2023 NFL Regular Season Thread - Page 10

albionmoonlight · 09-25-2023, 12:30 PM

First day out. ⚜️ pic.twitter.com/tLSzQF8JFX
— Alvin Kamara (@A_kamara6) September 25, 2023

Players love making these celebration videos when their suspensions end. But it always seems a little weird to me when you remember why they were suspended in the first place (here, for beating the crap out of a dude in Vegas).

GrantDawg · 09-25-2023, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Taylor Swift having an affair with Mahomes and single-handedly ending the Chiefs dynasty would be the most 2023 thing ever.

Can we make thid happen? I want it to happen.

JPhillips · 09-25-2023, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Taylor Swift having an affair with Mahomes and single-handedly ending the Chiefs dynasty would be the most 2023 thing ever.

Mahomes' brother.

Edward64 · 09-25-2023, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Can we make thid happen? I want it to happen.

Fair chance it'll happen without any external influences.

CrimsonFox · 09-25-2023, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Can we make thid happen? I want it to happen.

On the bob and tom show tom kept saying that Taylor was dating Kelce's mom.

CrimsonFox · 09-25-2023, 05:58 PM

I don't think burrow will play the whole game

CrimsonFox · 09-25-2023, 06:35 PM

My head is exploding with the stupidity of whatever marketing moron decided there needed to be another color of uniform for prime time games

JPhillips · 09-25-2023, 08:09 PM

What the hell has happened to the Bengals? Both the offense and defense look like they've taken huge steps back.

Atocep · 09-25-2023, 08:27 PM

The Rams/Bengals game is just really bad football all around.

Ksyrup · 09-25-2023, 09:10 PM

This game is so bad Chris Fowler felt compelled to call a TD pass on a play that was clearly blown dead for a TO. Like a reverse 2022 Al Michaels call.

NobodyHere · 09-25-2023, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

What the hell has happened to the Bengals? Both the offense and defense look like they've taken huge steps back.

The Bengals are just reverting to their natural state.

CrimsonFox · 09-25-2023, 09:33 PM

*doink*

stevew · 09-25-2023, 10:10 PM

Get off my lawn but the Rams punter having to wear #42 so a bunch of low talent defensive backs can wear single digits is dumb. Also #0 is also ridiculous.

CrimsonFox · 09-25-2023, 10:11 PM

Wtf are the bengals doing. Delay of game plus 2 clown runs

CrimsonFox · 09-25-2023, 10:22 PM

Here comes the bengals loss

miami_fan · 09-27-2023, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Anyone know where Taylor swift was yesterday?

I feel like the conspiracy theory that Swift and Kelce are not really dating and are just doing this to get attention is an insult to all conspiracy theorists and everything they stand for.

miami_fan · 09-27-2023, 11:57 AM

Useless but interesting (to me) fact that I read today. Four of the seven Bears head coaches post Ditka won a AP/UPI coach of the Year award during their time with the Bears.

Dave Wannstedt-1994 (UPI NFC award)
Dick Jauron-2001
Lovie Smith- 2005
Matt Nagy- 2018

That ties them with the head coaches of the New England Patriots have also won four COY awards.

Bill Parcells-1994 (UPI AFC award)
Bill Belichick-2003, 2007, 2010

Carman Bulldog · 09-28-2023, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Knowing everything we know now, which guy would you have picked in their draft: Tua or Burrow?

Herbert?

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 07:15 PM

Let's goooo Lions!

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 07:39 PM

It's been a whole half-a-quarter, but that Lions defense is manhandling the Packers offense, in Lambeau.

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 08:03 PM

Ksyrup · 09-28-2023, 08:09 PM

GO FOR 71!

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 08:42 PM

Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-28-2023, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women.

Yes!!!!!

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 09:04 PM

Would hate to lose Branch, didn't look good the way he was grabbing his achilles

Atocep · 09-28-2023, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

Useless but interesting (to me) fact that I read today. Four of the seven Bears head coaches post Ditka won a AP/UPI coach of the Year award during their time with the Bears.

Dave Wannstedt-1994 (UPI NFC award)
Dick Jauron-2001
Lovie Smith- 2005
Matt Nagy- 2018

That ties them with the head coaches of the New England Patriots have also won four COY awards.

Bill Parcells-1994 (UPI AFC award)
Bill Belichick-2003, 2007, 2010

Wanny was the premier assistant coach in football when the bears hired him. He was able to sell ownership on a rebuild to get younger and more athletic. They surprised in year 2 and with him being the young, hot assistant at the time there was a lot of hype with that 9-7 year and a playoff berth, but he never got over the hump because Wanny was Wanny.

Jauron had the flukiest year I've ever seen in 2001. Everything that could have gone right, went right and they won 13 games. A-Train ran for 1200, Marty Booker came out of nowhere at receiver, and Urlacher and Mike Brown had their breakout years. Jauron didn't have another winning season as a head coach.

Lovie was arguably the best coach the Bears have ever head. I'd put him over Ditka, but it was time to move on. Offenses were opening up and his defense was never the same. He also never managed to put a decent offense on the field and it felt like he was trying a new OC every year.

Nagy was Nagy. Seemed like a decent guy and the players liked him. He just wasn't a good coach and there always seemed to be a disconnect between him and Pace (the GM).

Ksyrup · 09-28-2023, 09:32 PM

Bears/Commanders sounds like a bored Al Michaels special.

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 09:34 PM

Momentum is shifting in this game

NobodyHere · 09-28-2023, 09:54 PM

Which way?

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Which way?

OK, I think they might be safe now.

NobodyHere · 09-28-2023, 10:09 PM

Yeah the Lions are giving a masterclass on crushing the fanbase right now. They're letting the media give them tons of hype right now and sooner or later they're just going to start being their usual selves.

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 10:13 PM

Who's going to beat them in their division? There's always been an obvious answer to that question, tell me who it is now? They don't have to win 10 games, they just have to win this division.

NobodyHere · 09-28-2023, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

Who's going to beat them in their division? There's always been an obvious answer to that question, tell me who it is now?

The same team it is every season Pinky. The team that will beat the Detroit Lions is the Detroit Lions.

They're cursed. Any long time Lion's fan knows this.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-28-2023, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

Who's going to beat them in their division? There's always been an obvious answer to that question, tell me who it is now? They don't have to win 10 games, they just have to win this division.

Agreed. We can host our first playoff game since the early 90’s!

thesloppy · 09-28-2023, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The same team it is every season Pinky. The team that will beat the Detroit Lions is the Detroit Lions.

They're cursed. Any long time Lion's fan knows this.

Well, at least you've got it figured out, being miserable early.

Thomkal · 09-29-2023, 06:41 AM

From the bandwagon:

Go Lions!

Honolulu_Blue · 09-29-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The same team it is every season Pinky. The team that will beat the Detroit Lions is the Detroit Lions.

They're cursed. Any long time Lion's fan knows this.

I'll be 50 in a few months and have been a Lions fan my whole life. The first Super Bowl I can recall watching was the 1980 Super Bowl between the Rams and Steelers, so that's, at least, 43 years of Lions fandom.

They may be cursed, but I can't take this mindset. It's just not fun. I was nervous as hell during that 3rd quarter, but I cracked a 16 oz PBR right after the Packers pulled within 10 and it settled both me and the Lions right down.

Actually good Lions teams are so few and far between, you've gotta embrace and enjoy the ride when they actually come around!

JPhillips · 09-29-2023, 10:43 AM

I like this idea that your drinking effects the team. Have you thought that maybe you just need to drink way more than you have been?

molson · 09-29-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Actually good Lions teams are so few and far between, you've gotta embrace and enjoy the ride when they actually come around!

"Holy shit, this team is actually good!" is maybe the most fun sports fandom experience. Honestly, the way up was more memorable for me than any of my teams winning it all.

flere-imsaho · 09-29-2023, 11:56 AM

The Lions are a good team getting better. Lions fans should be cautiously optimistic about winning their division. My main concern would be thinking there's a good chance of going deep in the playoffs. This is still a team without a lot of playoff experience. This is still a building year from that perspective.

thesloppy · 09-29-2023, 12:28 PM

I think by this point most Lions fans' standards for 'success' is simply getting into the playoffs & anythnig beyond that is gravy.

CrimsonFox · 09-29-2023, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I like this idea that your drinking effects the team. Have you thought that maybe you just need to drink way more than you have been?

It's called Sportsball-goggling.

CrimsonFox · 09-29-2023, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

The same team it is every season Pinky. The team that will beat the Detroit Lions is the Detroit Lions.

They're cursed. Any long time Lion's fan knows this.

Don't we collectively own the Lions?

Ryche · 09-29-2023, 12:47 PM

Detroit will almost certainly win the division but I think Goff kind of limits their upside still. He's the type of QB that can get you to a Super Bowl with a great defense behind him but that's going to be hard to build while he is under contract.

Maybe he can get them there before they have to extend his current contract. Have to think with the current market that next contract will be 40 million plus per year.

GrantDawg · 09-29-2023, 01:04 PM

If you can only win a Super Bowl if you have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, then why bother? Those guys aren't growing on trees. Jared Goff took one team there, and it wasn't just him that caused that loss. If the Lions are being "held down" it is not by Goff.

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Thomkal · 09-29-2023, 01:13 PM

The Chandler Jones story gets murkier:

https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...00878449635805

Raiders issue a call for support and prayers for him while stating this is now a legal matter.

bronconick · 09-29-2023, 01:27 PM

I mean, there are three (3) current Super Bowl winning starting quarterbacks. Two are 34+ years old. 4 more have made it and lost. It ain't easy.

flere-imsaho · 09-29-2023, 02:31 PM

In the past 10 years, the following QBs have started for a team that played in the conference finals:

Carson Palmer
Andrew Luck
Matt Ryan
Josh Allen
Cam Newton
Joe Burrow
Peyton Manning (Denver)
Aaron Rodgers
Ryan Tannehill
Blake Bortles
Patrick Mahomes
Jared Goff
Matthew Stafford
Case Keenum
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Nick Foles
Jalen Hurts
Ben Roethlisburger
Jimmy Garoppalo
Russell Wilson

Minus maybe Bortles, every QB on that list was both competent and not prone to being actively detrimental to their team's chances (like, Kirk Cousins is generally competent and then does something to blow up your chances on a predictable basis).

So, you definitely don't need a Brady/Mahomes/Rodgers, but if you do it's kind of a cheat code that a) gives you cushion in-game when stuff goes against you and b) allows you to focus team-building elsewhere.

As you go through the list, the extent to which each QB allows you to do a) and/or b) varies, but it's always there to some extent.

JPhillips · 09-29-2023, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

"Holy shit, this team is actually good!" is maybe the most fun sports fandom experience. Honestly, the way up was more memorable for me than any of my teams winning it all.

Definitely true. The Bengals run two years ago was the most fun I think I've ever had as a fan.

CrimsonFox · 09-29-2023, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Definitely true. The Bengals run two years ago was the most fun I think I've ever had as a fan.

Bengals super bowls runs are one of the biggest reasons I quit rooting for "a team" and even liking watching sports that much. First Anderson year...then Boomer and Collinsworth....they just live to disappoint

09-25-2023, 12:30 PM	#451
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	First day out. ⚜️ pic.twitter.com/tLSzQF8JFX — Alvin Kamara (@A_kamara6) September 25, 2023 Players love making these celebration videos when their suspensions end. But it always seems a little weird to me when you remember why they were suspended in the first place (here, for beating the crap out of a dude in Vegas).

09-25-2023, 08:09 PM	#458
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	What the hell has happened to the Bengals? Both the offense and defense look like they've taken huge steps back. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

09-25-2023, 09:10 PM	#460
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	This game is so bad Chris Fowler felt compelled to call a TD pass on a play that was clearly blown dead for a TO. Like a reverse 2022 Al Michaels call. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-27-2023, 11:57 AM	#467
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Useless but interesting (to me) fact that I read today. Four of the seven Bears head coaches post Ditka won a AP/UPI coach of the Year award during their time with the Bears. Dave Wannstedt-1994 (UPI NFC award) Dick Jauron-2001 Lovie Smith- 2005 Matt Nagy- 2018 That ties them with the head coaches of the New England Patriots have also won four COY awards. Bill Parcells-1994 (UPI AFC award) Bill Belichick-2003, 2007, 2010 __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

09-28-2023, 07:15 PM	#469
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Let's goooo Lions! __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-25-2023, 05:58 PM	#456
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I don't think burrow will play the whole game

09-25-2023, 06:35 PM	#457
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	My head is exploding with the stupidity of whatever marketing moron decided there needed to be another color of uniform for prime time games

09-25-2023, 08:27 PM	#459
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	The Rams/Bengals game is just really bad football all around.

09-25-2023, 09:33 PM	#462
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	doink

09-25-2023, 10:10 PM	#463
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Get off my lawn but the Rams punter having to wear #42 so a bunch of low talent defensive backs can wear single digits is dumb. Also #0 is also ridiculous.

09-25-2023, 10:11 PM	#464
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Wtf are the bengals doing. Delay of game plus 2 clown runs

09-25-2023, 10:22 PM	#465
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Here comes the bengals loss

09-28-2023, 07:39 PM	#470
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	It's been a whole half-a-quarter, but that Lions defense is manhandling the Packers offense, in Lambeau. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-28-2023, 08:03 PM	#471
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	__________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-28-2023, 08:09 PM	#472
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	GO FOR 71! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-28-2023, 08:42 PM	#473
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-28-2023, 09:04 PM	#475
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Would hate to lose Branch, didn't look good the way he was grabbing his achilles __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-28-2023, 09:32 PM	#477
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Bears/Commanders sounds like a bored Al Michaels special. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

09-28-2023, 09:34 PM	#478
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Momentum is shifting in this game __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-28-2023, 09:54 PM	#479
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Which way? __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-28-2023, 10:09 PM	#481
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Yeah the Lions are giving a masterclass on crushing the fanbase right now. They're letting the media give them tons of hype right now and sooner or later they're just going to start being their usual selves. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

09-28-2023, 10:13 PM	#482
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Who's going to beat them in their division? There's always been an obvious answer to that question, tell me who it is now? They don't have to win 10 games, they just have to win this division. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM. Last edited by thesloppy : 09-28-2023 at 10:15 PM.

09-29-2023, 06:41 AM	#486
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	From the bandwagon: Go Lions! __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

09-29-2023, 10:43 AM	#488
JPhillips General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I like this idea that your drinking effects the team. Have you thought that maybe you just need to drink way more than you have been? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

09-29-2023, 11:56 AM	#490
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	The Lions are a good team getting better. Lions fans should be cautiously optimistic about winning their division. My main concern would be thinking there's a good chance of going deep in the playoffs. This is still a team without a lot of playoff experience. This is still a building year from that perspective.

09-29-2023, 12:28 PM	#491
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	I think by this point most Lions fans' standards for 'success' is simply getting into the playoffs & anythnig beyond that is gravy. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

09-29-2023, 12:47 PM	#494
Ryche College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO, USA	Detroit will almost certainly win the division but I think Goff kind of limits their upside still. He's the type of QB that can get you to a Super Bowl with a great defense behind him but that's going to be hard to build while he is under contract. Maybe he can get them there before they have to extend his current contract. Have to think with the current market that next contract will be 40 million plus per year. __________________ Some knots are better left untied.

09-29-2023, 01:04 PM	#495
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	If you can only win a Super Bowl if you have Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, then why bother? Those guys aren't growing on trees. Jared Goff took one team there, and it wasn't just him that caused that loss. If the Lions are being "held down" it is not by Goff. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

09-29-2023, 01:13 PM	#496
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	The Chandler Jones story gets murkier: https://twitter.com/NFL_DovKleiman/s...00878449635805 Raiders issue a call for support and prayers for him while stating this is now a legal matter. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

09-29-2023, 01:27 PM	#497
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	I mean, there are three (3) current Super Bowl winning starting quarterbacks. Two are 34+ years old. 4 more have made it and lost. It ain't easy.

09-29-2023, 02:31 PM	#498
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	In the past 10 years, the following QBs have started for a team that played in the conference finals: Carson Palmer Andrew Luck Matt Ryan Josh Allen Cam Newton Joe Burrow Peyton Manning (Denver) Aaron Rodgers Ryan Tannehill Blake Bortles Patrick Mahomes Jared Goff Matthew Stafford Case Keenum Tom Brady Drew Brees Nick Foles Jalen Hurts Ben Roethlisburger Jimmy Garoppalo Russell Wilson Minus maybe Bortles, every QB on that list was both competent and not prone to being actively detrimental to their team's chances (like, Kirk Cousins is generally competent and then does something to blow up your chances on a predictable basis). So, you definitely don't need a Brady/Mahomes/Rodgers, but if you do it's kind of a cheat code that a) gives you cushion in-game when stuff goes against you and b) allows you to focus team-building elsewhere. As you go through the list, the extent to which each QB allows you to do a) and/or b) varies, but it's always there to some extent.

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