Alright boyz, here we go!!! FM 2006 First Impressions - Page 2

Bee · 10-25-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

I don't remember if or how the player's morale was affected. I didn't even play the game that much compared to a lot of you guys, so now I'm starting to wonder if I just imagined it. How could I see it and you guys not? Maybe it didn't really happen.

Wasn't your imagination...I've seen the same commentary. If it affected their morale, it was pretty minor (like from Superb to Very Good).

Bee · 10-25-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

I rarely pull out a player that is doing well among a bunch of players having a bad game, and when I do, it's because his condition is around 65%. I'm thinking he doesn't really mind to be pulled out when he's unable to run after opponents.

It really wouldn't surprise that it is possible to happen and I've never seen it. The depth of this game never cease to amaze me...

FM

Yep, under those circumstances you probably wouldn't get it. The times I remember it happening I was up by 4 or 5 goals at half time and was looking to get some experience for a youngster, so I'd pull someone who was still relatively fresh and had put up very good numbers in the first half. I only saw it a few times over the last few versions (and I don't know if it's still in the game or not).

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 02:33 PM

DaddyTorgo dropped it off, and I am now impatiently waiting for the patch to finish, then off I go! Wonder how my section of the data worked out.. (I was one of the MLS mini-researchers, so if you think the Revs are too powerful, you can always blame me

)

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 02:44 PM

game loading now, I am officially a league whore in FM2006, 35 nations, 54 leagues, with all the USA players loaded

FrogMan · 10-25-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

game loading now, I am officially a league whore in FM2006, 35 nations, 54 leagues, with all the USA players loaded

dear God

35 nations!!! All on normal or is that including those on basic?

If all on normal, may I ask what kind of beast you're running this thing on? I mean I know you'll only be coming for air in what, 7 weeks, but still, an answer would be cool

FM

Coffee Warlord · 10-25-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

game loading now, I am officially a league whore in FM2006, 35 nations, 54 leagues, with all the USA players loaded

You plan on running like...a game a week?

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan

dear God

35 nations!!! All on normal or is that including those on basic?

If all on normal, may I ask what kind of beast you're running this thing on? I mean I know you'll only be coming for air in what, 7 weeks, but still, an answer would be cool

FM

All on Normal:

AMD Athlon64 Processor
3000+
2.0 Ghz, 1.50 GB of Ram
PAE

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 02:59 PM

More like a game every 15-20 minutes, but that's cool.

I accidentally started with USA time frame (Feb05, but that's ok, I'll manage till July 05 with New England, then add a big name Foreign team)

FrogMan · 10-25-2005, 03:01 PM

that's pretty fast, although you got a better processor than I do and three times as much RAM as I do, heh

When you say a game every 15-20 minutes, that's a game of your team?

FM

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2005, 03:09 PM

wooohooo

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 03:33 PM

Yup, I'll play 3-4 weeks an hour once I get going (right now, I'm posting to the Dynasties forum, so that's slowing me down.

)

Marc Vaughan · 10-25-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Sheesh... do you take your players out when they get tired? ..or leave the good ones in all game long?

Very basic rule of thumb for soccer sims - players won't be 'tired' until around 60-65 minutes unless they get a knock in a match, obviously if someones playing dreadfully then don't worry about subbing them before that.

Also word of warning - subbing goalies is a good way to destroy their confidence ... this happens very very rarely irl unless they're injured for just this reason.

Marc Vaughan · 10-25-2005, 04:13 PM

PS> My hints and tips file (kicking around on sigames.com and some other sites) covers some basic tactics etc.
(end blatant plug

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Coffee Warlord · 10-25-2005, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Also word of warning - subbing goalies is a good way to destroy their confidence ... this happens very very rarely irl unless they're injured for just this reason.

Out of curiosity, does this apply in friendlies? I've often swapped keepers at halftime or thereabouts in the preseason to get them both into form.

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 04:27 PM

No, Friendlies are exhibition games so the goalie expects it.

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 04:29 PM

BTW, anyone see the picture of the PSP version of FM2006?

Guh. I might have to buy a PSP just for that, looks so sweet.

RPI-Fan · 10-25-2005, 04:31 PM

What does running a league on "Basic" mean?

klayman · 10-25-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Ok, now a team wants one of my players who was a scrub, but is now doing quite well for me since I brought him up from the reserve squad.

My question? I want to reject the proposal right? I mean, I really don't want to lose this guy right now. What are the benefits to letting him leave, other than making some cash?

On top of what Frogman has already said, it's important to consider the player's relationship to you and the team. If the player is unhappy with you, you might have difficulty signing him when his contract is expiring, and then risk the prospect of losing him for free to another team. You also have to judge the proposal to his value to you. If he is a scrub that you called up, it's likely he is replacing an injuried player, or you are looking actively for someone better to play his position. In that case his playing time might considerably drop soon and with it his value.

On the other hand, if he keeps playing and playing well, then his value might double or triple to the offer you all ready have, so if you sell now you miss out. Of course, if you don't sell now and if he is ambitious, then he might want to leave anyway, cause now he's too good for the club. Or he might demand wages out of your budget, and you'll have to try to sell him for cheap before his contract expires.

A billion things could happen. So what should you do? You're the manager, that's up to you

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 04:47 PM

From Marc:

Also bear in mind that FM2006 introduces the concept of a 'basic' modelling level for a league, this is much faster than a normal or full detail league - however it doesn't actively retain players from that league so only the bigger clubs will be fully populated ...

You do however in this mode get to see league tables etc. for the league in question.

RPI-Fan · 10-25-2005, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

From Marc:

Also bear in mind that FM2006 introduces the concept of a 'basic' modelling level for a league, this is much faster than a normal or full detail league - however it doesn't actively retain players from that league so only the bigger clubs will be fully populated ...

You do however in this mode get to see league tables etc. for the league in question.

Can you later manager team(s) in "Basic" leagues? Can you switch them to normal or full detail at a later point?

klayman · 10-25-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

What does running a league on "Basic" mean?

Basic just simulates the league with games and stats, but you are not allowed to manage in it. The amount of players loaded in the database is higher than when the league is not selected, but lower for the normal league selection.

klayman · 10-25-2005, 04:50 PM

klayman · 10-25-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

Can you later manager team(s) in "Basic" leagues? Can you switch them to normal or full detail at a later point?

no

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2005, 08:03 PM

had problems so far getting the game to start more than once (bad sectors on the HD maybe?). I think I've finally got that licked now though and am looking forward to firing this puppy up!

jbmagic · 10-25-2005, 08:13 PM

wow there so many different tactics you can do.

anybody have a great guide on tactics and what kind of personal you need to run each type of tactics?

thanks

Eaglesfan27 · 10-25-2005, 08:39 PM

I haven't finished catching up with this thread yet, but I've seen players in either CM 03/04 or FM 05 get pissed off for being taken out, particularly if they were close to their hattrick. I remember when I had one mercurial player (can't remember which one) he would routinely become quite angry at me for taking him out in the 2nd half.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-25-2005, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

game loading now, I am officially a league whore in FM2006, 35 nations, 54 leagues, with all the USA players loaded

Dang! I have a monster computer that FM 06 is going on, but I was only planning on doing about 15 nations and 30-35 leagues (with me managing in the MLS.)

jbmagic · 10-25-2005, 08:59 PM

Eaglefan27 cool

i cant wait to hear your impression son how the MLS league is done in fm 2006

MizzouRah · 10-25-2005, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Very basic rule of thumb for soccer sims - players won't be 'tired' until around 60-65 minutes unless they get a knock in a match, obviously if someones playing dreadfully then don't worry about subbing them before that.

Also word of warning - subbing goalies is a good way to destroy their confidence ... this happens very very rarely irl unless they're injured for just this reason.

Thanks to all your guys!! Your help is greatly appreciated. I am determined to get into FM one way or another. More questions will follow I'm sure.

Marc,

I was pulling goalies like I would a hockey goalie... whoops! I am undefeated though, so hey..

Allow two easy goals and your getting replaced!

I pulled this striker from my reserve squad and the guy has been unreal so far for me.. now, a team wants him.. so I think I'll hold on to him for now.

SirFozzie · 10-25-2005, 09:31 PM

Here's a picture (click to get the full version) of the Aurora Blue Flow Skin in FM2006. It rocks.

Sadalia · 10-25-2005, 09:45 PM

Yeah, I love the Aurora skins; before I got them I didn't really think a skin could add that much to a gaming experience, but these days I find playing FM without Aurora pretty much unthinkable.

FrogMan · 10-25-2005, 10:30 PM

I like my silverstone skin for FM2005, but I think Aurora will be the one for FM2006, at least at first...

FM

RPI-Fan · 10-25-2005, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Thanks to all your guys!! Your help is greatly appreciated. I am determined to get into FM one way or another. More questions will follow I'm sure.

Marc,

I was pulling goalies like I would a hockey goalie... whoops! I am undefeated though, so hey..

Allow two easy goals and your getting replaced!

I pulled this striker from my reserve squad and the guy has been unreal so far for me.. now, a team wants him.. so I think I'll hold on to him for now.

I still replace goalies when I don't like their performance.

Fortunately for them, in Belgium, you can only dress 4 subs so I usually don't have a goalie on the bench. But I definitely have a very tight string when it comes to not starting a goalie if he has an average game or worse (doesn't hurt that I have two legit #1's, a young guy who's playing well in limited chances, and a teenager who is tearing up the reserves -- <0.50 GAA).

Fouts · 10-26-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

More like a game every 15-20 minutes, but that's cool.

I accidentally started with USA time frame (Feb05, but that's ok, I'll manage till July 05 with New England, then add a big name Foreign team)

What do you mean by "add a big name Foreign team" ?

Fouts · 10-26-2005, 12:27 AM

BTW, does anyone start the game unemployed? I did this for the FM2006 demo and picked up a team pretty quickly. We kicked some butt during the 6 months even though all the game previews said we had no chance. I didn't understand why they said we suck, and then preceded to slaughter everyone.

Either the press was way off, or the game let me win to get me to buy it.

I am dying to get my hands on this game. One thing I enjoyed was the home page, ton of team info there. I hope the next version of EHM has that.

SirFozzie · 10-26-2005, 12:28 AM

add a manager, managing a big name team, that is.. (Since from February to july, they literally have nothing to do, if you start the game in Feb05)

FM2006 is a LOT faster then 05.

Fouts · 10-26-2005, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

add a manager, managing a big name team, that is.. (Since from February to july, they literally have nothing to do, if you start the game in Feb05)

FM2006 is a LOT faster then 05.

Are you saying you can roleplay as 2 different managers in the same universe?

Maybe I am misunderstanding.

SirFozzie · 10-26-2005, 12:30 AM

yes, you can have multiple managers (The demo only allows 1).. but you can play games with multiple managers either over the net, or just on one computer.

For example, DaddyTorgo and I are going to be doing a net game as the Old Firm in the next few weeks.

Fouts · 10-26-2005, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

yes, you can have multiple managers (The demo only allows 1).. but you can play games with multiple managers either over the net, or just on one computer.

For example, DaddyTorgo and I are going to be doing a net game as the Old Firm in the next few weeks.

Wow, very cool. I would be interested in hearing how the net game goes. I'm not even sure how you can manage it.

Crapshoot · 10-26-2005, 12:38 AM

Old Firm loving scum! My Hearts team is about to break their hold on the SPL (Celtic just fired O'Neill and are in 5th - Hearts havent lost a game in 30 and are in Champions League QF, but still goddamn second to Rangers)

daedalus · 10-26-2005, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Are you saying you can roleplay as 2 different managers in the same universe?

Can't speak for any of the earlier version but I was able to do that even back in 01/02.

Marc Vaughan · 10-26-2005, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

BTW, anyone see the picture of the PSP version of FM2006?

Guh. I might have to buy a PSP just for that, looks so sweet.

Heh - thats exactly what I've done ... we'll be getting some test UMD's in the near(ish) future for the game (prior to that we have to play on 'test-kits' and PC based emulation versions) and I've made a point of purchasing a PSP so I can play on the train on a PSP once we've got them in (if you're interested I picked up a Japanese PSP from Ebay for £120 which wasn't bad (around 60% of retail price in UK).

Marc Vaughan · 10-26-2005, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by daedalus

Can't speak for any of the earlier version but I was able to do that even back in 01/02.

All versions of CM/FM since CM2 have been able to have multiple managers.

All versions of CM/FM since CM3 have had network games.

(if you didn't realise you can mix and match the two, for instance have a network game on 2 PC's in different locations and have 3 managers on each PC's for a total of six managers in the game etc.)

moriarty · 10-26-2005, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

wow there so many different tactics you can do.

anybody have a great guide on tactics and what kind of personal you need to run each type of tactics?

thanks

JB - try the hint guide in this thread:

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/foru...han+hints+tips

Francis_Cole · 10-26-2005, 08:40 AM

BTW, does anyone start the game unemployed?

Some would say thats the only way to go

!

Passacaglia · 10-26-2005, 09:43 AM

I don't have FM 2006, but my typical start is unemployed, then wait for the first vacancy in conference north/south.

Calis · 10-26-2005, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

For example, DaddyTorgo and I are going to be doing a net game as the Old Firm in the next few weeks.

You better be Celtic!

And you better win.

Fugging Huns.

SirFozzie · 10-26-2005, 10:09 AM

I plan on being Celtic.

And I plan on running Rangers ragged.

"Glasgow is green and white.. GREEEENNN AND WHITE!"

SirFozzie · 10-26-2005, 10:36 AM

Hey Marc.. where did the Print To Text button go? I do miss it so...

FrogMan · 10-26-2005, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Hey Marc.. where did the Print To Text button go? I do miss it so...

you mean, it's not under "options, print screen" like in FM2005?

FM

10-25-2005, 02:33 PM	#53
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	DaddyTorgo dropped it off, and I am now impatiently waiting for the patch to finish, then off I go! Wonder how my section of the data worked out.. (I was one of the MLS mini-researchers, so if you think the Revs are too powerful, you can always blame me ) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 02:44 PM	#54
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	game loading now, I am officially a league whore in FM2006, 35 nations, 54 leagues, with all the USA players loaded __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 02:59 PM	#58
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	More like a game every 15-20 minutes, but that's cool. I accidentally started with USA time frame (Feb05, but that's ok, I'll manage till July 05 with New England, then add a big name Foreign team) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 03:01 PM	#59
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	that's pretty fast, although you got a better processor than I do and three times as much RAM as I do, heh When you say a game every 15-20 minutes, that's a game of your team? FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog... Last edited by FrogMan : 10-25-2005 at 03:01 PM.

10-25-2005, 03:33 PM	#61
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Yup, I'll play 3-4 weeks an hour once I get going (right now, I'm posting to the Dynasties forum, so that's slowing me down. ) __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 03:09 PM	#60
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wooohooo

10-25-2005, 04:13 PM	#63
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	PS> My hints and tips file (kicking around on sigames.com and some other sites) covers some basic tactics etc. (end blatant plug )

10-25-2005, 04:27 PM	#65
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	No, Friendlies are exhibition games so the goalie expects it. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 04:29 PM	#66
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	BTW, anyone see the picture of the PSP version of FM2006? Guh. I might have to buy a PSP just for that, looks so sweet. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 04:31 PM	#67
RPI-Fan Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Troy, NY	What does running a league on "Basic" mean? __________________ Quis custodiets ipsos custodes?

10-25-2005, 04:47 PM	#69
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	From Marc: Also bear in mind that FM2006 introduces the concept of a 'basic' modelling level for a league, this is much faster than a normal or full detail league - however it doesn't actively retain players from that league so only the bigger clubs will be fully populated ... You do however in this mode get to see league tables etc. for the league in question. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 04:50 PM	#72
klayman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edmonton	doh

10-25-2005, 08:03 PM	#74
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	had problems so far getting the game to start more than once (bad sectors on the HD maybe?). I think I've finally got that licked now though and am looking forward to firing this puppy up!

10-25-2005, 08:13 PM	#75
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	wow there so many different tactics you can do. anybody have a great guide on tactics and what kind of personal you need to run each type of tactics? thanks

10-25-2005, 08:39 PM	#76
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I haven't finished catching up with this thread yet, but I've seen players in either CM 03/04 or FM 05 get pissed off for being taken out, particularly if they were close to their hattrick. I remember when I had one mercurial player (can't remember which one) he would routinely become quite angry at me for taking him out in the 2nd half. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

10-25-2005, 08:59 PM	#78
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	Eaglefan27 cool i cant wait to hear your impression son how the MLS league is done in fm 2006

10-25-2005, 09:31 PM	#80
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Here's a picture (click to get the full version) of the Aurora Blue Flow Skin in FM2006. It rocks. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-25-2005, 09:45 PM	#81
Sadalia n00b Join Date: Jul 2005	Yeah, I love the Aurora skins; before I got them I didn't really think a skin could add that much to a gaming experience, but these days I find playing FM without Aurora pretty much unthinkable.

10-25-2005, 10:30 PM	#82
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	I like my silverstone skin for FM2005, but I think Aurora will be the one for FM2006, at least at first... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

10-26-2005, 12:27 AM	#85
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	BTW, does anyone start the game unemployed? I did this for the FM2006 demo and picked up a team pretty quickly. We kicked some butt during the 6 months even though all the game previews said we had no chance. I didn't understand why they said we suck, and then preceded to slaughter everyone. Either the press was way off, or the game let me win to get me to buy it. I am dying to get my hands on this game. One thing I enjoyed was the home page, ton of team info there. I hope the next version of EHM has that.

10-26-2005, 12:28 AM	#86
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	add a manager, managing a big name team, that is.. (Since from February to july, they literally have nothing to do, if you start the game in Feb05) FM2006 is a LOT faster then 05. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-26-2005, 12:30 AM	#88
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	yes, you can have multiple managers (The demo only allows 1).. but you can play games with multiple managers either over the net, or just on one computer. For example, DaddyTorgo and I are going to be doing a net game as the Old Firm in the next few weeks. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-26-2005, 12:38 AM	#90
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Old Firm loving scum! My Hearts team is about to break their hold on the SPL (Celtic just fired O'Neill and are in 5th - Hearts havent lost a game in 30 and are in Champions League QF, but still goddamn second to Rangers) Last edited by Crapshoot : 10-26-2005 at 12:52 AM.

10-26-2005, 08:40 AM	#95
Francis_Cole SI Games Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London, England	BTW, does anyone start the game unemployed? Some would say thats the only way to go ! __________________ "We are not the Chad Pennington Jets" - Chad Pennington

10-26-2005, 09:43 AM	#96
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I don't have FM 2006, but my typical start is unemployed, then wait for the first vacancy in conference north/south.

10-26-2005, 10:09 AM	#98
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	I plan on being Celtic. And I plan on running Rangers ragged. "Glasgow is green and white.. GREEEENNN AND WHITE!" __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 10-26-2005 at 10:09 AM.

10-26-2005, 10:36 AM	#99
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Hey Marc.. where did the Print To Text button go? I do miss it so... __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

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