Werewolf XLVIII - The horror of sorcery hill (Game over) - Page 13

RendeR · 07-06-2007, 08:48 PM

Ok based on the voting as it goes now, I gotta trust the group as a whole and go with that:

UNVOTE LSG

VOTE LATHUM

Lathum · 07-06-2007, 08:49 PM

unvote hoopsguy
vote barkeep

I hope this keeps me in the game

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 08:49 PM

Unvote Lathum
Vote hoops

I don't think I've ever been a wolf when people feel like my play is "off". Just when I've done some sort of suspicious action.

Lathum · 07-06-2007, 08:49 PM

lol, lynch me fine, look to hoops tomorrow.

Lathum · 07-06-2007, 08:50 PM

render, a vote for me is a bad idea

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Read my above post where I say I found an item, so tell me hoops, how is that initialy saying I didn't find anything?

VOTE HOOPSGUY

seems like a set up to me

Part of the reason I list post #'s is so people can double-check my stuff, make sure I'm representing the data correctly. I'm glad you did catch the mistake, apologized for the confusion, and moved the vote.

If this gets me lynched, so be it. But there was no setup intended.

Poli · 07-06-2007, 08:50 PM

What the heck is going on?

Chief Rum · 07-06-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

All right, since hoops has been in this thread chomping at the bit to figure out what's going on...

I've got holy water.

We're not sure whether this is something that will help a good guy or hurt a bad guy...maybe it's both. Any thoughts?

So you have a special container now, too, right? If so, you have everything you need.

It's my belief you would throw the holy water at a baddie and it would kill him or at least reveal him. It could also be a healing type of potion, but I haven't seen that there is any stopping point between "healthy" and "dead" yet in this game. So not sure if it's likely to be a healing potion. Unless it can raise the dead.

Lathum · 07-06-2007, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

What the heck is going on?

hoops set me up.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 08:52 PM

I know we have only ten minutes remaining, but what do you all think about the new voting dynamic we have here (and I will explain)?

Previously, wolves did not want to vote together, so that they were not associated together. But, in this game, voting together gives folks a better chance to recover items, so it may be worth it to them.

I am curious if they realized that by the first vote, because there were quite a few single-person votes (and granted no one had more than an item or two to begin with, so it wasn't as big of a deal).

Lathum · 07-06-2007, 08:52 PM

dola- last post for a while, I'll check back for the results but I am at the inlaws and am going to get dirty looks soon.

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 08:52 PM

Updated vote count, as of Post #609:
Lathum - Pass (533), Path (581), NTN (588), RendeR (601)
Hoops - LSG (547), Barkeep (603)
Barkeep - Swaggs (587), Hoops (597), Lathum (602)

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 08:53 PM

Unvote Lathum
Vote Barkeep

Poli · 07-06-2007, 08:54 PM

What happens in a tie? NM, I'll look it up.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 08:54 PM

I hate to pull the late switch, but that was pretty shady of hoops.

Pretty uncharacteristic play from two of our vets here. This is a tough game.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 08:54 PM

nt, do you have any basis or just playing by feel?

You've been fairly quiet with your votes.

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 08:55 PM

Swaggs, if you think I'm trying to double-cross you should vote me. I wasn't - it wouldn't make sense as a bad guy play at this phase in the game even if I was a wolf.

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 08:56 PM

Updated count, still a few outstanding votes, as of Post #617:

Lathum - Pass (533), Path (581), RendeR (601)
Hoops - LSG (547), Barkeep (603)
Barkeep - Swaggs (587), Hoops (597), Lathum (602), NTN (613)

Poli · 07-06-2007, 08:57 PM

I can't find anything on a tie.

Lathum · 07-06-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Swaggs, if you think I'm trying to double-cross you should vote me. I wasn't - it wouldn't make sense as a bad guy play at this phase in the game even if I was a wolf.

actualy it makes perfect sense. You know Passacaglia passed me a recipe and you know I have at least 2 items, that makes me a viable target IMO

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 08:58 PM

GAH! Hoops: YOU should be the one to face scrutiny when I come up innocent following your 72% theory.

Unvote hoops
Vote Lathum

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 08:58 PM

So, we're waiting on Chief and AE here?

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 08:58 PM

(if hoops list is right)

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 08:58 PM

FTR I have passed an item to Render and path. I fairly trust path. Render seemed as good of a bet as anyone.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

more playing by feel than any reason Swaggs

I did change from Lasthum on the mis info

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

AE, you and Chief still have outstanding votes. I'm guessing that BK will swing his vote to force a tie if push comes to shove, which it will really soon.

Poli · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

Dude, I so don't know what to do.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

I am back to watching Dr. Who

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

AE, you and Chief still have outstanding votes. I'm guessing that BK will swing his vote to force a tie if push comes to shove, which it will really soon.

Already done

.

Chief Rum · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

I have to vote now, assuming Alan cuts it off at 10 EST, even if he's not here. It' sbetween Lathum and BK. I will stick with my suspicions from yesterday.

VOTE BARKEEP

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 08:59 PM

Gah! Vote Ardent. SUre you could condemn an innocent villager (me for sure) but let's not face the potential double lynch.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I have to vote now, assuming Alan cuts it off at 10 EST, even if he's not here. It' sbetween Lathum and BK. I will stick with my suspicions from yesterday.

VOTE BARKEEP

You lose.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 09:00 PM

Unvote Barkeep

Vote Lathum

Poli · 07-06-2007, 09:00 PM

My best guess:

VOTE LATHUM

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:00 PM

Well this was fun with the close vote at the end that I could enjoy rather than having to leave work right when it happened. Too bad you all struck out with me. 100%.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 09:01 PM

I don't like the way that went down... hope I didn't force a tie.

And I know it will make me look bad.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:01 PM

Oh wow. Does Alan accept votes on the deadline?

Chief Rum · 07-06-2007, 09:01 PM

I have mushrooms and a recipe. I stayed in the library again last night (and discovered the recipe). It's one we already know, and Swaggs already had mushrooms. So I'm pretty much worthless so far.

I am willing to pass along the shrooms to someone who can use them. Unless someone wants to pass me peppers or knows of another recipe involving mushrooms.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I don't like the way that went down... hope I didn't force a tie.

And I know it will make me look bad.

Well Swaggs I am good, so that should make you feel better. I don't know about Lathum though. Would rather that have been hoops in the bullseye and I think Lathum feels the same.

Poli · 07-06-2007, 09:02 PM

FWIW, this pretty much sucked balls.

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 09:02 PM

Depends on how it is scored:

9:59 PM EST - Barkeep 5-4
10:00 PM EST - Lathum 6-4

Chief Rum · 07-06-2007, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

You lose.

If so, we live and learn. I wouldn't have minded voting for Lathum either. Neither of you really put up compelling cases for yourselves from what I have seen, although I admit I had to pretty much blow through the last two pages or so of posts.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:04 PM

Here's what I don't get: Every game where there are non-standard rules, I push for extra information being divulged. In games where roles have undefined meetings I push for role reveals. In a game like this I push for item reveal. This is a consistent policy, and I've even started threads outside of games about it.

Yet every time I get harassed. I really suppose I should just drop the whole damn thing. I hate dying as a suspicious person but it frustrates me since I really feel like it's the best play for the villagers. Especially in a game like this where it'll be Day 4 and it should eb the first day we have things together after basically allowing the wolves three free days to munch.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Well Swaggs I am good, so that should make you feel better. I don't know about Lathum though. Would rather that have been hoops in the bullseye and I think Lathum feels the same.

Well, I would look at me for the late vote change if I were you all, but it felt like folks were waiting for someone to pile on to once I voted for you and everyone flocked, all at once.

I realize there was a sort of justification for people falling off of Lathum, but the two folks (AE and CR) waiting to the last minute made me want to pull things off and avoid a tie. Hopefully it doesn't screw us too badly.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If so, we live and learn. I wouldn't have minded voting for Lathum either. Neither of you really put up compelling cases for yourselves from what I have seen, although I admit I had to pretty much blow through the last two pages or so of posts.

That's cause there is NO case for me to defend against. It's just that I don't "feel" right. I mean how am I supposed to defend against a feel?

Me: "No Bob you don't feel that way"
Bob: "Oh thanks. I'll unvote you then"

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Well, I would look at me for the late vote change if I were you all, but it felt like folks were waiting for someone to pile on to once I voted for you and everyone flocked, all at once.

I realize there was a sort of justification for people falling off of Lathum, but the two folks (AE and CR) waiting to the last minute made me want to pull things off and avoid a tie. Hopefully it doesn't screw us too badly.

Well actually you helped us avoid a tie if it's the deadline votes that count, so that could be good.

Chief Rum · 07-06-2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Well, I would look at me for the late vote change if I were you all, but it felt like folks were waiting for someone to pile on to once I voted for you and everyone flocked, all at once.

I realize there was a sort of justification for people falling off of Lathum, but the two folks (AE and CR) waiting to the last minute made me want to pull things off and avoid a tie. Hopefully it doesn't screw us too badly.

In all fairness, I wasn't "waiting". I couldn't even get on this site until about 25 mins ago, and you guys put up five plus pages for me to read.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If so, we live and learn. I wouldn't have minded voting for Lathum either. Neither of you really put up compelling cases for yourselves from what I have seen, although I admit I had to pretty much blow through the last two pages or so of posts.

And CR I'm serious about the defense thing. People criticized certain aspects of me being open yesterday so today I was far more open about those aspects. I tried to defend through actions, because there is so little concreteness for me to defend against as far as I've seen.

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 09:07 PM

BK, you said that you push for reveals but you didn't indicate what you found yesterday. That struck me as inconsistent at the time.

You were more involved, from where I sat, with arguing about Day 1 lynch, well into Day 2 than with talking about free flow of information. We had much better info flow today than we did yesterday, as Cronin, Path, you, and Ardent initially didn't indicate if you found items.

Chief Rum · 07-06-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

That's cause there is NO case for me to defend against. It's just that I don't "feel" right. I mean how am I supposed to defend against a feel?

Me: "No Bob you don't feel that way"
Bob: "Oh thanks. I'll unvote you then"

Well, true enough, lol.

Actually, I really do think your play feels different this game. I don't know what it is. Seems more forceful. You say this is your style of play, but I beg to differ. You're usually more congenial. That's what's raised red flags with me. Since I know you're not like that, it stood out to me.

07-06-2007, 08:48 PM	#601
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Ok based on the voting as it goes now, I gotta trust the group as a whole and go with that: UNVOTE LSG VOTE LATHUM __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

07-06-2007, 08:50 PM	#607
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	What the heck is going on? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-06-2007, 08:52 PM	#610
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I know we have only ten minutes remaining, but what do you all think about the new voting dynamic we have here (and I will explain)? Previously, wolves did not want to vote together, so that they were not associated together. But, in this game, voting together gives folks a better chance to recover items, so it may be worth it to them. I am curious if they realized that by the first vote, because there were quite a few single-person votes (and granted no one had more than an item or two to begin with, so it wasn't as big of a deal). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 08:54 PM	#614
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	What happens in a tie? NM, I'll look it up. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-06-2007, 08:54 PM	#615
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I hate to pull the late switch, but that was pretty shady of hoops. Pretty uncharacteristic play from two of our vets here. This is a tough game. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 08:49 PM	#602
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	unvote hoopsguy vote barkeep I hope this keeps me in the game

07-06-2007, 08:49 PM	#603
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Unvote Lathum Vote hoops I don't think I've ever been a wolf when people feel like my play is "off". Just when I've done some sort of suspicious action.

07-06-2007, 08:49 PM	#604
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	lol, lynch me fine, look to hoops tomorrow.

07-06-2007, 08:50 PM	#605
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	render, a vote for me is a bad idea

07-06-2007, 08:52 PM	#611
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- last post for a while, I'll check back for the results but I am at the inlaws and am going to get dirty looks soon.

07-06-2007, 08:52 PM	#612
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Updated vote count, as of Post #609: Lathum - Pass (533), Path (581), NTN (588), RendeR (601) Hoops - LSG (547), Barkeep (603) Barkeep - Swaggs (587), Hoops (597), Lathum (602)

07-06-2007, 08:53 PM	#613
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Unvote Lathum Vote Barkeep

07-06-2007, 08:54 PM	#616
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	nt, do you have any basis or just playing by feel? You've been fairly quiet with your votes. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 08:55 PM	#617
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Swaggs, if you think I'm trying to double-cross you should vote me. I wasn't - it wouldn't make sense as a bad guy play at this phase in the game even if I was a wolf.

07-06-2007, 08:56 PM	#618
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Updated count, still a few outstanding votes, as of Post #617: Lathum - Pass (533), Path (581), RendeR (601) Hoops - LSG (547), Barkeep (603) Barkeep - Swaggs (587), Hoops (597), Lathum (602), NTN (613)

07-06-2007, 08:57 PM	#619
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I can't find anything on a tie. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-06-2007, 08:58 PM	#621
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	GAH! Hoops: YOU should be the one to face scrutiny when I come up innocent following your 72% theory. Unvote hoops Vote Lathum

07-06-2007, 08:58 PM	#622
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	So, we're waiting on Chief and AE here? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 08:58 PM	#623
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	(if hoops list is right) __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 08:58 PM	#624
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	FTR I have passed an item to Render and path. I fairly trust path. Render seemed as good of a bet as anyone.

07-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#625
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	more playing by feel than any reason Swaggs I did change from Lasthum on the mis info

07-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#626
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	AE, you and Chief still have outstanding votes. I'm guessing that BK will swing his vote to force a tie if push comes to shove, which it will really soon.

07-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#627
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Dude, I so don't know what to do. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#628
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I am back to watching Dr. Who

07-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#630
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I have to vote now, assuming Alan cuts it off at 10 EST, even if he's not here. It' sbetween Lathum and BK. I will stick with my suspicions from yesterday. VOTE BARKEEP

07-06-2007, 08:59 PM	#631
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Gah! Vote Ardent. SUre you could condemn an innocent villager (me for sure) but let's not face the potential double lynch.

07-06-2007, 09:00 PM	#633
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Unvote Barkeep Vote Lathum __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 09:00 PM	#634
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	My best guess: VOTE LATHUM __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-06-2007, 09:00 PM	#635
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Well this was fun with the close vote at the end that I could enjoy rather than having to leave work right when it happened. Too bad you all struck out with me. 100%.

07-06-2007, 09:01 PM	#636
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't like the way that went down... hope I didn't force a tie. And I know it will make me look bad. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 09:01 PM	#637
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Oh wow. Does Alan accept votes on the deadline?

07-06-2007, 09:01 PM	#638
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I have mushrooms and a recipe. I stayed in the library again last night (and discovered the recipe). It's one we already know, and Swaggs already had mushrooms. So I'm pretty much worthless so far. I am willing to pass along the shrooms to someone who can use them. Unless someone wants to pass me peppers or knows of another recipe involving mushrooms.

07-06-2007, 09:02 PM	#640
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	FWIW, this pretty much sucked balls. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-06-2007, 09:02 PM	#641
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Depends on how it is scored: 9:59 PM EST - Barkeep 5-4 10:00 PM EST - Lathum 6-4

07-06-2007, 09:04 PM	#643
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Here's what I don't get: Every game where there are non-standard rules, I push for extra information being divulged. In games where roles have undefined meetings I push for role reveals. In a game like this I push for item reveal. This is a consistent policy, and I've even started threads outside of games about it. Yet every time I get harassed. I really suppose I should just drop the whole damn thing. I hate dying as a suspicious person but it frustrates me since I really feel like it's the best play for the villagers. Especially in a game like this where it'll be Day 4 and it should eb the first day we have things together after basically allowing the wolves three free days to munch.