NFL Week 16 Thread - Page 3

Suburban Rhythm · 12-23-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Marvin's decisions are inexplicable.

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Originally Posted by rowech

Just fucking pure idiocy. Gift wrapped the game. Merry Christmas Pittsburgh.

Tomlin did the same on a Thursday night vs Tennessee early in the year. Suisham's only miss (til today's) was a 55 harder. Tennessee took the ball, scored winner on next drive.

How these guy's don't have an accurate gauge of their kickers range is odd.

kingfc22 · 12-23-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

Just fucking pure idiocy. Gift wrapped the game. Merry Christmas Pittsburgh.

Or not.

Suburban Rhythm · 12-23-2012, 03:09 PM

Can we just let neither of these teams into the playoffs?

kingfc22 · 12-23-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Can we just let neither of these teams into the playoffs?

I was just about to post that neither team wants to win this game.

tucker rocky · 12-23-2012, 03:11 PM

McElroy bagged for the 10th time today.

edit: sacked again, 3 consective sacks on that series.

MizzouRah · 12-23-2012, 03:12 PM

Rams win!

Julio Riddols · 12-23-2012, 03:17 PM

The Bengals defense was the best they have ever been today, and the team as a whole grew up. HUGE win. One of the biggest in team history.

cougarfreak · 12-23-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rowech

I really think the Bengals are afraid to be good. Every time they get a game like this, they look like little kids. It's easier for them to just be bad. It's difficult to be good.

Not this year. Squealers stay home.

JPhillips · 12-23-2012, 03:18 PM

That was a hell of a last two minutes.

If Cincy beats Baltimore do they win the division?

OldGiants · 12-23-2012, 03:19 PM

I have officially reached the point where I will use a semi-automatic weapon on the next team that tries to draw a team offside with 20 seconds plus of hard count signals.

Get on with it, dipsticks.

kingfc22 · 12-23-2012, 03:19 PM

New Orleans pass defense is horrible.

rowech · 12-23-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Not this year. Squealers stay home.

I'm so giddy.

rowech · 12-23-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

That was a hell of a last two minutes.

If Cincy beats Baltimore do they win the division?

Baltimore can win division if they win today. If they lose...I'm not sure.

Thomkal · 12-23-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGiants

I have officially reached the point where I will use a semi-automatic weapon on the next team that tries to draw a team offside with 20 seconds plus of hard count signals.

Get on with it, dipsticks.

I'm with you there OG-hate when teams try that and Brees does it a lot.

tucker rocky · 12-23-2012, 03:22 PM

....and Dallas ties it.

stevew · 12-23-2012, 03:24 PM

Spectacularly horrible coaching battle in Pittsburgh.

JPhillips · 12-23-2012, 03:24 PM

btw- The Bengals defense was superb.

Scoobz0202 · 12-23-2012, 03:27 PM

Rooommmoooooooo!

Julio Riddols · 12-23-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Spectacularly horrible coaching battle in Pittsburgh.

Both of those fg attempts late were terrible ideas. I also thought Cinci passing up a 50 yard FG attempt to go for it on 4th and 22 in the 1st half was pretty bad.

MIJB#19 · 12-23-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

That was a hell of a last two minutes.

If Cincy beats Baltimore do they win the division?

No, they don't. If Baltimore ~~loses to~~ beats the Giants and Cincinnati beats Baltimore, we're going to tie-breakers:
1. head-to-head: will be tied after the week 1 win for Baltimore
2. division record: Baltimore is 4-1, Cincinnati 2-3

The Cincinnati win made Baltimore the division champions (if Baltimore wins today). Pittsburgh was Baltimore's rival that kept them from clinching the division.

JPhillips · 12-23-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MIJB#19

No, they don't. If Baltimore loses to the Giants and Cincinnati beats Baltimore, we're going to tie-breakers:
1. head-to-head: will be tied after the week 1 win for Baltimore
2. division record: Baltimore is 4-1, Cincinnati 2-3

The Cincinnati win made Baltimore the division champions. Pittsburgh was Baltimore's rival that kept them from clinching the division.

As long as Baltimore wins today. If they lose out they'll be a game behind Cincy. I just wasn't sure if today's Baltimore game mattered, but clearly it does.

MIJB#19 · 12-23-2012, 03:35 PM

Yeah, Baltimore clinches if they win today, because of the tie-breakers. Pittsburgh was still in a position where they could get the better tie-breakers in a three-way tie.

MizzouRah · 12-23-2012, 03:40 PM

Saints!!!

Desnudo · 12-23-2012, 03:40 PM

Does indy have anything to play for next week or are the Texans going to back into the #1 seed?

Thomkal · 12-23-2012, 03:43 PM

:::covers his eyes as the Cards fumble on the goal line and lose it for a TD:::

Vince, Pt. II · 12-23-2012, 03:59 PM

Does the Baltimore coaching staff just hate the shit out of Ray Rice? What the hell.

Desnudo · 12-23-2012, 04:02 PM

Eli doing Eli things

MIJB#19 · 12-23-2012, 04:19 PM

Just did some tie-breakers digging for how things will be at the end of the season. Below are all possible combos of tied teams and how they are broken:

race for #1 seed, #2 seed, #3 seed
NEP > HOU,DEN (hthth)
NEP > DEN,BAL (conf)
NEP > HOU (hth)
NEP > DEN (hth)
HOU > DEN (hth)
DEN > BAL (hth)
BAL > NEP (hth)

race for AFC North
BAL > CIN (div)

race for #5 seed
IND > CIN (comm)

race for #2 seed
SF4 > GBB (hth)
SEA > GBB (hth)

race for NFC West, potentially for #2 seed
SF4 > SEA (comm)

race for NFC East, NFC East 2nd place
DAL > WAS v NYG (div v NYG, then comm v WAS)
WAS > NYG (div)
DAL > WAS (comm)
because of the DAL-WAS clash, there can't be a DAL-NYG 2-way tie

race for NFC North 2nd place
MIN > CHI (div if Chi doesn't go LW; comm if Chi LW)

race for #5 and #6 seed
NYG > SEA,MIN (conf)
NYG > SEA,CHI (conf)
WAS > SEA,MIN (hthth v MIN, then conf v SEA)
SEA > DAL,MIN (hthth)
WAS > SEA,CHI (conf)
SEA > CHI,DAL (hthth)
NYG > MIN (conf)
NYG > CHI (conf)
NYG > SEA (conf)
WAS > MIN (hth)
WAS > CHI (conf)
WAS > SEA (conf)
DAL > MIN (comm)
CHI > DAL (hth)
SEA > DAL (hth)
SEA > MIN (hth)
SEA > CHI (hth)

Keep in mind that if several teams across division are tied, ties from the same division are broken first to keep one team at most for each division in the running.

MIJB#19 · 12-23-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Does indy have anything to play for next week or are the Texans going to back into the #1 seed?

Indianapolis has tie-breakers over Cincinnati, so if all of Baltimore, Cincinnati and Indianapolis are 10-6, Baltimore wins the AFC North, Indianapolis gets wild card 1 and Cincinnati wild card 2. That locks Indianapolis in the #5 seed already.

Glengoyne · 12-23-2012, 04:30 PM

Rules committee needs to rewind about Seven years and re-determine just what a catch is.

Cause they haven't had it right in quite a while.

Glengoyne · 12-23-2012, 04:40 PM

What did I miss there. Why would the giants want to review that play?

Incomplete pass was better than a recovered fumble.

Desnudo · 12-23-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

What did I miss there. Why would the giants want to review that play?

Incomplete pass was better than a recovered fumble.

Balt had possession then fumbled themselves which would reset downs

JonInMiddleGA · 12-23-2012, 04:42 PM

11 sacks of McElroy by the Chargers ... srsly?

Did Sanchez pay off the linemen or something?

Matthean · 12-23-2012, 04:45 PM

If I have this right, the Giants lose today and they are done.

mckerney · 12-23-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

If I have this right, the Giants lose today and they are done.

Not mathematically, but the Lions would need to beat the Bears for them to make it.

MIJB#19 · 12-23-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

If I have this right, the Giants lose today and they are done.

Not yet. They have tie-breakers over all the other divisions' NFC teams. Even at 9-7 they have a shot at it, but obviously they need Minnesota, Chicago and Seattle all to be 9-7 at best. If one of them is better than 9-7, they need Washington to win the division (to keep Dallas worse than 9-7).

mauchow · 12-23-2012, 04:53 PM

Thanks, Ravens for possibly allowing to have the Vikings control destiny... keep it up, please!

Racer · 12-23-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

If I have this right, the Giants lose today and they are done.

I don't think that's right.

1. Bears lose this week or next.
2. Vikings lose next week.
3. Cowboys lose next week.

Giants own tiebreaker over both the Vikings and Bears.

Granted if they lose, the road to the playoffs becomes much tougher.

Matthean · 12-23-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Not mathematically, but the Lions would need to beat the Bears for them to make it.

It looks like I went back to previous settings after checking that and somehow the Giants are still in even if the Lions win. It's mostly down to Seattle getting beat twice with any other competition for the Giants also losing.

Matthean · 12-23-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer

I don't think that's right.

1. Bears lose this week or next.
2. Vikings lose next week.
3. Cowboys lose next week.

Giants own tiebreaker over both the Vikings and Bears.

Granted if they lose, the road to the playoffs becomes much tougher.

I put Chicago down for a win this week. I don't see the Cards coming back from 21-6.

mauchow · 12-23-2012, 05:01 PM

Detroit can win @ home. They will love to play spoiler against an average defense.

Glengoyne · 12-23-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Balt had possession then fumbled themselves which would reset downs

I just didn't think it was a slam dunk change of possession there... And I am further unclear why Pereria said that the ball would have been dead once the defensive player lost it.

Matthean · 12-23-2012, 05:03 PM

Ah, ok. It's basically if Chicago or Seattle wins, the other has to lose for the Giants to be in. Both Chicago and Seattle play crappy teams although the Lions are always good for a win you figure they can't get. This also assumes Minnesota and Dallas lose.

bulletsponge · 12-23-2012, 05:33 PM

gmen laying a turd

tucker rocky · 12-23-2012, 06:13 PM

Giants team in general:

tucker rocky · 12-23-2012, 07:20 PM

49ers playing another wet weather game.

Abe Sargent · 12-23-2012, 07:34 PM

Am I being abad guy if I want the Seahawks to thump teh 49ers?

Abe Sargent · 12-23-2012, 07:36 PM

AM I also beign a bad guy if I want Russell Wilson to have a better career than Luck or RG3?

Scoobz0202 · 12-23-2012, 07:55 PM

If the Cowboys don't win the Super Bowl I'm conflicted. I want the Seahawks, but Pete Carrol

kcchief19 · 12-23-2012, 07:59 PM

So, can we finally be done with Tebow now? If the stories are true (and I have no reason to believe they are not) that he told coaches he wouldn't play the wildcat this week, could he be a worse football player? I'll let people make the argument that part of his sideways relationship with the Jets is that his teammates bagged on him to the media. But I'll also have to acknowledge the counter argument that the reason his teammates bagged on him is that he doesn't work hard enough or practice well enough.

I don't want to go so far as to say his whole persona is an act, but I think Tebow loves attention but can't handle criticism. He seems like a primmadonna.

If he indeed goes to Jacksonville next year, the Jaguars may end up with an even worse QB situation next year than they have now.

12-23-2012, 03:09 PM	#103
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Can we just let neither of these teams into the playoffs? __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

12-23-2012, 03:11 PM	#105
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	McElroy bagged for the 10th time today. edit: sacked again, 3 consective sacks on that series. Last edited by tucker rocky : 12-23-2012 at 03:14 PM.

12-23-2012, 03:17 PM	#107
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	The Bengals defense was the best they have ever been today, and the team as a whole grew up. HUGE win. One of the biggest in team history. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

12-23-2012, 03:18 PM	#109
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	That was a hell of a last two minutes. If Cincy beats Baltimore do they win the division? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

12-23-2012, 03:19 PM	#110
OldGiants College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Location, Location, Location	I have officially reached the point where I will use a semi-automatic weapon on the next team that tries to draw a team offside with 20 seconds plus of hard count signals. Get on with it, dipsticks. __________________ "The case of Great Britain is the most astonishing in this matter of inequality of rights in world soccer championships. The way they explained it to me as a child, God is one but He's three: Father, Son and Holy Ghost. I could never understand it. And I still don't understand why Great Britain is one but she's four....while [others] continue to be no more than one despite the diverse nationalities that make them up." Eduardo Galeano, SOCCER IN SUN AND SHADOW

12-23-2012, 03:12 PM	#106
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Rams win!

12-23-2012, 03:19 PM	#111
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	New Orleans pass defense is horrible. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

12-23-2012, 03:22 PM	#115
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	....and Dallas ties it.

12-23-2012, 03:24 PM	#116
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Spectacularly horrible coaching battle in Pittsburgh.

12-23-2012, 03:24 PM	#117
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	btw- The Bengals defense was superb. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

12-23-2012, 03:27 PM	#118
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Rooommmoooooooo!

12-23-2012, 03:35 PM	#122
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Yeah, Baltimore clinches if they win today, because of the tie-breakers. Pittsburgh was still in a position where they could get the better tie-breakers in a three-way tie. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

12-23-2012, 03:40 PM	#123
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Saints!!!

12-23-2012, 03:40 PM	#124
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Does indy have anything to play for next week or are the Texans going to back into the #1 seed?

12-23-2012, 03:43 PM	#125
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	:::covers his eyes as the Cards fumble on the goal line and lose it for a TD:::

12-23-2012, 03:59 PM	#126
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Does the Baltimore coaching staff just hate the shit out of Ray Rice? What the hell.

12-23-2012, 04:02 PM	#127
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Eli doing Eli things

12-23-2012, 04:19 PM	#128
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Just did some tie-breakers digging for how things will be at the end of the season. Below are all possible combos of tied teams and how they are broken: race for #1 seed, #2 seed, #3 seed NEP > HOU,DEN (hthth) NEP > DEN,BAL (conf) NEP > HOU (hth) NEP > DEN (hth) HOU > DEN (hth) DEN > BAL (hth) BAL > NEP (hth) race for AFC North BAL > CIN (div) race for #5 seed IND > CIN (comm) race for #2 seed SF4 > GBB (hth) SEA > GBB (hth) race for NFC West, potentially for #2 seed SF4 > SEA (comm) race for NFC East, NFC East 2nd place DAL > WAS v NYG (div v NYG, then comm v WAS) WAS > NYG (div) DAL > WAS (comm) because of the DAL-WAS clash, there can't be a DAL-NYG 2-way tie race for NFC North 2nd place MIN > CHI (div if Chi doesn't go LW; comm if Chi LW) race for #5 and #6 seed NYG > SEA,MIN (conf) NYG > SEA,CHI (conf) WAS > SEA,MIN (hthth v MIN, then conf v SEA) SEA > DAL,MIN (hthth) WAS > SEA,CHI (conf) SEA > CHI,DAL (hthth) NYG > MIN (conf) NYG > CHI (conf) NYG > SEA (conf) WAS > MIN (hth) WAS > CHI (conf) WAS > SEA (conf) DAL > MIN (comm) CHI > DAL (hth) SEA > DAL (hth) SEA > MIN (hth) SEA > CHI (hth) Keep in mind that if several teams across division are tied, ties from the same division are broken first to keep one team at most for each division in the running. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail Last edited by MIJB#19 : 12-23-2012 at 04:29 PM. Reason: added BAL v NEP/DEN scenarios

12-23-2012, 04:30 PM	#130
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	Rules committee needs to rewind about Seven years and re-determine just what a catch is. Cause they haven't had it right in quite a while. Last edited by Glengoyne : 12-23-2012 at 04:32 PM.

12-23-2012, 04:40 PM	#131
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	What did I miss there. Why would the giants want to review that play? Incomplete pass was better than a recovered fumble.

12-23-2012, 04:42 PM	#133
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12-23-2012, 04:45 PM	#134
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	If I have this right, the Giants lose today and they are done. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

12-23-2012, 04:53 PM	#137
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Thanks, Ravens for possibly allowing to have the Vikings control destiny... keep it up, please!

12-23-2012, 05:01 PM	#141
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Detroit can win @ home. They will love to play spoiler against an average defense.

12-23-2012, 05:03 PM	#143
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Ah, ok. It's basically if Chicago or Seattle wins, the other has to lose for the Giants to be in. Both Chicago and Seattle play crappy teams although the Lions are always good for a win you figure they can't get. This also assumes Minnesota and Dallas lose. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table. Last edited by Matthean : 12-23-2012 at 05:05 PM.

12-23-2012, 05:33 PM	#144
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	gmen laying a turd

12-23-2012, 06:13 PM	#145
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Giants team in general: Last edited by tucker rocky : 12-23-2012 at 06:15 PM.

12-23-2012, 07:20 PM	#146
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	49ers playing another wet weather game.

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12-23-2012, 07:55 PM	#149
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	If the Cowboys don't win the Super Bowl I'm conflicted. I want the Seahawks, but Pete Carrol

12-23-2012, 07:59 PM	#150
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	So, can we finally be done with Tebow now? If the stories are true (and I have no reason to believe they are not) that he told coaches he wouldn't play the wildcat this week, could he be a worse football player? I'll let people make the argument that part of his sideways relationship with the Jets is that his teammates bagged on him to the media. But I'll also have to acknowledge the counter argument that the reason his teammates bagged on him is that he doesn't work hard enough or practice well enough. I don't want to go so far as to say his whole persona is an act, but I think Tebow loves attention but can't handle criticism. He seems like a primmadonna. If he indeed goes to Jacksonville next year, the Jaguars may end up with an even worse QB situation next year than they have now.

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