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Old 02-04-2007, 08:08 AM   #1
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Survivor: Lupus Tribal Thread

All members of the Lupus tribe may read and post here. Messages to the tribe and tribal council will also be held in this thread.

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Old 02-04-2007, 11:06 AM   #2
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Hey guys. Normal villager dude checking in. I don't think I need to post in blue in this thread, but I will just in case.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:17 AM   #3
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Just checking in, also.

Everyone make sure to fill in the "Meet the Survivors" thing, in case it could be a challenge or something.
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:30 AM   #4
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Yep. Just did it.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:49 PM   #5
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:13 PM   #6
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Checking in, posted my response to the challenge. Waiting on rum now i think to do his then our team is set. I think we would be the first team done too.
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:28 PM   #7
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[code=blue]Hey everyone. Checking in. I'm not a wolf! Oh wait![/code]
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:29 PM   #8
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Gonny try that again...

Hey everyone. Checking in. I'm not a wolf! Oh wait!

Much better...[/
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:44 PM   #9
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chief, go post in the Meet The Survivors Thread
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:02 PM   #10
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I'm gobsmacked by how good our team is.
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:19 PM   #11
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I'm gobsmacked by how good our team is.

I think we have a good bunch here...i think we will do very well this game. Still waiting on chief to complete the challenge though, but i no longer think we will be the first team done. We could have been, which i think might have netted us a reward. But alas, it shouldnt be a major issue this early.
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Old 02-04-2007, 09:33 PM   #12
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I think this challenge is going to be some kind of "How well do you know your teammates" deal. So we should probably start looking at each others' answers and try to learn something about each other.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:10 PM   #13
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I think this challenge is going to be some kind of "How well do you know your teammates" deal. So we should probably start looking at each others' answers and try to learn something about each other.

Good thinking.

Everyone study up a bit. This seems like a pretty logical first challenge.
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:21 PM   #14
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Favorite:

Movie: Meet Joe Black
Book: To The Last Man
TV Show: Spin City
Computer Game: Americas Army
Game in the FOF Series:The College Years
FOFC Werewolf Game: X-Com
Season of Surivvor: 1
Sports Team: Missouri Tigers
Non-alcoholic drink: Diet Dr. Pepper
Pizza Topping: No Cheese and Extra Sauce(its good, really)

Screen Name: Swaggs
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Favorite:
Movie: L.A. Confidential
Book: The Stand
TV Show: The Office
Computer Game: OOTP6.5 (online league)
Game in the FOF Series: TCY
FOFC Werewolf Game: Tombstone/X-Com
Season of Surivvor: Austrailian Outback
Sports Team: West Virginia Mountaineers
Non-alcoholic drink: Diet Sunkist
Pizza Topping: Ham/Pineapple

Screen Name: KWhit
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Favorite:
Movie - Casablanca
Book - 1984
TV Show - The Office
Computer Game - Oblivion
Game in the FOF Series - 2K7
FOFC Werewolf Game - Spawn
Season of Survivor - First
Sports Team - Georgia Bulldogs
Non-alcoholic drink - Coffee (black)
Pizza Topping - Italian Sausage

Screen Name:Anxiety
Tribe: Lupus

Favorite:
Movie - Donnie Darko
Book - Dracula or Lucifer's Hammer
TV Show - Babylon 5
Computer Game - FM
Game in the FOF Series - FOF2k1, because it had expansion!
FOFC Werewolf Game - The Middle Earth Game
Season of Surivvor - Never watched it
Sports Team - The Jaguars or the Mountaineers
Non-alcoholic drink - Coke with Lime
Pizza Topping - No preference, don't eat it much
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Old 02-04-2007, 10:21 PM   #15
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the 4 posted so far, so you dont have to go hunting for them
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:20 AM   #16
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chief, go post in the Meet The Survivors Thread

Yeah, I was cutting in and out before having to run off to work. I knew I had until Monday night, so I decided I would wait until now before going into that thread.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:21 AM   #17
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Good thinking.

Everyone study up a bit. This seems like a pretty logical first challenge.

But the answers would be right here for us all to see. Unless we're on the honor system with that. I don't see any other way we would have that as a challenge.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:31 AM   #18
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My "Meet The Survivors" post:

Screen Name: Chief Rum
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Movie: The Shawshenk Redemption
Book: Any of the Lord of the Ring books
TV Show: The Simpsons
Computer Game: Football Manager 2006
Game in the FOF Series: FOF 2005 (the one before the current)
FOFC Werewolf Game: Tombstone
Season of Surivvor: Australia
Sports Team: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Non-alcoholic drink: Pepsi (but I never drink it anymore)
Pizza Topping: Pepperoni
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:54 AM   #19
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Just a nonsense post to move us up to the top of the "most posts in our tribal thread" list. Take that, Oz (who can't read this anyway).
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:41 AM   #20
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:28 PM   #21
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Well, i hope we avoided the elmination tonight...i hope you all found all 5 and made sure they would count.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:57 PM   #22
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Welcome to tribal council. During tribal you will get to experience the wit and intellect of our special TC host, hoopsguy. He'll be here to help lead discussion and you must answer any question he asks. Of course you're perfectly welcome to debate with each other as well.

Tribal council has officially begun and will have a 10 PM Eastern deadline tomorrow. You may vote and unvote freely, but all votes MUST be PM'ed to me (NOT to hoopsguy) with the name of who you are voting for. Please also include your tribe's name (to make life easy for me). Tribal council will go on simultaneously with the next reward challenge so you'll have to work together even as you're voting out one of your own.

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Old 02-05-2007, 10:00 PM   #23
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Well that sucks.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:05 PM   #24
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This does suck. It looked like we almost made it into second place, but couldn't overcome the numbers the top two tribes had.

It stinks that the bottom two tribes have to vote someone out.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:21 PM   #25
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Guys, it looked like you made a really good run at it, given that the competition had bigger numbers. What do you think you could have done differently that might have pushed you over the top and kept you from being in this position right now?
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:26 PM   #26
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Do we both have to vote someone out, or just 1 member from the two tribes combined?
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:29 PM   #27
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Do we both have to vote someone out, or just 1 member from the two tribes combined?
Both tribes vote out one of their own members.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:29 PM   #28
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Guys, it looked like you made a really good run at it, given that the competition had bigger numbers. What do you think you could have done differently that might have pushed you over the top and kept you from being in this position right now?

I think the obvious answer for me would have been to try and pull one of the extras into our fold. We finished a mere 1-2 points off the lead, despite having 1 less man(and as such 5 less answers). I think a little effort in this regard would have swung us out of this position, and possibly into the leader spot.

The games not fair, barkeep told us that, and today it smacked us in the face. Our goal now is to smack back, as we have a pretty solid group here and i think we can do some damage if the following challenges arent so numbers based.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:31 PM   #29
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Anyone volunteered for barkeep yet as to whatever he has planned? Barkeep asked for a volunteer, and i havent seen any discussion yet. Ill volunteer if not, im always happy to compete for tribe lupus(and hopefully restore this slight we have suffered)
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:32 PM   #30
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Blade, you posted an idea about the snaking responsibilities for pictures that was latched onto by all of the other teams. Do you think this may have inadvertantly helped the competition more than it did your team - given that there were two teams that already had more resources?

Any changes for how you plan to communicate in the general thread, going forward?
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:35 PM   #31
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Anyone volunteered for barkeep yet as to whatever he has planned? Barkeep asked for a volunteer, and i havent seen any discussion yet. Ill volunteer if not, im always happy to compete for tribe lupus(and hopefully restore this slight we have suffered)
Please remember that you are NOT to post whether you have volunteered. That might be why there's been no discussion about it. Of course it might be because no one's volunteered as well
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:36 PM   #32
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Blade, you posted an idea about the snaking responsibilities for pictures that was latched onto by all of the other teams. Do you think this may have inadvertantly helped the competition more than it did your team - given that there were two teams that already had more resources?

Any changes for how you plan to communicate in the general thread, going forward?
To be honest, right now i dont feel too bad about what occured. Ill be quite honest, as i may be dead soon anyways. We have wolves in this game, barkeep confirmed that. As such, for all i know my team has 2-3 wolves on it. Im going to continue to do my best for myself and my team, but im not going to be too cut-throat against the other teams until i figure out a bit more clearly where i need to be attacking. If the wolves used my idea to win, it sucks and im upset. If my idea helped villagers remain safe and gain the seer role im quite pleased.

To summarize, i think i helped them...but im not yet sure it was a bad thing.

For now i dont quite know a better communication method. A possible route would be to wait until the deadline and do everything then(observing other teams actions), but im not sure this team has the availability to do undertake such a plan as OZ did today.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:37 PM   #33
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Please remember that you are NOT to post whether you have volunteered. That might be why there's been no discussion about it. Of course it might be because no one's volunteered as well

Whoops, im sorry...forget i said that then
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:55 PM   #34
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Anyone else want to answer those questions? Anyone else around tonight?
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:19 PM   #35
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Have you seen anything in either this thread or in the main thread that has you thinking someone is a wolf? I've hosted a few seasons of Survivor in the past and we have never had a problem with Werewolves ... I'm pretty sure that sort of thing is an urban legend.

Heck, it is hard enough to survive and outlast your fellow HUMAN competitors! And if someone was able to survive a meeting with werewolves then I would certainly expect their posts to count.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:27 PM   #36
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Have you seen anything in either this thread or in the main thread that has you thinking someone is a wolf? I've hosted a few seasons of Survivor in the past and we have never had a problem with Werewolves ... I'm pretty sure that sort of thing is an urban legend.

Heck, it is hard enough to survive and outlast your fellow HUMAN competitors! And if someone was able to survive a meeting with werewolves then I would certainly expect their posts to count.
Yes, i have begun to notice small trends with players that could potentially lead to wolfish behavior. Whats difficult here is even the wolves wanted immunity. To be honest, i feel i gleaned more from those who did poorly or contributed very little then those who were very active. I think this game is going to twice as hard as normal, as im trying to work on who i trust before who i distrust.

Dont tease, the post count issue is sensitive to some other members. I mean, i TOTALLY dont care, but i heared some other people were pissed off that i lost that many posts...i mean they lost
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:32 AM   #37
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A little late to the questions, but I agree with Blade on the first question. I definitely think our only shortcoming in this challenge was not lobbying to get the "free agent" players into our tribe. We played very efficiently and have a strong team, so the lack of numbers is really the only thing I saw that kept us from winning.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:33 AM   #38
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As for the werewolves, I'm not thinking about them a whole lot just yet. I'm just hoping to get our team, as intact as possible, into the merge (assuming their is one) or to progress as far as we possibly can.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:59 AM   #39
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Man, I'm pissed (just generally, not at anyone specific). We got screwed today, and I think BK will even admit it isn't entirely our (my) fault.

I sent in the commissioner pics, and fell for BK's poor wording. I even pointed it out in my PM that it was ambiguous, but I was short on time and couldn't wait for a PM from him to be sure. I should have played it safe (I found a site with four of the five commissioners on it on the same page). Anyway, instead of sending in the one link with the four (with another for Goodell), I sent in individual pics for all five.

BK counted it as picture links per commissioner link, rather than all falling under the one "commissioners" category. As it was my third category, we got points for the first two (Manning commercial, Lombardi trophy) I sent in (and maybe got partial credit for the commissioners, not sure; BK only accepted the first three commish pics), but got nothing for my last two (Super Bowl XLI coin, The Catch).

I'm really bummed about how it went. Those pics could have been the difference. I'm so sorry guys.

And on that note, I might as well make the offer of being the sacrifical lamb. Not for that so much, but my car's battery is acting up, meaning I have to use a lot of my free time tomorrow getting it fixed (car won't even start) before work at night. And then Wednesday I work at my other job (before hte main one), also limiting my time. Given today's error and the next two days, it just makes sense to me that you all should vote me off.

Now, if someone totally blows it here or reveals to be a wolf and you would rather vote them off, I would love to stay. But assuming nothing like that comes up, I would understand and even offer to be that sacrifice.

Sorry again, guys. Hopefully Lupus can survive, because this a really strong group.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:49 AM   #40
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The winner will hold back the werewolf herd
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:48 AM   #41
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Have you seen anything in either this thread or in the main thread that has you thinking someone is a wolf? I've hosted a few seasons of Survivor in the past and we have never had a problem with Werewolves ... I'm pretty sure that sort of thing is an urban legend.

Heck, it is hard enough to survive and outlast your fellow HUMAN competitors! And if someone was able to survive a meeting with werewolves then I would certainly expect their posts to count.


I tend to think that there is perhaps some incentive for the wolves to try to lose the challenges. I don't know if that's true or not, but it seems like it would be a good gameplay mechanic (not to get too meta-game or anything)...

If that's the case, Lathum's coming out of the blue saying "I already sent in my pics, and oops, they're repeats of a bunch that have already been sent in" is kind of fishy. I suppose Rum's mistake could be construed as fishy as well, especially when followed by the "make me the sacrificial lamb" post (that kind of thing ALWAYS seems suspicious to me). But I'm not ready to cast real suspicion on Rum yet, as the mistake seems to be an easy one to make.

Of course my thinking all hinges upon whether or not the wolves would try to win a challenge or lose one. I'm not sure at this point on how I feel about that. It's entirely possible that wolves would be trying to win the challenges just as hard (because to actively try to lose a challenge would quickly put your head on the chopping block).

Anyway, it's something to be on the lookout for, because I could totally see some scenarios in which the wolves would want to lose challenges for their teams.
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:56 AM   #42
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On to today's reward challenge. In Werewolf words are important. It's how you decide who might be a wolf or how a wolf can save himself (or herself) from getting the ax. Today's challenge will test your abilities to use words. Each tribe is to pick a theme and you will then write four poems on that theme.

One poem will be an acrostic of at least 6 lines, one a limerick, one an 8-20 line poem with a rhyme scheme, and one a haiku.

The poems are due by 7 PM today here in the thread. You may post your poems all at once or separately as the day goes on, but once a poem is posted it may not be changed.

Posted for reference.

We need to choose a theme now. It needs to be something that has broad appeal to FOFC as a whole as BK said we may have guest judges.

Let's brainstorm a bit to what our theme should be.

Also, I'd like to take the 8-20 line poem with a rhyme scheme if that's all right with everyone.
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:01 AM   #43
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Some ideas for a theme (and my thoughts on them in parenthesis):

Football (probably too obvious)
FOF2007 (see above)
FOFC and the people who post here (could be funny, but not unique)
Music (wide range of possibilities, broad appeal)
A Day at the Workplace (something everyone can relate to, possiblity of humor)
Computer/Video Games (near and deal to all our hearts)
The Life of a WW Player (could be some funny self depricating humor here)


I also think that we HAVE to make these humerous (with a bit of heart or nostalgia thrown in). But humor is the way to win this challenge I think.

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Old 02-06-2007, 09:18 AM   #44
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I like the Life of a WW Player myself, that's some good thinking. I think your humor insight is solid.
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We...uh...should probably start working on this soon, right?
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I feel bad, but I doubt I'm going to be able to help much with this one. I don't have constant access from work and can't really do something, like put together a poem (not to mention four), in a matter of minutes.

This would have been a good challenge for a weekend, but I'm not feeling real good about our chances of getting anything done today.

I guess we should, at least, pick a topic. I like the idea of the Life of a WW Player, but w/ guest judges, it may not go over too big with them. I would probably vote for that one, though.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:33 PM   #47
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Tell ya what, let me go ahead and toss one out there.

This is using the Day in teh Life of a WW PLayer theme. A Haiku is 5-7-5 right?


A Wolf in the Hand
Is Worth Two in the Bushes
Unless You Get Hanged

Don't be too clever
They'll get you for being nice
If you are two-faced

The wife is asleep
A Night Action you must keep
The forums you creep


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Old 02-06-2007, 01:41 PM   #48
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I will see if I can get an arcostic together...
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:52 PM   #49
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Alright... I feel pretty cheesy about this, but it will be better than nothing, I guess:

Lest you be chosen,
You shall hide amongst the masses,
Not so much that you are marked as...what is the word?
Conspicuous. That is it.
He who barks the loudest leads the charge,
Even though wolves are often known to bark, themselves.
Death awaits the most popular. The rest will hope to see another day.
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:54 PM   #50
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Abe, yours is really good.

If you guys like mine, feel free to submit it.

I need to go in about 10 minutes, but will be back on for a few minutes after 4:00.
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