 2.01] Shannon's dad? Her ex-husband? Expect to find out in an episode airing during November sweeps. "The Helen we meet in flashbacks is not the same Helen that Locke was speaking to on the phone," Lindelof clarifies, sort of. Lindelof says, "What happened to the 'tailies' that so drastically whittled their numbers is a very compelling mystery that drives us through the first third of the season." A major character dies in an episode before the holidays. Expect a reunion between Rose and husband Bernard.

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 06:37 PM

I guess you warned me, but I wish I didn't read that. Especially the second-to-last sentence.

Joe Canadian · 10-13-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I guess you warned me, but I wish I didn't read that. Especially the second-to-last sentence.

Well you knew it had to happen... I think it's a safe bet that it will happen once every season, if not twice in some.

kingfc22 · 10-13-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

I guess you warned me, but I wish I didn't read that. Especially the second-to-last sentence.

I'm glad I stopped then once I hit the Shannon part. Phew, I think

jbmagic · 10-13-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Does someone have the episode on tape? Could you go back to the part where Hurley & Road Trip guy were in the record store, right after Hurley bumps into the CD rack a blond woman walks into scene behind them... is it Shannon?

i notice that too. but they blured the person out.

Poli · 10-13-2005, 08:42 PM

I just watched Boone die. That sucked. Friggin' Locke.

gottimd · 10-13-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Oh, and we've now seen Dharma logo #3 in the hatch on the other side of the island. This one looks like a cross-hair inside.

Now that looks more like the logo on the shark....I think.

kingfc22 · 10-13-2005, 09:49 PM

Hmmm. Could that logo be a plane? The horizontal line looks thicker than the vertical line almost like a plane.

Swaggs · 10-13-2005, 11:04 PM

What are thoughts on how the new group of flight survivors went from 23 members to 5 or 6?

I think the fact that they had a "prison" built, acted so aggresively, and have camoflauged (sp?) the entrance to their hatch makes it seem that the "others" killed them.

sovereignstar · 10-13-2005, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister71

Nice fake...it doesn't even blur with the rest of the picture.

BTW, it blurs with my old-school monitor. I never thought of that. I did use the blur tool a little bit though. I should never do PS work on my desktop.

Antmeister · 10-14-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

BTW, it blurs with my old-school monitor. I never thought of that. I did use the blur tool a little bit though. I should never do PS work on my desktop.

All you needed was the blur and lighten up on the opacity and it would have looked more convincing.

sovereignstar · 10-14-2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister71

All you needed was the blur and lighten up on the opacity and it would have looked more convincing.

Thanks for the tidbits, coolroy.

gottimd · 10-14-2005, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

What are thoughts on how the new group of flight survivors went from 23 members to 5 or 6?

I think the fact that they had a "prison" built, acted so aggresively, and have camoflauged (sp?) the entrance to their hatch makes it seem that the "others" killed them.

I think they were tortured and slaughtered by the others, and in the process of surviving and escaping the others, found the hatch, which they can lock and remain safe. They must be able to lock it, because if the Others are truly the degroots, you would figure that they know where the other hatches are and search in them.

Maybe they were tortured because they were looking for Walt in the wrong group of people at first?

gottimd · 10-14-2005, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Did anyone else check out the milk carton at the beginning of the episode that Hurley was drinking from? Right when he sees Jin in his dream, there is a picture of Walt on the side of the carton and it says MISSING on the top.

moriarty · 10-14-2005, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gottimd

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is, if this is Hurley's dream and it has Walt on the milk carton .... how does Hurley even know that Walt is missing? As far as he knows he's been rescured on the raft.

Probably just a joke by the writers/directors.

gottimd · 10-14-2005, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by moriarty

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is, if this is Hurley's dream and it has Walt on the milk carton .... how does Hurley even know that Walt is missing? As far as he knows he's been rescured on the raft.

Probably just a joke by the writers/directors.

Could be just a subconcious thought. Maybe since Walt is a kid, and when kids are missing, they put them on Milk Cartons. I am reading too much into it.

As for the Shannon comment during Hurleys flashback, the person is way too blurry to even see. I think if it was her, she wouldn't have been so blurry, they would want you to see her in the background but in a subtle manner.

gottimd · 10-14-2005, 10:32 AM

Apparently episode 7 of this season (we have only seen 4 so far) will be all about the Tail end of the plane.

Joe Canadian · 10-14-2005, 02:47 PM

Can't take credit for this, but I found this interesting fact on another forum, and I haven't been able to confirm it:

1) The Candy bar in the hatch that no one remembers is called Apollo
2) There are six numbers in the number sequence
3) There are supposed to be six experimental locations
4) The first Dharma logo looks like a Swan
5) The second Dharma logo looks like an arrow pointed up
6) There are six constellations of Apollo
7) The constellations are: Cygnus = swan; Sagitta = arrow; Corvus = crow; Crater = goblet; Ophiuchus = serpent handler; Orion = the hunter

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Another question for those with last season on DVD... is Rose's husband in any of last years backstories... specificlly regarding a law frim or Jin.

Swaggs · 10-14-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Can't take credit for this, but I found this interesting fact on another forum, and I haven't been able to confirm it:

1) The Candy bar in the hatch that no one remembers is called Apollo
2) There are six numbers in the number sequence
3) There are supposed to be six experimental locations
4) The first Dharma logo looks like a Swan
5) The second Dharma logo looks like an arrow pointed up
6) There are six constellations of Apollo
7) The constellations are: Cygnus = swan; Sagitta = arrow; Corvus = crow; Crater = goblet; Ophiuchus = serpent handler; Orion = the hunter

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Another question for those with last season on DVD... is Rose's husband in any of last years backstories... specificlly regarding a law frim or Jin.

Good call.

I would say that this:

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Oh, and we've now seen Dharma logo #3 in the hatch on the other side of the island. This one looks like a cross-hair inside.

... could definitely be the arrow.

BigDPW · 10-14-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Good call.

I would say that this:

... could definitely be the arrow.

Or crosshairs to signify "hunter"...

Joe Canadian · 10-14-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Good call.

I would say that this:

... could definitely be the arrow.

Yes it is... someone on another forum has it blown up and it looks like an arrow, the other horizontal "line" is actually the word Dharma.

Poli · 10-14-2005, 07:23 PM

Nearly finished with season 1.

Kate flashback here near the end (second episode on disc 6) has her digging something up (I don't know what it is yet). The guy she's digging with says, "No self-respecting man in Iowa goes anywhere without beer."

Poli · 10-14-2005, 07:24 PM

Bah, the friggin' plane.

illinifan999 · 10-14-2005, 07:30 PM

Thanks to this I had to start getting in on it too. Already watched the first 3 episodes, can't wait to get caught up.

Joe Canadian · 10-14-2005, 10:09 PM

Just picked up Season One for $20 CDN at Future Shop... my aunt gave me a gift card she got as a gift because she never buys anything there.

jbmagic · 10-16-2005, 04:10 PM

anybody catch that hurley boss was the same boss of locke?

it sure looks liek Hurley boss is locke boss on the last episode.

timmynausea · 10-16-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

anybody catch that hurley boss was the same boss of locke?

it sure looks liek Hurley boss is locke boss on the last episode.

I didn't realize it, but according to IMDB it is the same guy, playing the same character, in both episodes(104 and 204).

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0302965/

Bearcat729 · 10-19-2005, 08:32 PM

I wonder how many people played 4 8 15 16 23 42 for tonights powerball?

LoneStarGirl · 10-19-2005, 08:40 PM

That had to be Walt with the Teddy Bear.

cthomer5000 · 10-19-2005, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

That had to be Walt with the Teddy Bear.

I really don't see why Walt would have a teddy bear, he's seriously way too old for that.

edit: an it's a pair of white legs that were carrying it. Not Walt.

10-13-2005, 11:04 AM	#412
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	Does someone have the episode on tape? Could you go back to the part where Hurley & Road Trip guy were in the record store, right after Hurley bumps into the CD rack a blond woman walks into scene behind them... is it Shannon? __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

10-13-2005, 06:33 PM	#421
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	Very interesting Spoilers sort of . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The "Orientation" film's jarring jump cuts are actually what [Damon] Lindelof calls "missing pieces" that resulted when former hatch hermit Desmond spliced the broken movie back together after watching it too many times. Those missing pieces will become "very important plot points down the road." Lindelof confirms that Walt said, "Push the button. Don't push the button. Bad." Cuse admitted that Shannon's jungle encounter with Walt was a dream. Says Lindelot: "I think the audience is very compelled to figure out exactly where Desmond was running to and, once he gets there, what is he going to do. We told you that he was in a [ship] wreck, but I think there are a lot of questions about how exactly he came to be here. That's certainly a story on the horizon." "It's important to note," Lindelof says, "that we've never said when the plane crashed. I think the assumption is that it happened in 2004 when the show premiered, but we've never said that." Was Mr. Rutherford [from Jack's flashback in episode 2.01] Shannon's dad? Her ex-husband? Expect to find out in an episode airing during November sweeps. "The Helen we meet in flashbacks is not the same Helen that Locke was speaking to on the phone," Lindelof clarifies, sort of. Lindelof says, "What happened to the 'tailies' that so drastically whittled their numbers is a very compelling mystery that drives us through the first third of the season." A major character dies in an episode before the holidays. Expect a reunion between Rose and husband Bernard. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

10-13-2005, 08:42 PM	#426
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I just watched Boone die. That sucked. Friggin' Locke. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-13-2005, 09:49 PM	#428
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Hmmm. Could that logo be a plane? The horizontal line looks thicker than the vertical line almost like a plane. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-13-2005, 11:04 PM	#429
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	What are thoughts on how the new group of flight survivors went from 23 members to 5 or 6? I think the fact that they had a "prison" built, acted so aggresively, and have camoflauged (sp?) the entrance to their hatch makes it seem that the "others" killed them. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-13-2005, 09:12 AM	#409
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I thought they did the Hurley flashbacks just so D.J. Qualls could make an appearance. That guy's 15 minutes of fame need to be up. He peaked on Road Trip. Did anyone else notice that Cynthia Watros (any Titus fans?) was going to be on the show as a regular? I think she looks pretty good.

10-13-2005, 05:41 PM	#417
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	That is a hot ass right there.

10-13-2005, 06:08 PM	#419
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I was watching some of last year's episodes and I ran into this. Now how did we miss this one???

10-13-2005, 06:37 PM	#422
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I guess you warned me, but I wish I didn't read that. Especially the second-to-last sentence.

10-14-2005, 10:32 AM	#437
gottimd Dearly Missed (9/25/77-12/23/08) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: DC Suburbs	Apparently episode 7 of this season (we have only seen 4 so far) will be all about the Tail end of the plane. __________________ NAFL New Orleans Saints GM/Co-Commish MP Career Record: 114-85 NAFL Super Bowl XI Champs In memory of Gavin Anthony: 7/22/08-7/26/08

10-14-2005, 02:47 PM	#438
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	Can't take credit for this, but I found this interesting fact on another forum, and I haven't been able to confirm it: 1) The Candy bar in the hatch that no one remembers is called Apollo 2) There are six numbers in the number sequence 3) There are supposed to be six experimental locations 4) The first Dharma logo looks like a Swan 5) The second Dharma logo looks like an arrow pointed up 6) There are six constellations of Apollo 7) The constellations are: Cygnus = swan; Sagitta = arrow; Corvus = crow; Crater = goblet; Ophiuchus = serpent handler; Orion = the hunter ------ Another question for those with last season on DVD... is Rose's husband in any of last years backstories... specificlly regarding a law frim or Jin. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

10-14-2005, 07:23 PM	#442
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Nearly finished with season 1. Kate flashback here near the end (second episode on disc 6) has her digging something up (I don't know what it is yet). The guy she's digging with says, "No self-respecting man in Iowa goes anywhere without beer." __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-14-2005, 07:24 PM	#443
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Bah, the friggin' plane. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-14-2005, 07:30 PM	#444
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Thanks to this I had to start getting in on it too. Already watched the first 3 episodes, can't wait to get caught up. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

10-14-2005, 10:09 PM	#445
Joe Canadian College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada	Just picked up Season One for $20 CDN at Future Shop... my aunt gave me a gift card she got as a gift because she never buys anything there. __________________ Steve Davis (Joe Canadian) GO LEAFS GO!! GO FOG DEVILS GO!! LETS GO JAYS!! EHM 2005 DYNASTY: A New Philosophy in Toronto!

10-16-2005, 04:10 PM	#446
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	anybody catch that hurley boss was the same boss of locke? it sure looks liek Hurley boss is locke boss on the last episode.

10-19-2005, 08:32 PM	#448
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	I wonder how many people played 4 8 15 16 23 42 for tonights powerball?

10-19-2005, 08:40 PM	#449
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	That had to be Walt with the Teddy Bear.

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