Fantasy Football 2012: Who Should I Start This Week?

[stevew]

I'd take that trade in a second if a minimal amount of cash was on the line. Rodgers is going to be like, what, 5 ppg better than Manning? He scored 100 more points last year.

Gronk outscored Hernandez by 100 points last year, but I can't see that happening again. 17 TDs was pretty fluky.

I want no part of ryan matthews.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

or ridley misses a blocking assignment and the sweatshirt drops him to 3rd string for a month

having any pat as your rb1 is a leap of faith. rather have 10 productive weeks of matthews than a full season of whothefuckknows w/ridley

[stevew]

Got offered the worst trade. First of all, "4 for 3" moves are almost always a dick move.

I send Foster, Gates, R Moss
I get Sproules, Redman, Blackmon, Gresham.

Non PPR. Non dynasty.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

or ridley misses a blocking assignment and the sweatshirt drops him to 3rd string for a month

having any pat as your rb1 is a leap of faith. rather have 10 productive weeks of matthews than a full season of whothefuckknows w/ridley

I thought Matthews changed hid last name to Matthews Gametime Decision. If he scratches at 4:25 it becomes impossible to find a replacement.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by stevew

Got offered the worst trade. First of all, "4 for 3" moves are almost always a dick move.

I send Foster, Gates, R Moss
I get Sproules, Redman, Blackmon, Gresham.

Non PPR. Non dynasty.

Why take the big hit to TE and WR? Redman might already be done with his poor showing and Mendenhall possibly back soon and Moss for Blackmon?

SI

[stevew]

New guy fishing for someone gullible I suppose. Foster is way better than Sproules. Really good chance Gates is better than Gresham. If not, Gresham is replacement level anyways.

I asked if we could kick the guy out next year

[stevew]

I sent him back something horrible. Gistkowski, Amendola, Mike Williams and Goodson for MJD, Doug Martin, AJ Green.

[dubb93]

I was offered Larry Fitzgerald or Ray Rice. I sent him back my kicker for Fitz. Are all of Fitz's owners panicked and trying to move him at this point?

[Vince, Pt. II]

Two questions:

QB:
Eli Manning vs. Tampa Bay
Matt Schaub @ Jacksonville

I mean, Christian Ponder was able to go 50 yards in 10 seconds against the Jags...and the Buccs were able to put a lid on Cam Newton. I have Eli slotted in there now, but I'm just wondering...

D:
Seattle vs. Dallas
Minnesota @ Indianapolis
New York Giants vs. Tampa
Oakland @ Miami

I'd be dropping Seattle's D to pick up any of the other guys. I was beaten to the Cincinnati waiver wire pickup last weekend, so I'm stuck with this.

[britrock88]

Stick with Seattle for the long haul.

[stevew]

Oakland's D gets to play vs Tannehill

[dubb93]

Starting to get warmer. Now he's wanting to trade Megatron for my Ray Rice. I'm not considering it as is, but he has me intrigued now. He has Frank Gore and Ryan Matthews on his team.

Should I serious consider it if he would include one of those? I'm leaning towards just keeping Rice. I feel good about my WR's honestly. I have Welker, Garcon, Steve Smith of the Panthers, Nate Washington, and Stephen Hill.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i'd pull the trigger on a rice/garcon for megatron/matthews deal

[Qwikshot]

Was able to trade Sproles for Percy Harvin, I had no second receiver.

Now I gotta hope Mathews and Chris Johnson hold up.

[TLK]

Which side of Roethlisberger/Richardson for Arian Foster would you want to be on?

Team 1-
Qb- Rivers, Roethlisberger, Smith
Rb- Rice, Richardson, D. Martin, P. Thomas

Team 2-
Qb- Locker, Gabbart (no joke)
RB- Foster, Perterson, Matthews, K. Smith

[dubb93]

Keep in mind Foster and Rice were two of the top 3 picks in alot of leagues(if I had both of them I'm carving my name in the trophy, game over). They went 2 and 3 in my league. If I could get them both on my roster I do it in a heart beat. I don't trade a top 3 player for garbage that could have been had in rounds 4, 5, and 6.

[Scoobz0202]

I wouldn't want to be team 2.

[PurdueBrad]

In that deal, I would want to be the team getting Foster...easily.

[sooner333]

I don't want to be team 2 before or after that trade. I'd probably be better after it, but you'd have to think there's a better deal to be made.

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by sooner333

I don't want to be team 2 before or after that trade. I'd probably be better after it, but you'd have to think there's a better deal to be made.

Yeah, you said it better than I did. Team 2 looks rough

[bhlloy]

Better upside play - stick with Jonathan Dwyer or put in a waiver claim (that I probably won't win anyway) on Daryl Richardson?

With Mendenhall coming back and Jackson possibly nursing a groin strain I'm leaning towards Richardson short term, but I can't shake the feeling that Dwyer might be the best back on the Steelers even including Mendenhall

[SirFozzie]

So I just need 20 yards from Roddy White tommorrow to win my Week 2 game ...

[stevew]

Man, lost the week high score 123.5 to 123.4 due to some garbage time Calvin Johnson catch. Oh well. At least I should win my game.

[sooner333]

In one league I need 8 points or less from Tony Gonzalez to win.

In another I have a three point lead with McGahee against D. Thomas.

[Apathetic Lurker]

I'm in a pretty intensive 16 team IDP Dynasty league. My team is getting old and I end up, for the most part between 5-10 th place. So I decided to retool, dump old and get 1st round picks for the only major offensive talent I had, Wallace Marshall and Mcfadden. Ended up with Fleener and RGIII out of that deal plus a bunch of picks in the 2nd and 4th. So now I have about 12 picks in 6 rounds next year.

Unfortunately my plan backfired and instead of my team taking a flat out dump they killed the opposition in both weeks. I'm not sure I can sustain it.
I have major issues with my rb's. The only two that can be considered reliable are Hillis and Sproles. So I was planning to use up my early 1st and possibly 2nd next year for a rookie back(s)during the draft. And no, this is a extremely competitive league...There is no decent waiver fodder backs available... ever...50 player teams make sure of that.
My best waiver pick in ten years was Colston....
So my question is this: Should I use up my 1st and get a good to middlin' back( Chris Johnson went for two 1sts to give you an idea of value. But that was during his holdout) or should I hope for the worst and roll with the team I have while shifting some older useful talent like Woodson out to a contender.

If I do trade for a back what is the consensus on Taiwan Jones?

Ideas would be helpful

[sterlingice]

Is it that your success is really sustainable this year or more of a mirage? What does the rest of your team look like compared to the competition. I can't think you have a lot at WR if you dumped Wallace and Marshall. And shortcutting your rebuilding will just lead to more 5th-10th round finishes, right?

SI

[Apathetic Lurker]

Im not sure if its a mirage. I can see about 7 wins without a problem..So i'm going to be possibly stuck in the middle again.
I could start crap to kill off my points but I don't like playing like that.

Hester and Burress are possible waiver wire casualties

This is The Sheep

Fitzpatrick, Ryan BUF QB
Griffin III, Robert WAS QB (R)
Mallett, Ryan NEP QB
Draughn, Shaun KCC RB
Hillis, Peyton KCC RB
Ivory, Christopher NOS RB
Jacobs, Brandon SFO RB
Sproles, Darren NOS RB
Adams, Kris IND WR
Bess, Davone MIA WR
Burress, Plaxico FA* WR
Gibson, Brandon STL WR
Hawkins, Andrew CIN WR
Hester, Devin CHI WR
Massaquoi, Mohamed CLE
Ogletree, Kevin DAL WR
Roberts, Andre ARI WR
Stokley, Brandon DEN WR
Bennett, Martellus NYG TE
Fleener, Coby IND TE (R)
Graham, Garrett HOU TE
Janikowski, Sebastian OAK PK (P)
Walsh, Blair MIN PK (R)
Zuerlein, Greg STL PK
Casey, Jurrell TEN DT
Dareus, Marcell BUF DT
Poe, Dontari KCC DT (R)
Anderson, Mark BUF DE
Avril, Cliff DET DE
Long, Chris STL DE
McPhee, Pernell BAL DE
Barnett, Nick BUF LB
Bowman, Navorro SFO LB
Brown, Zach TEN LB (R)
Dansby, Karlos MIA LB
Fort, L.J. CLE LB (R)
Miller, Von DEN LB
Vilma, Jonathan NOS LB
Williams, Jacquian NYG LB
Gilmore, Stephon BUF CB (R)
Byrd, Jairus BUF S
Moore, Rahim DEN S
Raymond, Mistral MIN S
Smith, Harrison MIN S (R)
Woodson, Charles GBP S

Injured Reserve
Nelson, David BUF WR (I)
Toon, Nick NOS WR (R) (I)

Taxi Squad
Adams, Joe CAR WR (R)
Wright, Jarius MIN WR (R)
Burfict, Vontaze CIN LB (R)
Wilson, Tavon NEP S (R)

[sooner333]

Worth it to go after Kellen Winslow with the Pats and cut Rudolph or Gresham (different teams--I'm not keeping multiple backup TE's)? For that matter, cut McCluster in a third league?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Some dude in my league offered me the following trade:

Aaron Rodgers + Randy Moss (him)

for

Matt Schuab + Demeco Ryans (LB) (me)

I couldn't hit "accept" fast enough!

[Apathetic Lurker]

I got offered Gronkowski, Fred Jackson and a 3rd for Martellus Bennett, Navarro Bowman and a 5th after my inquiry into Fred Jacksons availability. His first offer was...bad.

I know Fred is pretty much past his sell by date but I figure he has enough in the tank to be my emergency back when he comes back since I really only have Sproles and Hillis. I'd miss Bowman but I have luck finding LB's. Not missing Bennett too much as I just picked him up this summer in waiver transactions for a relatively cheap price. So i'd have Gronk and Fleener. I can get a decent lb next year with a 3rd or a development project at qb.

Points wise Gronk has about the same amount of points as Bowman and i'm not expecting 17 tds but closer to 8-10.

Any thoughts?

[Vince, Pt. II]

If CJ Spiller keeps playing like vintage Barry Sanders, Jackson may not see much PT at all when he gets back.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

i still like jackson. alot. dunno what his role will be when he gets back but this is his contract year.

there's a good chance he'll be starting for another team next year so some keeper value there

[Apathetic Lurker]

so a worthy trade offer?

[britrock88]

Dangling RGIII (I've had him sitting behind Brady, but will start him if he doesn't move) just for the entertainment value. Sell high, right?

[chadritt]

Im doing the same, I have Matt Ryan as a starter, but its only a 10 team league so nobody is biting.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

so a worthy trade offer?

can't say. never played idp. as an emergency back you could do a lot worse than jackson. if he wants a decent contract next year he's gonna have to show something down the stretch.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

can't say. never played idp. as an emergency back you could do a lot worse than jackson. if he wants a decent contract next year he's gonna have to show something down the stretch.

In our league defense, especially LB's are gold for points....Offensively, good to great TE's are gold too.Possibly platinum. Even scrub TE's have potential for 5-10 points on a consistant basis.

I know Gronk is a very steady point guy. I just don't know about Bennett. Can he keep it up in a Giants offense or is he going to flake out at one point....Right now he has 38.7 vs 43.5 points for the Gronk.

Basically im giving up Bowman for Gronk- right about the same points.
Bennett going for Jackson with a 3rd thrown in and I lose a 5th.

Damn this is difficult......

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

yeah, i have bennett in the auction league. he's confounding. the giants other te (forget his name) comes off injury in a few weeks.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

dola: there's more serviceable te's than the are lb's, no? bowman's really good

[Apathetic Lurker]

Top 5 FA TE
Dante Rosario 36.8
Anthony McCoy 17.6
Matthew Mulligan 16.4
Jeff Cumberland 12.1
Tom Crabree 10.2

Top 5 FA LB
Garrett McIntyre 26
Alberty McClellan 20
Quentin Groves 19
Scott Bryan 19
Vincent Rey 16

After that there are 22 LB's with 5 or more points. Only 7 TE with 5 or more

So te's are scarcer. I traded for good stuff when I got rid of Pitta and Dickson as a package. I also play a double TE offense since I only have Sproles as a viable point guy. Plus 3 WR..And thats a crapshoot. So I do need 2 good -great TE. Right now its Fleener and Bennett. I'd have Fleener and Gronk. But Bowman is the issue. I have decent lb's even missing him but he is my best.

[DougW]

Trade Offer :

First, it's a keeper league. We are allowed to keep only 3 players, and a player can only be kept 3 years. His keeper cost is basically his drafted position, with some penalties.

Scoring. 1 for 10 yardage, 6 pts TD .. NO PPR
We start :
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 D
1 K

My keepers this year were V Cruz, T Romo, and D McFadden costing a 5th, 6th, and 7th rounder. Most of the league keeps players that cost a 5-7, and because of this, and the "only 3 years kept" rule, there is usually solid talent in the draft.

At this point, I'm planning to keep V Cruz, McFadden again next year. And with the 3rd keeper - Romo again, Maclin, a FA Pickup (like Cruz was for me last year) - or a breakout player currently on roster. Also, obviously the players received in this deal offer some keeper consideration.

Player Received		Keeper Cost	Keeper Years left
J Charles (KC)		5th		1
L Fitzgerald (ARZ)	2nd & 4th	3
R Mendenhall (PIT)	5th		3

Player Given		Keeper Cost	Keeper Years Left
R Matthews (SD)		1st & 3rd	3
C Benson (GB)		5th		3
R Brown (SD)		5th		3

Current Team		Keeper Cost	Keeper Years Left
T Romo (DAL)		5th		2

R Matthews (SD)		1st & 3rd	3
D McFadden (OAK)	5th		1
C Benson (GB)		5th		3
R Brown (SD)		5th		3

V Cruz (NYG)		5th		2
J Maclin (PHI)		3rd & 5th	3	
B Lloyd (NE)		4th		3
Heyward-Bey (OAK)	5th		3
D Moore (OAK)		5th		3
D Avery (IND)		5th		3

J Finley (GB)		2nd & 4th	3

S Janikowski (OAK)	5th		3

NY Jets (Def)		5th		3
Baltimore (Def)		5th		3

[Apathetic Lurker]

I think Charles is on the downside, burning hot but flaming out fast after his injury. Mendenhall is still injured so you don't know what you will get when he comes back and I dont know whats up with Fitz especially with NE's pass defense. Age? Schemes? Qb issues?

Benson is a starter and so is Matthews. Basically if everyone is healthy you would get rich fast on this trade. Now? Iffy who gets the better end of the deal.

[sooner333]

Speaking of Jackson, somebody actually cut him in my ten-team league. I am pretty solid at backup RB with Benson and Morris, but would it be worth cutting Gresham just as a speculative pickup? I'm not really sure who I'd cut when Vernon Davis has a bye and I need a TE.

[DougW]

Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

I got offered Gronkowski, Fred Jackson and a 3rd for Martellus Bennett, Navarro Bowman and a 5th after my inquiry into Fred Jacksons availability. His first offer was...bad.

I know Fred is pretty much past his sell by date but I figure he has enough in the tank to be my emergency back when he comes back since I really only have Sproles and Hillis. I'd miss Bowman but I have luck finding LB's. Not missing Bennett too much as I just picked him up this summer in waiver transactions for a relatively cheap price. So i'd have Gronk and Fleener. I can get a decent lb next year with a 3rd or a development project at qb.

Points wise Gronk has about the same amount of points as Bowman and i'm not expecting 17 tds but closer to 8-10.

Any thoughts?

I've never played in an IDP league, so I'm a bit out of my element. Because of this, I'll shy away from a direct go/no go answer .

My thoughts on the other elements :
Gronk is a beast. Especially with Hernandez out a few weeks. He's on a passing team with a great QB, and IMO is the first option. Best TE in the league.

I don't think Bennett will end up with 16 TDs (has 2 after 2 games), but his yardage and catches may be close to what he's done thus far.

Spiller has taken Jacksons spot. Obviously a fast start this year, but even last years finish was nice. He averaged 78 yards rushing per game, with 3 TDs over the last 5. And, had a 9 catch 76 yard receiving game in there. And, I'd be wary of looking to Jackson as a keeper. Sure, he could end up somewhere and be a full time starter .. but, most likely - he'll end up somewhere and be part of a committee. Just the way the NFL is now.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Depends when SF's bye week is. Jackson i'd venture a guess is still out 4 or so weeks.

[Apathetic Lurker]

Originally Posted by DougW

I've never played in an IDP league, so I'm a bit out of my element. Because of this, I'll shy away from a direct go/no go answer .

My thoughts on the other elements :
Gronk is a beast. Especially with Hernandez out a few weeks. He's on a passing team with a great QB, and IMO is the first option. Best TE in the league.

I don't think Bennett will end up with 16 TDs (has 2 after 2 games), but his yardage and catches may be close to what he's done thus far.

Spiller has taken Jacksons spot. Obviously a fast start this year, but even last years finish was nice. He averaged 78 yards rushing per game, with 3 TDs over the last 5. And, had a 9 catch 76 yard receiving game in there. And, I'd be wary of looking to Jackson as a keeper. Sure, he could end up somewhere and be a full time starter .. but, most likely - he'll end up somewhere and be part of a committee. Just the way the NFL is now.

I don't expect Jackson to be a starter for anyone.He's going to end up a career backup at best for some team. ..He'd be my backup starter or emergency starter if Sproles goes down. I know bennett wont go 16 td's but I have to figure out if hes worth getting a 3rd rounder along with Jackson back. Gronk is a one for one trade for Bowman.

[DougW]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Speaking of Jackson, somebody actually cut him in my ten-team league. I am pretty solid at backup RB with Benson and Morris, but would it be worth cutting Gresham just as a speculative pickup? I'm not really sure who I'd cut when Vernon Davis has a bye and I need a TE.

I'd do it. Davis is a plug and play, I can't see any situation where you'd use Gresham over Davis because of matchups. And SFs bye is week 9. 9 Weeks is a long time to hold a spot for a 1 game sub player. I'd say pick him (or another project type guy) up, and see how things shake up until Davis' bye. Things will clear up for ya.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Originally Posted by sooner333

Speaking of Jackson, somebody actually cut him in my ten-team league. I am pretty solid at backup RB with Benson and Morris, but would it be worth cutting Gresham just as a speculative pickup? I'm not really sure who I'd cut when Vernon Davis has a bye and I need a TE.

definitely. in a ten team league you should have no trouble picking up a bye week te

[sooner333]

Thanks guys...hopefully I'll be able to pick him up on waivers.

[sooner333]

DOLA:

Start two (1 RB/1FLEX)

Sproles
Andre Brown (Thursday)
Garcon (questionable)
Britt

This is assuming Forte is out. He would be at RB and we'd be discussing the Flex only. But if I start Brown I'm committed to him after Thursday.