All-NCAA: Consolidated D1/D2/D3 universe

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 11:09 PM

I got the wild hair the other night to consolidate D1/D2/D3 into one universe. It works okay so far. I started the universe in 2014 and have simmed now to what will be the 2024-25 season.

It's hard to even know where to start in a universe like this. Outside of the first season, there haven't been any D2 or D3 teams winning national titles, the natural order is relatively staid.

All of the D1 conferences get autobids to the NCAAs, D2 and D3 don't which obviously raises the level of difficulty a bit for them.

NJIT was the only D1 independent left and I put them into America East, so Independents could stay a level 1 conference and it's comprised entirely of D2 and D3 schools.

I'm not even sure how to tackle this monster, because there's just SO MANY teams but...I think rather than try to do this like a traditional dynasty, I'll just issue various challenges and see how successful each of them tends to be.

I also used korme's coaches file to seed the game. John Wooden ended up coming back from the dead as an assistant for a few years, until I made him human and retired him for good.

Anyway, this might be a league where I constantly revisit. Mostly because I went through a half-decent amount of work to integrate them all and to see it work at all, I figure I have to do something with it.

So we'll see what challenges I come up with.

Stay tuned.

Izulde · 05-13-2013, 11:10 PM

I'd be interested in getting this universe file.

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izulde

I'd be interested in getting this universe file.

alldivisions_ncaa.zip

Young Drachma · 05-13-2013, 11:15 PM

Don't expect to sim quickly using this league. Even without box scores on, it doesn't move especially fast to get through the seasons with this many teams in tow. But it's sort of fun to see the non-conference matchups for good teams just because of the sheer number of teams.

There are like 1040-something teams, 99 conferences and 46 holiday/pre-season tournaments total to boot. Can't even decide what the hardest, yet most realistic way to play would be with THIS many teams. Still sorting that out.

Izulde · 05-14-2013, 06:14 AM

You know I'm insane enough to try running a Zeroed Out dynasty with this, right?

Young Drachma · 05-14-2013, 05:33 PM

The minor teams haven't caused too much havoc, which I'm okay with.

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National Semifinals Champs

 Season   Bracket   Team                Bracket   Team              
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 2024     West      Texas               Midwest   Alabama           
          East      St. Joseph's (ME)   South     Michigan          
 2023     West      Providence          Midwest   Butler            
          East      Missouri            South     UAB               
 2022     West      Butler              Midwest   Michigan          
          East      Old Dominion        South     UCLA              
 2021     West      California          Midwest   Butler            
          East      Ohio State          South     Old Dominion      
 2020     West      Florida             Midwest   Wisconsin         
          East      Duke                South     Villanova         
 2019     West      Saint Mary's        Midwest   California        
          East      Florida             South     Gonzaga           
 2018     West      Northern Iowa       Midwest   Butler            
          East      Duke                South     Baylor            
 2017     West      Syracuse            Midwest   Wisconsin         
          East      West Virginia       South     Georgetown        
 2016     West      Kansas              Midwest   Miami             
          East      UCLA                South     Duke              
 2015     West      Texas               Midwest   Western Michigan  
          East      Georgetown          South     Duke              
 2014     West      Xavier              Midwest   Winona State      
          East      Georgetown          South     Findlay

Young Drachma · 05-14-2013, 05:44 PM

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ST. JOSEPH'S (ME) TEAM PERFORMANCE

  Season Team                  W   L  CW  CL  Rank  RPI  PRS Result                          
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    2024 St. Joseph's (ME)    34   4  16   2    12   10   38 Loss in NCAA Championship Game  
    2023 St. Joseph's (ME)    12  17   6  12   736  771   25 No Postseason                   
    2022 St. Joseph's (ME)    15  15  10   8   527  819   28 No Postseason                   
    2021 St. Joseph's (ME)    12  18   8  10   776  920   29 No Postseason                   
    2020 St. Joseph's (ME)    13  17  10   8   692  731   31 No Postseason                   
    2019 St. Joseph's (ME)    21  11  12   6   255  358   31 No Postseason                   
    2018 St. Joseph's (ME)    20  10  13   5   243  492   29 No Postseason                   
    2017 St. Joseph's (ME)    25   7  14   4    97  212   26 No Postseason                   
    2016 St. Joseph's (ME)    21  11  13   5   223  436   22 No Postseason                   
    2015 St. Joseph's (ME)    23   9  15   3   208  411   18 No Postseason                   
    2014 St. Joseph's (ME)    20  12  10   8   257  386   14 No Postseason

Sooo weird.

Ramzavail · 05-14-2013, 09:18 PM

Haha what

britrock88 · 05-14-2013, 09:53 PM

This is solid!

Young Drachma · 05-14-2013, 10:35 PM

Champs so far:

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NCAA Champs

 Season   Team                       Record Opponent                   Score
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 2024     Texas Longhorns              32-6 St. Joseph's (ME) Monks    80-74
 2023     Butler Bulldogs              39-1 UAB Blazers                94-69
 2022     Michigan Wolverines          36-3 Butler Bulldogs            82-70
 2021     California Golden Bears      32-7 Butler Bulldogs            84-59
 2020     Villanova Wildcats           31-7 Wisconsin Badgers          79-71
 2019     Saint Mary's Gaels           27-9 California Golden Bears    88-72
 2018     Butler Bulldogs              36-3 Northern Iowa Panthers     62-37
 2017     Syracuse Orange              34-5 Wisconsin Badgers          83-77
 2016     Duke Blue Devils             34-5 UCLA Bruins                71-53
 2015     Texas Longhorns              30-8 Georgetown Hoyas           71-65
 2014     Winona State Warriors        32-6 Xavier Musketeers          63-54

Young Drachma · 05-14-2013, 10:54 PM

Butler and Brad Stevens are dominating the map.

Two interesting real-life coaching people. Shaka Smart is a top coach, but stuck at VCU where the A10 isn't doing them any favours.

Spoiler

Meanwhile, Dunk City Andy Enfield got fired at USC and has spent two years as an assistant at Georgetown.

Spoiler

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COACH DETAILS

 Andy Enfield - Coaching Assistant - Georgetown
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 Age:             54
 High School:     Shippensburg High School
 Hometown:        Shippensburg, PA
 Alma Mater:      Johns Hopkins
 
 Current Level:   9
 Career Record:   220 - 145
 Salary:          $140,846
 
 Recruiting:      C 
 Scouting:        A-
 Offense:         A+
 Defense:         C 
 
 Coaching History:
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 Season Team                     Position      W   L  CW  CL  Postseason
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 2024   Georgetown               Assistant    24  10   9   3  Loss in NCAA Elite Eight
 2023   Georgetown               Assistant    29   5   9   3  Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen
 2022   Southern California      Head Coach   17  15   8  10  No Postseason
 2021   Southern California      Head Coach   17  15   7  11  No Postseason
 2020   Southern California      Head Coach   25  12   9   9  NIT 3rd Place
 2019   Southern California      Head Coach   19  13   8  10  No Postseason
 2018   Southern California      Head Coach   25  11  10   8  Loss in NCAA Round of 32
 2017   Southern California      Head Coach   19  15   8  10  No Postseason
 2016   Southern California      Head Coach   19  13   8  10  No Postseason
 2015   Southern California      Head Coach   21  10  10   8  No Postseason
 2014   Southern California      Head Coach   17  14   7  11  No Postseason
 
 Awards & Achievements:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Season   Award
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          No awards won.
 
 Job Movement:
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 Season   Move
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 2023     Hired by Georgetown (Assistant Coach)
 2023     Fired by Southern California
 2014     Hired by Southern California (Head Coach)

I think I'd like possibly do a challenge with one or both of them taking over programs and seeing how those programs do with either at the helm. Another possible scenario I'm imagining is me taking over a super-level program and trying to bolster them into top prestige class.

But with this many teams and this much parity, the scenarios are endless, really. The NIT is still the NIT, but the CIT and CBI are the D2 and D3 tournaments respectively.

Young Drachma · 05-14-2013, 11:26 PM

Pitt-Johnstown is the highest rated school not in a D1 conference. They play in the Pennsylvania State Athetlic Conference. Here's how they've done so far:

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PITTSBURGH-JOHNSTOWN TEAM PERFORMANCE

  Season Team                     W   L  CW  CL  Rank  RPI  PRS Result                      
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    2024 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    22   9  15   3   187  308   54 No Postseason               
    2023 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    25   7  15   3    43   50   56 Loss in NCAA Round of 32    
    2022 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    34   4  18   0    11   19   52 NIT Champion                
    2021 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    29   7  15   3    35   34   51 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen  
    2020 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    27   9  12   6    42   37   45 Loss in NCAA Sweet Sixteen  
    2019 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    28   6  14   4    42   56   39 Loss in NIT Round 2         
    2018 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    21  11  12   6    66   62   40 Loss in NIT Round 1         
    2017 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    22  11  12   6    63   58   43 Loss in NIT Round 1         
    2016 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    23  10  13   5    92   83   47 Loss in NIT Round 1         
    2015 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    17  13  11   7   344  307   51 No Postseason               
    2014 Pittsburgh-Johnstown    10  18   6  12   824  550   58 No Postseason

Young Drachma · 05-14-2013, 11:38 PM

I think we're going to send Enfield to Rutgers. The game never fired Mike Rice, Jr., so we'll do that now. I have no idea where to send Shaka. VCU is a 78 prestige school. I could put them in a better league or I can move Shaka someplace and see if he can handle the big time.

DavidCorperial · 05-14-2013, 11:52 PM

Could place him at UCONN, another highly skilled coach at a smaller school, just like Jim Calhoun.

Young Drachma · 05-15-2013, 12:11 AM

Good call on UConn.

They fired Kevin Ollie four seasons ago (he's now an assistant at Gonzaga) and Tommy Amaker took over for him and in four years, he's got a Sweet 16 appearance and nothing else to show for it. (He left Harvard for Quinnipiac) So it seems like it'd be a good idea to drop Amaker from the label, I doubt they'd tolerate that sort of relative futility in 3 out of 4 years post-Calhoun.

So we'll put Shaka at UConn and see how that goes for him.

Young Drachma · 05-15-2013, 12:57 AM

As you can imagine, Bubble Watch when there are over 1000 schools is sort of insane.

Given the sheer number of schools, even regular season champions out of most leagues will often go without a post-season appearance of any kind because there just aren't enough spots.

Look at these tournament resumes, as we are two days from Selection Sunday:

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OVERALL BUBBLE WATCH

 Team                   Record        RPI  vs. 1-50  vs. 51-100  vs. 101-200  vs. 200+  SOS  Projected
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 Winona State             24-6  .582 (49)       0-0         1-1          2-2      21-3  391         In
 Mount St. Mary           26-5  .604 (21)       0-0         0-0          3-0      23-5  383         In
 St. Cloud                24-6  .579 (55)       0-1         1-0          1-2      22-3  534         In
 Massachusetts Coll.      26-5  .591 (34)       0-0         0-0          1-1      25-4  485         In
 Western Michigan        21-10  .594 (28)       2-4         1-1          4-2      14-3   52         In
 Iona                     23-9  .579 (53)       1-0         4-3          4-1      14-5  210         In
 Rochester Tech           26-5  .591 (32)       0-0         0-0          0-0      26-5  342         In
 DePaul                  19-11  .583 (47)       2-5         2-1          3-2      12-3   21         In
 George Fox               24-7  .592 (30)       0-2         0-0          7-0      17-5  157        Out
 Grand Valley State       25-7  .585 (45)       0-0         3-0          1-1      21-6  354        Out
 Cincinnati               22-7  .572 (69)       1-1         6-2          1-2      13-2  229        Out
 VCU                     21-10  .573 (65)       3-7         1-0          2-2      14-1   83        Out
 George Mason             21-9  .582 (50)       1-5         1-0          0-0      19-4  131        Out
 Prairie View A&M         22-9  .582 (48)       1-2         0-1          4-1      17-5  155        Out
 Lake Erie               22-10  .577 (59)       1-3         0-0          0-2      21-5  129        Out

Young Drachma · 05-16-2013, 07:59 PM

For bad schools, the D3/CIT tournament is still the holy grail.

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D3 Champs

 Season   Team                          Record Opponent                        Score
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 2025     Lenoir-Rhyne Bears              29-7 LeMoyne-Owen Magicians          79-71
 2024     Catholic Cardinals              27-8 North Park Vikings              77-59
 2023     Columbus State Cougars          27-9 York (PA) Spartans              72-55
 2022     Capital Crusaders               27-8 Stillman Tigers                 72-66
 2021     Humboldt State Jacks           26-10 Texas-Dallas Comets             84-76
 2020     Widener Pride                  25-10 Whittier Poets                  62-43
 2019     Findlay Oilers                  28-8 Missouri Southern Tigers        85-57
 2018     C.W. Post Pioneers              28-9 Bowie State Bulldogs            79-72
 2017     Florida Southern Mocs          24-12 New Mexico Highlands Cowboys    67-66
 2016     Colorado Christian Cougars      29-7 Crown Storm                     66-53
 2015     Clark Atlanta Panthers         23-13 Texas-Dallas Comets             69-58
 2014     Augusta State Jaguars           32-5 BYU-Hawai'i Seasiders           48-47

Young Drachma · 05-16-2013, 08:20 PM

UConn and Shaka went 17-14 in year 1. Enfield went 19-14 at Rutgers.

Young Drachma · 06-03-2013, 01:10 AM

So I finally settled on creating two schools in Vermont. The College of Windham is located in Southern Vermont in Brattleboro. Saint Anne's University is in Grand Isle County in North Hero.

They're rivals.

I took the two highest rated coaches without jobs and stuck them onto those programs.

I think rather than the normal storyline of -- guy takes over team, guy coaches team and wins with team and so forth -- I wanted to do a storyline where it's just a team that's not even in a conference, not that good, in a state with no natural recruiting advantage and in a university with a bazillion teams.

I just wanted to see them develop, play the storylines out and see if something sticks. It just feels more real to me, in that way.

I'm going to sim the first four years and then we'll pick up the story in Year 5.

05-13-2013, 11:10 PM	#2
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I'd be interested in getting this universe file. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-14-2013, 06:14 AM	#5
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	You know I'm insane enough to try running a Zeroed Out dynasty with this, right? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-13-2013, 11:15 PM	#4
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Don't expect to sim quickly using this league. Even without box scores on, it doesn't move especially fast to get through the seasons with this many teams in tow. But it's sort of fun to see the non-conference matchups for good teams just because of the sheer number of teams. There are like 1040-something teams, 99 conferences and 46 holiday/pre-season tournaments total to boot. Can't even decide what the hardest, yet most realistic way to play would be with THIS many teams. Still sorting that out.

05-14-2013, 09:18 PM	#8
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	Haha what

05-14-2013, 09:53 PM	#9
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	This is solid!

05-14-2013, 11:38 PM	#13
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I think we're going to send Enfield to Rutgers. The game never fired Mike Rice, Jr., so we'll do that now. I have no idea where to send Shaka. VCU is a 78 prestige school. I could put them in a better league or I can move Shaka someplace and see if he can handle the big time.

05-14-2013, 11:52 PM	#14
DavidCorperial High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Stamford, CT	Could place him at UCONN, another highly skilled coach at a smaller school, just like Jim Calhoun.

05-15-2013, 12:11 AM	#15
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Good call on UConn. They fired Kevin Ollie four seasons ago (he's now an assistant at Gonzaga) and Tommy Amaker took over for him and in four years, he's got a Sweet 16 appearance and nothing else to show for it. (He left Harvard for Quinnipiac) So it seems like it'd be a good idea to drop Amaker from the label, I doubt they'd tolerate that sort of relative futility in 3 out of 4 years post-Calhoun. So we'll put Shaka at UConn and see how that goes for him.

05-16-2013, 08:20 PM	#18
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	UConn and Shaka went 17-14 in year 1. Enfield went 19-14 at Rutgers.

06-03-2013, 01:10 AM	#19
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	So I finally settled on creating two schools in Vermont. The College of Windham is located in Southern Vermont in Brattleboro. Saint Anne's University is in Grand Isle County in North Hero. They're rivals. I took the two highest rated coaches without jobs and stuck them onto those programs. I think rather than the normal storyline of -- guy takes over team, guy coaches team and wins with team and so forth -- I wanted to do a storyline where it's just a team that's not even in a conference, not that good, in a state with no natural recruiting advantage and in a university with a bazillion teams. I just wanted to see them develop, play the storylines out and see if something sticks. It just feels more real to me, in that way. I'm going to sim the first four years and then we'll pick up the story in Year 5.

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