The NFL will be gone in 10 years ..

A-Husker-4-Life · 01-29-2014, 08:34 AM

This is sad but I see more of these coming down the line.. Enjoy the NFL while we have it.

Former Detroit Lions RB Jahvid Best suing NFL, helmet maker - ESPN

Blackadar · 01-29-2014, 08:38 AM

Former Detroit Lions RB Jahvid Best suing NFL, helmet maker - ESPN

Jahvid Best suing the NFL and Riddell for money in case he has long-term concussion damage.

I don't think he'll have much of a case, especially against the NFL. He had two concussions prior to entering the NFL and he won't be able to prove that any potential long-term damage wasn't done prior to his entry into the NFL. His claim that the NFL "allowed" him to get drafted will fall flat because he declared and had the NFL not allowed him to participate, he could have sued them for that.

His suit against Riddell is going to be a little trickier but again I don't see it succeeding. He'd have to prove that he only used Riddell products during his entire football career and that the helmets were faulty because they didn't prevent concussions in football. Considering that's an unobtainable bar to achieve, I don't think that goes anywhere either.

It appears he got paid about $6m from 2010 to 2012. I don't have much sympathy - you shouldn't need any more money for long-term care. Here's hoping this shit gets tossed out.

mrtourette · 01-29-2014, 08:38 AM

The NFL isn't going anywhere.

Lathum · 01-29-2014, 08:55 AM

anytime there is a rule change for player safety someone is going to start shouting about the pussification of the NFL and how it is going to ruin the sport.

I think the sport is going to be ruined by head trauma if they can't make it safer. 10 years ago I would have loved if I had a son who played football, now I don't think I would even allow it, and certainly not encourage it.

Not to mention someone dying on the field or in the locker room would be pretty bad for the league.

panerd · 01-29-2014, 08:56 AM

I like how he is going to be a coach on a college football team. After football ruined his life he is going to make money ruining other people's lives.

molson · 01-29-2014, 09:06 AM

We need to make a list of everything that is going to be gone forever soon according to FOFC posters.

-The NFL
-College Athletics

OK, not much of a list. I think I'm missing something.

albionmoonlight · 01-29-2014, 09:07 AM

The NFL will not go away. Will it lose importance relative to other forms of entertainment over time? Possibly. Horse racing and boxing are still around, but not nearly as popular as they used to be.

Kodos · 01-29-2014, 09:08 AM

Lotta doomsayers recently.

molson · 01-29-2014, 09:10 AM

And as to the merits of this, the NFL recently settled a concussion lawsuit that covered thousands of players, many decades, and a huge track record of completely ignoring - possibly even being deliberately - evidence about concussions, and pressuring players into putting themselves at risk while being aware of the risk....they settled that case for $765 million, which is a drop in the bucket for them (the judge didn't accept the number and there may still be negotiations, but it's certainly not going to be anything that ends the NFL). Now, the NFL addresses this issue at every turn, despite massive criticism from much of its fanbase (who turn out in record numbers to watch the product every year anyway). They will somehow make it. If that darn crown of the helmet rule for running backs didn't wipe them out as was predicted here, they can manage.

From a legal standpoint, the NFL is not legally responsible for every harm that its players endure. There has to be a showing of negligence. That's going to be harder and harder to show as the NFL continues to tweak its rules, and more importantly, make players aware of the danger. Harmful activities are not inherently illegal if there's consent to the risk and no negligence.

Guys, lawsuits didn't even kill the TOBACCO industry, or even the huge companies in it that lied about what they knew for decades, possibly causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands or more. It just doesn't work like that in America. You can sell a product, or employ someone to a job that will literally kill them as long as there's no negligence in how its presented and executed. I assume Jahvid Best is having financial problems and he's trying to make a quick buck (which could backfire if he ends up on the hook for NFL's attorney fees). But let's say he has a point about the helmets. That the helmet makers misrepresented something, could have made their helmets safer, but chose not to, and lied about it. That doesn't mean the end of the NFL, it means that the players get better helmets. And a more detailed warning on the side. For all that we're criticized for our "litigious society", that's the upside to it, we live in a safer, risk-aware (though not necessarily risk-free) word because of this thread of litigation. That threat has made football safer too. Bad news for those who get off on people getting their heads bashed in, but good news for society.

JPhillips · 01-29-2014, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

We need to make a list of everything that is going to be gone forever soon according to FOFC posters.

-The NFL
-College Athletics

OK, not much of a list. I think I'm missing something.

The internet
Freedom

molson · 01-29-2014, 09:36 AM

I can't believe I forgot the internet in my list. I almost put "America". But we're not quite reddit.

stevew · 01-29-2014, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

We need to make a list of everything that is going to be gone forever soon according to FOFC posters.

-The NFL
-College Athletics

OK, not much of a list. I think I'm missing something.

Redheads

Matthean · 01-29-2014, 10:07 AM

I believe a similar thread was started due to the constant rule changes as well.

Qwikshot · 01-29-2014, 11:00 AM

As long as people are willing to be paid to run into other people while those other people try to tackle them at full strength over a little pigskin ball, I think we'll have football.

RomaGoth · 01-29-2014, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd

I like how he is going to be a coach on a college football team. After football ruined his life he is going to make money ruining other people's lives.

I doubt he will make much money as a student assistant coach.

fortheglory · 01-29-2014, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

We need to make a list of everything that is going to be gone forever soon according to FOFC posters.

-The NFL
-College Athletics

OK, not much of a list. I think I'm missing something.

Anything fun.

path12 · 01-29-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fortheglory

Anything fun.

I dunno. Pretty sure fucking isn't going anywhere.

chadritt · 01-29-2014, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I dunno. Pretty sure fucking isn't going anywhere.

Someone hasn't seen Demolition Man...

Blackadar · 01-29-2014, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I dunno. Pretty sure fucking isn't going anywhere.

Not with Viagra!

Lathum · 01-29-2014, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I dunno. Pretty sure fucking isn't going anywhere.

you should talk to some of us married guys with young kids...

path12 · 01-29-2014, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

you should talk to some of us married guys with young kids...

I'm a married guy with the kid out of the house.

It gets better.

molson · 01-29-2014, 02:13 PM

Drunk hippie girls in college used to always tell me that bananas were going extinct because of lack of genetic diversity. Is that still a thing?

Matthean · 01-29-2014, 02:23 PM

I'm pretty sure drunk hippie girls in college are still around.

Lathum · 01-29-2014, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

Drunk hippie girls in college used to always tell me that bananas were going extinct because of lack of genetic diversity. Is that still a thing?

I hope not, I like bananas

Blackadar · 01-29-2014, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

Drunk hippie girls in college used to always tell me that bananas were going extinct because of lack of genetic diversity. Is that still a thing?

Yes, we have no bananas!

The Cavendish banana, which is what we're all used to eating in the USA, is being destroyed by a fungus. Since a banana is essentially a cloned plant, it can not develop defenses against the fungus. It's the same thing that happened to another banana, the Gros Michels. It's probably going to happen.

However, there are a lot of types of bananas. If the Cavendish goes away, it will be replaced by the Goldfinger (which is resistant to the fungus) and/or the Red Dacca. So you will still have bananas, just not the ones you're used to.

Edit - I can't believe I remembered that shit.

molson · 01-29-2014, 03:11 PM

Ya, what are you Blackader, some kind of banana scientist?

Anyway, I think I can revise the list now of things are the definitely ending soon:

The NFL
College Athletics
The Internet
Freedom
America
Redheads
Anything Fun
Cavendish banana (but not other kinds of bananas)
Fucking (unconfirmed)
Drunk Hippie Girls (unconfirmed)

A-Husker-4-Life · 01-29-2014, 03:12 PM

I guess I should have said,"this will be bad for the future of the NFL" sorry everyone..

RomaGoth · 01-29-2014, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

Ya, what are you Blackader, some kind of banana scientist?

Anyway, I think I can revise the list now of things are the definitely ending soon:

The NFL
College Athletics
The Internet
Freedom
America
Redheads
Anything Fun
Fucking (unconfirmed)
Drunk Hippie Girls (unconfirmed)
This Thread

fixed

Lathum · 01-29-2014, 03:35 PM

The employment of several Georgia school officials.

sterlingice · 01-29-2014, 03:59 PM

Didn't Blackadar also confirm that bananas are coming to an end (as we know it)

SI

molson · 01-29-2014, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Didn't Blackadar also confirm that bananas are coming to an end (as we know it)

SI

Damn it! Will adjust list.

path12 · 01-29-2014, 04:02 PM

This can't end, we haven't even gotten to fucking drunk hippie girls yet!

SteveMax58 · 01-29-2014, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by molson

We need to make a list of everything that is going to be gone forever soon according to FOFC posters.

You can add:

* Those dam kids walking on my lawn

Kodos · 01-29-2014, 04:22 PM

My self respect.

EagleFan · 01-29-2014, 05:27 PM

JPhillips · 01-29-2014, 05:32 PM

Blue eyes

Ocean fish

Jobs

stevew · 01-29-2014, 05:47 PM

Seriously I doubt the NFL folds soon but at one point ARod, MySpace and NBC's Thursday were considered unimpeachable kings.

JPhillips · 01-29-2014, 05:52 PM

Commas!

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/t...ompletely.html

bhlloy · 01-29-2014, 06:11 PM

The University of Texas and any gaming system not made by Sony

01-29-2014, 09:08 AM	#8
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01-29-2014, 09:10 AM	#9
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	And as to the merits of this, the NFL recently settled a concussion lawsuit that covered thousands of players, many decades, and a huge track record of completely ignoring - possibly even being deliberately - evidence about concussions, and pressuring players into putting themselves at risk while being aware of the risk....they settled that case for $765 million, which is a drop in the bucket for them (the judge didn't accept the number and there may still be negotiations, but it's certainly not going to be anything that ends the NFL). Now, the NFL addresses this issue at every turn, despite massive criticism from much of its fanbase (who turn out in record numbers to watch the product every year anyway). They will somehow make it. If that darn crown of the helmet rule for running backs didn't wipe them out as was predicted here, they can manage. From a legal standpoint, the NFL is not legally responsible for every harm that its players endure. There has to be a showing of negligence. That's going to be harder and harder to show as the NFL continues to tweak its rules, and more importantly, make players aware of the danger. Harmful activities are not inherently illegal if there's consent to the risk and no negligence. Guys, lawsuits didn't even kill the TOBACCO industry, or even the huge companies in it that lied about what they knew for decades, possibly causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands or more. It just doesn't work like that in America. You can sell a product, or employ someone to a job that will literally kill them as long as there's no negligence in how its presented and executed. I assume Jahvid Best is having financial problems and he's trying to make a quick buck (which could backfire if he ends up on the hook for NFL's attorney fees). But let's say he has a point about the helmets. That the helmet makers misrepresented something, could have made their helmets safer, but chose not to, and lied about it. That doesn't mean the end of the NFL, it means that the players get better helmets. And a more detailed warning on the side. For all that we're criticized for our "litigious society", that's the upside to it, we live in a safer, risk-aware (though not necessarily risk-free) word because of this thread of litigation. That threat has made football safer too. Bad news for those who get off on people getting their heads bashed in, but good news for society. Last edited by molson : 01-29-2014 at 09:31 AM.

01-29-2014, 09:36 AM	#11
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01-29-2014, 10:07 AM	#13
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01-29-2014, 11:00 AM	#14
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01-29-2014, 08:38 AM	#2
Blackadar Retired Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fantasyland	Former Detroit Lions RB Jahvid Best suing NFL, helmet maker - ESPN Jahvid Best suing the NFL and Riddell for money in case he has long-term concussion damage. I don't think he'll have much of a case, especially against the NFL. He had two concussions prior to entering the NFL and he won't be able to prove that any potential long-term damage wasn't done prior to his entry into the NFL. His claim that the NFL "allowed" him to get drafted will fall flat because he declared and had the NFL not allowed him to participate, he could have sued them for that. His suit against Riddell is going to be a little trickier but again I don't see it succeeding. He'd have to prove that he only used Riddell products during his entire football career and that the helmets were faulty because they didn't prevent concussions in football. Considering that's an unobtainable bar to achieve, I don't think that goes anywhere either. It appears he got paid about $6m from 2010 to 2012. I don't have much sympathy - you shouldn't need any more money for long-term care. Here's hoping this shit gets tossed out.

01-29-2014, 08:38 AM	#3
mrtourette High School JV Join Date: Dec 2013	The NFL isn't going anywhere.

01-29-2014, 08:55 AM	#4
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	anytime there is a rule change for player safety someone is going to start shouting about the pussification of the NFL and how it is going to ruin the sport. I think the sport is going to be ruined by head trauma if they can't make it safer. 10 years ago I would have loved if I had a son who played football, now I don't think I would even allow it, and certainly not encourage it. Not to mention someone dying on the field or in the locker room would be pretty bad for the league.

01-29-2014, 08:56 AM	#5
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	I like how he is going to be a coach on a college football team. After football ruined his life he is going to make money ruining other people's lives.

01-29-2014, 09:06 AM	#6
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	We need to make a list of everything that is going to be gone forever soon according to FOFC posters. -The NFL -College Athletics OK, not much of a list. I think I'm missing something.

01-29-2014, 09:07 AM	#7
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The NFL will not go away. Will it lose importance relative to other forms of entertainment over time? Possibly. Horse racing and boxing are still around, but not nearly as popular as they used to be.

01-29-2014, 02:13 PM	#22
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Drunk hippie girls in college used to always tell me that bananas were going extinct because of lack of genetic diversity. Is that still a thing?

01-29-2014, 02:23 PM	#23
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01-29-2014, 03:11 PM	#26
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Ya, what are you Blackader, some kind of banana scientist? Anyway, I think I can revise the list now of things are the definitely ending soon: The NFL College Athletics The Internet Freedom America Redheads Anything Fun Cavendish banana (but not other kinds of bananas) Fucking (unconfirmed) Drunk Hippie Girls (unconfirmed) Last edited by molson : 01-29-2014 at 04:02 PM.

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