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Old 03-04-2008, 04:42 PM   #351
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Yes but you are the one proposing it. If you have a stupid idea you just may be that...
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:44 PM   #352
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Pass I want to hear why you dont like Alan T. Right now on the little evidence, I am all for Claph or Pass...Just to get someone talking...
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:53 PM   #353
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:54 PM   #354
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Hey folks, I'm out for the day now. Heads up, I have to work late tomorrow, so I'll be in a bit later as well. Should be in by 10-10:30 AM PST. I'll answer and questions then.

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Old 03-04-2008, 04:57 PM   #355
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nfg, Pass has been replaced by Thomkal.

And I do like Alan T!
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:38 PM   #356
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Well then its Thom or Claph for me. Since Pass cant answer now I guess ill just have to be split. Thanks for letting me know...
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:56 PM   #357
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in that case ill just go with Claph...

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Old 03-04-2008, 06:34 PM   #358
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:46 PM   #359
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:55 PM   #360
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:14 PM   #361
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I just remembered I'll be out of town for a 4-day weekend, and didn't think of it when I signed up.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:27 PM   #362
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finally back. Didn't really get to check the board after my lunch break. Work got busy all of a sudden.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:39 PM   #363
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doesn't look like much happened this afternoon. Dissapointed that we won't get to find out what raised Pass' eyebrows about Alan though, as I was curious to hear about that. Not sure where my vote will end up, but I've got some time I guess.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:49 PM   #364
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Wow, it has been a ghost town so far for Day 2.

ooc - I had one of the most insane days of work ever today. I'll try to get a little more involved with discussion this evening but my head is reeling.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:06 PM   #365
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Pass I want to hear why you dont like Alan T. Right now on the little evidence, I am all for Claph or Pass...Just to get someone talking...

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doesn't look like much happened this afternoon. Dissapointed that we won't get to find out what raised Pass' eyebrows about Alan though, as I was curious to hear about that. Not sure where my vote will end up, but I've got some time I guess.


In case you all missed it, that was probably one of the only topics of discussion this morning.. Pass's issues with me. He spelled them out and I addressed them. My take from the end of that conversation was that Pass seemed to understand where I was coming from and didn't seem to refute anything I responded with... and I personally was not sure what to make of Pass.

His last notes this morning seemed to indicate that he just glossed over some of my posts instead of reading fully and once it was hashed out it wasn't as big of a deal anymore. If you want, I can quote all of that, but its just as easy for anyone else to go back and read it all.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:14 PM   #366
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I think people may be afraid to slip up and becomae a target
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:14 PM   #367
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Alan, for what it is worth I find this to be a weird topic of conversation by multiple people. I'm actually more concerned with this as a diversion than I was your initial "sparring" with Pass in the first place.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:16 PM   #368
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I think its just the deadline being in the afternoon, it leaves less reason for people to pop on here in the evening. My guess is most of the conversation will occur each day between 9am EST and 2pm EST.. There wasn't much conversation today after the deadline because... well I'm not sure what most of us made from the result of the night kill.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:17 PM   #369
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Alan, for what it is worth I find this to be a weird topic of conversation by multiple people. I'm actually more concerned with this as a diversion than I was your initial "sparring" with Pass in the first place.

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Old 03-04-2008, 08:19 PM   #370
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Alan, for what it is worth I find this to be a weird topic of conversation by multiple people. I'm actually more concerned with this as a diversion than I was your initial "sparring" with Pass in the first place.

Well I have some thoughts on the subject, but haven't brought them up in case someone would call that also "being too defensive"

I'll agree that its odd to see so many people over the last two days drop hints of the kind trying to start a vote on me. I'll just stand by my previous comments regarding me being a possible easy lynch target before this game even started. Same thing happened last time I was a wolf several games in a row, suddenly I didn't live past day 3 of the next 10 games.

I'm not really expecting much different here, I'm just taking note of those who aren't necessarily leading the cause (whatever cause that is) against me, but instead are dropping subtle little innuendos about me that are far more passive-agressive.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:19 PM   #371
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Alan, for what it is worth I find this to be a weird topic of conversation by multiple people. I'm actually more concerned with this as a diversion than I was your initial "sparring" with Pass in the first place.

I was thinking along the same lines hoops
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:23 PM   #372
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I think people may be afraid to slip up and becomae a target
Do you really?
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:25 PM   #373
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Lathum, do you mean

a) lynch target
b) target of Sylar/Company

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Old 03-04-2008, 08:30 PM   #374
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Could you elaborate on this?

Sure - I thought that this was covered in the thread and I'm surprised at seeing multiple people (will go count it eventually) commenting on this being unresolved.

I'm trying to figure out if it is a by-product of not reading every post, or of just looking for something to talk about that brings up another person's name. But this is where I'm planning to spend my next few minutes, going through these posts.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:31 PM   #375
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Night kill target.

I am sure there are people who obtained information last night but are afraid to share it for fear of being targeted
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:31 PM   #376
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Sure - I thought that this was covered in the thread and I'm surprised at seeing multiple people (will go count it eventually) commenting on this being unresolved.

I'm trying to figure out if it is a by-product of not reading every post, or of just looking for something to talk about that brings up another person's name. But this is where I'm planning to spend my next few minutes, going through these posts.

If it helps save you time, here are the posts you are looking for. I had them saved for my own notes for later personally anyhows.


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VOTE NO LYNCH

seems like a no-brainer. Interested to see what Pass has to say about "the way alan is arguing" though

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I'm a little disappointed that Pass never explained what set his hairs on edge about Alan, as that seemed like a potentially fruitful discussion.

I'd also like to revisit the revealing-names idea. I know a lot of people think that their power is related to their name, but I wonder if the question gets phrased another way if they feel the same way: Would I be able to GUESS your ability if I knew your character's name?

I think we may be able to put some pressure on Sylar if we do this. The downside is that it may be possible for Sylar/The Company to identify powerful Heroes, but I'm not sure I understand how likely/possible that is.

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Old 03-04-2008, 08:32 PM   #377
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Night kill target.

I am sure there are people who obtained information last night but are afraid to share it for fear of being targeted
Perhaps. Which brings up a point I often make with No Lynch votes. So we have that info, but we as a village don't have it, so are we really better off?

Too late now especially as I helped contribute towards it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:33 PM   #378
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Its not a diversion from anything, because nobody has given us anything to talk about. I've tried to resurrect the day 1 idea of revealing character names, but nobody really wants to talk about that either.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:36 PM   #379
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Perhaps. Which brings up a point I often make with No Lynch votes. So we have that info, but we as a village don't have it, so are we really better off?

Too late now especially as I helped contribute towards it.

I'm not ready just yet to say that yesterday's no lynch was a bad thing. It seemed that the only two run aways was votes on the jackyl or a no lynch... So I think only time will tell us these two things:

1) Was Jackyl worth saving
2) Did people find out enough useful information to make that no lynch worthwhile.

I'm still thinking if enough people go an extra days worth of data to classify it as a head start so to speak, it could be worth it.. Only time will tell though. So far we definitly don't seem to have alot to go on today.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:38 PM   #380
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Its not a diversion from anything, because nobody has given us anything to talk about. I've tried to resurrect the day 1 idea of revealing character names, but nobody really wants to talk about that either.

I'll talk about it more if you want, but my mind hasn't really changed since yesterday. Reading ntn's role description after his death has done nothing but help me feel even more assure that if I know someone's role 9 times out of 10 I'll have a good idea what their power will be too..

I think that is something that might be worthwhile at some point this game, but not right now for the reasons I said yesterday and this morning.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:41 PM   #381
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Cronin, for what it is worth I'm of a mind to reveal information tomorrow about my role and data I've collected. So far I don't have anything that is going to help with the vote today (other than don't vote me!) but I'm willing to take this leap at the start of Day 3. Particularly if we aren't seeing more information revealed that is going to help narrow the field in catching Sylar or Company folks.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:41 PM   #382
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I'll talk about it more if you want, but my mind hasn't really changed since yesterday. Reading ntn's role description after his death has done nothing but help me feel even more assure that if I know someone's role 9 times out of 10 I'll have a good idea what their power will be too..

I think that is something that might be worthwhile at some point this game, but not right now for the reasons I said yesterday and this morning.

Really? I would not have guessed that the Haitian would have that ability. I would have thought he would be able to read minds, or compel a vote, or something along those lines.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:44 PM   #383
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Cronin, the Haitian blocked powers in the show as well as wiped memory.

Parkman (either Jr or Sr) would seem more likely to have the powers you are listing. Or Eden.

Haitian is one of the roles I felt very strongly about being in the game. There were about ten that I was almost sure would be in the game, maybe another half-dozen that I thought would not be in the game, and a group in the middle that I thought was questionable. But this was another topic that people didn't want to discuss much yesterday.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:46 PM   #384
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Really? I would not have guessed that the Haitian would have that ability. I would have thought he would be able to read minds, or compel a vote, or something along those lines.


I think I probably would have guessed it

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Old 03-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #385
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I thought it was the dark haired woman (forgot her name) that blocked the powers, the one that was killed when Sylar escaped from his cell. Maybe I'm remembering the show wrong.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:47 PM   #386
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I thought it was the dark haired woman (forgot her name) that blocked the powers, the one that was killed when Sylar escaped from his cell. Maybe I'm remembering the show wrong.


She had the power of persuasion.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:50 PM   #387
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Eden (dark haired woman) was with the Haitian when they caught Sylar after his throwdown with Peter at the high school. But it was the Haitian who took his powers from him and Eden who told him to sleep (think I'm remembering this correctly).

Later, Eden wanted to kill Sylar in his cell. She went in to give him a gun and tell him to shoot himself. But it didn't work out that well for her ...
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:51 PM   #388
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Ok, I guess I'm convinced that its a bad idea to reveal names. I still think it might help us to out Sylar, but maybe the cost isn't worth it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:58 PM   #389
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hoops: I think discussing which names are in the game would be useful but I don't know the show and thus couldn't contribute to the conversation.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:14 PM   #390
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I am also a hero. and my power seems close the show.

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The Company may well have a list of players, but didn't our great leader let us know he wasn't going to give skylar a false name to use. That seems to imply that he won't be given those playing either.

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I dont think they will know who is in the game. At least I dont think sylar knows. werent we told he would not be given a name not in use

I'm guessing the Company was taking their shot at Sylar last night when they targeted NTN. I haven't gone through all of his posts, but I did see these as I was re-reading some of the content from yesterday.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:28 PM   #391
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Hoops, I thought Sylar couldn't be night-killed?

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Old 03-04-2008, 09:29 PM   #392
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dola, unless you think they were trying to find out if he WAS Sylar. But you would think if that was their suspicion that they would simply try to vote him.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:53 PM   #393
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Cronin, I can't find anything else in NTN's posts that suggests why he would be the night-kill.

If you are the Company, you need to get rid of both groups. You know that NTN is not a member of your group. So you think he might be Sylar, and you take your shot. If you are wrong, you just kill a hero. No harm, no foul. If you are right, you have identified Sylar early in the game and can begin working on getting him voted off the island.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:55 PM   #394
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Also, I count 13 posts from people commenting on whether or not their roles correspond to the powers in the show. Most do, a few don't.

I'm OK with posting my notes on this if people want me to do so. Of course, it provides info for the wolves as well if they haven't already been conducting this exercise.
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Old 03-04-2008, 09:59 PM   #395
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Also, I count 13 posts from people commenting on whether or not their roles correspond to the powers in the show. Most do, a few don't.

I'm OK with posting my notes on this if people want me to do so. Of course, it provides info for the wolves as well if they haven't already been conducting this exercise.


I have similar notes as well so it doesn't matter to me one way or another if you do. I think that type of information once again isn't that harmful though to the heroes as long as roles are not revealed. Once we get to revealing roles however, that type of information becomes pretty dangerous in the wrong hands.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:08 PM   #396
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OK, here are my notes. Alan, if you have some others to plug in please do. Also, I think I posted this but did not write it down for my own notes - I'm a hero in game and hero on show. I have not commented on closeness of powers up to this point.

Alan - character was a good guy on show (83)
Lathum - power lines up with show (85)
Grey - power somewhat close to show (88)
Cronin - power doesn't match up with season one (103), nobody would guess power if given name (348)
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Render - hero, worthless power (113)
BK - hero, power crammed into WW (114), revealing name would not give away power (123)
nfg - power pretty useless (168)
MrW - power reasonable extrapolation from show (179)
Chief - hero, similar power to show, only seen first few episodes (208)
DT - part of powers logical, part is a leap (266)
AE - doesn't have night power (270), role is passive of sorts, thinks there are others out there like him (287)
SnDvls - character name would not indicate powers (344)
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:10 PM   #397
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That was very ardentistic, hoops. I approve.

Sadly, I haven't seen/we don't have any new hard information and I know I'll be at a hospital during my work day tomorrow.

This vote isn't based on anything right now, but it's a placeholder in case I forget in the morning before I head to work. Hopefully, we'll have some information by the morning. Surely someone got something worthwhile.

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Old 03-04-2008, 10:13 PM   #398
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Ok still haven't caught up with the old posts, but I want to make clear this whole Alan/Pass disagreement has nothing to do with me. There's nothing from the initial PM or Pass's first action that would suggest to me any reason to distrust Alan (or anyone else) at this point. I like Alan and I read his posts.

So if you are considering voting for me based on Pass's posts, please don't-Pass thought there was something suspicious in Alan's posts. I have no information from Pass on what that was, and will not be pursuing his arguments.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:13 PM   #399
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I thought it was more Ardent-esque than ardentistic. But Ardent is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:16 PM   #400
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Ok still haven't caught up with the old posts, but I want to make clear this whole Alan/Pass disagreement has nothing to do with me. There's nothing from the initial PM or Pass's first action that would suggest to me any reason to distrust Alan (or anyone else) at this point. I like Alan and I read his posts.

So if you are considering voting for me based on Pass's posts, please don't-Pass thought there was something suspicious in Alan's posts. I have no information from Pass on what that was, and will not be pursuing his arguments.


Don't worry, Pass seemed to reconcile things with me pretty well before he left the game, so I wasn't looking hard in his or your direction anyways. I have plenty of other people that are begging to be looked at whom seem to like throwing out my name without any reason what so ever anyhows
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