Werewolf 40,000: The Horus Heresy CHAOS DEFEATED; MUTANTS SURVIVE - Page 11

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:17 PM

Dola, im waiting on 2 people to comment on this situation...i dont want to come out till they do, but neither are on so im conflicted on what to do.

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:18 PM

I'll make this easy for everyone. Saldana is 100% good.

So if he says something about Blade, believe him and vote blade.

You all made a mistake that hurt us yesterday with the vote. Don't make a mistake today. Vote Blade and it will open things up for us. There is no possible end game Wolf strategy that Saldana would start on day 2. This is an easy decision. Vote blade.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

I find it interesting that you revealed this information now.

You will find it more interesting when you hear what happened last night that i WAS involved in

twothree · 08-30-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

dola, why do you not mention talking to alan at all? your role shouldnt allow that on top of spy, so what happened?

Saldana and AlanT's stories do not match up very well. Something is very wrong here.

SirFozzie · 08-30-2006, 02:19 PM

Roles: the head of the Navigators Guild (which travels in the Warp, the stuff of Chaos) vs The Lord Commander Millitant of the Imperial Guard

Both have reasons to be converted/bad guys. This should be interesting.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

Saldana and AlanT's stories do not match up very well. Something is very wrong here.

Im pretty sure i know what happened too, but im wondering why its saldana and alan, and not the 2 i have evidence on.

twothree · 08-30-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I'll make this easy for everyone. Saldana is 100% good.

So if he says something about Blade, believe him and vote blade.

You all made a mistake that hurt us yesterday with the vote. Don't make a mistake today. Vote Blade and it will open things up for us. There is no possible end game Wolf strategy that Saldana would start on day 2. This is an easy decision. Vote blade.

Now I don't trust you at all. I believe blade. Everyone vote Saldana.

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

Now I don't trust you at all. I believe blade. Everyone vote Saldana.

What will you do when you vote Saldana and he turns up good just like my pm told me he was?

twothree · 08-30-2006, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im pretty sure i know what happened too, but im wondering why its saldana and alan, and not the 2 i have evidence on.

One group could be chaos. The other group could be mutants. ?

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:22 PM

I'm waiting for blade's story. Why would he have to wait for 2 other people?

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

What will you do when you vote Saldana and he turns up good just like my pm told me he was?

What will you do when i come up clean? You said he came to you, he said you came to him. Then he spied on someone, but doesnt know who, who met with me out of my house, and converted me.

SirFozzie · 08-30-2006, 02:23 PM

This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Alan T just put his neck out on the chopping block with Saldana, which does help his side, because considering the low amount of bad guys in different groups (remember, there's two sets of bad guys, really), it would be a nearly suicidal play to put TWO members out at risk this early.

The only way it would work, is if all three (Blade, Saldana and Alan) were bad guys, and no matter who wins this fight, the others have some cachet as the ones who exposed a bad guy.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm waiting for blade's story. Why would he have to wait for 2 other people?

Becuase what i know happened last night involves 2 other people, neither of which is on right now. A meeting occured, but i dont know to what ends. Hence why im hesitant to reveal, as if their both good then i have screwed us bad in costing us 2 other villagers, on top of myself who will inevitably be lynched

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

What will you do when i come up clean? You said he came to you, he said you came to him. Then he spied on someone, but doesnt know who, who met with me out of my house, and converted me.

I honestly don't know anything about you or what you did last night. I do know however that Saldana is on the Emperor's side. So whatever he is up to, I assume to be good.

bulletsponge · 08-30-2006, 02:25 PM

ohh crap, this happens every game and i always choose the wrong side. most of the time the 2 sides are both villagers

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

ohh crap, this happens every game and i always choose the wrong side. most of the time the 2 sides are both villagers

I can gurantee you this is not the case. I WAS NOT OUT LAST NIGHT, so him saying i met someone is a lie. Now, i didnt say i wansnt involved in the night actions, so dont take it the wrong way

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

where is the gain in this for me to be lying.

The villagers lose a rather useful power...

saldana · 08-30-2006, 02:27 PM

alan, would you care to clarify that our meeting was a result of your role, not mine, so that blade can stop trying to use the angle that i couldnt do two things against us.

as fozzie just pointed out, alan and i would have to be retards to both out ourselves like this today. trading two of us to try and get blade lynched would be idiotic if we were bad guys.

where is the gain in this for me to be lying.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:28 PM

for some reason my reply to 518 in in post 517...so look up there

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

alan, would you care to clarify that our meeting was a result of your role, not mine, so that blade can stop trying to use the angle that i couldnt do two things against us.

as fozzie just pointed out, alan and i would have to be retards to both out ourselves like this today. trading two of us to try and get blade lynched would be idiotic if we were bad guys.

where is the gain in this for me to be lying.

Well, it was crazy for realdeal to out himself, but that didn't stop you from leading everyone to lynch him.

SirFozzie · 08-30-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

for some reason my reply to 518 in in post 517...so look up there

The reason, of course is FUCKING TIMESTAMP BUG.

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:31 PM

Alan and saldana's story sounds fishy, but blade is acting weird too.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Alan and saldana's story sounds fishy, but blade is acting weird too.

If you had information that could easily save yourself, yet would damn 2 people of which you are not sure if they are good or evil, would you use it?

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

alan, would you care to clarify that our meeting was a result of your role, not mine, so that blade can stop trying to use the angle that i couldnt do two things against us.

as fozzie just pointed out, alan and i would have to be retards to both out ourselves like this today. trading two of us to try and get blade lynched would be idiotic if we were bad guys.

where is the gain in this for me to be lying.

Saldana is right, it was my role and not his. I can't really explain fully how my role works, but I should attract others who follow our faith. I enforce the emperor's divinity among the masses. I don't know if its an every day thing, every other, or random thing.

Whats important here is that I was told Saldana follows our emperor 100%. THats good enough for me here, and I urge everyone to not side against him.

twothree · 08-30-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

alan, would you care to clarify that our meeting was a result of your role, not mine, so that blade can stop trying to use the angle that i couldnt do two things against us.

as fozzie just pointed out, alan and i would have to be retards to both out ourselves like this today. trading two of us to try and get blade lynched would be idiotic if we were bad guys.

where is the gain in this for me to be lying.

This situation is spiraling out of control and I won't be able to change my vote before they are tallied. But even if it gets me killed tonight, I will say this my role allows me to know that Blade is NOT chaos or a mutant and should be fully trusted.

I hope blade can present his evidence later.

Now, I will probably be dead come morning. It was fun but I got to run. (to work)

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

This situation is spiraling out of control and I won't be able to change my vote before they are tallied. But even if it gets me killed tonight, I will say this my role allows me to know that Blade is NOT chaos or a mutant and should be fully trusted.

I hope blade can present his evidence later.

Now, I will probably be dead come morning. It was fun but I got to run. (to work)

Now it gets more fun...i dont know twothree or his role, but hes on the right side of this argument

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

This situation is spiraling out of control and I won't be able to change my vote before they are tallied. But even if it gets me killed tonight, I will say this my role allows me to know that Blade is NOT chaos or a mutant and should be fully trusted.

I hope blade can present his evidence later.

Now, I will probably be dead come morning. It was fun but I got to run. (to work)

So basically you are saying you have the same role as me or one that is similar? lol

SirFozzie · 08-30-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by twothree

This situation is spiraling out of control and I won't be able to change my vote before they are tallied. But even if it gets me killed tonight, I will say this my role allows me to know that Blade is NOT chaos or a mutant and should be fully trusted.

I hope blade can present his evidence later.

Now, I will probably be dead come morning. It was fun but I got to run. (to work)

2-2.

Guys, I think we have a chaos v Mutant slapfight going on.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:35 PM

Twothree's role=

The Master of the Astronomican is repsonsible for the huge galactic monitoring device known as the Astronomican. Allegedly built by the Emperor himself, the Astronomican registers activity in the Warp that may precursor any activity by Chaos. As such, it is perhaps humanity's most important weapon in the fight against the daemon entities.

SO alan and saldana, how do you counter this? Now your whole it would be crazy for 2 to come out is moot...what else you got while we wait for our other 2 pieces in this puzzle to show

SirFozzie · 08-30-2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

So basically you are saying you have the same role as me or one that is similar? lol

To be fair, Alan, there's several roles who could have that kind of power.

bulletsponge · 08-30-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

If you had information that could easily save yourself, yet would damn 2 people of which you are not sure if they are good or evil, would you use it?

you mentioned last game you would do such a thing

BrianD · 08-30-2006, 02:37 PM

So we've got Saldana and Alan T against Blade and twothree? This is going to get very messy before it is all over.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

you mentioned last game you would do such a thing

Ya, and we lost last game when path and i revealed out COT and it ended up getting each and every member killed.

They could be bad, i just know for a fact one person went to another persons house last night, and was there for a long time.

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Twothree's role=

The Master of the Astronomican is repsonsible for the huge galactic monitoring device known as the Astronomican. Allegedly built by the Emperor himself, the Astronomican registers activity in the Warp that may precursor any activity by Chaos. As such, it is perhaps humanity's most important weapon in the fight against the daemon entities.

SO alan and saldana, how do you counter this? Now your whole it would be crazy for 2 to come out is moot...what else you got while we wait for our other 2 pieces in this puzzle to show

I said what I had to say. I can't say anything about what you were up to last night Blade. You are the one being quiet about that. I already said all i know. Saldana completely believes in the emperor which is the extent of what my role allows me to know.

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

If you had information that could easily save yourself, yet would damn 2 people of which you are not sure if they are good or evil, would you use it?

I don't know. Whenever I reveal something that happened at night, everyone votes against me.

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Ya, and we lost last game when path and i revealed out COT and it ended up getting each and every member killed.

They could be bad, i just know for a fact one person went to another persons house last night, and was there for a long time.

You said you did not leave your house last night. So how do you know one person went to someone else's house? Looking out your window?

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

2-2.

Guys, I think we have a chaos v Mutant slapfight going on.

2-2-2 when i drop the other 2 names...if i was bad, i would just counter and say it was alan and saldana who met, but it wasnt. One of the two i can damn should be easily able to confirm my story(which, i know, i havent shared) as he interacted with my role to some extent.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

You said you did not leave your house last night. So how do you know one person went to someone else's house? Looking out your window?

We are an empire, in a sector of our own planets, in the very distant future with aliens and incredible technology. Not everything must be done in person my friend

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

You said you did not leave your house last night. So how do you know one person went to someone else's house? Looking out your window?

We are an empire, in a sector of our own planets, in the very distant future with aliens and incredible technology. Not everything must be done in person my friend

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:40 PM

Can i delete one of those duplicate posts, or no?

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Can i delete one of those duplicate posts, or no?

Use your incredible technology from the very distant future to delete it.

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Can i delete one of those duplicate posts, or no?

Just like a paperpusher to do everything in duplicate!

bulletsponge · 08-30-2006, 02:42 PM

im getting the feeling that there might be 4 villagers trying to kill each other right now. Alan and Saldana didnt say they saw Blade doing anything other than meeting someone, not converting or doing nafariuos deeds.

Blade there is no way you were out last night? if you did a night order you could have been out?

i just find it very hard to believe that wolves would vouch for someone so early knowing that if a villager gets lynched because of them that they would be next on the list

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

im getting the feeling that there might be 4 villagers trying to kill each other right now. Alan and Saldana didnt say they saw Blade doing anything other than meeting someone, not converting or doing nafariuos deeds.

Blade there is no way you were out last night? if you did a night order you could have been out?

i just find it very hard to believe that wolves would vouch for someone so early knowing that if a villager gets lynched because of them that they would be next on the list

You are quite trusting for an assassin type. Usually assassins trust noone.

Alan T · 08-30-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

im getting the feeling that there might be 4 villagers trying to kill each other right now. Alan and Saldana didnt say they saw Blade doing anything other than meeting someone, not converting or doing nafariuos deeds.

Blade there is no way you were out last night? if you did a night order you could have been out?

i just find it very hard to believe that wolves would vouch for someone so early knowing that if a villager gets lynched because of them that they would be next on the list

Well like I said, I dont know anything about Blade. When Saldana made his post, I didnt react completely. It was only when Blade came out denying it and calling Saldana Chaos which I knew him not to be that I felt Blade was fishy.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

im getting the feeling that there might be 4 villagers trying to kill each other right now. Alan and Saldana didnt say they saw Blade doing anything other than meeting someone, not converting or doing nafariuos deeds.

Blade there is no way you were out last night? if you did a night order you could have been out?

i just find it very hard to believe that wolves would vouch for someone so early knowing that if a villager gets lynched because of them that they would be next on the list

It possible, maybe, but only if i met with multiple people. He said i met with 1, so i dont find it likely. This was at the beginning of the night as well, before the other 2 interacted. At the end of the night, i recieved my information via comlink so i know i didnt meet anyone then

saldana · 08-30-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

2-2-2 when i drop the other 2 names...if i was bad, i would just counter and say it was alan and saldana who met, but it wasnt. One of the two i can damn should be easily able to confirm my story(which, i know, i havent shared) as he interacted with my role to some extent.

ok, blade, twothree's support of you is interesting, so i will say this....if its going to be 2-2-2 and you can damn one of them, i can be swayed from you, if you evidence is valid.....i said i believe you were converted....convince me that you werent.

Blade6119 · 08-30-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

ok, blade, twothree's support of you is interesting, so i will say this....if its going to be 2-2-2 and you can damn one of them, i can be swayed from you, if you evidence is valid.....i said i believe you were converted....convince me that you werent.

You said you saw me meet with one person, which i am 99.9% sure was impossible due to my use of comlinks. I can damn both of them, but by damn i can say i know one went to the others house and was there for most of the night. I dont know if they are both good, so i am quite afraid to reveal and help you and your friends pick off what could possibly be a secret COT forming. You have been caught in a lie, and id like to see how my 2 players from last night say what happened before i drop my info.

Fouts · 08-30-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

It possible, maybe, but only if i met with multiple people. He said i met with 1, so i dont find it likely. This was at the beginning of the night as well, before the other 2 interacted. At the end of the night, i recieved my information via comlink so i know i didnt meet anyone then

comlink LOL

bulletsponge · 08-30-2006, 02:49 PM

ok, i think Blade overreacted to Saldanas assertion that he met someone when he accused saldana of being a chaos. im betting all 4, Blade, 23, Saldana and Alan are most likely good so i wont vote for any right now. all those who work to uphold the empire should think hard before killing one of them because this sounds like many Villager vs Villager lynch orgies that are common

08-30-2006, 02:17 PM	#501
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Dola, im waiting on 2 people to comment on this situation...i dont want to come out till they do, but neither are on so im conflicted on what to do. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-30-2006, 02:19 PM	#505
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Roles: the head of the Navigators Guild (which travels in the Warp, the stuff of Chaos) vs The Lord Commander Millitant of the Imperial Guard Both have reasons to be converted/bad guys. This should be interesting. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

08-30-2006, 02:23 PM	#512
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	This is getting curiouser and curiouser. Alan T just put his neck out on the chopping block with Saldana, which does help his side, because considering the low amount of bad guys in different groups (remember, there's two sets of bad guys, really), it would be a nearly suicidal play to put TWO members out at risk this early. The only way it would work, is if all three (Blade, Saldana and Alan) were bad guys, and no matter who wins this fight, the others have some cachet as the ones who exposed a bad guy. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

08-30-2006, 02:28 PM	#519
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	for some reason my reply to 518 in in post 517...so look up there __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-30-2006, 02:35 PM	#529
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Twothree's role= The Master of the Astronomican is repsonsible for the huge galactic monitoring device known as the Astronomican. Allegedly built by the Emperor himself, the Astronomican registers activity in the Warp that may precursor any activity by Chaos. As such, it is perhaps humanity's most important weapon in the fight against the daemon entities. SO alan and saldana, how do you counter this? Now your whole it would be crazy for 2 to come out is moot...what else you got while we wait for our other 2 pieces in this puzzle to show __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-30-2006, 02:18 PM	#502
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I'll make this easy for everyone. Saldana is 100% good. So if he says something about Blade, believe him and vote blade. You all made a mistake that hurt us yesterday with the vote. Don't make a mistake today. Vote Blade and it will open things up for us. There is no possible end game Wolf strategy that Saldana would start on day 2. This is an easy decision. Vote blade.

08-30-2006, 02:22 PM	#510
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	I'm waiting for blade's story. Why would he have to wait for 2 other people?

08-30-2006, 02:25 PM	#515
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ohh crap, this happens every game and i always choose the wrong side. most of the time the 2 sides are both villagers

08-30-2006, 02:27 PM	#518
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	alan, would you care to clarify that our meeting was a result of your role, not mine, so that blade can stop trying to use the angle that i couldnt do two things against us. as fozzie just pointed out, alan and i would have to be retards to both out ourselves like this today. trading two of us to try and get blade lynched would be idiotic if we were bad guys. where is the gain in this for me to be lying.

08-30-2006, 02:31 PM	#522
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Alan and saldana's story sounds fishy, but blade is acting weird too.

08-30-2006, 02:37 PM	#532
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	So we've got Saldana and Alan T against Blade and twothree? This is going to get very messy before it is all over.

08-30-2006, 02:40 PM	#540
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	Can i delete one of those duplicate posts, or no? __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

08-30-2006, 02:42 PM	#543
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	im getting the feeling that there might be 4 villagers trying to kill each other right now. Alan and Saldana didnt say they saw Blade doing anything other than meeting someone, not converting or doing nafariuos deeds. Blade there is no way you were out last night? if you did a night order you could have been out? i just find it very hard to believe that wolves would vouch for someone so early knowing that if a villager gets lynched because of them that they would be next on the list

08-30-2006, 02:49 PM	#550
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ok, i think Blade overreacted to Saldanas assertion that he met someone when he accused saldana of being a chaos. im betting all 4, Blade, 23, Saldana and Alan are most likely good so i wont vote for any right now. all those who work to uphold the empire should think hard before killing one of them because this sounds like many Villager vs Villager lynch orgies that are common

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