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Old 10-31-2005, 07:55 PM   #201
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Maybe somebody can help me.

I've played around with the new training system in the demo, working out a few schedules. Which category in training does Off The Ball skill fall under? My strikers and mids all lost points there after a few months, so I figure I'm not training whatever that falls under.

Speaking in general soccer terms, off the ball training would be more on the tactical side of things. It would be how a player would gets involves without the ball. It is a very important concept in soccer. A player who is good off the ball can make timely runs to create space for his teammates. I would suggest looking at the tactical training.

I would also like to suggest that everyone pick up a book or two on soccer. It will go along way in your immersion of FM.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:57 PM   #202
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:37 PM   #203
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:02 PM   #204
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helo where is download thx


I'm anxious for it too, but FM 05 will do for now
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Old 10-31-2005, 10:27 PM   #205
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helo where is download thx

patience, patience, go to sleep and it'll be there when you'll wake up, just like Christmas

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Old 11-01-2005, 07:35 AM   #206
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patience, patience, go to sleep and it'll be there when you'll wake up, just like Christmas

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I think I should've slept in.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:36 AM   #207
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I think I should've slept in.

yeah, looks like Santa's little helper are a bit on the slow side for the moment

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Old 11-01-2005, 07:45 AM   #208
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:18 PM   #209
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I got out of work early (shelter closed earlier than expected) and I was all excited about downloading the game. I guess it isn't out yet?
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:21 PM   #210
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nope, isn't, although Marc Vaughan's been suspiciously absent from the board today...


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Old 11-01-2005, 12:26 PM   #211
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nope, isn't, although Marc Vaughan's been suspiciously absent from the board today...


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Oh well, I've almost never been so happy to get out of work early (since I thought it would be ready for download), but I'll be happy to play some Civ4 or FM 05 for now
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:33 PM   #212
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For what it's worth, the digital download release for EHM 2005 was a total disaster.
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:35 PM   #213
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For what it's worth, the digital download release for EHM 2005 was a total disaster.

On release day you mean? Is it any better now? I mean have the kinks been worked out?

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:37 PM   #214
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Well I don't think they ever had a release day set for the digital download of EHM 2005. Supposedly some mumbo jumbo with lawyers and territories and crap like that. Then all of the sudden a link popped up around 11 pm central. Caused a little panic as some were able to get it and some weren't. Then, if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't the version that everyone needed to have, so everyone had to re-download the next day.
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:39 PM   #215
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:39 PM   #216
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I see. Hopefully they have learned something from that fiasco, same way I have learned over the year to double check what file I make available to the masses within my company

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:43 PM   #217
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We're getting some words from SI guys...

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Yes, the game is still meant to be available today as a digital download.

At the moment, due to time differences, we are awaiting final confirmation on whether the files have been uploaded, work, and can be downloaded.

Without that, we can't give you guys a link. It's somewhat frustrating at the moment, to put it mildly.

We'll be continuing to check for the next 6 hours (to take us to midnight UK time), and will update if and when we hear more.

http://community.sigames.com/groupee...3212033861/p/3

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:20 PM   #218
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I hardly ever go to SIgames' forum and really appreciate the updates Frogman.
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:19 PM   #219
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Just found something I've never seen before in an SI game - my scout looking for young talents reported back on a young 17 year old defender from the Manchester area.

In his profile it had a 'media outlook' line (or similar) which read 'Touted as the next Wes Brown'.

Seriously cool

(Although whether being the next Wes Brown is a compliment or an insult to the guy I've not worked out yet )
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:22 PM   #220
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(Although whether being the next Wes Brown is a compliment or an insult to the guy I've not worked out yet )

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Old 11-01-2005, 05:42 PM   #221
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Well, it's pushing midnight in the UK. Looks like we won't be getting the download tonight. I ain't mad about it, but I'm still gonna be a little impatient. I guess it's Civilization IV tonight!
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Old 11-01-2005, 05:43 PM   #222
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Pumpy, I don't even need the new game since I wanna keep on playing my FM2005 career, but I kinda feel down about this... oh well...

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Old 11-01-2005, 05:46 PM   #223
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Pumpy, I don't even need the new game since I wanna keep on playing my FM2005 career, but I kinda feel down about this... oh well...

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Old 11-01-2005, 05:59 PM   #224
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I think FM and I both want the new game, we just want to continue our FM 05 dynasties as well
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:31 PM   #225
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oh, I will be getting the game, I just won't be starting a very serious career rightaway, thus getting the download today or tomorrow doesn't make that big a difference to me...

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Old 11-01-2005, 06:33 PM   #226
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:34 PM   #227
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Looks like it will not happen today folks...

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Just to confirm, it's now passed midnight here and there is no news. We'll need to wait until tomorrow(UK time) for an update. Apologies for the delay...

http://community.sigames.com/groupee...3212033861/p/3

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Old 11-01-2005, 08:50 PM   #228
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Just found something I've never seen before in an SI game - my scout looking for young talents reported back on a young 17 year old defender from the Manchester area.

In his profile it had a 'media outlook' line (or similar) which read 'Touted as the next Wes Brown'.

Seriously cool

(Although whether being the next Wes Brown is a compliment or an insult to the guy I've not worked out yet )

In the demo I saw that US keeper Brad Guzan was "touted as the next Brad Friedel."
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Old 11-01-2005, 08:56 PM   #229
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oh, I will be getting the game, I just won't be starting a very serious career rightaway, thus getting the download today or tomorrow doesn't make that big a difference to me...

FM

Same here. I won't start my serious dynasty for at least a few patches. However, I am anxious to see this game in action as I haven't tried the demo at all.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:00 PM   #230
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Same here. I won't start my serious dynasty for at least a few patches. However, I am anxious to see this game in action as I haven't tried the demo at all.

I think you'll be in love, I've played the demo quite a bit.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:04 PM   #231
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i am very nervous in getting this game. it will be my first soccer sim game.

just hope i will understand how to play the game and understand all the rules.

the depth of this game got my interest.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:08 PM   #232
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i am very nervous in getting this game. it will be my first soccer sim game.

just hope i will understand how to play the game and understand all the rules.

the depth of this game got my interest.

jb...you're italian and you don't understand the rules of soccer?? what!?!?!?
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:12 PM   #233
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Just found something I've never seen before in an SI game - my scout looking for young talents reported back on a young 17 year old defender from the Manchester area.

In his profile it had a 'media outlook' line (or similar) which read 'Touted as the next Wes Brown'.

Seriously cool

(Although whether being the next Wes Brown is a compliment or an insult to the guy I've not worked out yet )

Have a look a Adailton and Grégory Bourillon from Rennes.
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:15 PM   #234
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jb...you're italian and you don't understand the rules of soccer?? what!?!?!?


yes but grew up in the states.

just never really follow it much accept a little when the world cup is on tv.

just need to brush up on transfers, loans, tactics, what ratigns are important for each position, etc....
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:29 PM   #235
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:46 PM   #236
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FWIW, I went into Gamestop today to see if they had any idea when my copy of the game would be in and they said that they did not get it in yet. And they would call when it did come in. I am trying to be patient, but I have my hopes very high. I need that game.
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Old 11-02-2005, 06:30 AM   #237
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So I finally gave in and tinkered with the demo while I wait for my copy to arrive.

LOVE the new things that have already mentioned (side/position proficiencies, "moves", extra comments). Have not seen any mention of the switch from DM to WB but I dig that.

Still wish for multiple select (ie, select players 1-to-20 and scout). Still wish for more keyboard commands as the clicking is going to kill my wrist and accelerate the onset of carpal tunnel.

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1) If I have a player (for example, Ryan Smith) who is proficient (let's say, at Accomplished) at the AML slot but is not at the ML slot (let's say, at Unconvincing) and my formation (let's say, a flat 4-4-2) has my wing at the ML slot with an arrow up to the AML slot which should, in theory, have him operate mainly in the AML area of the field when we are in possession. Will he be operating at his more proficient slot of AML, where he should be playing in, or at the lesser one of ML, where he starts out at?

2) If I have a player who is rated at two position (let's say, left and centre) and he's less proficient at centre. If I set him to train in the centre in the hope of increasing his knowledge in that area, will that hurt his proficiency on the left (or make him lose the ability altogether)? I know it sounds illogical but I was under the impression that it was how it worked in CM 01/02 (which was the last version I was familiar with).

3) Slightly related to Q2 is whether I even need to train the aforementioned player in the centre of the pitch or if I can actually raise his proficiency by simply playing him there once he is already rated there (let's say that I would like to increase an Ineffectual to an Accomplished)?

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Old 11-02-2005, 08:41 AM   #238
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I hope that I don't sound like I'm shitting on SI's efforts to get the download ready, but I'm somewhat disappointed right now. As much as I'd like to support their North American sales, I would've ordered from the UK over a week ago. The FM patches generally come out before the WWSM patches, so it would've been a boost to get FM, and it also appears that I would've had it sooner. I would've had to spend more money, but that wouldn't have bothered me.

At my last check, GameStop's website listed the ship date as November 7. I assume that the download hasn't been pushed back that far, but at this point, I don't know what to think anymore.

I'll still download on the first day that it's available. I just wish things had worked out a little differently.
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:45 AM   #239
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Could someone give me an idea of the difference between part-time and full-time players? And what impact it has on your team? I have never really utilized signing guys to PT contracts at the lower levels. What impact does it have? Does it have any benefits to your squad?
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:52 AM   #240
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I just wish things had worked out a little differently.
You're not the only one - we're doing everything we can to get into stores reasonable fast and get decent coverage, unfortunately as always its a tad chicken and egg, until its released in America well it doesn't have the proven sales base there, until it has the proven sales base there stores are reluctant to stock it in reasonably large numbers ...

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Could someone give me an idea of the difference between part-time and full-time players? And what impact it has on your team? I have never really utilized signing guys to PT contracts at the lower levels. What impact does it have? Does it have any benefits to your squad?

Part-time players will train less (duh? ) however they're much cheaper to keep at a club, which is important for the semi-pro clubs.

You will find however especially in the English conference national that a part-time team has a definite disadvantage against professional teams because the extra training and fitness gives them an edge, especially late into a season ...
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:53 AM   #241
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PS> Best adjvantage to P/T contracts in the lower leagues is to allow you to keep a very cheap youth/reserve team in case of emergency (reserves) or in case of potential (youth).
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:09 AM   #242
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I've been playing since I got the game on Monday and I have to say I'm once again having a blast. I've completely set aside Civ IV and am spending every free moment with FM2006 (probably to the detriment of my marriage...).
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:46 AM   #243
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PS> Best adjvantage to P/T contracts in the lower leagues is to allow you to keep a very cheap youth/reserve team in case of emergency (reserves) or in case of potential (youth).

Thanks Marc, that is the info that I was looking for.
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:06 AM   #244
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Hey Marc, question.

All my end-of-season loans ended about 2 days before the league table playoffs. Which, needless to say, sucked.

Is this actually how the Real World Works? If it ain't...dear god please change it!
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Old 11-02-2005, 10:37 AM   #245
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while many of us are waiting for the digidownload to become available, I got this question about it.

Is the "try and buy" download going to be one that you have to try with only quickstarts or can you really start a real game that would simply stop working after six months of playing time?

Maybe somebody who's tried the EHM try and buy could answer.

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Old 11-02-2005, 11:23 AM   #246
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while many of us are waiting for the digidownload to become available, I got this question about it.

Is the "try and buy" download going to be one that you have to try with only quickstarts or can you really start a real game that would simply stop working after six months of playing time?

Maybe somebody who's tried the EHM try and buy could answer.

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You should be able to start off like you would in a normal game, ie no quickstarts.
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You should be able to start off like you would in a normal game, ie no quickstarts.

cool, thanks.

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Old 11-02-2005, 12:05 PM   #248
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Judging from this thread (http://community.sigames.com/groupee...3212033861/p/3), the release of the digital download is out of SI's hands. Graeme Kelly has stated that they're waiting for some news, and I assume that that news will determine when the download is released.

What about the ship date, though? Was it actually November 1 or has it been pushed back? I've even seen the game listed on Wal-Mart's site (still as a preorder). I don't know if Wal-Mart will stock the game in-store, but that would be pretty cool. If the download is not ready by the time I'm back near home, I'll stop into Wal-Mart and check for it, although I don't expect it to be there. GameStop seems pretty set on selling it next week. I don't know of any other stores that might be stocking the game.

I feel like I'm hunting for NCAA 2006 all over again, except I don't need to check 7 stores in one day this time.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:14 PM   #249
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What we have here..

is a failure to communicate.
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:23 PM   #250
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Digi-download - we provide the game itself, it then goes to the digi service provider to get 'wrapped' and finally if I remember right Sega America get to host it, so a lot of this is out of our direct control ...

I believe we're waiting on other companies currently, but it shouldn't be too long now ..
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