NFL Week 17 Thread

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

they called it a pass after review... but it was a backward pass meaning it was still a live ball Houston recovered. horrible call that happens a lot in "tuck rule" calls. cant they get it around thier heads that if the ball goes backwards its a live ball no matter if he fumbled or threw it

Yup, exactly how I viewed it in my post. Ball was clearly going backwards.

They just replayed it and clarified the rule. They said as the QB was hit, the backwards pass gets nullified. I never knew that. I thought if the ball went back, it went back. Evidently if the QB is hit during the pass attempt, it's considered a forward pass. Was anyone else aware of that rule?

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by TroyF

You misinterpreted Bucc. A coach starting a QB who has done nothing but that the entire year is the bad call. and before anyone says it, no, I don't think Tebow would make the Jets an offensive juggernaut. But one guy has clearly proven he has lost it and Ryan kept throwing him back there game after game.

I hope the Ryan-Sanchez connection continues into next season. Unfortunately I think this game will be their last hurrah.

[EagleFan]

Not sold on Newton yet but RG3 is the real deal as a QB and an athlete. Would loved to have seen him in Eagles' green.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I can totally see Vick + Reid in Arizona next year.

Please no dear lord please no.

[GrantDawg]

The Falcons are playing like it is already their first playoff game. *sigh*

[Thomkal]

I think the Eagles and Andy Reid should just load up the buses at halftime and go back to Philly-pretty clear they didn't come to play today

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The Falcons are playing like it is already their first playoff game. *sigh*

They have nothing to play for.

[EagleFan]

Uh oh, Lions make it closer.

[Mustang]

Damn.. that kick return for a TD in the Indy game. Don't think I can recall a kickoff return where the guy gets up to speed and just runs down the middle of the field straight.

[EagleFan]

That Colts' kickoff return had to be about the worst kickoff coverage ever. He practically ran straight all the way.

[Lathum]

I now know what it is like to be a Lions fan.

[EagleFan]

That Newton injury looked painful.

Really, only a taped ankle after that? Legs shouldn't bend that way.

[EagleFan]

Wow, surprised he's back in after that. It certainly looked like a bad knee injury.

[General Mike]

Rex Ryan looks more mentally beaten then I do.

[Swaggs]

Forgettable season for the Steelers, but it should be a fun offseason.

Mike Wallace, Rashard Mendenhall, Casey Hampton, Larry Foote, Batch & Leftwich, Keenan Lewis, Plaxico, and just about every reserve OL will be free agents and veterans like James Harrison, Polamalu, and Kiesel will probably be under consideration for cap casualty cuts.

I'd like to see them keep Hampton and Foote if the price is right and Keenan Lewis has been good enough to keep around if his demands are reasonable. Mendenhall is a goner and I think Wallace's holdout won't be forgotten by the Rooneys (maybe he can be franchised and dealt?).

It would be a fun FOF offseason...

[Coffee Warlord]

I almost hope the Vikings win. This Bears team has no business being in the playoffs.

[Danny]

If New England wins who gets the bye week?

[Radii]

Yet another Panthers season where they start 1-7 and finish strong to ruin a good draft pick, hooray 7-9?

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I almost hope the Vikings win. This Bears team has no business being in the playoffs.

stupid Lions.

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Danny

If New England wins who gets the bye week?

New England would be the #2 seed if they win and Denver wins. They would be the number 1 if they win and Denver loses. New England would have to lose to NOT have a bye.

[Jas_lov]

The best scenario for the Bears future would be for the Vikings to win. If the Bears make the playoffs they will get destroyed by SF again but Lovie/Tice will stay. They need to miss the playoffs so they can fire Lovie and get someone who can coach offense.

[Danny]

Matt Schaub isn't good enough for Houston to win the Super Bowl. It will be New England or Denver

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Danny

Matt Schaub isn't good enough for Houston to win the Super Bowl. It will be New England or Denver

New England or Denver will be the team to lose to the NFC in the Super Bowl?

[mckerney]

Congrats to the Bears on making the playoffs!

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I almost hope the Vikings win. This Bears team has no business being in the playoffs.

They are more deserving than this Vikings team.

[Jas_lov]

It will be NE or Denver in the AFC and SF or GB in the NFC. Nobody takes Houston or Atlanta seriously. Houston doesn't even have HFA anymore. They're not going to NE or Denver and beating Brady/Manning. Atlanta might be one and done depending on who they play in the divisional round. Seattle could beat them. If not, SF or GB will thrash them in the NFCCG.

[mckerney]

I'm kind of hoping the Vikings lose, don't want the idiots in the front office and coaching staff thinking Ponder deserves another season because he "lead the team to the playoffs."

Best possible outcome of this game is if it's the last game Ponder plays for the Vikings.

[MIJB#19]

Remaining scenarios for week 17 after the early games.

Atlanta
#1 seed

Baltimore
#4 seed

Chicago
MIN loss/tie => #6 seed
MIN win => OUT

Cincinnati
#6 seed

Dallas
DAL win => #4 seed
DAL loss/tie => OUT

Denver
DEN win/tie => #1 seed
DEN loss + NE loss/tie => #2 seed
DEN loss + NE win => #3 seed

Green Bay
GB win => #2 seed
GB tie + SF loss/tie => #2 seed
GB tie + SF win => #3 seed
GB loss + SF loss + SEA loss/tie => #2 seed
GB loss + SF win/tie => #3 seed
GB loss + SF loss + SEA win => #3 seed

Houston
NE loss/tie + DEN loss => #1 seed
NE loss/tie + DEN win/tie => #2 seed
NE win + DEN loss => #2 seed
NE win + DEN win/tie => #3 seed

Indianapolis
#5 seed

Minnesota
MIN win => #6 seed
MIN loss/tie => OUT


New England
NE win + DEN loss => #1 seed
NE win + DEN win/tie => #2 seed
NE loss/tie => #3 seed

New York Giants
OUT

San Francisco
SF win + GB loss/tie => #2 seed
SF win + GB win => #3 seed
SF tie + GB loss => #2 seed
SF tie + GB win/tie => #3 seed
SF loss + SEA loss/tie => #3 seed
SF loss + SEA win => #5 seed

Seattle
SEA win + SF loss + GB loss => #2 seed
SEA win + SF loss + GB win/tie => #3 seed
SEA win + SF win/tie => #5 seed
SEA loss/tie => #5 seed

Washington
WAS win/tie => #4 seed
WAS loss => OUT

[Suburban Rhythm]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Forgettable season for the Steelers, but it should be a fun offseason.

Mike Wallace, Rashard Mendenhall, Casey Hampton, Larry Foote, Batch & Leftwich, Keenan Lewis, Plaxico, and just about every reserve OL will be free agents and veterans like James Harrison, Polamalu, and Kiesel will probably be under consideration for cap casualty cuts.

I'd like to see them keep Hampton and Foote if the price is right and Keenan Lewis has been good enough to keep around if his demands are reasonable. Mendenhall is a goner and I think Wallace's holdout won't be forgotten by the Rooneys (maybe he can be franchised and dealt?).

It would be a fun FOF offseason...

I think Keisel is safe. Heyward wasn't even being rotated in most games.

Foote I wouldn't mind. Keep in mind Sean Spence will be returning from injury and I'd expect he'll give every chance to win the job.

Hampton should be gone. Too much $ for a two down player. McLendon was talked about tons...then didn't get on the field.

Lewis I think is the priority. He plays the run like the Steelers require and tied for the league lead in PDs. Ike, Lewis and Cortez Allen is very solid.

Draft wise, S/DB, OLB and WR are probably the target positions. Harrison a year older, possibly salary cap cut. Woodley hasn't been healthy in 3 years.

Wallace will need replaced. Brown, Sanders, Cotchery is solid, but another young guy would be nice.

Also think Colon is gone. Which sucks, I like how he looked at G. But Decastro is a starter, they like Foster, and Beachum was damn good as a 7th round rookie. Add in Adams and Gilbert, Pouncey and Legursky...hard to pay $6m to a guy you can't believe will play more than 10 games.

[SirFozzie]

It's at least partially incorrect, Baltimore is locked in to #4.

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

It's at least partially incorrect, Baltimore is locked in to #4.

Also there is a 0% chance of Denver losing

[kingfc22]

Niners looking really flat....

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Niners looking really flat....

Thank goodness the Vikings do not

[Desnudo]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

It will be NE or Denver in the AFC and SF or GB in the NFC. Nobody takes Houston or Atlanta seriously. Houston doesn't even have HFA anymore. They're not going to NE or Denver and beating Brady/Manning. Atlanta might be one and done depending on who they play in the divisional round. Seattle could beat them. If not, SF or GB will thrash them in the NFCCG.

Before we anoint SF let's see if they even win their division. Their injury problems plus a new qb makes Seattle a favorite to me.

[IlliniCub]

I hate having to cheer for the Packers

[kingfc22]

Arizona is following the same game plan as the Seattle.

Run left right at the RDT spot vacated by Justin Smith's injury.

[Thomkal]

Attn My Beloved Cardinals:

Don't you dare win this game when you are on your fourth QB of the season, long gone from the playoffs and in position for a possible top 5 pick in the draft.

That is all.

[Desnudo]

If the cards win and Gb loses it sets up some potentially awesome scenarios like GB @ Seattle in rd 2. Assuming Seattle also wins.

[Danny]

I am very impressed with Pryor so far.

[bulletsponge]

GB cant be serious about going for it on 4th and 11

[Danny]

Accurate throws, playing with conidence, not forcing things, great composure during the recent tussle

[kingfc22]

Kaep has been regressing the past couple of weeks...Not a good time for that.

[kingfc22]

From week 15 thread:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

Akers is going to cost them in the playoffs. Guaranteed.

Akers better not be on this team next week

[MIJB#19]

Originally Posted by Desnudo

If the cards win...

Look who's making bold predictions now.

[SirFozzie]

No one is going to make a FG in Miami-New England. 40 yard FG started wide right, ended up 5-10 yards wide left.

[BillJasper]

Miami showing their asses today in New England. What a way to end the season...

[kingfc22]

You have got to be kidding me Akers!

[Matthean]

Vikings up 10 at the half means a whole lot of Peterson in the second half.

[Danny]

Gb just wants to screw over the bears

[BillJasper]

Reid already fired apparently...

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