Official 2024 College Football Thread

[BishopMVP]

Wow. I actually wanted to kick the FG instead of go for that one (yes still a 2 score game but I like 13 with a chance to be 16 with even another later FG so much more than 10.) Interesting way it played out but I'll take that. Not a big transfer team outside the 1 year rental QB's but they're all showing up tonight (K, KR, Beaux Collins, Ryan Clark's kid)

[HerRealName]

Georgia getting a friendly whistle after the Texas game yesterday has the conspiracies buzzing.

[Kodos]

That penalty was bogus.

[HerRealName]

I just looked it up, Big 12 refs

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Georgia getting a friendly whistle after the Texas game yesterday has the conspiracies buzzing.

I thought ND got a couple breaks early too, but yes some rough calls back to back. Can't complain too much on that one, Kizer never looks back and does make contact before the ball hits him but badly underthrown. Would just really really love to know what's going on before they cut away to commercial.... even if I'm sure moving the ball up 2 yards was right in the end. It's back to being like the start, I want to see these teams play football not 3 minute breaks every other play.

(Edit - if you guys were talking about the Faison motion one I agree, but I also wanted to take the 3 there even if still technically a 2 score game, 13 not 10 is also the reason Georgia had to go for 4th & long and even if they score a TD here another FG puts us back up 2 scores again.)

[HerRealName]

The illegal shift call was so bad it caused me physical pain. The DPI was pretty questionable on that underthrown pass too. It just seems like a flag flies any time Georgia needs it - delay of game, holding, DPI, illegal shift.

[sovereignstar v2]

Lol

[Kodos]

That was pretty cool by ND there.

[BishopMVP]

Never saw a replay on the delay of game, I think ND may have moved early or it's one of those they messed with the Center? Again would love more replays before cutting to commercials. It's a few 50/50 or 60/40 calls going against us in a row but even that replay overturn of the spot if I'm honest he was short, and it was a bad pass but technically Kizer never looks back and does make contact before it hits him at waist level, sucks but I get it.

What a fucking play call and job by Leonard, wonder if we would have snapped it if they didn't jump, hope not but let's fucking goooooo.

[miami_fan]

What would have happened if Georgia just walked the defense back on the field? The offense has to wait for the defense to make subs in that situation. Is there a time frame for the defensive subs?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Never saw a replay on the delay of game, I think ND may have moved early or it's one of those they messed with the Center? Again would love more replays before cutting to commercials. It's a few 50/50 or 60/40 calls going against us in a row but even that replay overturn of the spot if I'm honest he was short, and it was a bad pass but technically Kizer never looks back and does make contact before it hits him at waist level, sucks but I get it.

What a fucking play call and job by Leonard, wonder if we would have snapped it if they didn't jump, hope not but let's fucking goooooo.

He looked surprised to get the ball so I wonder if the center was told to snap it if someone jumps and he just snapped it.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

What would have happened if Georgia just walked the defense back on the field? The offense has to wait for the defense to make subs in that situation. Is there a time frame for the defensive subs?

Bielema set the example for the rest of the college football world. I was shocked Georgia ran out there so fast.

[GrantDawg]

I'm sure that is the case. And he was heads up enough to take the shot down field on the free play. Well done all around. The more disciplined team won.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The more disciplined team won.

The clown play on the ND punt block unit not withstanding

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I have a bad feeling -- though not surprised -- that Georgia basically has a bye to the semis, if not to the finals themselves.

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Georgia will beat the living hell out of ND even with their backup QB.

[Atocep]

I'm not sure I could hand pick 4 teams I dislike more for the semifinals. Pitt and Virginia Tech are missing, but out of realistic teams this is pretty much it.

[Ghost Econ]

All teams with byes lost

[bronconick]

Conference Champs 0-5, teams with byes 0-4.

[sovereignstar v2]

ASU didn't lose. They were screwed

[JonInMiddleGA]

And with that done, I can now let the worst season in college football history play itself out without the slightest damn given about who wins or loses.

CFB had a good run for most of my lifetime, there's really nothing much left in it for me except a few teams/individuals to hate

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Georgia will beat the living hell out of ND even with their backup QB.

You were saying?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Kodos

You were saying?

Didn't anticipate Georgia being THAT flat. Stockton and a DL or two were pretty much the only players that seemed all that interested.

Maybe some NIL checks were late, who knows.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

Bielema set the example for the rest of the college football world. I was shocked Georgia ran out there so fast.

What did Bielma do?

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

ESPN actively bashing the B1G now.

I’m sure they’re being fair now and bashing the SEC. Right?

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Didn't anticipate Georgia being THAT flat. Stockton and a DL or two were pretty much the only players that seemed all that interested.

Maybe some NIL checks were late, who knows.

If you can’t get motivated in the playoffs, maybe you shouldn’t be playing football. I hear that excuse for SEC teams in bowls all the time. It really doesn’t hold up in a playoff. Maybe the SEC just ain’t that great. I mean, Georgia wasn't even playing in a hostile environment and didn't fare much better than Indiana did.

[RainMaker]

Under the old BCS system, Oregon and Georgia would have played for the National Championship.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by miami_fan

What did Bielma do?

He did exactly what you suggested. Every time South Carolina subbed on offense, Illinois would send in a couple of defensive subs in slow, slow motion. Bielema basically trolled Beamer for 60 minutes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Maybe the SEC just ain’t that great.

We're not going to see "great" anymore in the pay to play wide open free agency era. That ship has sailed.

Nobody has any depth, there's a serious shortage of heart with primarily mercs for hire.

Ohio State is the only team with a ceiling high enough to even be solidly very good and even they could lose to anybody remaining.

[sovereignstar v2]

If there is no place for a southeastern team in college football's final four then I'm just going to take my ball and go home

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by HerRealName

He did exactly what you suggested. Every time South Carolina subbed on offense, Illinois would send in a couple of defensive subs in slow, slow motion. Bielema basically trolled Beamer for 60 minutes.

Ohhhh! I am guessing why the "Beamer goes after Bielma" headlines were all over the place.

Seems an appropriate response though. If you have to give me time to make subs in those situations and there is no time frame for my defensive subs, why am I rushing?

[sovereignstar v2]

Bielma-Beamer thing had to do with some signal that VT didn't use during a kickoff. Something called a t-bar I guess

[Solecismic]

There is far more random in the results of a sporting event between halfway comparable opposing teams than most people are comfortable contemplating.

I hope this season's results effectively illustrate the absurdity of defining a ranking structure almost solely based on a team's losses. No other sport does this.

[GrantDawg]

I think it shows the absurdity of the old systems. Everyone is basically crowning Ohio State that would have been out in any previous system. Notre Dame more than likely would have been left out as well. Putting good teams together to play it out is winning over the old "let the sport's writers determine the winner" by far.


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[JPhillips]

I still think we're searching for objectivity in a subjective system. How is OSU obviously better when they are 1-1 against Oregon? I accept that we're getting objective answers to who wins in the tournament, but that's a different thing than who was the best team for the entirety of the season.

[GrantDawg]

Who was the best team of the NBA the entire season? The NFL? MLB?

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

If there is no place for a southeastern team in college football's final four then I'm just going to take my ball and go home

If that's for me, you haven't been paying attention.

I've said pretty much the same thing I typed above all season, questioned putting Tenn in a playoff, derided their presence (and discussion about Bama & Ole Miss) as being among the surest signs that a playoff this size is idiotic ... and have lamented the demise of consistent quality football for weeks upon weeks.

I mean hell, Georgia lacked effort at times through the year and any consistent offensive threat all season. Vols had a promising QB but one that had no chemistry with any receiver on the roster. Ole Miss? GTFO outta here. And if I'm allowed to go out of the SEC and include another team I have vested interest in then Miami was a playoff participation contender ... did you see that team play? C'mon.

[GrantDawg]

New England won 18 games in 2007. The Giants were the Champions. How could they be the champions when they lost 6 game and the Patriots only lost one?

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

New England won 18 games in 2007. The Giants were the Champions. How could they be the champions when they lost 6 game and the Patriots only lost one?

In a league I haven't given a fuck about in years, beyond just the pop culture aspect of it.

I know that Golden State had a good run in the NBA too but I don't actually give a fuck either.

[JPhillips]

In all your examples, and I'll add college basketball, we've decided to honor the winner of the post-season tournament. I get it, but the regular season games don't matter so long as you make the tournament, especially as the tournament size is expanded.

I don't care or think it's really possible to get a national champion when most teams don't play each other. I'm fine with honoring conference champions and leaving out the rest. I get that most people wouldn't accept that system.

[GrantDawg]

Regular season is how you make the tournament. How are you going to have a tournament without a regular season? Without all the teams playing each other, you have two ways to determine a championship. Tournament or vibes. You want vibes, but I think that is silly, and every other league agrees.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Regular season is how you make the tournament. How are you going to have a tournament without a regular season? Without all the teams playing each other, you have two ways to determine a championship. Tournament or vibes. You want vibes, but I think that is silly, and every other league agrees.

I'm an absolute believer in the eye test among similarly accomplished (on paper) opponents. And the sport was far superior in pretty much every respect when that was the case.

What's left, at this point, is frankly pretty fucking bad.

[JPhillips]

No, I don't think it's possible to have a full season championship and any method is measuring something other than that be it a tournament or vibes. I'm fine with conference championships and bowl games being the end and there being no national champion.

[dubb93]

The SEC and to a lesser extent the B1G being exposed a bit has broken some of you. We are going to get a real national champion for maybe the first time ever. I mean I’d argue we got a real one most of the years we had a four team tournament with the exception of last year, but I’m not really sure why everyone seems so mad that highly ranked B1G and SEC are getting beat. Calm down. We are going to get a real national champion this year.

[GrantDawg]

Thank God you are the minority. I just watched my team lose, but I would still prefer them to have played this game than play in some meaningless bowl.

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

No, I don't think it's possible to have a full season championship and any method is measuring something other than that be it a tournament or vibes. I'm fine with conference championships and bowl games being the end and there being no national champion.

Enjoyed the BCS and the arguments over who was better. With a 12 game season and 130+ teams a playoff doesn't do much for me. I'm watching the games but I though the old system was much more interesting.

[Kodos]

I prefer the playoff. More teams get a real shot and results are determined on the field. The format can improve, but the idea is right. Oregon got hosed having to play a team like Ohio State this early. They were likely to eventually get whipped by Ohio State, but it should have been later. The top 4 conference champs automatically getting the top 4 seeds is a flaw. Rank the top 12 teams (or 14 or 16 or 8), then set up the bracket with 1 v 12, 2 v 11, 3 v 10, etc, and reseed after each round. All games played at home of higher seed, except for the championship game. That gets played at the site of one of the top 3 or 4 bowl games on a rotating basis.

Away teams should get X% of tickets for each game. Maybe 30%? So home team has an advantage, but not as big as we saw in the first round.

[dubb93]

I’m just really confused by some of you all.

I liked the BCS(or the eyeball):

Oregon vs Georgia (neither made it to the final four)

I liked the old playoff system:

Basically the old BCS. Oregon vs Penn State and Georgia vs Texas. Basically the SEC and B1G championship games again.

[Solecismic]

So far, the major conferences against each other:

SEC 20-10, B10 12-10, B12 7-11, ACC 10-18.

Notre Dame is really good, but we've been defining them by the Northern Illinois loss rather than their accumulated record.

I think the playoffs are a good idea. What I don't like are varied conference schedules and conference championship games - especially with tie-breakers that depend entirely on varied conference schedules.

We accept baseball champions with 70 losses. The pennant used to mean something over 162 games. Can't do that with football, obviously. But I think one of the many problems that has led baseball to shed its pastime moniker is that it made the regular season almost meaningless.

I don't see any way to preserve the notion that 130 schools of varied sizes and budgets and brand reputations should keep playing each other. The sooner they realize this, the better.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I think it shows the absurdity of the old systems. Everyone is basically crowning Ohio State that would have been out in any previous system. Notre Dame more than likely would have been left out as well. Putting good teams together to play it out is winning over the old "let the sport's writers determine the winner" by far.

Yeah I'm with you win or lose today. I'm also with JimGA there are never going to be 12 teams who "deserve" it and there is no elite one this year outside OSU when Ryan Day isn't being an idiot and trying to run it into Mason Graham and Kenneth Grant to prove he's tough or something, but I think there were 6 teams who deserved a shot at the title and 4 of them are left even if NIL and the portal do make it feel more transactional. If we had a couple blowouts along the way who cares, did under the old system too, and I don't mind staying with 12 or going to 16, but people acting shocked "all 4 bye teams lost" are hilarious to me - they were all dogs! 12 games simply isn't enough to accurately tell who are the 4 best among 130 teams (or 65ish if you want to use P4+ Notre Dame)

Who didn't want to see Charles Woodson's Michigan team vs Nebraska, or that Cadillac Williams/Ronnie Brown Auburn team, or the undefeated Boise State team that knocked off Oklahoma, or even last year's 13-0 FSU get a chance on the field? The new system has massive flaws but the old one sucked.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

12 games simply isn't enough to accurately tell who are the 4 best among 130 teams (or 65ish if you want to use P4+ Notre Dame)

That's the part I call bullshit on. 10 games was plenty enough frankly.