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I don't hate the deal for the 49ers - half a season to see if a young guy who has shown flashes can be your franchise QB for the price of a second is an OK deal
That being said, it's another brilliant move by the Pats as usual. As pointed out above if Brady goes down nobody is winning a playoff game with that defense. So he gets what is likely the 33rd pick in the draft - anyone want to bet they get a QB on the second day who is even more highly rated than Jimmy G is after a couple of carefully cultivated preseason games and mop up appearances and the cycle repeats itself? The only curious timing is if Brady retires after this year but still, you think Belicheck is letting a guy go like that if he believes he's good enough to win with? |
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Shouldnt Paxton Lynch be seeing the field sometime soon?
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In theory it seems ok for the niners but with the success of Belichek and his trades I wouldnt trust the situation all that much. If he thought Jimmy G was a potential star would he have any reason to trade him right now? |
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10-30-2017, 09:17 PM | #254 |
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If that happens, they could always just try to sign Garappolo again. Last edited by molson : 10-30-2017 at 09:18 PM. |
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And Zeke is now suspended again! What a soap opera....
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We literally have no other QB, not even on the practice squad. (Though it does sound like the 49ers will be releasing Brian Hoyer, who would be fairly familiar with the system.) |
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10-30-2017, 09:34 PM | #257 |
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Because we can't afford to pay our backup QB what he'll command in free agency, and I guess they finally realized Handsme Jimmy wasn't looking to take a big discount.
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10-31-2017, 07:43 AM | #258 | |
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And they waited literally as long as possible to trade him. If they dealt him two years ago, I would question it. But they tried to cash at last year's draft and didn't get the first they sought, so they waited as long as they could short of giving him a franchise tag that they couldn't actually afford. There was no reason to sell off a cheap asset before they needed to. |
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And they got to look at half a season of Brady before pulling the trigger. Since Brady is playing like he's 25, that makes the decision much easier. |
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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Dolphins trade Pro Bowl running back Jay Ajayi to the Eagles for a fourth-round pick.
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is there a reason they would do this that Im not understanding? They are 4-3 and in the playoff race and trade what has been their only consistent weapon. |
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Other than this being the worst 4-3 team out there? At best, they have a repeat of last year, barely getting to the playoffs and getting destroyed in the wild card. With the team having to play the Patriots twice, the Bills twice, and the Chiefs they might as well dump some salary, call the kids from the minors and see what they have for the future.
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Well if this was their mindset they fucked up their entire process. 4-3 is probably the best they could have expected to start with what they came into the season with. If they wanted to tank the season they should have went to "the kids from the minors" from the very start and got themselves a high draft pick. |
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And they have no QB. If any of them were playing well, it might be worth seeing how things go. Instead, sell high on a RB who a huge year last year and isn't playing to that level this time around. |
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I think they would disagree with the best they could have expected part. I think I could have gotten a consensus on them beating the Jets twice prior to the start of the season and prior to Tannehill's injury. I also think I would have gotten the same consensus on them scoring more than zero points against the Saints and Ravens combined. Finally I don't think many people believed the Bills would be this good prior to the season. IIRC the Bills were supposedly tanking the season and setting Tyrod Taylor up for failure. I don't think they wanted to tank the season from the start. I think they believe they would at least host wild card game and be able to sneak around the Pats if they had any injuries. Given what the season has become, they may think that is the best outcome. Let's be honest, Gase was not a believer in Ajayi. Remember, Arian Foster was the opening day starter last year. Ajayi couldn't get the ball in the read zone this year which is problematic. The real question moving forward is if and when the offensive genius is going to start making the Dolphins a different team offensively than what they have been for the last 15 years.
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Financially wise I'm not sure what the niners have to do with Jimmy G. Basically you could argue that any contract that they would do with him has to start by at least incorporating one franchise tag into the math. and you could make a strong case that if that was all the guaranteed money he was going to receive, he would be better playing out a tag in 2018 and hitting the market in 2019. So I don't know what the niners do. Do you just hit him right now with a 6 year 120 million dollar deal and guarantee 35 million of it or something? He seems very unproven but has had decent results in a limited amount of time. The Niners do have a ton of cap space to burn this off season. But if you're going to give Garoppolo at least 20 million dollars a year on a long-term contract, you may as well just back up a Brinks truck in front of Kirk Cousins. Cuz cousins is at least proven to be a quarterback that can produce at a high rate and is pretty sturdy.
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Gase prefers RBs that can catch the ball out of the backfield and pass block. Ajayi does neither and had lost his 3rd down snaps. He's also a free agent after next year and if they did decide to trade him this was probably the best they were going to do considering the fact he's going to want a long term deal soon. If he was given things to work on, failed to do so, and they decided to move him based on the factors I mentioned then getting what you can instead of wishing you traded him earlier so that you could have gotten a 3rd rounder instead of a 4th is pointless. |
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I don't get the Benjamin trade either. Crazy doings in the NFL today.
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Me either. Not like the Panthers have a bunch of receivers ready to step up in his place. Maybe a contract thing?
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Funchess has looked much improved the last few weeks, and McCaffrey's been okay catching balls out of the backfield, but even if you don't want two "big" WR's none of the others like Curtis Samuel have shown anything yet. Weird trade for a team that seems like it'll be in the thick of a division and wild card race and doesn't get Greg Olsen back for a few more weeks. But there have been several very questionable moves out of Carolina's front office the past few months. |
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So the Bengals agreed to deal McCarron to the Browns, but the Browns didn't phone the trade in. There is nothing more Browns than that.
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Last I saw was that the Browns never offered more than a second last year, which is pretty funny considering some of the biggest Belichick mouthpieces in the press were claiming that they were going to get the 1.1 for him. |
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Browns were said to agree to send a second and third round pick for AJ. I think the Browns own multiple second and third round selections, but that seems like a very steep price
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I still believe Belichick wanted Garoppolo starting next season. I take this development as a rare instance of Kraft overruling him. Belichick delayed as long as he could, but eventually had to pull the trigger.
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I’m not sure how to read this - it’s basically blackmail...
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It's basically settlement negotiations, tbh.
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So now, based on the narrative of his own lawyer, if he signs it wouldn't be based on merit, it would only be because of legal threats. I'm sure that would be great situation every coach would love to take on down the stretch.
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Isn't Kaepernick probably one of the best 25 healthy quarterbacks out there? That seems fairly obvious. Some team should give him a chance based 100% on his level of skill.
I bet the Texans bite. He would be a compliment to Watson's skill set in case of injury. Their owner is already in a world of shit anyways. He should just take one for the team and sign CK cuz it makes football sense and Mcnair's situation is so bad anyways. |
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It would seem the Patriots have a sudden need for a backup QB...
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He's back...
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(I also wonder which of the 5 consecutive Pro Bowl seasons before Garoppollo was drafted Brady sucked in. Admittedly, 2013 was an off year with only 4350 yards, a 61% completion %, 25/11 td/int ratio & a 12-4 record, but considering Kenbrell Thompkins, Aaron Dobson & Michael Hoomanawanui were targets 2-4 for most of the season I give him a slight pass in retrospect And the 4 before that he had QB ratings between 96.2 & 111.0) |
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Ugh Rapaport saying Deshaun Watson may have tore his ACL at practice today. MRI coming.
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The Colts have officially given up on the season, put Luck on IR
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Yiiiiikes. This guy should be more popular than the SI cover guy.
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Surely as the injuries pile up, and the trading deadline now past, someone's going to sign Kap right?
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