LXXVII Spawn III: Game Over (See Post 4507) - Page 25

path12 · 07-09-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Pass - Did you ever explain why you wanted to put Alan in the brig?

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

No.

Would you?

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Is there any value in having both Alan and Packers do slave clean-up duty? I'm worried about Packer failing because of his wounded/exhausted state.

Well I need to have 1 AP available for ordering Danny to do his work if he doesn't show up before I have to leave for softball (he should be here in the next hour based on yesterday though)...

and I need to have 1 AP available to order Schmidty to clean up slaves in case he doesn't show up before deadline... (I actually would probably need to do this before I leave though since when I get back BK will be gone tonight until deadline)

So that leaves 1 AP for me and 1 AP for Packer.. If people rather Packer try to recharge a phaser, that is probably ok with me (Do we know how many crystlium that uses up?)

Passacaglia · 07-09-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Feel free to have at it, please.

I thought there was semi-cleared and therefore should have been kept with other semi-cleared folks. I also thought that if one of them WERE bad and did something in there, we might have learned something about it to try to get to the bottom of it now, then finding out days later that someone who we've cleared was spawn (which happened with Vince in Spawn I).

PurdueBrad · 07-09-2008, 02:21 PM

IIRC they had no idea how much Crys it took. I would actually double-up the slave clean-up, to cover for a fake OR in case Packer fails.

Tyrith · 07-09-2008, 02:21 PM

path's vote kind of mirrors my own thinking right now. I'm pretty sure I'm either going to vote for Packer or for Telle right now, but I think it's too early for the Telle vote -- I'd like to get at least one more mission out of her, if not more, and might be a good candidate for a clear in the near future.

Passacaglia · 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Would you?

Sure, see above. Now, I'd like to ask why Alan had a problem being in the brig with two people who were semi-cleared.

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Only other possible use would be if we want to send him on slave cleanup duty instead of me to make sure none of the security personal faked their work. (he is wounded and exhausted though).

Otherwise I believe only he and I are the only ones with AP left to be able to do that function if we want to do it.

I don't have a strong opinion on this either way, although I'd rather you not be the one to do cleanup duty. I feel there is also an argument to be made to just risk it and see what happens with the people already doing cleanup - as 2 loose slaves shouldn't do too much damage and if someone did fake their duty, it will put a big spotlight on where to look for the first Spawn.

PurdueBrad · 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM

Path, I've got a good song for tonight's work. Can't wait to bust it out!

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

So you think he's more of a clueless villager type than the idea that he's been off the ship and is voting to lynch engineers that have been helpful to this point.

Or is that an indictment of how you think of my spawny-ness (i.e. clap is headed down the correct road)?

Neither. I just don't feel the case for either of you is very strong right now. Too little to go on.

path12 · 07-09-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Path, I've got a good song for tonight's work. Can't wait to bust it out!

Oh, Lord.

Passacaglia · 07-09-2008, 02:25 PM

Just PMed BK. I can guard the HQ unarmed.

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:25 PM

I might not be able to recharge though, since the hold is still damaged (meaning I couldn't get Crys out)

BK - can you confirm this?

path12 · 07-09-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Neither. I just don't feel the case for either of you is very strong right now. Too little to go on.

I suspect you're both good right now. Clap just seems like Clap to me so far and I think it bugged you that he accused you so you're reading more than is there into his statements.

path12 · 07-09-2008, 02:26 PM

BTW, I love this ruleset. Even though that damn slave riot really screwed things up.

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:26 PM

And just because I might be expendable doesn't mean you should lynch me. Why waste a lynch on a survivor and lose a scientist, who could come in quite handy in the future?

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I might not be able to recharge though, since the hold is still damaged (meaning I couldn't get Crys out)

BK - can you confirm this?

Ah. I bet you're right.

If that's the case, I think you should do the cleanup duty.

PurdueBrad · 07-09-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Oh, Lord.

Here's a preview:

I like big boxes and I don't know why
you other engineers just can't deny...

jeheinz72 · 07-09-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

I suspect you're both good right now. Clap just seems like Clap to me so far and I think it bugged you that he accused you so you're reading more than is there into his statements.

It definitely bugged me. Not being accused necessarily, just how vague/false he was.

I mean when I f-up, ala a few games back where I said I'd break the tie and didn't, I get the accusations. That's only fair/just. Here though, it just seemed to be out of nowhere in addition to the fact that I think engineers living to do work is very key.

But I get where both you and KWhit are coming from, hence why even I haven't voted for clap (yet). Even as a spawn, he can't fake all his work, and that might be valuable enough for now.

path12 · 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

And just because I might be expendable doesn't mean you should lynch me. Why waste a lynch on a survivor and lose a scientist, who could come in quite handy in the future?

Because we've got another one, being exhausted and wounded makes you less useful, and having been outside you could be infected. Do you have another candidate that might be more expendable?

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM

If people are leaning towards voting Packerfanatic for the lynch anyways, I am pretty sure that he should try to do cleanup duty -after- Schmidty does.. worst case he dies, and it sounds like some of you want that anyways. Might as well get something out of it in the process.

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Ah. I bet you're right.

If that's the case, I think you should do the cleanup duty.

Honestly? And risk me dying? I am probably right on the brink of that anyway, being exhausted AND wounded. If I was able to get a heal, I wouldn't mind going out tired, but I don't know if we have any medics left to heal me.

jeheinz72 · 07-09-2008, 02:29 PM

Did Marc Vaughan go on a Day One expedition?

path12 · 07-09-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Here's a preview:

I like big boxes and I don't know why
you other engineers just can't deny...

Catchy.

Passacaglia · 07-09-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Did Marc Vaughan go on a Day One expedition?

Maybe he believed me when I said we lynched him.

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Honestly? And risk me dying? I am probably right on the brink of that anyway, being exhausted AND wounded. If I was able to get a heal, I wouldn't mind going out tired, but I don't know if we have any medics left to heal me.

I would rather the medics heal security personal anyways. If you rest you should heal up (unless you have business to attend to at night of some kind)

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Did Marc Vaughan go on a Day One expedition?

No, I think he only went out on today's away mission.

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:30 PM

Does sleep heal a wound?

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Here's a preview:

I like big boxes and I don't know why
you other engineers just can't deny...

Sung to the tune of Ave Maria?

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Does sleep heal a wound?

Yes

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Status – Wounded

When an attack occurs, you never really know for sure who is going to win. Either party involved in an attack may end up WOUNDED.

It is impossible to tell with certainty if a wound was caused by Human or Spawn.

Someone who is wounded will have only a minor chance to know what attacked them.

A WOUNDED player is at a severe disadvantage against future attacks.

A player may choose to injure himself by PM’ing the GM. All wounds and healing of wounds will be announced publicly by the GM. A wound can be healed after two nights of undisturbed rest or by the doctor or medic. Undisturbed rest is defined as not taking an action (aside from the Spawn’s regular attack).

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM

Ah two nights sleep I see.

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM

(Just found it myself too, heh)

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Does sleep heal a wound?

Yes, 2 nights of sleep (in a row, I think).

jeheinz72 · 07-09-2008, 02:33 PM

Hrm, vote possibilities for me include PF, MV, Clap, No Lynch.

Barring new info, I can't see stepping outside of that group.

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

If people are leaning towards voting Packerfanatic for the lynch anyways, I am pretty sure that he should try to do cleanup duty -after- Schmidty does.. worst case he dies, and it sounds like some of you want that anyways. Might as well get something out of it in the process.

Why after Schmidty?

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Why after Schmidty?

Because if all of the security personal did their duty, Schmidty will have cleaned up the last of the slaves at little risk to the rest of the crew..

So sending packerfanatic out to round up slaves won't hurt him at all since there will be no slaves to round up.

Only if one of the security personal faked their action does Packer run into slaves.. so basically we're giving him value here to find us out that key piece of information if one of our security guards are suspect

Tyrith · 07-09-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Why after Schmidty?

Minimizes the risk of him getting killed because there's a good chance there'd be no one for him to fetch.

hoopsguy · 07-09-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Here's a preview:

I like big boxes and I don't know why
you other engineers just can't deny...

Just ... wow.

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Because if all of the security personal did their duty, Schmidty will have cleaned up the last of the slaves at little risk to the rest of the crew..

So sending packerfanatic out to round up slaves won't hurt him at all since there will be no slaves to round up.

Only if one of the security personal faked their action does Packer run into slaves.. so basically we're giving him value here to find us out that key piece of information if one of our security guards are suspect

That does make sense actually...

Tyrith · 07-09-2008, 02:37 PM

I'm not endorsing a bandwagon here. However, he's the most expendable it seems like and he's been outside. I don't like having to put this vote up this early but I don't have a choice -- I MIGHT make it back before the lynch if other things arise.

VOTE PACKERFANATIC

hoopsguy · 07-09-2008, 02:38 PM

OK, clearly I'm not doing all that good a job of playing catchup today, based on the answers to my last two questions.

Let's try a different tack to start working through votes today. Do we have a list of what the proclaimed actions were for each of the people who is exhausted today?

bulletsponge · 07-09-2008, 02:38 PM

hmm i should have healed up Kwit then. well live and learn. as for me im not sure who i will vote to hang. nobody really stands out as a spawn, and i dont like killing people who im not at least 50% positive is a wolf. i remember as a wolf i always liked lynches because its a fast way to clear out villagers without putting yourself in danger, so i never trust anyone who says we MUST have a lynch when there is no clear canidate for elimination besideds the weak ass " hes kinda expendable" excuse

Barkeep49 · 07-09-2008, 02:39 PM

"Schmidty my good man. So good to see you. I know you've been busy today, but would you take care of some of these slaves running around? They're causing quite a nuisance and it needs to end. Now," Captain Alan is overheard saying/order.

PurdueBrad · 07-09-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Can we get a list going of what all the exhausted people have done?

RendeR
Hoopsguy- guarded (?) sleeping quarters
Tyrith- worked overnight on the HQ
PurdueBrad- worked overnight on the HQ
Danny- worked overnight on the pens
JeHeinz- worked overnight on the pens
Oliegirl- guarded (?) sleeping quarters
Passacaglia- guarded the HQ
Schmidty- guarded the water
Mrs. Schmidty- guarded (?) the sleeping quarters
Packerfanatic
Bulletsponge

I filled in the ones I know. As for the question marks, I simply wasn't sure if that is what their action was. That leaves a couple people unaccounted for that I'm curious about their actions.

Here you go Hoops with this addition:

Packer said he couldn't find a bed to sleep and I'm not sure about Bullet or RendeR.

bulletsponge · 07-09-2008, 02:39 PM

dola No Lynch

PackerFanatic · 07-09-2008, 02:39 PM

Recharging a phaser is going to cost 1 crystilium, and will take 2 cycles of research before it can even be done (although LSG and I can research together - if I am even alive long enough to do that!)

saldana · 07-09-2008, 02:40 PM

i am really getting tired of PackerFan trying to use his wounded status as a reason why he shouldnt have to do anything...lots of people got wounded last night and none of them whined about it all day

i was probably gonna do this anyway, but the constant excuses about status pushed me over the limit
vote packerfanatic

KWhit · 07-09-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Because if all of the security personal did their duty, Schmidty will have cleaned up the last of the slaves at little risk to the rest of the crew..

So sending packerfanatic out to round up slaves won't hurt him at all since there will be no slaves to round up.

Only if one of the security personal faked their action does Packer run into slaves.. so basically we're giving him value here to find us out that key piece of information if one of our security guards are suspect

Yeah, I got all that. I thought your original post was saying that since people were thinking about lynching him, he should take his action after Schmidty. But it was less cause/effect than I read into your original statement.

Alan T · 07-09-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

hmm i should have healed up Kwit then. well live and learn. as for me im not sure who i will vote to hang. nobody really stands out as a spawn, and i dont like killing people who im not at least 50% positive is a wolf. i remember as a wolf i always liked lynches because its a fast way to clear out villagers without putting yourself in danger, so i never trust anyone who says we MUST have a lynch when there is no clear canidate for elimination besideds the weak ass " hes kinda expendable" excuse

I don't think kwhit needs to be healed either. He'll be in the brig and should be able to rest for two nights to heal up.

I think security personal should be healed

hoopsguy · 07-09-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Can we get a list going of what all the exhausted people have done?

RendeR
Hoopsguy- spied on Olie, can confirm she was spying last night
Tyrith- worked overnight on the HQ
PurdueBrad- worked overnight on the HQ
Danny- worked overnight on the pens
JeHeinz- worked overnight on the pens
Oliegirl- spied on Saldana (no night activity), fended off Slave
Passacaglia- guarded the HQ
Schmidty- guarded the water
Mrs. Schmidty- guarded (?) the sleeping quarters
Packerfanatic
Bulletsponge

I saw this from earlier and have updated it with information that I know (in bold).

bulletsponge · 07-09-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Here you go Hoops with this addition:

Packer said he couldn't find a bed to sleep and I'm not sure about Bullet or RendeR.

i couldnt find a bed also

07-09-2008, 02:25 PM	#1212
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I might not be able to recharge though, since the hold is still damaged (meaning I couldn't get Crys out) BK - can you confirm this? __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-09-2008, 02:26 PM	#1214
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	BTW, I love this ruleset. Even though that damn slave riot really screwed things up. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-09-2008, 02:26 PM	#1215
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	And just because I might be expendable doesn't mean you should lynch me. Why waste a lynch on a survivor and lose a scientist, who could come in quite handy in the future? __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-09-2008, 02:30 PM	#1227
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Does sleep heal a wound? __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-09-2008, 02:31 PM	#1230
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Ah two nights sleep I see. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-09-2008, 02:21 PM	#1204
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	IIRC they had no idea how much Crys it took. I would actually double-up the slave clean-up, to cover for a fake OR in case Packer fails.

07-09-2008, 02:21 PM	#1205
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	path's vote kind of mirrors my own thinking right now. I'm pretty sure I'm either going to vote for Packer or for Telle right now, but I think it's too early for the Telle vote -- I'd like to get at least one more mission out of her, if not more, and might be a good candidate for a clear in the near future.

07-09-2008, 02:22 PM	#1208
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Path, I've got a good song for tonight's work. Can't wait to bust it out!

07-09-2008, 02:25 PM	#1211
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Just PMed BK. I can guard the HQ unarmed.

07-09-2008, 02:28 PM	#1220
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	If people are leaning towards voting Packerfanatic for the lynch anyways, I am pretty sure that he should try to do cleanup duty -after- Schmidty does.. worst case he dies, and it sounds like some of you want that anyways. Might as well get something out of it in the process.

07-09-2008, 02:29 PM	#1222
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Did Marc Vaughan go on a Day One expedition?

07-09-2008, 02:31 PM	#1231
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	(Just found it myself too, heh) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-09-2008, 02:33 PM	#1233
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Hrm, vote possibilities for me include PF, MV, Clap, No Lynch. Barring new info, I can't see stepping outside of that group.

07-09-2008, 02:37 PM	#1239
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	I'm not endorsing a bandwagon here. However, he's the most expendable it seems like and he's been outside. I don't like having to put this vote up this early but I don't have a choice -- I MIGHT make it back before the lynch if other things arise. VOTE PACKERFANATIC

07-09-2008, 02:38 PM	#1240
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, clearly I'm not doing all that good a job of playing catchup today, based on the answers to my last two questions. Let's try a different tack to start working through votes today. Do we have a list of what the proclaimed actions were for each of the people who is exhausted today?

07-09-2008, 02:38 PM	#1241
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	hmm i should have healed up Kwit then. well live and learn. as for me im not sure who i will vote to hang. nobody really stands out as a spawn, and i dont like killing people who im not at least 50% positive is a wolf. i remember as a wolf i always liked lynches because its a fast way to clear out villagers without putting yourself in danger, so i never trust anyone who says we MUST have a lynch when there is no clear canidate for elimination besideds the weak ass " hes kinda expendable" excuse

07-09-2008, 02:39 PM	#1242
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	"Schmidty my good man. So good to see you. I know you've been busy today, but would you take care of some of these slaves running around? They're causing quite a nuisance and it needs to end. Now," Captain Alan is overheard saying/order.

07-09-2008, 02:39 PM	#1244
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	dola No Lynch

07-09-2008, 02:39 PM	#1245
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Recharging a phaser is going to cost 1 crystilium, and will take 2 cycles of research before it can even be done (although LSG and I can research together - if I am even alive long enough to do that!) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-09-2008, 02:40 PM	#1246
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i am really getting tired of PackerFan trying to use his wounded status as a reason why he shouldnt have to do anything...lots of people got wounded last night and none of them whined about it all day i was probably gonna do this anyway, but the constant excuses about status pushed me over the limit vote packerfanatic

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