Werewolf XCVII - Labyrinth II (GAME OVER - COMMONERS WIN!) - Page 19

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 10:49 PM

bah...that's a serious momentum-killer IMO. It's not my game of course, and GM is free to do as they see fit, but that just seems unnecessary.

The Jackal · 06-25-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

bah...that's a serious momentum-killer IMO. It's not my game of course, and GM is free to do as they see fit, but that just seems unnecessary.

In a game with two moves a day I feel like people need a break, I know I certainly do, and I have had to commit at least an hour at my computer everyday this week at 12 or 9, and I have places to be at those times this weekend. Plus, it wouldn't be fair if there are 1+ people who simply don't check over the weekends, since it would give certain people an unfair advantage in the Labyrinth.

I'm not trying to stop the flow of the game.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

In a game with two moves a day I feel like people need a break, I know I certainly do, and I have had to commit at least an hour at my computer everyday this week at 12 or 9, and I have places to be at those times this weekend. Plus, it wouldn't be fair if there are 1+ people who simply don't check over the weekends, since it would give certain people an unfair advantage in the Labyrinth.

I'm not trying to stop the flow of the game.

fair nuff. that's true there's a movement component...i forgot about that. i retract my statement.

The Jackal · 06-25-2009, 10:55 PM

And actually, my cousins 24th birthday is tomorrow night, so I definitely will not be around for the deadline - so how about we put that on Sunday at 9 instead of tomorrow at 9. Sorry for any inconvenience, but I didn't know about this party until Wednesday.

Danny · 06-25-2009, 11:05 PM

Vote NFG

see you guys on Monday

Abe Sargent · 06-25-2009, 11:08 PM

lo all, let me get caugh up real quick

hoopsguy · 06-25-2009, 11:10 PM

Make sure to post as you go, Abe

Abe Sargent · 06-25-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

The results are in, and Abe is the one on the chopping block. You all stare expectantly and sure enough, you aren't disappointed.

Abe shatters into millions of icy particles.

Abe was the Ancient of Ice!

I think it's amazingly poor form to know I leave at around 4:30, then start voting for me only after I leave, knowing I'm gone and unable to defend myself. Having said that, thanks for teh gam Jackal!

hoopsguy · 06-25-2009, 11:19 PM

Abe, I can only speak for my own vote. But I think that the timing on it was driven a lot more by my own schedule than yours.

1.) Could not post in the thread until 1PM EST, based on game events
2.) Real life work commitments impacting involvement in thread at times
3.) Doing some vote/post analysis to feel confident that you were the wolf in the pairing with RendeR
4.) Feeling like there were enough people that would be willing to move it from JAG to you, given concerns about brutal wolf

Anyway, I would have liked for you to be around to take part in the discussion. It would have been more fun and might have changed the result.

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 11:23 PM

So why are we going after me instead of JAG? We know he is a wolf.

In that case vote JAG

Tyrith · 06-26-2009, 01:05 AM

See you on SAturday :P

VOTE NFG

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2009, 07:24 AM

wait - why are we voting nfg now and not killing the damn brutal?

nfg22 · 06-26-2009, 07:47 AM

because tyrinth is a wolf and wants to delay killing wolfs?

Barkeep49 · 06-26-2009, 08:06 AM

Vote JAG

I voted for him yesterday. I vote for him today.

RendeR · 06-26-2009, 08:09 AM

We need to consolidate ourselves guys, this split on which wolf to kill first seems kinda stupid. Does it matter now which is which? we know who they are, the brutal makes no difference.

nfg22 · 06-26-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

We need to consolidate ourselves guys, this split on which wolf to kill first seems kinda stupid. Does it matter now which is which? we know who they are, the brutal makes no difference.

Really? You know im a wolf? How? Because i got called out for a couple statements I made, which if you look through them are wholly consistent?

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2009, 08:21 AM

VOTE JAG

lerriuqs · 06-26-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Abe, I can only speak for my own vote. But I think that the timing on it was driven a lot more by my own schedule than yours.

1.) Could not post in the thread until 1PM EST, based on game events
2.) Real life work commitments impacting involvement in thread at times
3.) Doing some vote/post analysis to feel confident that you were the wolf in the pairing with RendeR
4.) Feeling like there were enough people that would be willing to move it from JAG to you, given concerns about brutal wolf

Anyway, I would have liked for you to be around to take part in the discussion. It would have been more fun and might have changed the result.

That would be about it from my standpoint too...

Danny · 06-26-2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think it's amazingly poor form to know I leave at around 4:30, then start voting for me only after I leave, knowing I'm gone and unable to defend myself. Having said that, thanks for teh gam Jackal!

Not really, Render confirmed our thoughts after you had left which left little doubt as to your allegiance. I am sorry you weren't on, but it was a smart move on our part.

Thomkal · 06-26-2009, 09:36 AM

I think we need to go after the non-brutal wolf today if we know for sure which one that is-between Chief Rum and I, I'm hopeful one of us will survive to let us know that. I think the wolves might have expected us to go for JAG first since he was the one we knew for sure was a wolf, and let the other wolves try to get to the center of the labyrinth. So I think the smart move would be to take out the other wolf, who's likely closer to the center.

Danny · 06-26-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

I think we need to go after the non-brutal wolf today if we know for sure which one that is-between Chief Rum and I, I'm hopeful one of us will survive to let us know that. I think the wolves might have expected us to go for JAG first since he was the one we knew for sure was a wolf, and let the other wolves try to get to the center of the labyrinth. So I think the smart move would be to take out the other wolf, who's likely closer to the center.

I agree and we'll see the result of the scan, but if one of you confirms which of NFG and Tyrith is the wolf, we should go there with the vote.

Thomkal · 06-26-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think it's amazingly poor form to know I leave at around 4:30, then start voting for me only after I leave, knowing I'm gone and unable to defend myself. Having said that, thanks for teh gam Jackal!

yeah Abe, I can understand your feelings here, but the case against you did not solidify until you were gone-we figured out Render was the Paladin and he came forward to confirm it. The only roles you could have claimed at that point were the Paladin and the FBI agent-and we knew Chief Rum was the FBI agent. It was unlikely you were the Paladin over Render because there would have been simply no reason for you on night 1 to protect him over yourself or anyone else.

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

I agree and we'll see the result of the scan, but if one of you confirms which of NFG and Tyrith is the wolf, we should go there with the vote.

that's true. we need to see those scan results first. oh and i need to submit a movement order before my conference call that will last till noon.

Danny · 06-26-2009, 09:46 AM

My quick vote was more of a joke about the lack of action until Monday. We'll see what the results of possible scans are.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

My quick vote was more of a joke about the lack of action until Monday. We'll see what the results of possible scans are.

Yeah, I figure none of these votes are really set in stone, but I wanted to wait for scan results, too.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 10:07 AM

Okay, The Jackal, we want our results!!

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2009, 10:08 AM

okay - just sharing - i dunno how everyone else's movement is going, but i keep running into dead ends nonstop.

The Jackal · 06-26-2009, 10:16 AM

A few movements left and then will post the results.

nfg22 · 06-26-2009, 10:20 AM

I have run into one dead end..it was sad cause then I have to go back to where i came from thus wasting a move..

The Jackal · 06-26-2009, 10:24 AM

You awaken in the morning to an image of the Jester in front of you, as usual. He seems to be standing over something. He beckons you closer with a finger and pans your view downwards, where you see the charred remnants of Thomkal.

Thomkal was Mentok, the Mind Taker!

nfg22 · 06-26-2009, 10:26 AM

And so my saga begins...no scan for me. I still say we go after JAG now...seeing as we have no seer left, so we need to kill the brutal sometime.

The Jackal · 06-26-2009, 10:27 AM

"Just thought you'd all like to know - there's SIX of you within six rooms of the middle! I wonder who!"

The Jester offers a mighty laugh then disappears.

RendeR · 06-26-2009, 10:50 AM

such fun....I found a little girl in the midle of a room, she is sobbing and I had the choice to find out what was wrong or ingore her, I chose to find out what was wrong (Paladin, duh)

I await the results of this...just fair warning that something gruesome might happen to me soon.

Thomkal · 06-26-2009, 10:55 AM

ah well knew it was coming sooner or later-good luck commoners!

Danny · 06-26-2009, 11:01 AM

good job thomkal!

Render I made a decision in my room too, hopefully we both don't die

RendeR · 06-26-2009, 11:03 AM

It would be just like jackal to toss in insta-kills to even the odds in a very one sided game =)

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 11:03 AM

What was your decision, Danny?

Danny · 06-26-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

What was your decision, Danny?

I decided to run back like a little girl, or did I?

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

I decided to run back like a little girl, or did I?

Well, that does sound like something you would do. Or does it?

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 11:23 AM

So I guess now we're just waiting for CR, right?

Chief Rum · 06-26-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22

And so my saga begins...no scan for me. I still say we go after JAG now...seeing as we have no seer left, so we need to kill the brutal sometime.

Who says you weren't scanned. You were, by me.

Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately for you), my scan failed again, so I did not learn your role.

I still think we want to avoid the brutal, so that means choosing between you and Tyrith, and I still feel Tyrith's story sound more real.

DaddyTorgo · 06-26-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Who says you weren't scanned. You were, by me.

Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately for you), my scan failed again, so I did not learn your role.

I still think we want to avoid the brutal, so that means choosing between you and Tyrith, and I still feel Tyrith's story sound more real.

why do you still feel we want to avoid the brutal? we have a commanding lead as far as # of players. We should get the wolf that we know for 100% right now.

nfg22 · 06-26-2009, 11:35 AM

Cops...you can never trust em. Anyways, I am sad you failed because I would have been cleared. At least this will make for a good day of voting, or rather two days.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 11:36 AM

I think it would be nice to give you another chance at a scan, Chief, but I'm confused by the fact that Thomkal died. I figured RendeR would have guarded him. But apparently he didn't, so he must have guarded you? If that's the case, you're probably sunk anyway.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 11:39 AM

To clarify: Thomkal revealed so late night-before-last that I can't imagine that anyone changed their plans because of it, which led me to think we were cool in that RendeR would be able to guard Thomkal last night. So I figured if we lost anyone, it would be CR. Maybe RendeR was just trying to outfox them by guarding CR, but you would think he'd want to make sure to guard the guy who gets a full scan.

Danny · 06-26-2009, 11:39 AM

If I was render and I could not have guarded the seer I would have guarded myself. Reasoning is if the wolves decided to attack CR instead Thomkal would have gotten off his scan and CR's death wouldn't have mattered anyway.

nfg22 · 06-26-2009, 11:42 AM

RendeR said he could have guarded the seer. He said he guarded neither FBI or Seer the night before right? Maybe he lied so they wouldnt attack the seer?

Danny · 06-26-2009, 11:43 AM

It's generally not a good idea for the Bodyguard to be honest about who they guarded. If it were me, I would have hinted that I did guard the seer as that would likely leave more second guessing of the wolves than hinting that you did not guard him.

Passacaglia · 06-26-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

It's generally not a good idea for the Bodyguard to be honest about who they guarded. If it were me, I would have hinted that I did guard the seer as that would likely leave more second guessing of the wolves than hinting that you did not guard him.

I agree with that point, so RendeR could have just been lying when he said he could guard the seer, to throw off the wolves. I'm not sure how much it all matters -- we'll have to ask Render whether or not he can guard CR, and we won't be able to believe him anyway.

dubb93 · 06-26-2009, 11:53 AM

Vote JAG

At some point the brutal needs to go. That point is today, we are to the point where we don't need scans so there is no point in trying to beat around the bush here and save a seer.

06-25-2009, 10:49 PM	#901
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	bah...that's a serious momentum-killer IMO. It's not my game of course, and GM is free to do as they see fit, but that just seems unnecessary. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 11:08 PM	#906
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	lo all, let me get caugh up real quick __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-26-2009, 07:24 AM	#912
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wait - why are we voting nfg now and not killing the damn brutal? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-26-2009, 08:09 AM	#915
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	We need to consolidate ourselves guys, this split on which wolf to kill first seems kinda stupid. Does it matter now which is which? we know who they are, the brutal makes no difference. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-26-2009, 08:21 AM	#917
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	VOTE JAG __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 10:55 PM	#904
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	And actually, my cousins 24th birthday is tomorrow night, so I definitely will not be around for the deadline - so how about we put that on Sunday at 9 instead of tomorrow at 9. Sorry for any inconvenience, but I didn't know about this party until Wednesday.

06-25-2009, 11:05 PM	#905
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote NFG see you guys on Monday

06-25-2009, 11:10 PM	#907
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Make sure to post as you go, Abe

06-25-2009, 11:19 PM	#909
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Abe, I can only speak for my own vote. But I think that the timing on it was driven a lot more by my own schedule than yours. 1.) Could not post in the thread until 1PM EST, based on game events 2.) Real life work commitments impacting involvement in thread at times 3.) Doing some vote/post analysis to feel confident that you were the wolf in the pairing with RendeR 4.) Feeling like there were enough people that would be willing to move it from JAG to you, given concerns about brutal wolf Anyway, I would have liked for you to be around to take part in the discussion. It would have been more fun and might have changed the result.

06-25-2009, 11:23 PM	#910
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	So why are we going after me instead of JAG? We know he is a wolf. In that case vote JAG

06-26-2009, 01:05 AM	#911
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	See you on SAturday :P VOTE NFG

06-26-2009, 07:47 AM	#913
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	because tyrinth is a wolf and wants to delay killing wolfs?

06-26-2009, 08:06 AM	#914
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Vote JAG I voted for him yesterday. I vote for him today.

06-26-2009, 09:36 AM	#920
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I think we need to go after the non-brutal wolf today if we know for sure which one that is-between Chief Rum and I, I'm hopeful one of us will survive to let us know that. I think the wolves might have expected us to go for JAG first since he was the one we knew for sure was a wolf, and let the other wolves try to get to the center of the labyrinth. So I think the smart move would be to take out the other wolf, who's likely closer to the center.

06-26-2009, 09:46 AM	#924
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	My quick vote was more of a joke about the lack of action until Monday. We'll see what the results of possible scans are.

06-26-2009, 10:07 AM	#926
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Okay, The Jackal, we want our results!!

06-26-2009, 10:08 AM	#927
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	okay - just sharing - i dunno how everyone else's movement is going, but i keep running into dead ends nonstop. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-26-2009, 10:16 AM	#928
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	A few movements left and then will post the results.

06-26-2009, 10:20 AM	#929
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	I have run into one dead end..it was sad cause then I have to go back to where i came from thus wasting a move..

06-26-2009, 10:24 AM	#930
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	You awaken in the morning to an image of the Jester in front of you, as usual. He seems to be standing over something. He beckons you closer with a finger and pans your view downwards, where you see the charred remnants of Thomkal. Thomkal was Mentok, the Mind Taker!

06-26-2009, 10:26 AM	#931
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	And so my saga begins...no scan for me. I still say we go after JAG now...seeing as we have no seer left, so we need to kill the brutal sometime.

06-26-2009, 10:27 AM	#932
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	"Just thought you'd all like to know - there's SIX of you within six rooms of the middle! I wonder who!" The Jester offers a mighty laugh then disappears. Last edited by The Jackal : 06-26-2009 at 10:29 AM.

06-26-2009, 10:50 AM	#933
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	such fun....I found a little girl in the midle of a room, she is sobbing and I had the choice to find out what was wrong or ingore her, I chose to find out what was wrong (Paladin, duh) I await the results of this...just fair warning that something gruesome might happen to me soon. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-26-2009, 10:55 AM	#934
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	ah well knew it was coming sooner or later-good luck commoners!

06-26-2009, 11:01 AM	#935
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	good job thomkal! Render I made a decision in my room too, hopefully we both don't die

06-26-2009, 11:03 AM	#936
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	It would be just like jackal to toss in insta-kills to even the odds in a very one sided game =) __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-26-2009, 11:03 AM	#937
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	What was your decision, Danny?

06-26-2009, 11:23 AM	#940
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So I guess now we're just waiting for CR, right?

06-26-2009, 11:35 AM	#943
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Cops...you can never trust em. Anyways, I am sad you failed because I would have been cleared. At least this will make for a good day of voting, or rather two days.

06-26-2009, 11:36 AM	#944
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think it would be nice to give you another chance at a scan, Chief, but I'm confused by the fact that Thomkal died. I figured RendeR would have guarded him. But apparently he didn't, so he must have guarded you? If that's the case, you're probably sunk anyway.

06-26-2009, 11:39 AM	#945
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	To clarify: Thomkal revealed so late night-before-last that I can't imagine that anyone changed their plans because of it, which led me to think we were cool in that RendeR would be able to guard Thomkal last night. So I figured if we lost anyone, it would be CR. Maybe RendeR was just trying to outfox them by guarding CR, but you would think he'd want to make sure to guard the guy who gets a full scan.

06-26-2009, 11:39 AM	#946
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If I was render and I could not have guarded the seer I would have guarded myself. Reasoning is if the wolves decided to attack CR instead Thomkal would have gotten off his scan and CR's death wouldn't have mattered anyway.

06-26-2009, 11:42 AM	#947
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	RendeR said he could have guarded the seer. He said he guarded neither FBI or Seer the night before right? Maybe he lied so they wouldnt attack the seer?

06-26-2009, 11:43 AM	#948
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	It's generally not a good idea for the Bodyguard to be honest about who they guarded. If it were me, I would have hinted that I did guard the seer as that would likely leave more second guessing of the wolves than hinting that you did not guard him.

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