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Old 04-27-2009, 08:08 AM   #351
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You know, I really think Carcillo is getting a raw deal in all of this. People want to blame him for turning the game around. But what did he do? He fought, he knocked the crap out of the other guy, and the crowd was going insane. Where's the problem here?

People say that Talbot fired up his team by even being willing to go. Well, wouldn't he have accomplished the same by challenging Carcillo and being turned down? And he wouldn't have had his face tenderized in the process.

Sometimes a fight turns a whole game around. And sometimes, it just happens to occur right before something else does.

I agree 100%. It isn't his fault his team thought they had the game won and laid down. This game was the Flyers season in a nut shell. Play good for 30 minutes, and then play terrible for the other 30. Plus they pass the puck worse than a Pee Wee hockey team.

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I agree with Detox that it will be Pittsburgh in 6

The Flyers are so inconsistent and rarely play 60 minutes strong. That is why they will lose. They are a much better team than last year but do not play with the intensity that last year's team did. The Pens are good, but beatable. But their pressing system will cause the Flyers to turn the puck over which will lead to chances.

My prediction of the series (in the other thread) was completely accurate. They didn't show up for Game 1...Games 2 through 6 were all very close, but lapses on the ice and in their head led to their downfall. As much as people want to blame Biron for this...he was not the problem.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:30 AM   #352
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So, will I actually get to see the Sharks game tonight on Versus? Haven't been able to watch one yet thanks to the ridiculous TV contract. I guess I need to move to San Jose to remedy the problem.

Huh? I've seen pretty much every game of that series on Versus so far. Is Versus doing a regional thing?

Tonight, they will join that game in progress after the Calgary/Chicago game.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:35 AM   #353
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Actually it has been the opposite for the Sharks/Ducks series...the president of Versus was on NHL Live last week and said that series will be shown everywhere in the country. It won't be blacked out even in San Jose or Anaheim for the local broadcast.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:16 AM   #354
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Before the playoffs started, someone handed me a schedule with the TV networks listed. SJ/ANA was one of the series that had every game on Versus. The only other series to get all 7 scheduled for Versus was VAN/STL. Besides those two, PIT/PHI was the only other series to have all 7 scheduled for national US coverage, although two of those games were on NBC.

So anyway, I'm not sure why some parts of the US would not get all of the SJ/ANA games on Versus, especially areas without an NHL team.
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:22 AM   #355
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Before the playoffs started, someone handed me a schedule with the TV networks listed. SJ/ANA was one of the series that had every game on Versus. The only other series to get all 7 scheduled for Versus was VAN/STL. Besides those two, PIT/PHI was the only other series to have all 7 scheduled for national US coverage, although two of those games were on NBC.

So anyway, I'm not sure why some parts of the US would not get all of the SJ/ANA games on Versus, especially areas without an NHL team.

It's likely my screw-up. When you have kids and the games start late here in KC, you're not always thinking straight when you're looking for the game on the schedule.

I'll definitely catch the game tonight. Should be fun to watch. Hopefully the Sharks can pull out a win.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:57 PM   #356
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Six games for Brashear. One for the pre-game shove on Orr and five for the hit on Betts.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:09 PM   #357
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:36 PM   #358
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Perfectly fair to trade our #1 PKer for a thug who plays 5 minutes a game.

It doesn't really matter if Betts is there or not when 75% of the team is just skating around aimlessly for 45 seconds at a time.
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Old 04-27-2009, 05:52 PM   #359
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Am I the only one who thinks it was really poor planning on the NHL's part to have the schedule so 2 NY area teams are playing a game 7 on the same night?
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:02 PM   #360
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Not when one of them is the Devils .
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:02 PM   #361
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I agree 100%. It isn't his fault his team thought they had the game won and laid down. This game was the Flyers season in a nut shell. Play good for 30 minutes, and then play terrible for the other 30. Plus they pass the puck worse than a Pee Wee hockey team.



My prediction of the series (in the other thread) was completely accurate. They didn't show up for Game 1...Games 2 through 6 were all very close, but lapses on the ice and in their head led to their downfall. As much as people want to blame Biron for this...he was not the problem.

Agree here, plenty more candidates than Biron.

Reading Timonen has a concussion. Was this something prior to the series? Kunitz hit?
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:27 PM   #362
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I have a feeling a few guys were hurt. I don't think Jones ever fully healed from hip surgery...I think Carter had a hurt wrist and I bet Kuntiz's hit gave Timmo a concussion.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:16 PM   #363
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%^$^%$@ Hold a bleepin lead for once!

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Old 04-28-2009, 12:15 AM   #364
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Again, Sharks get 36 shots on Hiller and maybe had 2 real "should have scored" moments. At the end of the day, Ducks are a playoff team and the Sharks just aren't. Other than game 5, pretty much all of their "good" players except Boyle laid an egg the entire series, and even Boyle took some really bad penalties tonight.

Good series, Sharks fans. Ducks were incredibly lucky in the first 2 games and this easily could have been 4-1 after game 5 but we did play 2 great games at home. Bring on the Wings...
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:50 AM   #365
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Old 04-28-2009, 03:27 AM   #366
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #367
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:55 AM   #368
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:00 AM   #369
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:02 AM   #370
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Yeah...I'm glad the Blackhawks won...they are a fun team to watch.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:50 AM   #371
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The Wings-Ducks should be quite a series. The Ducks are really the last team I wanted to see the Wings face, but so be it. Their top line is playing as well as any line in hockey right now. They are incredibly solid along the blueline and Hiller, their only potential question mark going into the playoffs, was perhaps the best goalie in any first round series. The Ducks have plenty of experience and should provide a very difficult challenge. The Wings have more depth at forward, the defensive corps are pretty comparable, and the Ducks have the edge in goaltending.

Hopefully Corey Perry will be rightly suspended for at least 4 games for his elbow to the head last night. It was every bit as vicious as Brashear's hit on Betts, the only difference was that Cheechoo (if it was Cheechoo) was lucky enough not to get injured. If he had gone down and was knocked out of the game, there would be no question that a multi-game suspension would be in Perry's future. Since the NHL takes a weird approach to these things, given Cheechoo came away pretty much unscathed means that Perry will likely not be suspended or, if so, it may only be for one game.

Still, if the NHL wants to be serious about getting rid of shots to the head, a message should be sent. 4-5 games would be appropriate based on the Brashear precedent in these playoffs. Let us not forget that Perry is a recidvist and was suspended for 4 games earlier this season for an elbow to the head.

Where's Collin Campbell's number or e-mail address? I would like to submit a brief on this for his consideration.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:55 AM   #372
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Win or lose, I want to see the Rangers play with some passion tonight.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:02 AM   #373
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I have a weird feeling about tonight's Caps/Rangers game. I don't know anybody who's picking the Rangers, anywhere. They're already dead and buried. Caps fans are promising the blow the roof off. Everyone's already trying to figure out if we should root for Carolina and an Ovie/Crosby matchup in round two, or be patient and wait for round three.

I know one thing about sports, it's that when everyone agrees on something then everyone is wrong. I'm just getting that "Henrik Lundqvist makes 43 saves in a shocking shutout win" vibe...
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:06 AM   #374
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This is the 2nd year in a row that the Caps have come back from a 3 games to 1 deficit in round one...and the second year in a row game 7 will be at home. Hopefully this year they reverse the outcome.

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Old 04-28-2009, 10:11 AM   #375
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If the Rangers can get a lead, they've got a chance. If they fall behind at any point, I think they're done. They just don't have the offense to catch up without inevitably making a mistake and giving up another goal.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:35 AM   #376
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Rangers can win. They have to take the game to Washington for once. They've played so defensivley the last two games worrying about not making mistakes that they've made them in droves. The Caps D is still very weak, and if you let some of the Rangers speedy forwards pressure them they're going to make mistakes. But as long as the Rangers keep waiting back for Ovechkin to do something they have no chance.

That said, I say Rangers 3-1 tonight.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:38 AM   #377
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The Wings-Ducks should be quite a series. The Ducks are really the last team I wanted to see the Wings face, but so be it. Their top line is playing as well as any line in hockey right now. They are incredibly solid along the blueline and Hiller, their only potential question mark going into the playoffs, was perhaps the best goalie in any first round series. The Ducks have plenty of experience and should provide a very difficult challenge. The Wings have more depth at forward, the defensive corps are pretty comparable, and the Ducks have the edge in goaltending.

Hopefully Corey Perry will be rightly suspended for at least 4 games for his elbow to the head last night. It was every bit as vicious as Brashear's hit on Betts, the only difference was that Cheechoo (if it was Cheechoo) was lucky enough not to get injured. If he had gone down and was knocked out of the game, there would be no question that a multi-game suspension would be in Perry's future. Since the NHL takes a weird approach to these things, given Cheechoo came away pretty much unscathed means that Perry will
likely not be suspended or, if so, it may only be for one game.

Still, if the NHL wants to be serious about getting rid of shots to the head, a message should be sent. 4-5 games would be appropriate based on the Brashear precedent in these playoffs. Let us not forget that Perry is a recidvist and was suspended for 4 games earlier this season for an elbow to the head.

Where's Collin Campbell's number or e-mail address? I would like to submit a brief on this for his consideration.

I think it'll come down to Ozzy's health. If he is 100%, Wings in 6, and if not, Ducks in 6 or 7. I think Anaheim is going to be beat up after a physical series, but the difference is, and Ken Hitchcock said this the other day, Detroit is big. People forget how big Hossa, Franzen, Holmstrom, etc are. They can bang, but they don't have those spectacular hits. However it's huge chore getting them out of the front of the net.

They just have to keep wearing down Anaheim's D, and this series I expect Dats to explode.

But if Ozzy isn't healthy and can't make the routine side to side saves then we're in trouble.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:38 AM   #378
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As a Bruins fan, I want the Rangers to knock off Washington. If that doesn't happen, I'm hoping Carolina can upset the Devils although I doubt that will happen. I do not want to face Pittsburgh.
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:59 AM   #379
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:02 AM   #380
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If the game goes to overtime and Sean Avery scores the winner, I will lie down in traffic.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:21 AM   #381
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:25 AM   #382
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:33 AM   #383
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As a Bruins fan, I want the Rangers to knock off Washington. If that doesn't happen, I'm hoping Carolina can upset the Devils although I doubt that will happen. I do not want to face Pittsburgh.

as a hockey fan, I would LOVE to see a Boston - Pittsburgh series.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:35 AM   #384
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as a hockey fan, I would LOVE to see a Boston - Pittsburgh series.

As a hockey fan, I think an ideal scenario would be a 2nd round Washington-Pittsburgh match up and then a Boston-Pitt conference finals.

That would be some great hockey.
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Old 04-28-2009, 12:20 PM   #385
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My buddy said the only chance we have to win is if someone unexpected steps up and buries a couple goals. He suggested Zherdev. I thought it was a good fit, but unfortunately he hasn't even been able to cross the blue line all series. What a waste that kid is.

No shot if the Caps score first. Avery needs to be on the PP from the start camped out in front of the net. God help Ovechkin/Semin if this turns into a blowout -- I think that's when the Betts payback takes place.
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My buddy said the only chance we have to win is if someone unexpected steps up and buries a couple goals. He suggested Zherdev. I thought it was a good fit, but unfortunately he hasn't even been able to cross the blue line all series. What a waste that kid is.

No shot if the Caps score first. Avery needs to be on the PP from the start camped out in front of the net. God help Ovechkin/Semin if this turns into a blowout -- I think that's when the Betts payback takes place.

Zherdev had an abysmal game on Sunday. His give away that led to the first goal was attrocious. He was afraid of getting hit so he just gave the puck right up.

He had that glorious chance on the backhand that he totally flubbed as well. He had a wide open net and instead of driving to the net and burrying it, he sort of angled away and flipped a weak shot that totally missed.
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The Rangers' only big-name guy who has showed up this series is Lundqvist. Gomez, Antropov, Zherdev, Redden, Drury (I suppose he's hurting), and Naslund have all been terrible.

I really think a guy like Nigel Dawes would have made a big difference in a series like this too. I don't think Morris has been bad this series (although I haven't noticed him being particularly good either), but Kalinin + Dawes (and Prucha) would have been better.
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:21 PM   #388
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The Rangers' only big-name guy who has showed up this series is Lundqvist. Gomez, Antropov, Zherdev, Redden, Drury (I suppose he's hurting), and Naslund have all been terrible.

I really think a guy like Nigel Dawes would have made a big difference in a series like this too. I don't think Morris has been bad this series (although I haven't noticed him being particularly good either), but Kalinin + Dawes (and Prucha) would have been better.

I'll agree on everyone but Antropov. At least he's been skating hard and has been physical. But besides him, give me Callahan and Dubinsky and they can get rid of the rest. Sad to say with how much these guys are getting paid.

I'm sure Dawes wouldn't have hurt, but he still wouldn't have been enough. It still comes down to the talent disparity, as this series really would have been over after 4 games if Lundqvist wasn't playing at a level that was even above where he's been in the past. But that doesn't matter...we're talking about one game now and any team can be beat in one game, and like others have said, at least we have the goalie advantage.
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:54 PM   #390
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I would love to see Avery pummeled. Devils seem to find ways to lose these kind of games, and they looked awful in game 6. That being said, let's go Brodeur!
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:59 PM   #393
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:57 PM   #394
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Terrible call to give the 'Canes a 5-3 here. How do you give a team a 5-3 on such a boarderline call in this spot?
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:10 PM   #396
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Terrible call to give the 'Canes a 5-3 here. How do you give a team a 5-3 on such a boarderline call in this spot?

Welcome to playoff officiating.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:11 PM   #397
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Welcome to playoff officiating.

yeah, been watching and playing hockey my whole life.

Still annoying.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:15 PM   #398
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Anymore when players feel the stick in their stomach or any hint on a trip they are falling. I really think there needs to be tougher enforcement on embellishment. Don't give them both penalties...only give the embellisher the penalty.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:16 PM   #399
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Anymore when players feel the stick in their stomach or any hint on a trip they are falling. I really think there needs to be tougher enforcement on embellishment. Don't give them both penalties...only give the embellisher the penalty.

Anything that draws blood should be a penalty. No blood, no pims. Let's stop coddling people.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:21 PM   #400
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WOOOO!!! GO CAPS!!
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