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Old 02-17-2015, 09:13 AM   #351
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This is why I think that there is a stat (that it is probably social) that will help whoever is in the leadership role be successful. I think that it isn't so crazy that there will be dice roles using stats for everything we do. If not there is no reason to vote anyone as the leader other than someone for meta reasons. I would be all for Jag at that point.


I probably should have read this again before posting. If the belief is that stats are really not important for a leadership role than we should just vote for leaders based on meta reasons.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:25 AM   #352
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How critical do people feel about communications with earth? It seems like the first landing attempt went haywire... EF has mentioned communications a few times. Should the engineering team be ready to get that connection back up and running? Not quite as much of a need as food maybe but could be critical to survival.

Note: Not sure how much we should be/need to be micromanaging some of these aspects. If the solar collector is our day 1 task then maybe we don't need to talk about this yet.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:26 AM   #353
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This is why I think that there is a stat (that it is probably social) that will help whoever is in the leadership role be successful. I think that it isn't so crazy that there will be dice roles using stats for everything we do. If not there is no reason to vote anyone as the leader other than someone for meta reasons. I would be all for Jag at that point.

I'm not really sure I get how you're interpreting that. I read it as saying "You should fill all the positions or you won't be as effective in the position that's vacant".
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:31 AM   #354
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How critical do people feel about communications with earth? It seems like the first landing attempt went haywire... EF has mentioned communications a few times. Should the engineering team be ready to get that connection back up and running? Not quite as much of a need as food maybe but could be critical to survival.

I'm not sure how important it is, but I'm not sure how important anything is at the moment. I think it might be useful in finding out the identity of the extra colonist but I tend to think that it's mostly flavour to show that we've isolated and we have to look after ourselves.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:37 AM   #355
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Okay I like those thoughts...

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Old 02-17-2015, 09:43 AM   #356
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Seeing as there is a large discussion about who/why to vote into the leadership position, I will explain my personal rationalization. I may be over analyzing this, but as I said when I signed up, I'm new to this.

Zinto - A CEO is sent to colonize Mars? I have to assume you weren't a successful CEO or you wouldn't have abandoned your company or the Earth for that matter. So if that is true, I have to rule you out as leader of the colony.

Thomkal - Retired Military. While some former military members have made for excellent leaders on Earth, our small colony on Mars should not need your area of expertise. Definitely a viable candidate.

Fontisian - History Professor. Not really the career I think of for a leadership role. However, the background in history may help to prevent mistakes made by colonists in a similar situation back on Earth. Another viable candidate.

CrimsonFox - Auto Mechanic. No leadership experience on Earth, probably not the background I would look at to lead on Mars.

DanGarion - Motivational Speaker? - Not really certain what his past experience on Earth was, but could have a positive impact as leader. Just need more information to make an informed decision.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:46 AM   #357
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DanGarion 3 - timmae (247), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
fontisian 3 - Shoveler (246), fontisian (292), Autumn (319)
CrimsonFox 2 - britrock88 (210), CrimsonFox (312)
Zinto 1 - Zinto (265)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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timmae 5 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
Raven 3 - Zinto (265), fontisian (292), Autumn (319)
Narcizo 1 - CrimsonFox(355)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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Grover 8 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), Zinto (265), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307), Autumn (319)
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No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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JAG 1 - Autumn (319)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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Chief Rum 5 - Shoveler (246), timmae (247), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
Autumn 3 - britrock88 (210), Thomkal (231), Zinto (265), Autumn (319)
ntndeacon 1 - CrimsonFox (297)

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Biodome 5 - Thomkal (231), DanGarion (296), CrimsonFox (297), Grover (307), Autumn (319)

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Old 02-17-2015, 09:48 AM   #358
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I'm not really sure I get how you're interpreting that. I read it as saying "You should fill all the positions or you won't be as effective in the position that's vacant".


I agree. I just also took it to mean that leaders influence how well the workers work and I am assuming that different leaders will be able to influence workers better.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:52 AM   #359
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Seeing as there is a large discussion about who/why to vote into the leadership position, I will explain my personal rationalization. I may be over analyzing this, but as I said when I signed up, I'm new to this.

Zinto - A CEO is sent to colonize Mars? I have to assume you weren't a successful CEO or you wouldn't have abandoned your company or the Earth for that matter. So if that is true, I have to rule you out as leader of the colony.

Thomkal - Retired Military. While some former military members have made for excellent leaders on Earth, our small colony on Mars should not need your area of expertise. Definitely a viable candidate.

Fontisian - History Professor. Not really the career I think of for a leadership role. However, the background in history may help to prevent mistakes made by colonists in a similar situation back on Earth. Another viable candidate.

CrimsonFox - Auto Mechanic. No leadership experience on Earth, probably not the background I would look at to lead on Mars.

DanGarion - Motivational Speaker? - Not really certain what his past experience on Earth was, but could have a positive impact as leader. Just need more information to make an informed decision.


I retired a few years ago. This expedition was a perfect opportunity for me to experience something amazing during my retirement years
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:52 AM   #360
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How critical do people feel about communications with earth? It seems like the first landing attempt went haywire... EF has mentioned communications a few times. Should the engineering team be ready to get that connection back up and running? Not quite as much of a need as food maybe but could be critical to survival.

Note: Not sure how much we should be/need to be micromanaging some of these aspects. If the solar collector is our day 1 task then maybe we don't need to talk about this yet.

From page 1 items:

Communication Equipment - Allows communication with earth when working. Can receive important information from headquarters.


We don't know how important "important information" is, but it sounds...important? It seems we're going to have to make decisions about facilities to protect based on some of what EF has said.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:58 AM   #361
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In the Spawn game, getting our research going was critical to our near victory. Had we started it earlier, we might've won. I think we'll need whatever products we might be able to obtain from this ASAP, plus it may give us flexibility in handling whatever difficulties we need to overcome, whereas the biodome is more limited in scope.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:59 AM   #362
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8 pages already! First day back at work after vacation so catching up as I can and I'll post some later on.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:00 AM   #363
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I retired a few years ago. This expedition was a perfect opportunity for me to experience something amazing during my retirement years

Oops, did I miss that from earlier in the thread? I was using your condensed list from page 6 as a reference.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:02 AM   #364
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Shoveler, thanks for summing up each Leader candidate. That is extremely helpful
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:09 AM   #365
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Shoveler, thanks for summing up each Leader candidate. That is extremely helpful

+1...would be nice to have something similar for each role if anyone has the time
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:09 AM   #366
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Chief of staff at a large hospital sounds like pretty good qualifications.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:12 AM   #367
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DanGarion 3 - timmae (247), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
fontisian 3 - Shoveler (246), fontisian (292), Autumn (319)
CrimsonFox 2 - britrock88 (210), CrimsonFox (312)
Zinto 2 - Zinto (265), JAG (361)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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timmae 6 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), DanGarion (296), Grover (307), JAG (361)
Raven 3 - Zinto (265), fontisian (292), Autumn (319)
Narcizo 1 - CrimsonFox(355)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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Grover 8 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), Zinto (265), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307), Autumn (319)
saldana 1 - CrimsonFox (355)
No Vote 2 - Thomkal (231), JAG(361)

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britrock88 3 - britrock88 (210), Zinto (265), fontisian (292)
Thomkal 3 - DanGarion (296), Grover (307), CrimsonFox (330)
Shoveler 2 - Shoveler (246), timmae (247)
JAG 2 - Autumn (319), JAG (361)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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Chief Rum 5 - Shoveler (246), timmae (247), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
Autumn 4 - britrock88 (210), Thomkal (231), Zinto (265), Autumn (319), JAG (366)
ntndeacon 1 - CrimsonFox (297)

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Government 5 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), Zinto (265), fontisian (292)
Biodome 5 - Thomkal (231), DanGarion (296), CrimsonFox (297), Grover (307), Autumn (319)
Science Center 1 - JAG (361)

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Old 02-17-2015, 10:12 AM   #368
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Checking in. I am going to get caught up on everything and then start making some votes.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:14 AM   #369
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:15 AM   #370
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I believe the stats are important for all of the jobs. And I think that some of the better folks will be not in the obvious places.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:18 AM   #371
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It looks like the decision on Doctor will ride on what everyone feels is more important--running a facility or heavy trauma experience. I can't deny that Autumn is the better beauracrat and probably a more accredited doctor.

But, IMO, what really matters is our skills, within this gameset. And I know I see enough from the skill list I was given to figure what the likely range is for worst to best. Quoting the number is not allowed, so I won't, but I will only say this--if the range that these skill numbers suggests is what I think it is, I am very skilled in the medical field.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:20 AM   #372
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Chief Rum 5 - Shoveler (246), timmae (247), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
Autumn 4 - britrock88 (210), Thomkal (231), Zinto (265), Autumn (319), JAG (366)
ntndeacon 1 - CrimsonFox (297)

FYI, EF, Autumn has 5 votes now.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:20 AM   #373
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As for my background, it is not impressive (high school football coach), however I would gain some unknown benefits in the role which is why I'm making myself a candidate. I do have experience in leading and training which one would need as a head Sherriff.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:21 AM   #374
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It looks like the decision on Doctor will ride on what everyone feels is more important--running a facility or heavy trauma experience. I can't deny that Autumn is the better beauracrat and probably a more accredited doctor.

But, IMO, what really matters is our skills, within this gameset. And I know I see enough from the skill list I was given to figure what the likely range is for worst to best. Quoting the number is not allowed, so I won't, but I will only say this--if the range that these skill numbers suggests is what I think it is, I am very skilled in the medical field.

I want you on the front lines, tending to the wounded. I would assume Autumn's stats are no worse than yours, and probably better suited for a leadership position.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:22 AM   #375
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DanGarion 3 - timmae (247), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
fontisian 3 - Shoveler (246), fontisian (292), Autumn (319)
CrimsonFox 2 - britrock88 (210), CrimsonFox (312)
Zinto 2 - Zinto (265), JAG (361)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

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timmae 6 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), DanGarion (296), Grover (307), JAG (361)
Raven 3 - Zinto (265), fontisian (292), Autumn (319)
Narcizo 1 - CrimsonFox(355)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

Engineer
Grover 8 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), Zinto (265), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307), Autumn (319)
saldana 2 - CrimsonFox (355), JAG (369)

Sherriff
britrock88 3 - britrock88 (210), Zinto (265), fontisian (292)
Thomkal 3 - DanGarion (296), Grover (307), CrimsonFox (330)
Shoveler 2 - Shoveler (246), timmae (247)
JAG 2 - Autumn (319), JAG (361)
No Vote 1 - Thomkal (231)

Doctor
Chief Rum 5 - Shoveler (246), timmae (247), fontisian (292), DanGarion (296), Grover (307)
Autumn 5 - britrock88 (210), Thomkal (231), Zinto (265), Autumn (319), JAG (366)
ntndeacon 1 - CrimsonFox (297)

Project
Government 5 - britrock88 (210), Shoveler (246), timmae (247), Zinto (265), fontisian (292)
Biodome 5 - Thomkal (231), DanGarion (296), CrimsonFox (297), Grover (307), Autumn (319)
Science Center 1 - JAG (361)

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Old 02-17-2015, 10:23 AM   #376
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Autumn - Medical Chief of Staff - More of a physician administration position. May be ideal candidate for doctor, should have developed skills working as the liaison between physician staff and hospital administration.

Chief Rum - Emergency Room Physician - Jack of all trades physician. Broad knowledge, most likely specialized in general medicine rather than a surgical specialty. Another candidate for lead doctor.

ntndeacon - Emergency Medical Technician - First responder type, perfect for triage care. May not be ideal for the doctor.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:23 AM   #377
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Chief makes a good point. we don't know for sure what the high number is. We can only make an assumption. Assuming the high number that I suspect, I am also very skilled in the medical field.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:29 AM   #378
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BTW, I don't know Autumn's qualifications beyond what he says here, of course, but I would guess he is as qualified as a doctor as he is as a medical beauracrat. I don't want to mislead and make it seem like he's just a stuffy suit with excellent organizational skills. Based on the bio he has put forth, he may indeed be the most skilled medical professional on the mission.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:29 AM   #379
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Chief makes a good point. we don't know for sure what the high number is. We can only make an assumption. Assuming the high number that I suspect, I am also very skilled in the medical field.

As an EMT you cannot even write a prescription for what little medication we might have with us. Assuming of course that our drugs were provided by the US and therefore are under the authority of the DEA even here on Mars.

Sorry, but I think your background makes you a medical grunt. I'm not willing to go under the knife with an EMT at the helm.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:31 AM   #380
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BTW, I don't know Autumn's qualifications beyond what he says here, of course, but I would guess he is as qualified as a doctor as he is as a medical beauracrat. I don't want to mislead and make it seem like he's just a stuffy suit with excellent organizational skills. Based on the bio he has put forth, he may indeed be the most skilled medical professional on the mission.

Medical Chief of Staff implies they are both a very qualified physician in their field, and have the skill set to deal with the administrative side of the hospital business.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:31 AM   #381
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I spent two years as an engineer on the ISS. I'm willing to handle the engineering aspects of our projects.

Two years, maybe you'll make a quality engineer some day!

I'm an MIT Professor of Engineering, and I'd be more than happy to lead the engineering efforts. My vast experience will be crucial to getting the Biodome up and running.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:32 AM   #382
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I am guessing if there are any medical tasks we can pick any one or more of us to do it, the leader will just be amplifying the success of our medical work. Same with many of the other positions. Sheriff and Leader seem like the ones that might work a bit differently, with perhaps Sheriff responsible for idnividually dealing with trouble.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:34 AM   #383
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:35 AM   #384
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I think that a biodome is a good start, but I highly recommend (naturally) that we get to work on a medical facility as soon as possible.

As we all know, we have a health rating, with a certain point value. That means there will be events that happen that will hurt some of us, but fall short of being actually dead. A medical facility will be critical to healing those players. Presumeably, hurt players will be much less effective in their respective tasks/responsibilities, and of course, at some low point, could even be completely out of commission as a result of their injuries.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:36 AM   #385
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Two years, maybe you'll make a quality engineer some day!

I'm an MIT Professor of Engineering, and I'd be more than happy to lead the engineering efforts. My vast experience will be crucial to getting the Biodome up and running.

Oh great, an MIT blowhard. Maybe you can wrangle up a D&D game here on Mars.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:37 AM   #386
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Medical Chief of Staff implies they are both a very qualified physician in their field, and have the skill set to deal with the administrative side of the hospital business.

Yes and no. Perhaps I have watched too many hospital procedurals, but sometimes the medical chief of staff is just a reasonable doctor who was better at politics/moving up the ladder/etc.

I just wanted to say, given that impression, that I do not believe that to be the case with Autumn.
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Oh great, an MIT blowhard. Maybe you can wrangle up a D&D game here on Mars.

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Old 02-17-2015, 10:40 AM   #388
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As an EMT you cannot even write a prescription for what little medication we might have with us. Assuming of course that our drugs were provided by the US and therefore are under the authority of the DEA even here on Mars.

Sorry, but I think your background makes you a medical grunt. I'm not willing to go under the knife with an EMT at the helm.

I agree with your point on surgery, but I am pretty sure the ability to dispense care, including drugs, will be a lot more loose on a colony on Mars. Pretty much any qualified medical professional will almost be required to have the latitude to provide whatever health care they can provide in the kind of trauma situations we are likely to see.
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Wow, botched that one..

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Old 02-17-2015, 10:41 AM   #390
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But to argue Jackal's point about being ideal for the Biodome project. Yes, we're both engineers, but has he lived in space for an extended amount of time? I'm also an astronaut, I have the knowledge of what it takes to survive in a foreign atmosphere such as Mars. I've done space walks, I've worked on and designed equipment for use in space AND put it to the test.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:42 AM   #391
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I agree with your point on surgery, but I am pretty sure the ability to dispense care, including drugs, will be a lot more loose on a colony on Mars. Pretty much any qualified medical professional will almost be required to have the latitude to provide whatever health care they can provide in the kind of trauma situations we are likely to see.

Which brings us back to the overall concept of who should be the Doctor, not acting in the capacity as a medical professional, but in charge of the whole works.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:42 AM   #392
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Shoveler, you are making a mistake to only look at the titles. (or so I believe) And that isn't just in the Doctor race. It's pretty clear that I won't be the first choice for a doctor. I do have similar concerns for the head of a hospital coming to Mars that you have with a CEO. So, if if the Doctor race is still close this evening, I will be changing my vote, assuming I am still out of the race.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:44 AM   #393
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:47 AM   #394
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But to argue Jackal's point about being ideal for the Biodome project. Yes, we're both engineers, but has he lived in space for an extended amount of time? I'm also an astronaut, I have the knowledge of what it takes to survive in a foreign atmosphere such as Mars. I've done space walks, I've worked on and designed equipment for use in space AND put it to the test.

Hey, we'll certainly need people with experience to help put things together. The point of being the lead engineer is to plan the projects, to ensure that every last detail is accounted for. How many projects have you designed?

I'm looking forwards to working with you, however there are levels of complexity in design that practical experience alone cannot give you.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:49 AM   #395
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Shoveler, you are making a mistake to only look at the titles. (or so I believe) And that isn't just in the Doctor race. It's pretty clear that I won't be the first choice for a doctor. I do have similar concerns for the head of a hospital coming to Mars that you have with a CEO. So, if if the Doctor race is still close this evening, I will be changing my vote, assuming I am still out of the race.

We don't exactly have much else to go off of at this point. Our skills are secret and not to be revealed, so I am disregarding the comments about people having what they believe are high skill sets as I don't believe that should have been mentioned.

So how else should we be evaluating each position? I don't know any of you as I have never participated in a WW game before. So my decisions are not at all influenced by how so and so did in a past game. All I can go off of is the past experience presented by each person's background.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:49 AM   #396
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Oh great, an MIT blowhard. Maybe you can wrangle up a D&D game here on Mars.

I'm also a hell of a dungeon master, for the down time.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:56 AM   #397
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:57 AM   #398
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But to argue Jackal's point about being ideal for the Biodome project. Yes, we're both engineers, but has he lived in space for an extended amount of time? I'm also an astronaut, I have the knowledge of what it takes to survive in a foreign atmosphere such as Mars. I've done space walks, I've worked on and designed equipment for use in space AND put it to the test.

I went from Grover to Jackal, then back to Grover.
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Old 02-17-2015, 11:00 AM   #400
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Two years, maybe you'll make a quality engineer some day!

I'm an MIT Professor of Engineering, and I'd be more than happy to lead the engineering efforts. My vast experience will be crucial to getting the Biodome up and running.

who invited Howard Wolowitz...welcome aboard Fruit Loops!
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