2009 FOFC Hardcore League - Page 4

sooner333 · 02-24-2009, 02:41 PM

2.2 B.J. Upton

samifan24 · 02-24-2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Ok, let's use this as a sample to help explain the wekkday timing rules. The last pick was made at 6:50pm CT. That means tomorrow morning's pick has to be made by 9am CT as there was more than 1 hour before 10pm tonight.

If sooner333 makes his pick tonight- or any time not on the clock (say, 3am), then CU Tiger will be on the clock until 10am tomorrow morning as it will have been made with under 1 hour left on the clock for the night.

Can you explain this again please? I'm still a little lost.

We're actively drafting during the day between 9 AM and 11 PM. Let's say LastWhiteSoxFanStanding makes his next pick at 10:30 PM tonight. Now cubboyroy1826 is on the board. Let's say he makes his pick at 11:30 PM. He "used" 30 minutes of game time. Now I would expect to have to make my pick by 9 AM since I had the entire overnight period to pick. Is that correct?

Let's say also that cubboyroy1826 did not make a pick in the overnight period. When would his deadline be the following morning? Would it not be 2:30 PM since he had 30 mins from the following night?

Aren't we always going in six hour time increments during the week?

Travis · 02-24-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24

Can you explain this again please? I'm still a little lost.

We're actively drafting during the day between 9 AM and 11 PM. Let's say LastWhiteSoxFanStanding makes his next pick at 10:30 PM tonight. Now cubboyroy1826 is on the board. Let's say he makes his pick at 11:30 PM. He "used" 30 minutes of game time. Now I would expect to have to make my pick by 9 AM since I had the entire overnight period to pick. Is that correct?

Let's say also that cubboyroy1826 did not make a pick in the overnight period. When would his deadline be the following morning? Would it not be 2:30 PM since he had 30 mins from the following night?

Aren't we always going in six hour time increments during the week?

If I'm reading it correctly, essentially it's like this:

Standard 6 hour pick time limit: 8am-10pm CT

If you're on the clock more than an hour prior to the cutoff (10pm), you have 1 hour when the clock starts in the morning to make your pick.

If you're on the clock less than an hour before the cutoff (or if the pick is made during the dead time [10:01pm-7:59am]) then you have 2 hours from when the clock starts in the morning.

So essentially the dead time counts as around 4 hours worth of clock time.

Sort of a check in last thing/first thing setup from what I'm seeing.

PackerFanatic · 02-24-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis

If I'm reading it correctly, essentially it's like this:

Standard 6 hour pick time limit: 8am-10pm CT

If you're on the clock more than an hour prior to the cutoff (10pm), you have 1 hour when the clock starts in the morning to make your pick.

If you're on the clock less than an hour before the cutoff (or if the pick is made during the dead time [10:01pm-7:59am]) then you have 2 hours from when the clock starts in the morning.

So essentially the dead time counts as around 4 hours worth of clock time.

Sort of a check in last thing/first thing setup from what I'm seeing.

Bingo, exactly how I am reading it too. Basically like SI said, you should be able to check in once before deadline, so you wouldn't get your full time the next morning if you were last up the night before (gotta keep it moving along some how), but you still get some time the next morning just in case.

sterlingice · 02-24-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samifan24

Can you explain this again please? I'm still a little lost.

We're actively drafting during the day between 9 AM and 11 PM. Let's say LastWhiteSoxFanStanding makes his next pick at 10:30 PM tonight. Now cubboyroy1826 is on the board. Let's say he makes his pick at 11:30 PM. He "used" 30 minutes of game time. Now I would expect to have to make my pick by 9 AM since I had the entire overnight period to pick. Is that correct?

Let's say also that cubboyroy1826 did not make a pick in the overnight period. When would his deadline be the following morning? Would it not be 2:30 PM since he had 30 mins from the following night?

Aren't we always going in six hour time increments during the week?

It's what both Travis and PackerFanatic said- kindof think of it as 4 hours passing overnight (not entirely, since we round to 9am and 10am). The idea is that you should be able to check either at night or before the time starts in the morning, preferably both. Plus, you'll know about when your pick is coming up, since odds are there aren't going to be a run of 4 or 5 picks at night (it has happened before). But if it does, then you still have at least 2 hours (until 10am CT) in the morning.

One note about your examples- since it's a snake draft, we're still a ways away from your pick (Toddzilla, Travis, MizzouRah are up next). But, let's go with what you had:

1) CBR1826 makes his pick at 10:30pm (CT) and LWSFS makes his at 11:30pm (CT). Since those are after the clock has expired for the day, the next pick isn't due until 10am (CT) as the current picker (which would have been you) didn't have more than an hour the night before. Any time picks are made overnight off the clock is gravy- it's nice to get in some picks, but we aren't going to penalize someone for not being on at 2 in the morning to make picks.

2) If CBR1826 is up and the previous pick was made at, say, 7pm CT and he doesn't notice at all that night. He has until 9am the next morning to make the pick- not until 11am (7-10pm, 8-11am). You don't get a true 6 hours on the overnight because the idea is that everyone is supposed to check at night and in the morning to see whereabouts they are picking.

SI

sterlingice · 02-24-2009, 07:31 PM

Speaking of which:

Toddzilla
Travis
MizzouRah

are up.

That last pick was made almost 5 hours ago so Toddzilla has about an hour to go on the clock. If he doesn't make the pick, Jimmy Rollins is next on the list and will go at 8:41pm CT (9:41pm ET).

SI

Toddzilla · 02-24-2009, 07:51 PM

2.3 Jimmy Rollins, SS, Philadelphia Phillies

sterlingice · 02-24-2009, 10:27 PM

Decided to do some more time-related posts. Toddzilla picked at 7:51pm CT. So, that means Travis has until 9am CT tomorrow morning to pick (Longoria, Soriano are next on the board). If he picks tonight, then it will be after hours and MizzouRah will have until 10am CT tomorrow morning. If many picks are made at night, any subsequent drafter such as Ramzavail, who is after them, or myself, would have until 10am CT tomorrow morning.

SI

Travis · 02-24-2009, 10:53 PM

2.4 Chase Utley 2B

sterlingice · 02-24-2009, 11:00 PM

Dang, I was hoping he would slip down to me since he was lower ranked in Yahoo.

SI

sterlingice · 02-24-2009, 11:01 PM

Yahoo and post updated thru 2.4

SI

Travis · 02-24-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Dang, I was hoping he would slip down to me since he was lower ranked in Yahoo.

SI

heh, yeah, figured there was no way he'd make it back to me so I went with a bit of a reach.

MizzouRah · 02-24-2009, 11:13 PM

2.5 Manny Ramirez

samifan24 · 02-24-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis

heh, yeah, figured there was no way he'd make it back to me so I went with a bit of a reach.

Honestly I think Kinsler in the 1st round was a far bigger reach than Utley in the 2nd.

Ramzavail · 02-25-2009, 09:09 AM

2.6 Johan Santana, SP

Easy pick for me, being a Met fan.

PackerFanatic · 02-25-2009, 09:14 AM

SI - please auto-pick my next two picks. I am not going to be around today and I don't have time to make a list. THanks.

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 09:18 AM

Well, that made my decision easy (Santana, not PF's situation- that patently sucks). I had it down to 2 names and the other just went. So, onto my boy, who I think I've had 3 of the 4 years in this league now...

2.7 Lance Berkman

SI

samifan24 · 02-25-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

SI - please auto-pick my next two picks. I am not going to be around today and I don't have time to make a list. THanks.

Hang in there, PackerFanatic. Hope you get some good news today.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-25-2009, 09:24 AM

Nice pick of Berkman i think he is gonna have a very good season.

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 09:28 AM

Always have been a fan of Berkman back to his days at Rice

SI

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 09:29 AM

PF, sent you a PM with something to consider. Otherwise, I'll gladly make list picks for you. Not like you need the stress of a baseball draft on this day.

Yahoo and thread have been updated.

CleBrownsfan, samifan24, cubboyroy1826- you're up

SI

cubboyroy1826 · 02-25-2009, 09:33 AM

I will be gone from about 11am to 1pm CST at a charity function but i will be ready when i get back.

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 09:59 AM

Got a list from PF so I'll make his picks based on that

SI

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 01:07 PM

We're down to about 2 hours left on CleBrownFan's pick

SI

CleBrownsfan · 02-25-2009, 01:52 PM

Sorry I was on appointments all day.

2.8 Brandon Phillips 2B

samifan24 · 02-25-2009, 02:44 PM

2.9 Carlos Lee LF

cubboyroy1826 · 02-25-2009, 02:58 PM

2.10 Carlos Beltran OF - I cannot believe i am taking two Mets

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 02-25-2009, 03:18 PM

2.11 Prince Fielder 1b

I am not thrilled with this pick. I am picking him based on his upside which basically is code for there is a lot of room for improvement. Nobody describes Albert Pujols as having upside. He is just good.

Anyway I read an article saying Prince is less fat this year. Hopefully, that makes him hungrier at the dish.

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 03:20 PM

LWSFS is up next and then PackerFanatic's 2 picks (which I have a list- tho if he wants to make the picks himself, just let me know)

SI

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 03:23 PM

Never mind. Ok, here are the next two picks from PackerFanatic's list. They were actually a pair I was considering:

2.12 SP Tim Lincecum
3.1 LF Matt Holliday

Back to LWSFS, CBR, and samifan

SI

PackerFanatic · 02-25-2009, 03:29 PM

Thanks for keeping an eye on this, SI. I am very happy with these two picks - and a little surprised Timmy was still around.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 02-25-2009, 03:46 PM

Carlos Quentin 3.2

I was wrestling with this one...I hope I have not cursed him.

cubboyroy1826 · 02-25-2009, 04:12 PM

3.3 Evan Longoria 3B

Maybe a stretch here.

samifan24 · 02-25-2009, 05:14 PM

I'm going to wait a little bit until I can see the updated draft board and make a couple quick comparisons.

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 05:18 PM

Working on that currently- but had to stop for some stuff on the way home

SI

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 05:22 PM

Yahoo and thread updated

SI

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 08:10 PM

Bump

SI

samifan24 · 02-25-2009, 08:22 PM

3.4 Alfonso Soriano - LF

sterlingice · 02-25-2009, 11:20 PM

CleBrownsfan's pick due by 9am CT tomorrow morning. CC Sabathia is next on the list, FYI.

Then I'm up, followed by Ramzavail and MizzouRah

SI

CleBrownsfan · 02-26-2009, 06:29 AM

3.5 Ichiro Suzuki CF, RF

PackerFanatic · 02-26-2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

3.3 Evan Longoria 3B

Maybe a stretch here.

I almost took him with my two picks - I think he will have a solid year.

sterlingice · 02-26-2009, 07:47 AM

3.6 Jason Bay, OF

SI

sterlingice · 02-26-2009, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I almost took him with my two picks - I think he will have a solid year.

Most sites have his average draft position higher than he was taken here. I think people get overly optimistic with the shiny new toy and he runs a serious risk of sophomore slump with a high strikeout rate. But his ceiling is really high.

SI

sterlingice · 02-26-2009, 07:56 AM

Yahoo and thread updated thru 3.6

Ramzavail
Then MizzouRah
Then Travis

SI

samifan24 · 02-26-2009, 08:12 AM

It seems that many in our league are grabbing "their guys" or guys they think will do better than many projections and I really like that about our league. I'm glad many are taking some chances, they usually pay off and they always make for a more interesting draft. There's one guy I almost took over Soriano and it will be interesting to see the parallels between the guys we did draft and the guys we wanted to draft.

sterlingice · 02-26-2009, 08:25 AM

I think you see that a lot in leagues where people are fairly knowledgeable. Hell, it's not as if the experts agree on everything and we all have blind spots, too.

For my drafting, I have 3 different ranking lists printed out like a checklist that I'm going down with each pick so I see if there are any outliers that have dropped a lot (Soriano dropped a lot in this league, for instance, relative to lists). Then, before making a pick, I have it narrowed down to a couple of guys in my mind and I go at comparing them various places- projections, previous stats, etc. And there's always gut feel involved. I think lists are also need to be adjusted for this league as, for instance, SBs and SVs are only 1 of 7 category now rather than 1 of 5 so they aren't as valuable as they would be in a traditional 5x5 league.

SI

MizzouRah · 02-26-2009, 08:42 AM

I took a chance on Manny.. now LA sign his ass today!

Ramzavail · 02-26-2009, 09:34 AM

3.7 CC Sabathia, SP, NYY

cubboyroy1826 · 02-26-2009, 10:58 AM

Well someone has a great start to their pitching staff.

CleBrownsfan · 02-26-2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Well someone has a great start to their pitching staff.

I tried this strategy one year & I didn't do to well...

02-24-2009, 07:31 PM	#156
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Speaking of which: Toddzilla Travis MizzouRah are up. That last pick was made almost 5 hours ago so Toddzilla has about an hour to go on the clock. If he doesn't make the pick, Jimmy Rollins is next on the list and will go at 8:41pm CT (9:41pm ET). SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-24-2009, 10:27 PM	#158
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Decided to do some more time-related posts. Toddzilla picked at 7:51pm CT. So, that means Travis has until 9am CT tomorrow morning to pick (Longoria, Soriano are next on the board). If he picks tonight, then it will be after hours and MizzouRah will have until 10am CT tomorrow morning. If many picks are made at night, any subsequent drafter such as Ramzavail, who is after them, or myself, would have until 10am CT tomorrow morning. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-24-2009, 10:53 PM	#159
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	2.4 Chase Utley 2B __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

02-24-2009, 11:00 PM	#160
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Dang, I was hoping he would slip down to me since he was lower ranked in Yahoo. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-24-2009, 11:01 PM	#161
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and post updated thru 2.4 SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-24-2009, 02:41 PM	#151
sooner333 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Norman, OK	2.2 B.J. Upton

02-24-2009, 07:51 PM	#157
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	2.3 Jimmy Rollins, SS, Philadelphia Phillies

02-24-2009, 11:13 PM	#163
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	2.5 Manny Ramirez

02-25-2009, 09:09 AM	#165
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	2.6 Johan Santana, SP Easy pick for me, being a Met fan.

02-25-2009, 09:14 AM	#166
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	SI - please auto-pick my next two picks. I am not going to be around today and I don't have time to make a list. THanks. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

02-25-2009, 09:18 AM	#167
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Well, that made my decision easy (Santana, not PF's situation- that patently sucks). I had it down to 2 names and the other just went. So, onto my boy, who I think I've had 3 of the 4 years in this league now... 2.7 Lance Berkman SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 02-25-2009 at 09:22 AM.

02-25-2009, 09:24 AM	#169
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Nice pick of Berkman i think he is gonna have a very good season.

02-25-2009, 09:28 AM	#170
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Always have been a fan of Berkman back to his days at Rice SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 09:29 AM	#171
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	PF, sent you a PM with something to consider. Otherwise, I'll gladly make list picks for you. Not like you need the stress of a baseball draft on this day. Yahoo and thread have been updated. CleBrownsfan, samifan24, cubboyroy1826- you're up SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 09:33 AM	#172
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	I will be gone from about 11am to 1pm CST at a charity function but i will be ready when i get back.

02-25-2009, 09:59 AM	#173
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Got a list from PF so I'll make his picks based on that SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 01:07 PM	#174
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	We're down to about 2 hours left on CleBrownFan's pick SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 01:52 PM	#175
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	Sorry I was on appointments all day. 2.8 Brandon Phillips 2B __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders

02-25-2009, 02:44 PM	#176
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	2.9 Carlos Lee LF __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-25-2009, 02:58 PM	#177
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	2.10 Carlos Beltran OF - I cannot believe i am taking two Mets

02-25-2009, 03:18 PM	#178
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	2.11 Prince Fielder 1b I am not thrilled with this pick. I am picking him based on his upside which basically is code for there is a lot of room for improvement. Nobody describes Albert Pujols as having upside. He is just good. Anyway I read an article saying Prince is less fat this year. Hopefully, that makes him hungrier at the dish.

02-25-2009, 03:20 PM	#179
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	LWSFS is up next and then PackerFanatic's 2 picks (which I have a list- tho if he wants to make the picks himself, just let me know) SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 03:23 PM	#180
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Never mind. Ok, here are the next two picks from PackerFanatic's list. They were actually a pair I was considering: 2.12 SP Tim Lincecum 3.1 LF Matt Holliday Back to LWSFS, CBR, and samifan SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 03:29 PM	#181
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Thanks for keeping an eye on this, SI. I am very happy with these two picks - and a little surprised Timmy was still around. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

02-25-2009, 03:46 PM	#182
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	Carlos Quentin 3.2 I was wrestling with this one...I hope I have not cursed him.

02-25-2009, 04:12 PM	#183
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	3.3 Evan Longoria 3B Maybe a stretch here.

02-25-2009, 05:14 PM	#184
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I'm going to wait a little bit until I can see the updated draft board and make a couple quick comparisons. __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-25-2009, 05:18 PM	#185
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Working on that currently- but had to stop for some stuff on the way home SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 05:22 PM	#186
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and thread updated SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 08:10 PM	#187
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Bump SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-25-2009, 08:22 PM	#188
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	3.4 Alfonso Soriano - LF __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

02-25-2009, 11:20 PM	#189
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	CleBrownsfan's pick due by 9am CT tomorrow morning. CC Sabathia is next on the list, FYI. Then I'm up, followed by Ramzavail and MizzouRah SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-26-2009, 06:29 AM	#190
CleBrownsfan Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: C-Town	3.5 Ichiro Suzuki CF, RF __________________ *XBox Gamertag:* Pronk32 FOOL-X - Cleveland Naps FOOL - Cleveland Cyclones SLOP - Cuyahoga Spiders Last edited by CleBrownsfan : 02-26-2009 at 06:29 AM.

02-26-2009, 07:47 AM	#192
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	3.6 Jason Bay, OF SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

02-26-2009, 07:56 AM	#194
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Yahoo and thread updated thru 3.6 Ramzavail Then MizzouRah Then Travis SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"