Historical Nation Draft - Page 7

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 09:40 AM

Indeed. He is, to me, an example of a very big name that was still left on the board. I don't agree with the person(s) who said we don't have any big names left right now. I still can think of some others. Even Polo is a big name, and certainly an intriguing and well thought choice for Diplomat.

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 09:41 AM

As was Marco Polo. One of the few I hadn't even thought of, honestly.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Indeed. He is, to me, an example of a very big name that was still left on the board. I don't agree with the person(s) who said we don't have any big names left right now. I still can think of some others. Even Polo is a big name, and certainly an intriguing and well thought choice for Diplomat.

Thanks.

Alan T · 05-13-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Forgot to mention, he's United States 20th Century.

Yeah there are tons of American Air people that I would look at, but Glenn is near the top. Only other person that I was highly considering from the U.S. would have been Chuck Yeager (people know his test pilot feats, but not as many know about his military career or involvement in the cold war).

I'll leave my comments there, as I don't want to comment about non-americans that can still be chosen

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 09:45 AM

Hmm. Yeager didn't even cross my radar. Good thought Alan.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 09:46 AM

Ok, I need to get my next pick ready

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Hmm. Yeager didn't even cross my radar. Good thought Alan.

I was going to take yeager in the 3rd, but Glenn is a really, really good choice too.

Alan T · 05-13-2009, 09:47 AM

I love the Polo pick.. who here doesn't honestly know the name Marco Polo from childhood games? Wow.. great pick.

Napolean is solid too, very solid.

lordscarlet · 05-13-2009, 10:03 AM

I think there are still a lot of great choices out there. It will be interesting to see the people that veer away from American-centric names.

Galaril · 05-13-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

In a bad way. I think there are WAY better athletes that personify the nation. Jesse Owens, Mark Spitz and Mary Lou Retton come to mind.

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Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- there's also the Jordan and Woods guys

I would of picked Gil Thorpe myself.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 10:23 AM

Apathetic Lurker picks:

2.12 Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th
3.1 Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th

Noop · 05-13-2009, 10:26 AM

Crap. I had Machiavelli as my next pick.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 10:28 AM

Nope, I took Marco Polo as Italy Chief Diplomat, Machiavelli may not be taken there.

Surtt · 05-13-2009, 10:28 AM

3.2 Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th
(big hitter, the Lama)

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 10:28 AM

oops, I'll fix that

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 10:29 AM

I'm going to hold up and not pick until larry rewinds the picks. Machiavelli cannot be taken for Italy and Chief Diplomat

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 10:31 AM

can we petition Tibet to be the country of the Dalai Lama?

Surtt · 05-13-2009, 10:31 AM

I already had my pick up when I saw it.

Surtt · 05-13-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

can we petition Tibet to be the country of the Dalai Lama?

I looked it up to be sure.
It is officially part of China now.

I am ok with it either way, I will change it if everyone thinks I should.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 10:33 AM

Yup, Tibet is not a recognized country by the UN.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 10:33 AM

Fixed. It didn't conflict with surtt's pick.

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 10:33 AM

Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th

Lathum · 05-13-2009, 10:34 AM

I am aware of all that, hence my use of the word petition.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 10:35 AM

Man I can't believe I didn't think of the Dali Lama. Buddha, however, was certainly a great pick.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 10:38 AM

have we discussed yet (seriously) how we assign countries to people? is it where the person was born? the citizenship they held? what's the determinant?

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 10:40 AM

We've generally taken a fairly lassiz-faire approach to that sort of thing.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 10:43 AM

gotcha

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 10:44 AM

idk that it applies to what i'm thinking, was just curious

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

We've generally taken a fairly lassiz-faire approach to that sort of thing.

Someone (larry?) correct me if I'm mistaken.

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 10:46 AM

You can pick birth, or if someone spent most of their life in a country, and is known for that country, then you can use that also. As long as there is some connection to that country, so someone doesn't pick FDR for Bangladesh, then I'll leave it up to the voters.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 10:49 AM

lol ok

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:01 AM

Sorry. Forgot Abe was right before on this way in the Sepentine. Pick will be coming soon.

Galaril · 05-13-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

have we discussed yet (seriously) how we assign countries to people? is it where the person was born? the citizenship they held? what's the determinant?

Yeah, I was wondering that too?

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:08 AM

Alexander the Great (Greece) Military Leader Pre-20th

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 11:08 AM

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Alexander the Great (Greece) Military Leader Pre-20th

Strike that. Somehow missed him in the third pick.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:09 AM

Couldn't believe my good luck there for a very good reason

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DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 11:09 AM

BK - he was picked way long ago. like...top 5

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 11:09 AM

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 11:10 AM

You can't have my picks BK.

Alan T · 05-13-2009, 11:10 AM

Now he has to settle for John the Above Average instead!

larrymcg421 · 05-13-2009, 11:11 AM

Added my answer to the birth question in the first post so everyone can see it.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:11 AM

Wasn't originally planning on pick this category, but after I thought Alexander was free, this name popped into mind and it seems like a better pick here than any of the people who had been on my board:

Ghengis Khan - Millitary Leader Mongolia (Pre-20th)
Just as Alexander stretched the boundries of the West, Khan stretched the boundries of the east.

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 11:11 AM

Or Ed the Slightly Better then Normal?

Coffee Warlord · 05-13-2009, 11:12 AM

Oh so you suck. He was next for me.

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Wasn't originally planning on pick this category, but after I thought Alexander was free, this name popped into mind and it seems like a better pick here than any of the people who had been on my board:

Ghengis Khan - Millitary Leader Mongolia (Pre-20th)
Just as Alexander stretched the boundries of the West, Khan stretched the boundries of the east.

ass - he was on my list to try to pick up later as i figured he'd drop

DaddyTorgo · 05-13-2009, 11:13 AM

oh - well i guess i wouldn't have gotten him then - LOL

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:13 AM

Obviously his being Mongolian doesn't really block anyone in the category, but I'm just fine with that.

Barkeep49 · 05-13-2009, 11:15 AM

BTW, the Stalin pick hasn't gotten much discussion. I'm going to be interested to see how voters react to someone like Stalin. Clearly he was a fantastic ruler/leader, of a certain style. But he's also one of history's villains, and since this is a Building Country Draft, will that matter? Or will his ruthless effectiveness matter more?

Abe Sargent · 05-13-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Obviously his being Mongolian doesn't really block anyone in the category, but I'm just fine with that.

Untrue

05-13-2009, 09:46 AM	#306
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Ok, I need to get my next pick ready __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 09:47 AM	#308
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I love the Polo pick.. who here doesn't honestly know the name Marco Polo from childhood games? Wow.. great pick. Napolean is solid too, very solid. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

05-13-2009, 10:03 AM	#309
lordscarlet Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Washington, DC	I think there are still a lot of great choices out there. It will be interesting to see the people that veer away from American-centric names. __________________ Sixteen Colors ANSI/ASCII Art Archive "...the better half of the Moores..." -cthomer5000

05-13-2009, 10:23 AM	#311
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Apathetic Lurker picks: 2.12 Josef Stalin, Leader/Ruler, Russia, 20th 3.1 Sir Arthur Harris, Air Chief, Great Britain, 20th __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner Last edited by larrymcg421 : 05-13-2009 at 10:33 AM.

05-13-2009, 10:26 AM	#312
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Miami	Crap. I had Machiavelli as my next pick. __________________ Subby's favorite woman hater.

05-13-2009, 09:40 AM	#301
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Indeed. He is, to me, an example of a very big name that was still left on the board. I don't agree with the person(s) who said we don't have any big names left right now. I still can think of some others. Even Polo is a big name, and certainly an intriguing and well thought choice for Diplomat.

05-13-2009, 09:41 AM	#302
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	As was Marco Polo. One of the few I hadn't even thought of, honestly.

05-13-2009, 09:45 AM	#305
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Hmm. Yeager didn't even cross my radar. Good thought Alan.

05-13-2009, 10:28 AM	#313
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Nope, I took Marco Polo as Italy Chief Diplomat, Machiavelli may not be taken there. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 10:28 AM	#314
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	3.2 Dalai Lama, Religious Leader, China, Post-20th (big hitter, the Lama) __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis Last edited by Surtt : 05-13-2009 at 10:28 AM.

05-13-2009, 10:28 AM	#315
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	oops, I'll fix that __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 10:29 AM	#316
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I'm going to hold up and not pick until larry rewinds the picks. Machiavelli cannot be taken for Italy and Chief Diplomat __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 10:31 AM	#317
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	can we petition Tibet to be the country of the Dalai Lama?

05-13-2009, 10:31 AM	#318
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I already had my pick up when I saw it. __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

05-13-2009, 10:33 AM	#320
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yup, Tibet is not a recognized country by the UN. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 10:33 AM	#321
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Fixed. It didn't conflict with surtt's pick. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 10:33 AM	#322
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Siddhartha Buddha, India, Religious Leader, Pre20th __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 10:34 AM	#323
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am aware of all that, hence my use of the word petition.

05-13-2009, 10:35 AM	#324
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Man I can't believe I didn't think of the Dali Lama. Buddha, however, was certainly a great pick.

05-13-2009, 10:38 AM	#325
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	have we discussed yet (seriously) how we assign countries to people? is it where the person was born? the citizenship they held? what's the determinant? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-13-2009, 10:40 AM	#326
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	We've generally taken a fairly lassiz-faire approach to that sort of thing.

05-13-2009, 10:43 AM	#327
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	gotcha __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-13-2009, 10:44 AM	#328
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	idk that it applies to what i'm thinking, was just curious __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-13-2009, 10:46 AM	#330
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	You can pick birth, or if someone spent most of their life in a country, and is known for that country, then you can use that also. As long as there is some connection to that country, so someone doesn't pick FDR for Bangladesh, then I'll leave it up to the voters. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 10:49 AM	#331
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol ok __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-13-2009, 11:01 AM	#332
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Sorry. Forgot Abe was right before on this way in the Sepentine. Pick will be coming soon.

05-13-2009, 11:08 AM	#334
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Alexander the Great (Greece) Military Leader Pre-20th

05-13-2009, 11:08 AM	#335
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	??? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 11:09 AM	#337
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Couldn't believe my good luck there for a very good reason .

05-13-2009, 11:09 AM	#338
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	BK - he was picked way long ago. like...top 5 __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-13-2009, 11:09 AM	#339
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

05-13-2009, 11:10 AM	#340
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	You can't have my picks BK. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

05-13-2009, 11:10 AM	#341
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Now he has to settle for John the Above Average instead! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

05-13-2009, 11:11 AM	#342
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	Added my answer to the birth question in the first post so everyone can see it. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

05-13-2009, 11:11 AM	#343
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Wasn't originally planning on pick this category, but after I thought Alexander was free, this name popped into mind and it seems like a better pick here than any of the people who had been on my board: Ghengis Khan - Millitary Leader Mongolia (Pre-20th) Just as Alexander stretched the boundries of the West, Khan stretched the boundries of the east.