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Old 07-01-2009, 01:18 PM   #351
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:20 PM   #352
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That's a very reasonable cap hit for a guy like Hossa. Very reasonable. Probably just a little bit outside of what Detroit could offer.

It will be really interesting to see what all these teams with players with 10+ year contracts look in the next 6-8 years.

I'm not 100% sure on how the buyout system works, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some push from owners/GMs who have these decade long deals to make it so that a buyout's cap space is equal to the actual amount of money being paid out then, thus allowing these guys to get out with only a $1 million hit or something.

Hell, they've got 1, probably 2 CBA's to work on to get it.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:24 PM   #353
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:26 PM   #354
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The Hawks also signed Marian Hossa's Slovakian BFF Tomas Kopecky. I bet that was part of the arrangement.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:31 PM   #355
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:33 PM   #356
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Toskala to the Oilers?
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:49 PM   #357
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HaHa...

Can't say I will miss Hossa all that much. He notoriously did what he does best; disappears in the playoffs. I do believe that his playoff performance with the Pens was an aberration, not the norm.

I also do not believe this makes Chicago all that much better. During the regular season? Possibly. During the playoffs? Not so much. They are an up and coming team and will be a serious contender. However, I don't see them challenging the Wings yet.
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:49 PM   #358
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Old 07-01-2009, 01:58 PM   #359
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:10 PM   #360
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:14 PM   #361
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Good article about Holland and the Wings

Around the Rink – NHL Free Agency Edition « Official Blog for the Detroit Red Wings
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:19 PM   #362
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Buhlin-Wall to the Oilers. 4 years/$15 million in total. You do the math.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:41 PM   #363
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Buhlin-Wall to the Oilers. 4 years/$15 million in total. You do the math.

who?
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:47 PM   #364
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:59 PM   #365
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Nikolai Khabibulin

Oh, never heard that nickname before. Wow, bad move for Edmonton IMHO. Did they give up on Toskala?
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:02 PM   #366
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Hal Gill is a Canadien: 2 years at $2.5 m per

Mike Rupp is a Penguin: 2 years at $825K per

Ian Laperriere is a Flyer: 3 yerars at $1.17 m (I'm surprised by this. Isn't this pretty close to what Colorado offered him?)
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:03 PM   #367
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:12 PM   #368
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Pretty pumped about the Hawks getting Hossa. I liked Havlat but he just got injured way too much. Not sure how you guys can think that's not an improvement considering they make the same amount. It also takes away a 40 goal scorer from their biggest conference rival.

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Old 07-01-2009, 04:16 PM   #369
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Not sure how you guys can think that's not an improvement considering they make the same amount. It also takes away a 40 goal scorer from their biggest conference rival.

I think it's a huge improvement. I'd much rather have Hossa than Havlat and he's cheaper (cap-wise) to boot. I think the Blackhawks will be good enough to challenge for the Central Division title for sure (for whatever that's worth). They certain closed the (already narrow) gap with the Wings.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:23 PM   #370
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Pretty pumped about the Hawks getting Hossa. I liked Havlat but he just got injured way too much. Not sure how you guys can think that's not an improvement considering they make the same amount. It also takes away a 40 goal scorer from their biggest conference rival.

I don't disagree with the Havlat/Hossa comparison, but who is going to play goalie? I also think the Hawks defense core is sub-par. Just my opinion though.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:31 PM   #371
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I don't disagree with the Havlat/Hossa comparison, but who is going to play goalie? I also think the Hawks defense core is sub-par. Just my opinion though.

I really felt like Seabrook stepped up come playoff time, and helped to compensate for Campbell's disappearance (relative to his 7m cap number at least). But I agree that goaltender needs to be addressed. The book is wide open on Huet, and the Wings picked him apart.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:32 PM   #372
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:33 PM   #373
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I really felt like Seabrook stepped up come playoff time, and helped to compensate for Campbell's disappearance (relative to his 7m cap number at least). But I agree that goaltender needs to be addressed. The book is wide open on Huet, and the Wings picked him apart.

Despite struggling in Game 4, Huet was great in Game 5.

I think the Hawks are set up quite nicely for many years to come (assumign the cap remains relatively static).
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:34 PM   #374
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Pavel Kubina to the Thrashers for Garnet Exelby.

There's more to the deal apparently, but those are the main parts.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:41 PM   #375
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Despite struggling in Game 4, Huet was great in Game 5.

I think the Hawks are set up quite nicely for many years to come (assumign the cap remains relatively static).

I see Huet as another along the lines of Jose Theodore. Did pretty well in Montreal but when he left, the flaws in his game seemed to become apparent in a hurry. I am not sold on him.

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There's more to the deal apparently, but those are the main parts.

Kubina really has fallen hasn't he?
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:21 PM   #376
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Komisarek to the Leafs: 4 years at $4.5 million per.

With Orr, Exelby and Komisarek, I think Brian Burke is finally getting the type of team he wants.
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Old 07-01-2009, 05:36 PM   #377
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Jackets join the fray, by signing Sami Pahlsson to a 3 yr deal at 2.7 per.

Expensive, but I think the Jackets still have to overpay to get anyone to play for them.

CR or Hawks fans, how's he looked the past season? He seems like the perfect 3rd line center in a Hitchcock system.
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Old 07-01-2009, 06:06 PM   #378
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on the Kubina - XLB (and Colin Stuart) trade.

There's little reason to think the Thrashers won't suck again next year as we prepare to watch Kovy depart, but at least Exelby was popular. At worst he was probably the second most popular guy on the team with the fans, despite frequently being out of position, he was at least entertaining to watch at times.

This trade could revolutionize the way people struggle to find any reason to go to Phillips Arena as long as DW is the GM.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:30 PM   #379
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Gaborik to the Rangers, 5 years, $5.75 million.

Think he regrets turning down 10 / 78 million from the Wild last fall?

EDIT: neverming, TSN had it wrong. it's $7.5 per.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:38 PM   #380
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Cammy to the Habs...5 years/6mil a year.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:38 PM   #381
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wow...Cammy got more than Gaborik???
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:38 PM   #382
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More I didn't see yet (i scrolled thu quickly)

Cammalieri to MTL $30M over 5 years = $6M per

Komisarek to Toronto $22.5M over 5 = $4.5M per (is that not what they gave Finger!? Komisarek worth as much as Finger? WTF)

Gaborik to Rangers $37.5M over 5 = $7.5M per

Spacek to MTL $11.5 over 3 = $3.83M per

Cole stays in Carolina $5.8M over 2 = $2.9M per

Greg Zanon to Minnesota $5.2M over 3 = $1.73 per

David Booth (RFA) stays in Florida $25.5 over 6 = $4.25M per

Bunch of other minor junk: Garon to CBUS, Strudwick to EDM etc
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:40 PM   #383
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SR i think Finger was 3.5...i may be wrong though.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:40 PM   #384
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Spacek to the Habs hurts the Sabres IMHO.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:40 PM   #385
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Just reading now Gionta to Montreal

So, when the Habs win the Cup, Gionta will sit on Gomez's shoulders, and Gomez on Cammalieri's shoulders...so that someone can hand the Cup to Hal Gill.
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:43 PM   #386
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:43 PM   #387
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Is the Kovalev staying in Montreal thing false? I saw it earlier at work as $8.8 over 2, but was that simply rumor?
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:43 PM   #388
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:56 PM   #389
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I don't understand the Rupp move at all for Pittsburgh-

Right now we have about 80 bottom 6 forwards, still need (at least) 1 top 6 wing and another D.

Adams, Dupuis, Staal, Kennedy, Cooke, Godard, Rupp, Talbot, Dustin Jeffrey ready in the AHL, plus about 5 other guys in the AHL who got 3rd and 4th line minutes last year.

My hope is Pascal Dupuis is being moved. He's a team guy, but he's on the 4th line and making $1.4M for the next two seasons. We can't afford that.

I really wanted Zanon, as I think Scuderi's gone, and the $1.7M price tag makes it even harder to take. Scuderi is getting probably $1M+ more than that a year.

EDIT - Zanon's deal is $5.8/3, not $5.2. So cap is $1.93 a year. Still could have fit under the Pens cap.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:00 PM   #390
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Just reading now Gionta to Montreal

So, when the Habs win the Cup, Gionta will sit on Gomez's shoulders, and Gomez on Cammalieri's shoulders...so that someone can hand the Cup to Hal Gill.

Gionta $25 over 5.

Habs add over $17M per year against the cap today.
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Spacek to the Habs hurts the Sabres IMHO.

Sabres got Steve Montador $3.1 over 2 years. Not going to replace Spacek's minutes, but I like Montador. Another guy I was holding out hope for in Pittsburgh if Scuderi can't be kept.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:10 PM   #392
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John Madden to Chicago 1 year $2.75M

Steve Sullivan stay in Nashville (how did Montreal miss this short dude?) 2 years $3.75M per

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:54 PM   #394
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It's a journeyman (at best I guess) forward that finally made it to the NHL for 33 games last year after being drafted in 2001 (and finishing 4 years at Colorado College before turning pro in 2004). A speedy 6'2", 205 lefty, hasn't broken the 30 point barrier since 1999 in the USHL. Has a knack for scoring short-handed, all three of his five goals last year came that way. One of three pro hockey playing brothers (and a sister playing at BC) including Mark Stuart of the Bruins.

edit to amend: I guess I should say "roleplaying forward" instead of "journeyman forward"
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:55 PM   #395
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Gaborik to the Rangers, 5 years, $5.75 million.

Think he regrets turning down 10 / 78 million from the Wild last fall?

EDIT: neverming, TSN had it wrong. it's $7.5 per.

Ah, the Rangers... They just never, ever learn, do they?

If Hossa can be had for $5.2 million, how can they justify Gaborik at $7.5?
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:59 PM   #396
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:17 PM   #397
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Ah, the Rangers... They just never, ever learn, do they?

If Hossa can be had for $5.2 million, how can they justify Gaborik at $7.5?

I can't say Gaborik is worth the money, but keep in mind that Hossa's deal is for 12 years rather than the more reasonable 5 that they gave Gaborik.

That said, what a crap signing. Damn you Sather.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:46 PM   #398
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So the Devils lose three forwards today... do they plan to bring any in at all? Or do you get past the top line and then it's just the Dainius Zubrus show? Can somebody just punch me in the mouth now and get it over with?
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:47 PM   #399
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So the Devils lose three forwards today... do they plan to bring any in at all? Or do you get past the top line and then it's just the Dainius Zubrus show? Can somebody just punch me in the mouth now and get it over with?

Stop over I'll do it for you. I'm not going to work tomorrow so anytime tonight is fine with me. Wear your Crosby mask and jersey.
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:52 PM   #400
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TSN is reporting that Havlat has a verbal agreement with Minny.

So who complete's the sniper shuffle?

Hossa went to Chicago. Havlat is going to Minny. Gaborik went to the Rangers. Gomez went to Montreal, so maybe Kovalev signs on the cheap with Detroit to close the loop?
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