OT: The FOFC Music Draft

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Subby

Without naming other songs, I can think of at least 5 others that I would consider way more epic.

Whenever classic rock format XL-102 in Richmond had their "Top 500 songs of all time" Stairway was always #1. This is how I was raised.

I'm interested to see what you thought were better epics... I'm by no means a music expert, far from it...

I would however, think of at least 5 or 10 songs that to me are better values for Classics.. anyway... interested to see how it plays out...

[NoMyths]

I am not unhappy to see Stairway off the board. I'm not sure I would have made it my #1 classic. And maybe not even my #1 from Zeppelin.

*OMINOUS PIANO CHORD!*

[Subby]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

I am not unhappy to see Stairway off the board. I'm not sure I would have made it my #1 classic. And maybe not even my #1 from Zeppelin.

*OMINOUS PIANO CHORD!*

Yeah yeah - we know you will pick like five Elliott Smith and two Tom Waits songs just to show us HOW AWESOME YOU ARE!!

[Maple Leafs]

Stairway is probably a worthy top pick.

Lathum is on the clock with pick #1.2. I'll give him an hour to make a pick, otherwise I'll use the one he originally sent.

[NoMyths]

Originally Posted by Subby

Yeah yeah - we know you will pick like five Elliott Smith and two Tom Waits songs just to show us HOW AWESOME YOU ARE!!

DOH! Quit giving away my draft list!!!1

[NoMyths]

dola...

And Lathum better not steal Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music from me...

[Lathum]

Classic -
Epic -
Arena -
Trendsetter - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana- 1.2
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

[Lathum]

I can't think of a song that changed a generation of music more. I almost went with the thong song, it was a tough choice.

[NoMyths]

Dang, sorta. On the other hand...

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Classic -
Epic -
Arena -
Trendsetter - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana- 1.2
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

[Lathum]

I knew that one wouldn't last long

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I knew that one wouldn't last long

Agreed, but it was not on my list as #1 trendsetter.

[Maple Leafs]

NoMyths, you know you're up, right?

[KevinNU7]

I love this thread. I wish I was participating

[NoMyths]

A hard, hard thing to choose between by top picks. At the end of the day, I had to go with the American iconoclast, who probably stands as the most important musician the country has produced. This is his greatest achievement.

Classic - Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan - 1.3
Epic -
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

[NoMyths]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

NoMyths, you know you're up, right?

Damn, give a brotha half an hour!

I'm at work.

[Maple Leafs]

Butter_of_69 is on the clock at 1.4.

I'll give him a little while to make a pick. However, the pick he sent is so strong that I don't mind making it for him if he's not around soon.

[wade moore]

I have to say that I think you put Dylan on a much higher pedestal than many others.

[NoMyths]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I have to say that I think you put Dylan on a much higher pedestal than many others.

I'm unbothered by where I put Dylan in any discussion with folks who know much about music.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I have to say that I think you put Dylan on a much higher pedestal than many others.

Not that you shouldn't, but you probably could've held that pick for a couple rounds.

[albionmoonlight]

My #1 is now starting to fidget a bit in its suit in the green room.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

I'm unbothered by where I put Dylan in any discussion with folks who know much about music.

This is where Maple Leafs comment about "knowing too much" about music could hurt you in this game comes into play.

[Maple Leafs]

Incidentally, I think Stairway to Heaven was in over half of the "top three" submissions I got.

[KevinNU7]

I'm curious how the scoring will work. Will you do 10 points for Top votes in a category followed by 9 for 2nd, ect... or will it just be a contest to see who can get the most Top vote categories?

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

I'm curious how the scoring will work. Will you do 10 points for Top votes in a category followed by 9 for 2nd, ect... or will it just be a contest to see who can get the most Top vote categories?

How to win:
The fun here comes more from the draft itself than from actually winning, but just in case it matters: Once the draft is done, we'll hold a vote and let FOFC choose the winner. FOFC will pick someone shitty. They always do.

It's just a straight-up poll thread. The lists are shown and then the masses get to decide who has the best "team".

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

I'm curious how the scoring will work. Will you do 10 points for Top votes in a category followed by 9 for 2nd, ect... or will it just be a contest to see who can get the most Top vote categories?

In the past we just did a poll. But I suspect that when the draft is over I'll consider various scoring methods, and go with whichever one gives me the best chance to win.

[vtbub]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

In the past we just did a poll. But I suspect that when the draft is over I'll consider various scoring methods, and go with whichever one gives me the best chance to win.

In English:

Whoever picks G'N'R.

[KevinNU7]

Mel how do you feel about the first three picks so far.




1 and 2 went right where I felt they could go. These songs are solid choices in their categories and if a team has a need at that position they are clear selections. Pick 3 for Like a Rolling Stone really blows me away. I had this one in the mid to late rounds and I'm baffelled. This pick will not sit well with the mainstream fans.

I have to agree, you can hear those Giants fans booing already.

[Maple Leafs]

I'll make Butter's pick at noon EST (20 minutes).

Up next, as of now:
1.4 Butter
1.5 Leafs
1.6 Deacon
1.7 vtbub

[NoMyths]

I'm surprised that folks are shocked by Like a Rolling Stone. I suppose I'll pick Chumbawumba's "Tubthumper" next. :P

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

I'm surprised that folks are shocked by Like a Rolling Stone. I suppose I'll pick Chumbawumba's "Tubthumper" next. :P

Me too, actually. I wouldn't have it ranked at #1.3 but I think the odds of it still being there for your second round pick was less than 50/50.

[KevinNU7]

My problem is that Stairway is already a better selection for that category. There are 8 categories that haven't been opened yet, you should have gone for the best in that category first.

[KevinNU7]

Well after butter picks it looks like we will get through the others quickly as Leafs, deacon and vtbub are all online right now

[NoMyths]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Me too, actually. I wouldn't have it ranked at #1.3 but I think the odds of it still being there for your second round pick was less than 50/50.

My thought process was also along the lines of defining songs...while there are plenty of bands who have a ton of great songs still on the board, I can see the vote being split over folks who feel the choice of Great Band's Song X over Song Y is terrible. Taking Dylan off the board with LARS -- aside from it is being of the greatest songs ever written and a trendsetter -- avoids that argument somewhat.

No risks = no rewards. Though I'm truly baffled that this pick is seen as risky. I'd have not been surprised to see the song go #1 overall, and would have taken it there myself.

[Maple Leafs]

Here's Butter's selection.... I love this pick.

Classic -
Epic - 1.4 - Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

[NoMyths]

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

My problem is that Stairway is already a better selection for that category. There are 8 categories that haven't been opened yet, you should have gone for the best in that category first.

Strategerie, my friend. I have other controversial picks for those categories lined up.

[Maple Leafs]

Trade alert

vtbub and I have swapped picks in the first and second rounds. He gets picks 1.5 and 2.6, I get picks 1.7 and 2.4.

vtbub is on the clock at 1.5

[MikeVic]

Butter's pick would have been my #1 if I was in this thing.

[KevinNU7]

GOLD!

[eiskrap]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Here's Butter's selection.... I love this pick.

Classic -
Epic - 1.4 - Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

unbeatable...

[wade moore]

Interesting... not even my top Queen pick... I think I would have thrown "We are the Champions or "We Will Rock You" as Arena rock over this one here.

[Lathum]

I almost picked that one

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by MikeVic

Butter's pick would have been my #1 if I was in this thing.

Picks like these can win these drafts.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Interesting... not even my top Queen pick... I think I would have thrown "We are the Champions or "We Will Rock You" as Arena rock over this one here.

The more I think about this, the more I think Butter was smarter with Queen than I would have been .

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by NoMyths

A hard, hard thing to choose between by top picks. At the end of the day, I had to go with the American iconoclast, who probably stands as the most important musician the country has produced. This is his greatest achievement.

Classic - Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan - 1.3
Epic -
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -

That was my 1-1 pick (if I had one). Good choice.

[vtbub]

Classic - Yesterday- The Beatles 1.5
Epic -
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment -


The most covered song in the world is my classic pick.

[KevinNU7]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Interesting... not even my top Queen pick... I think I would have thrown "We are the Champions or "We Will Rock You" as Arena rock over this one here.

There are tons of Arena songs to chose from, I can think of many many songs out there that would be ahead of either of those.

[Crapshoot]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I have to say that I think you put Dylan on a much higher pedestal than many others.

You're kidding, right? Dylan is probably the greatest artist in American music (hell, music) of the last 50 years.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

You're kidding, right? Dylan is probably the greatest artist in American music (hell, music) of the last 50 years.

Bob Dylan appears to be the Vince Young of this draft.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

You're kidding, right? Dylan is probably the greatest artist in American music (hell, music) of the last 50 years.

Perhaps for music buffs.

For the general public, I don't think that you'd get a strong vote for Dylan. That's all I'm sayin'.