Historical Nation Draft

[larrymcg421]

Round 1

1. Apathetic Lurker - Sun Tzu, Army Chief, China, Pre-20th
2. surtt - Julius Cesar, Leader/Ruler, Italy, pre-20th
3. Abe Sargent - Alexander the Great, Army Chief, Greece, pre-20th
4. Barkeep49 - Adam Smith, Economist, Great Britain, Pre-20th
5. Noop - Oil Fields of Saudi Arabia, Geographical Location, Saudi Arabia, Pre-20th
6. Izulde - Manfred "The Red Baron" von Richthofen, Air Chief, Germany, 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Jesus Christ, Religious Leader, Israel, Pre-20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther King Jr., Civil Rights Activist, USA, 20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Horatio Nelson, Navy Chief, Great Britain, pre-20th century
10. Danny - Muhammad, Religious Leader, Saudi Arabia, pre-20th
11. Galaril - Abraham Lincoln, Leader/Ruler, United States, Pre-20th
12. Lathum - Nelson Mandela, Civil Rights, South Africa, 20th

Round 2

1. Lathum - Leonardo Da Vinci, Artist, Italy, pre-20th
2. Galaril - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Army Chief, United States, 20th
3. Danny - Mahatma Ghandi, Civil Rights Leader, India, 20th
4. ntndeacon - Karl Marx, Economist, Germany, pre-20th
5. DaddyTorgo - John Kenneth Galbraith, Economist, United States, 20th
6. Coffee Warlord - Albert Einstein, Scientist, Germany, 20th
7. Izulde - Jim Brown, Athlete, United States, 20th
8. Noop - King Solomon, Justice Minister, Israel, Pre-20th
9. Barkeep49 - John Glenn, Air Chief, United States, 20th
10. Abe Sargent - Marco Polo, Chief Diplomat, Italy, Pre-20th
11. surtt - Napoleon Bonaparte, Army Chief, France, pre-20th
12. Apathetic Lurker - Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th

Round 3

1. Apathetic Lurker - Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th
2. surtt - Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
3. Abe Sargent - Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th
4. Barkeep49 - Ghengis Khan, Millitary Leader, Mongolia, Pre-20th
5. Noop - Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th
6. Izulde - Otto von Bismarck, Chief Diplomat, Germany, Pre-20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - William Shakespeare, Artist, England, Pre 20th
8. DaddyTorgo - John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Theodore Roosevelt, Chief Diplomat, United States, 20th century
10. Danny - Aristotle, Scientist, Greece, Pre-20th
11. Galaril - Ben Franklin, Scientist - America, Pre 20th Century
12. Lathum - John Paul Jones, Naval Chief, United States, Pre-20th century

Round 4

1. Lathum - William Wallace, Army Chief, Great Britain, Pre-20th
2. Galaril - John Stuart Mills, Civil Rights Leader, Great Britain, Pre-20th
3. Danny - Adolph Hitler, Leader/Ruler - Germany, 20th century
4. ntndeacon - Tobias Michael Carel Asser, Justice Minister, The Netherlands, 20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Isaac Newton, Scientist, United Kingdom, Pre-20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Charlemagne, Leader/Ruler, France, Pre-20th
7. Izulde - Hammurabi, Justice Minister, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - Pele, Athlete, Brazil, 20th Century
9. Barkeep49 - Moses, Justice Minister, Egypt, Pre-20th
10. Abe Sargent - Mother Theresa, Civil Rights Activist, Albania, 20th
11. surtt - Louis Pasteur, Scientist, France, Pre-20th
12. Apathetic Lurker - Ibn Khaldoun, Economist, Tunisia, Pre-20th century

Round 5

1. Apathetic Lurker - Simon Bolivar, Civil Rights, Venezuela, Pre-20th Century
2. surtt - Sir Winston Churchill, Diplomat, UK, Post-20
3. Abe Sargent - Tōgō Heihachirō, Japan, Navy Chief, 20th
4. Barkeep49 - Marie Curie, Poland, Scientist, 20th Century
5. Noop - King David, Leader, Israel, Pre-20th Century
6. Izulde - Confucius, Civil Rights Leader, China, Pre-20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Erwin Rommel, Army Leader, Germany, Post 20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Mordechai Hod, Air Force Leader, Israel, 20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Attilla the Hun, Army Chief, Hungary, pre-20th century
10. Danny - Pope John Paul II, Chief Diplomat, Poland, 20th century
11. Galaril - Darius the Great, Iran , Justice Minister, Pre 20th century
12. Lathum - Great Wall of China, Manmade structure, China, pre-20th

Round 6

1. Lathum - Yuri Gagarin, Air Chief, Russia, 20th
2. Galaril - Pablo Picasso, Artist, Spain 20th
3. Danny - Alfred Hitchcock, Artist, United States, 20th century
4. ntndeacon - Alberto Santos, Dumont, Air Chief, Brazil, 20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century
7. Izulde - Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - James Joyce, Artist, Ireland, 20th Century
9. Barkeep49 - Tallyrand, Diplomat, France, Pre-20th Century
10. Abe Sargent - John Locke, Justice Minister, UK, Pre20th
11. surtt - Lech Walesa, Civil Rights Activist, Poland, 20th Century
12. Apathetic Lurker - En Hedu' Anna, Artist, Iraq, pre-20th century

Round 7

1. Apathetic Lurker - Ibn al-haytham, Scientist, Iraq, Pre-20th century
2. surtt - Billy Bishop, Air Chief, Canada, 20th Century
3. Abe Sargent - Sergey Korolyov, Air Chief, Ukraine, 20th
4. Barkeep49 - Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Civil Rights Activist, Burma, 20th Century
5. Noop - Saladin, Army Chief, Egypt, Pre-20th
6. Izulde - Mt. Everest, Geographic Location, China, 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Socrates, Justice Minister, Greece, Pre-20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Klemens Wenzel, Prince von Metternich, Chief Diplomat Austria, Pre-20th Century
9. ntndeacon - Great Pryamid at Giza-Man Made Structure, Egypt, pre 20th century
10. Danny - Isoroku Yamamoto, Air Chief, Japan, 20th
11. Galaril - Mikhail Gorbachev, Diplomat, Russia, 20th
12. Lathum - Mao Zedung, Leader/Ruler, China, 20th

Round 8

1. Lathum - Roger Bannister, Athlete, United Kingdom, 20th
2. Galaril - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th
3. Danny - Wayne Gretzky, Athlete, Canada, Post 20th century
4. ntndeacon - Diego Maradona-Athlete-Argentina-20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther, Religious Leader, Germany, Pre-20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Yasser Arafat, Diplomat, Egypt, 20th
7. Izulde - Rodrigo "El Cid" Diaz de Vivar - Military Chief - Spain - Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - Saint Augustine - Religious Leader - Algeria- Pre20th Century
9. Barkeep - Yi Sun-sin Naval Chief Korea Pre-20th
10. Abe - Sigmund Freud, Scientist, Austria, 20th
11. Surtt - Vincent van Gogh, Artist, Netherlands, Pre-20th
12. Apathetic Lurker - Karl Doenitz, Naval Chief, Germany 20th

Round 9

1. Apathetic Lurker - British Isles, Geographic Location, UK, 20th
2. Surtt - Panama Canal, Man made Structure, Panama, Post-20th
3. Abe - Miyamoto Musashi, Athelete, Japan, Pre20th
4. Barkeep - Sulieman the Magnificent Turkey Ruler/Leader Pre-20th Century
5. Noop - Xiao Gang - Economist - China - 20th Century
6. Izulde - Satoru Iwata - Economist - Japan - 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Themistocles, Naval Chief, Greece, Pre-20th century
9. ntndeacon - Niels Bohr-Scientist-Denmark-20th century
10. Danny - Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century
11. Galaril - Peter I The Great, Naval Commander-Russia, pre-20th century
12. Lathum - Great Barrier Reef, Geographical Location, Australia- 20th Century

Round 10

1. Lathum - Religous Leader- Joseph Smith- Pre 20th Century, USA?
2. Galaril - Saint Patrick, Religious Leader - Ireland(UK), Pre-20th century
3. Danny - Michiel de Ruyter, Naval Commander - Netherlands, Pre-20th Century
4. ntndeacon - Chi'ang Kai-shek --- Leader/Ruler---Taiwan---20th Century
5. DaddyTorgo - Jawaharlal Nehru, Ruler/Leader, India, 20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - Henri Dunant, Civil Rights Leader, Switzerland, 20th Century
7. Izulde - Queen Isabella - Ruler/Leader - Spain - Pre-20th Century
8. Noop - Alonso Pérez de Guzmán - Navy Chief - Spain - pre 20th
9. Barkeep - Nadia Elena Comăneci Romania Athlete 20th Century
10. Abe - Sydney Opera House, Manmade Structure, Australia, 20th
11. Surtt - Ferdinand Magellan, Navy Chief, Portugal, Pre-20
12. Apathetic Lurker - Pierre Fredy (Baron de Coubertin), Athlete, France, pre 20th

Round 11

1. Apathetic Lurker - Zarathustra, Religious Leader, Iran, pre 20th
2. Surtt - Charles Ponzi, Economist, Italy, Post-20
3. Abe - Michelangelo, artist, Vatican, pre-20th
4. Barkeep - Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century
5. Noop - Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th
6. Izulde - Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th
9. ntndeacon - Guru Nanak Dev--Religious leader--Pakistan--pre 20th century
10. Danny - Amazon Rain Forest, Geographical Location - Brazil, Pre 20th Century
11. Galaril - Joseph Schumpeter,Economist, Moria (Czech Rep.)-Post 20th
12. Lathum - Bono, Chief Diplomat, Ireland, 20th Century

Round 12

1. Lathum - Chanakya, Economist, India, pre-20th
2. Galaril - Captain Rene Fronck, Air Chief, France, 20th
3. Danny - The Colosseum, Man Made Structure - Italy, Pre 20th Century
4. ntndeacon - Andrei Sakarov, Civil Rights Activist, Russia, 20th Century
5. DaddyTorgo - Hannibal Barca, Army Chief, Tunisia, Pre-20th century
6. Coffee Warlord - The Colossus, Manmade Structure, Greece, Pre-20th
7. Izulde - Vladimir Nabokov - Artist - Russia - 20th Century
8. Noop - Internet - Man made Structure - England - 20th Century
9. Barkeep - American Heartland, Geographical Locaion, USA, 20th Century
10. Abe - The Nile, Geographical Location, Egypt, 20th
11. Surtt - Justinian I, Justice Minister, Turkey, Pre-20
12. Apathetic Lurker - Carl Gustaf Mannerheim, Chief Diplomat,

Round 13

1. Apathetic Lurker - Sputnik, Manmade Object, Russia, 20th
2. Surtt - Wine producing regions of France, Geographical Location, France, 20th
3. Abe - Ramses II (aka Ramses the Great aka Ozymandias), Ruler/Leader, Egypt, Pre20th
4. Barkeep - Desmond Tutu, Religious Leader, South Africa, 20th
5. Noop - Pierre Elliott Trudeau - Cheif Diplomat - Canada - 20th
6. Izulde - Paris Metro - Manmade Structure - France - 20th Century
7. Coffee Warlord - Mario Andretti - Athlete, Italy, 20th
8. DaddyTorgo - Itaipu Dam, Man-made object, Paraguay, 20th Century
9. ntndeacon - The Andes-Geographical Location-Bolivia-pre 20th century
10. Danny - Jean-Jaques Rousseau, Justice Minister - France, Pre 20th century
11. Galaril - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Athelete - Austria, 20th century
12. Lathum - Bruno Tonioli- Justice minister- Italy- 20th century

Round 14

1. Lathum - Facundo Bacardi- Scientist- Cuba- Pre 20th
2. Galaril - Rocky Mountains-Geographic location (Canada)- 20th Century
3. Danny - Tamerlane (Timur), Army Commander - Uzbekistan, Pre 20th Century
4. ntndeacon - Johann Sebastian Bach-Artist-Germany-pre 20th century
5. DaddyTorgo - Alexander "The Russian Bear" Karelin, Athlete, Russia, 20th Century
6. Coffee Warlord - The Swiss Alps, Geographic Location, Swizterland, Pre-20t
7. Izulde - Gerald Gardner - Religious Figure - England - 20th Century
8. Noop - Taylor Wang - Air Chief - China - 20th Century
9. Barkeep - Large Hardon Collider Switzerland 20th Century Manmade Structure
10. Abe - Abe Sargent - Sir Arthur Lewis, Economist, St. Lucia, 20th
11. Surtt - Vinko Bogataj, Athlete, Slovenia, Post-20
12. Apathetic Lurker -


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[Danny]

Leader/Ruler:

1.2 surtt - Julius Cesar, Leader/Ruler, Italy, pre-20th
1.11 Galaril - Abraham Lincoln, Leader/Ruler, United States, Pre-20th
2.12 Apathetic Lurker - Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th
4.3 Danny - Adolph Hitler, Leader/Ruler, Germany, 20th century
4.6 Coffee Warlord - Charlemagne, Leader/Ruler, France, Pre-20th
5.5 Noop - King David, Leader, Israel, Pre-20th Century
7.12 Lathum - Mao Zedung, Leader/Ruler, China, 20th
9.4 Barkeep - Sulieman the Magnificent Turkey Ruler/Leader Pre-20th
10.4 ntndeacon - Chi'ang Kai-shek, Leader/Ruler, Taiwan, 20th Century
10.5 DaddyTorgo - Jawaharlal Nehru, Ruler/Leader, India, 20th Century
10.7 Izulde - Queen Isabella - Ruler/Leader - Spain - Pre-20th Century

Chief Diplomat:

2.10 Abe Sargent - Marco Polo, Chief Diplomat, Italy, Pre-20th
3.6 Izulde - Otto von Bismarck, Chief Diplomat, Germany, Pre-20th
3.9 ntndeacon - Theodore Roosevelt, Chief Diplomat, United States, 20th century
5.2 surtt - Sir Winston Churchill, Diplomat, UK, Post-20
5.10 Danny - Pope John Paul II, Chief Diplomat, Poland, 20th century
6.9 Barkeep49 - Tallyrand, Diplomat, France, Pre-20th Century
7.8 DaddyTorgo - Klemens Wenzel, Prince von Metternich, Chief Diplomat Austria, Pre-20th Century
7.11 Galaril - Mikhail Gorbachev, Diplomat, Russia, 20th
8.6 Coffee Warlord - Yasser Arafat, Diplomat, Egypt, 20th
11.12 Lathum - Bono, Chief Diplomat, Ireland, 20th Century

Army Chief:

1.1 Apathetic Lurker - Sun Tzu, Army Chief, China, Pre-20th
1.3 Abe Sargent - Alexander the Great, Army Chief, Greece, pre-20th
2.2 Galaril - Dwight D. Eisenhower, Army Chief, United States, 20th
2.11 surtt - Napoleon Bonaparte, Army Chief, France, pre-20th
3.4 Barkeep49 - Ghengis Khan, Army Chief, Mongolia, Pre-20th
4.1 Lathum - William Wallace, Army Chief, Great Britain, Pre-20th
5.7 Coffee Warlord - Erwin Rommel, Army Leader, Germany, Post 20th
5.9 ntndeacon - Attilla the Hun, Army Chief, Hungary, pre-20th century
7.5 Noop - Saladin, Army Chief, Egypt, Pre-20th
8.7 Izulde - Rodrigo "El Cid" Diaz de Vivar - Army Chief - Spain - Pre-20th Century
12.5 - Hannibal Barca, Army Chief, Tunisia (Carthage then), Pre-20th century

Navy Chief: (This category is complete)

1.9 ntndeacon - Horatio Nelson, Navy Chief, Great Britain, pre-20th century
3.12 Lathum - John Paul Jones, Naval Chief, United States, Pre-20th century
5.3 Abe Sargent - Tōgō Heihachirō, Japan, Navy Chief, 20th
8.9 Barkeep - Yi Sun-sin Naval Chief Korea Pre-20th
8.12 Apathetic Lurker - Karl Doenitz, Naval Chief, Germany 20th
9.7 Coffee Warlord - Henry Morgan, Navy Chief, Jamaica, Pre-20th
9.8 DaddyTorgo - Themistocles, Naval Chief, Greece, Pre-20th century
9.11 Galaril - Peter I The Great, Naval Commander-Russia, pre-20th century
10.3 Danny - Michiel de Ruyter, Naval Commander - Netherlands, Pre-20th Century
10.8 Noop - Alonso Pérez de Guzmán - Navy Chief - Spain - pre 20th
10.11 Surtt - Ferdinand Magellan, Navy Chief, Portugal, Pre-20
11.6 Izulde - Robert de La Salle - Navy Chief - France - Pre-20th Century

Air Chief:

1.6 Izulde - Manfred "The Red Baron" von Richthofen, Air Chief, Germany, 20th Century
2.9 Barkeep49 - John Glenn, Air Chief, United States, 20th
3.1 Apathetic Lurker - Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th
5.8 DaddyTorgo - Mordechai Hod, Air Force Leader, Israel, 20th Century
6.1 Lathum - Yuri Gagarin, Air Chief, Russia, 20th
6.4 ntndeacon - Alberto Santos, Dumont, Air Chief, Brazil, 20th century
6.6 Coffee Warlord - Anthony Fokker, Air Chief, Netherlands, 20th Century
7.2 surtt - Billy Bishop, Air Chief, Canada, 20th Century
7.3 Abe Sargent - Sergey Korolyov, Air Chief, Ukraine, 20th
7.10 Danny - Isoroku Yamamoto, Air Chief, Japan, 20th
12.2 Galaril - Captain Rene Fronck, Air Chief, France, 20th

Justice Minister:

2.8 Noop - King Solomon, Justice Minister, Israel, Pre-20th
3.8 DaddyTorgo - John Marshall, Justice Minister, American, Pre-20th Century
4.4 ntndeacon - Tobias Michael Carel Asser, Justice Minister, The Netherlands, 20th century
4.7 Izulde - Hammurabi, Justice Minister, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
4.9 Barkeep49 - Moses, Justice Minister, Egypt, Pre-20th
5.11 Galaril - Darius the Great, Iran , Justice Minister, Pre 20th century
6.10 Abe Sargent - John Locke, Justice Minister, UK, Pre20th
7.7 Coffee Warlord - Socrates, Justice Minister, Greece, Pre-20th
12.11 Justinian I, Justice Minister, Turkey, Pre-20

Economist:

1.4 Barkeep49 - Adam Smith, Economist, Great Britain, Pre-20th
2.4 ntndeacon - Karl Marx, Economist, Germany, pre-20th
2.5 DaddyTorgo - John Kenneth Galbraith, Economist, United States, 20th
4.12 Apathetic Lurker - Ibn Khaldoun, Economist, Tunisia, Pre-20th century
9.5 Noop - Xiao Gang - Economist - China - 20th Century
9.6 Izulde - Satoru Iwata - Economist - Japan - 20th Century
9.10 Danny - Friedrich Hayek, Economist - Austria, 20th century
11.2 Surtt - Charles Ponzi, Economist, Italy, Post-20
11.7 Coffee Warlord - Carl Menger, Economist, Poland, 20th
11.11 Galaril - Joseph Schumpeter,Economist, Moria (Czech Rep.)-Post 20th
12.1 Lathum - Chanakya, Economist, India, pre-20th

Civil Rights Activist: (Category is done)

1.8 DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther King Jr., Civil Rights Activist, USA, 20th Century
1.12 Lathum - Nelson Mandela, Civil Rights Activist, South Africa, 20th
2.3 Danny - Mahatma Ghandi, Civil Rights Activist, India, 20th
4.2 Galaril - John Stuart Mills, Civil Rights Leader, Great Britain, Pre-20th
4.10 Abe Sargent - Mother Theresa, Civil Rights Activist, Albania, 20th
5.1 Apathetic Lurker - Simon Bolivar, Civil Rights, Venezuela, Pre-20th Century
5.6 Izulde - Confucius, Civil Rights Leader, China, Pre-20th Century
6.11 surtt - Lech Walesa, Civil Rights Activist, Poland, 20th Century
7.4 Barkeep49 - Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Civil Rights Activist, Burma, 20th Century
10.6 Coffee Warlord - Henri Dunant, Civil Rights Leader, Switzerland, 20th Century
11.5 Noop - Harriet Tubman - Civil Rights - Canada - 20th
12.4 ntndeacon - Andrei Sakarov, Civil Rights Activist, Russia, 20th Century


Scientist:

2.6 Coffee Warlord - Albert Einstein, Scientist, Germany, 20th
3.5 Noop - Imhotep, Scientist, Egypt, Pre-20th
3.10 Danny - Aristotle, Scientist, Greece, Pre-20th
3.11 Galaril - Ben Franklin, Scientist - America, Pre 20th Century
4.5 DaddyTorgo - Isaac Newton, Scientist, United Kingdom, Pre-20th Century
4.11 surtt - Louis Pasteur, Scientist, France, Pre-20th
5.4 Barkeep49 - Marie Curie, Poland, Scientist, 20th Century
6.7 Izulde - Galileo Galilei - Scientist - Italy - Pre-20th Century
7.1 Apathetic Lurker - Ibn al-haytham, Scientist, Iraq, Pre-20th century
8.10 Abe - Sigmund Freud, Scientist, Austria, 20th
9.9 ntndeacon - Niels Bohr-Scientist-Denmark-20th century

Artist:

2.1 Lathum - Leonardo Da Vinci, Artist, Italy, pre-20th
3.7 Coffee Warlord - William Shakespeare, Artist, England, Pre 20th
6.2 Galaril - Pablo Picasso, Artist, Spain 20th
6.3 Danny - Alfred Hitchcock, Artist, United States, 20th century
6.8 Noop - James Joyce, Artist, Ireland, 20th Century
6.12 Apathetic Lurker - En Hedu' Anna, Artist, Iraq, pre-20th century
8.11 Surtt - Vincent van Gogh, Artist, Netherlands, Pre-20th
11.3 Abe - Michelangelo, artist, Vatican, pre-20th
11.4 Barkeep - Diego Rivera Artist Mexico 20th Century
11.8 DaddyTorgo - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Artist, Austria, Pre-20th
12.7 Vladimir Nabokov - Artist - Russia - 20th Century


Athlete:

2.7 Izulde - Jim Brown, Athlete, United States, 20th
4.8 Noop - Pele, Athlete, Brazil, 20th Century
8.1 Lathum - Roger Bannister, Athlete, United Kingdom, 20th
8.3 Danny - Wayne Gretzky, Athlete, Canada, Post 20th century
8.4 ntndeacon - Diego Maradona-Athlete-Argentina-20th century
9.3 Abe - Miyamoto Musashi, Athelete, Japan, Pre20th
10.9 Barkeep - Nadia Elena Comăneci Romania Athlete 20th Century
10.12 Apathetic Lurker - Pierre Fredy (Baron de Coubertin), Athlete, France, pre 20th

Religious Leader:

1.7 Coffee Warlord - Jesus Christ, Religious Leader, Israel, Pre-20th
1.10 Danny - Muhammad, Religious Leader, Saudi Arabia, pre-20th
3.2 surtt - Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
3.3 Abe Sargent - Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th
8.5 DaddyTorgo - Martin Luther, Religious Leader, Germany, Pre-20th Century
8.8 Noop - Saint Augustine - Religious Leader - Algeria- Pre20th Century
10.1 Lathum - Joseph Smith, Religious Leader, USA, Pre 20th Century
10.2 Galaril - Saint Patrick, Religious Leader - Ireland, Pre-20th century
11.1 Apathetic Lurker - Zarathustra, Religious Leader, Iran, pre 20th
11.9 ntndeacon - Guru Nanak Dev--Religious leader--Pakistan--pre 20th century

Manmade Structure:

5.12 Lathum - Great Wall of China, Manmade structure, China, pre-20th7.9 ntndeacon - Great Pryamid at Giza-Man Made Structure, Egypt, pre 20th
8.2 Galaril - Statue of Liberty, Manmade Structure, USA, Pre-20th
9.2 Surtt - Panama Canal, Man made Structure, Panama, Post-20th
10.10 Abe - Sydney Opera House, Manmade Structure, Australia, 20th
12.3 The Colosseum, Man Made Structure - Italy, Pre 20th Century
12.6 The Colossus, Manmade Structure, Greece, Pre-20th


Geographical Location (River, Mountain, Lake, etc.):

1.5 Noop - Oil Fields of Saudi Arabia, Geographical Location, Saudi Arabia, Pre-20th
6.5 DaddyTorgo - Geographical Location - Fertile Crescent, Iraq, Pre-20th Century
7.6 Izulde - Mt. Everest, Geographic Location, China, 20th Century
9.1 Apathetic Lurker - British Isles, Geographic Location, UK, 20th
9.12 Lathum - Great Barrier Reef, Geographical Location, Australia- 20th Century
11.10 Danny - Amazon Rain Forest, Geographical Location - Brazil, Pre 20th Century
12.9 Barkeep - American Heartland, Geographical Location - US 20th Century
12.10 Abe - The Nile, Geographical Location, Egypt, 20th Century

[DaddyTorgo]

no restrictions about say my "justice minister" having to actually have been a justice minister? living and dead?

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Only limitation is you can't pick more than two people from the same country.

I guess I was wrong about learning something from the previous draft.

:sigh:

Edit: Unless I'm misreading this. Are you saying once a country is picked by anyone, it is eliminated?

[lordscarlet]

To keep complaints down, I'll sit this one out.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by wade moore

I guess I was wrong about learning something from the previous draft.

:sigh:

Edit: Unless I'm misreading this. Are you saying once a country is picked by anyone, it is eliminated?

No, the limitation is only for each participant. So with 12 participants, that means 24 people from one country could potentially be picked.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

no restrictions about say my "justice minister" having to actually have been a justice minister? living and dead?

No restirctions at all. It'll be up to you to make your case to the voters.

If you want to make Bush a scientist or Clinton an athlete, then by all means go ahead.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

No, the limitation is only for each participant. So with 12 participants, that means 24 people from one country could potentially be picked.

:sigh:

Have fun.

I'll leave it at that. It's probably best for everyone that way.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by wade moore

:sigh:

Have fun.

I'll leave it at that. It's probably best for everyone that way.

I mean, I'm open to suggestions. That's not a hard coded rule. I just wanted to add something in there to encourage variety of selections.

[larrymcg421]

For instance, if we needed to increase that to 4 per country, or say half the picks have to be pre-20th century and half post-20th century. Give me your ideas.

[wade moore]

FWIW - My thought is that the draft is too wide open, not too restrictive. I would eliminate a country if he's picked. Or, if you're worried about limiting TOO much, then I would say two times in the entire draft a country can be picked.

Or like you said limit on time periods. Something. To me part of what these drafts were built on were interesting restrictions that make it hard to come up with picks in the later rounds, rather than picking things that could have been good picks in round 2 (like the movie draft).

[larrymcg421]

Okay, how about one per country per category? So if someone picks Lincoln as ruler, then no one else could pick another American in that category, but they could still pick say, Babe Ruth, as athlete.

[Noop]

I want in.

[DaddyTorgo]

increase it to 4 per country in the entire draft and say half of a players picks have to be pre 1850!

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Okay, how about one per country per category? So if someone picks Lincoln as ruler, then no one else could pick another American in that category, but they could still pick say, Babe Ruth, as athlete.

that's a nice twist. combine that with the time-periods restriction?

[Barkeep49]

I'll gladly play.

[larrymcg421]

Okay, I added the new suggested restrictions in the first post.

[DaddyTorgo]

IN

[AENeuman]

Great idea. I was thinking something like this would make a fun draft.

Some random thoughts:

How do you count a person who is born in one country but did their thing in another?

How are older regions/kingdoms/empires going to count?

i know this is a people driven draft, but how about adding some geography? maybe a natural beauty and a man made icon.

[Lathum]

The Moore brothers fuck up these drafts like its nobody's business.

in

[Apathetic Lurker]

I will gladly jump into this if ya want me

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by AENeuman

Great idea. I was thinking something like this would make a fun draft.

Some random thoughts:

How do you count a person who is born in one country but did their thing in another?

How are older regions/kingdoms/empires going to count?

That's a good question. My initial thought is that when the pick is made, then you have to declare a modern country that the pick is being used for, and it should be a country that was part of (or located in) whatever empire the person did their thing in.

And it could be up to the voters to judge if a person was picked for the right country, as long as the person does have some connection to the country. For example, we had the history draft and Joe Louis was picked for the 60s or something like that. I wouldn't forbid such a pick, but leave it up to the voters to do the punishment.

i know this is a people driven draft, but how about adding some geography? maybe a natural beauty and a man made icon.

Excellent idea. I'll add those.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Lathum

The Moore brothers fuck up these drafts like its nobody's business.

in

..

The bad thing is I feel like I'm really trying to make a "better draft" with the input I put in (not just this here, but in all drafts)..

It was pretty disappointing to me when I realized a lot of people seem to feel the way you do.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

The Moore brothers fuck up these drafts like its nobody's business.

in

Originally Posted by wade moore

..

The bad thing is I feel like I'm really trying to make a "better draft" with the input I put in (not just this here, but in all drafts)..

It was pretty disappointing to me when I realized a lot of people seem to feel the way you do.

dude - i think you missed his smiley. he's been in a very sarcastic mood lately.

i for one think any input into the structure of a draft is better than letting it devolve into chaos

[Lathum]

Yeah, apparently the smiley was missed.

I could care less about your guys input.

[Galaril]

Add me in. Sounds fun.

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Yeah, apparently the smiley was missed.

I could care less about your guys input.

I DON"T CARE ABOUT YOU EITHER!

Yeah, shouldn't have triggered on your post. This is more based on some posts in the last couple of draft threads than anything here.

[ntndeacon]

I want in as well

[Abe Sargent]

I'd be wiling to play

[larrymcg421]

Need three more...

[DaddyTorgo]

based on a convo i just had with wade, i/we have got the next draft idea basically all set and ready to go

[wade moore]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

based on a convo i just had with wade, i/we have got the next draft idea basically all set and ready to go

Genius idea by DT, I just helped setup the categories.

[DaddyTorgo]

hey - i wanted to be sure it'd work well as a draft so i figured take it to you - and it's always good to bounce categories off someone else - we each had some good ones

[Surtt]

I'll give it a shot.

[Izulde]

If there's still room I'll hop in.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'll give it a shot. Never actually done one of these, always been in the peanut gallery.

[larrymcg421]

We're all full now.

I'll come up with the draft order in a second.

[Surtt]

What if a country does not exist anymore?

e.g. Prussia or the Holy Roman Empire

[larrymcg421]

1. Apathetic Lurker
2. surtt
3. Abe Sargent
4. Barkeep49
5. Noop
6. Izulde
7. Coffee Warlord
8. DaddyTorgo
9. ntndeacon
10. Danny
11. Galaril
12. Lathum

We'll be doing snake draft like usual, so Lathum will start the second round.

When making picks, please also denote the category, country and whether it is pre-20th century or post-20th century.

Example - Glen "Big Baby" Davis, Army Chief, United States, Post-20th Century

[Lathum]

I always get shafted in the draft order of these things

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Surtt

What if a country does not exist anymore?

e.g. Prussia or the Holy Roman Empire

You declare the modern country that it would qualify for. If an empire covers more than one country, you have to pick one of the countries.

[Coffee Warlord]

And to clarify further, I understand the 1 country / category rule, BUT, can a single player use the same country twice?

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And to clarify further, I understand the 1 country / category rule, BUT, can a single player use the same country twice?

Yes, you could theoretically end up with 12 people from the same country, although it's highly unlikely.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I always get shafted in the draft order of these things

Im willing to flip flop draft picks but I want your 3 and 7th to go with it....

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

When making picks, please also denote the country and whether it is pre-20th century or post-20th century.

Example - Glen "Big Baby" Davis, Army Chief, Post-20th Century

Perhaps fix up the example?

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Perhaps fix up the example?

Heh. Thanks.

[larrymcg421]

And Apathetic Lurker is on the clock...

Also, if you guys get a chance or are going to be away for a long time, please PM me some picks.

[Surtt]

Can a person be used more then once?
(don't see a rule about it)

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Surtt

Can a person be used more then once?
(don't see a rule about it)

Nope.

[Surtt]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Nope.

Didn't think so, but I wanted to make it official.