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Old 10-07-2006, 05:40 PM   #1
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Read about the inagural season of the St. Louis Billikins!!

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Old 10-07-2006, 05:59 PM   #2
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As usual, I had typed up some stuff on losing staff and stupid internet gave me a page not found error. Sheesh.. I really need to remember to save my work. GAH!
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:11 PM   #3
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:22 PM   #4
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:30 PM   #5
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Missouri wanted no part of St. Louis, neither did Illinois.

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2005 St. Louis Schedule Rival: Joplin Stadium Capacity: 28,000 Season Tickets Sold: 200 Week Opponent 2 at Marshall 3 ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM 4 at Rutgers $$5 JOPLIN $$7 at Independence $$8 ST. JOSEPH $$10 SPRINGFIELD $$11 at Cape Girardeau $$12 at Kansas City $$13 JEFFERSON CITY 14 at (49) Syracuse Home Games in ALL CAPS

Hey, we sold 200 season tickets!!

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Old 10-07-2006, 06:34 PM   #6
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The 2005 Pre-Season Roster
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Hawkins, Scott 7 QB So* 13 13 McWilliams, J.T. 15 QB Fr 13 62 Wanat, Reuben 3 QB Sr 12 13 Wright, Freddie 4 QB Sr* 7 7 Linquist, Kennedy 16 QB Sr* 2 22 Morton, Gary 38 RB Sr 24 24 Lane, Jim 39 RB Jr 21 32 Kaplan, Jeff 46 RB Sr 19 19 Wilson, Skip 35 RB Fr 16 60 Doran, Jumbo 30 RB So* 15 22 Hayes, Thurman 32 FB Jr 28 28 Grant, Ethan 47 FB Fr 27 41 Moorman, Kendall 29 FB So 11 11 Pritchett, Chad 41 FB So* 7 38 Villasenor, Claude 91 TE So 28 28 Lucas, Bennie 92 TE Jr 23 32 Marsh, Juan 89 TE Sr 11 11 Keefe, Don 96 TE So 6 7 Bitkowski, Gary 80 WR Jr 23 23 Blackwell, R.J. 84 WR Sr 18 18 Hastings, Bernie 8 WR Jr* 11 18 Manning, Jeremy 87 WR Sr* 8 8 Valle, Dave 81 WR* Fr 15 44 Dillon, Malcolm 82 WR* Jr* 10 24 Cash, Juan 9 WR* So 8 8 Flowers, Jesse 5 WR* So 2 2 Winters, Juan 52 C Fr 18 57 Reese, Ricky 54 C Jr* 12 38 Talley, Nicky 64 G Sr* 17 17 Talley, Bernard 65 G Fr 13 51 Wilks, Darnell 67 G Sr 11 11 Finley, Adam 61 G Fr 3 38 Higginbotham, Roger 68 G So 3 7 Horner, Wally 72 G So* 1 27 Thomas, Juan 71 T Jr 46 61 Bauer, Rico 62 T Sr 15 15 Meyer, Cornell 73 T Fr 7 53 Covington, Norbert 60 T Jr* 1 11 Glenn, Rich 66 T* Sr 20 29 Gerhardt, Karl 1 P Jr* 16 23 Graveson, Mercury 6 P Fr 12 73 Cochrane, Leonard 12 K Sr* 36 36 Gaines, Devin 13 K Sr* 33 43 Griffin, Shawn 10 K* Sr 30 34 Castillo, Troy 74 DE Sr 39 43 Hadley, Brian 99 DE Sr 21 21 Stuart, Marty 78 DE Sr 17 17 Kitchings, Lamar 94 DE Fr 7 30 Latimer, Tommy 76 DE* Sr* 10 24 Walters, Edgar 75 DE* Jr* 9 9 Rivera, Roosevelt 98 DT Sr 15 15 Beeson, Jeffrey 97 DT Fr 10 27 Raymond, Courtney 70 DT* Jr* 4 7 Dyson, Shaun 90 DT* So 0 0 Stevenson, Jackie 43 ILB Fr 9 59 Yamada, Brad 40 ILB* So* 9 27 Pauley, Jamal 44 ILB* Jr* 4 4 Rose, Darnell 57 ILB* Jr* 3 3 Hackett, Jared 42 OLB Sr* 9 18 Banks, Tito 58 OLB Sr* 8 11 Lee, Cornell 51 OLB Fr 7 44 Williamson, Ed 59 OLB So* 7 30 McWilliams, Mitchell 53 OLB* Sr 13 16 Burns, Leo 56 OLB* So* 3 3 Whitfield, Austin 26 CB Sr 20 42 McMurtry, Carlton 37 CB Fr 11 34 Woodson, Joel 27 CB Jr* 7 7 Ward, Burt 34 CB* So 11 11 Strong, Edgar 24 CB* So 2 10 Spann, Antonio 36 S Jr* 21 26 Collins, Fred 22 S So* 12 37 Barker, Wes 23 S Fr 10 56 Harness, Herman 21 S Fr 8 48 King, Brandon 48 S Jr 7 27 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on. ** before name - Player is in danger of becoming academically ineligible.

Ok coaches, let me know what you would like done with your respective units.
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Old 10-07-2006, 06:37 PM   #7
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Here is who we lost coming into this year:

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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Flannery, Shawn 28 RB Sr 28 32 Frazier, Alan 21 RB Sr 22 34 Poland, Levon 50 C Sr 35 35 Toro, Kurt 63 G Sr 21 29 Keller, Christian 14 P Sr 37 37 McCray, Kirk 94 DT Sr 9 19 Grant, Gerald 55 ILB Sr 19 19 Thrasher, Matt 93 OLB Sr 34 51 Rose, William 20 CB Sr 21 21 Martin, Harry 49 S Sr 21 25 McBride, Leroy 43 S* Sr 25 25
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Old 10-07-2006, 07:51 PM   #8
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate
Hawkins, Scott 7 QB So* 13 13
McWilliams, J.T. 15 QB Fr 13 62
Wanat, Reuben 3 QB Sr 12 13
Wright, Freddie 4 QB Sr* 7 7
Linquist, Kennedy 16 QB Sr* 2 22
The future is now. Give him the team.


Morton, Gary 38 RB Sr 24 24
Lane, Jim 39 RB Jr 21 32

Kaplan, Jeff 46 RB Sr 19 19
Wilson, Skip 35 RB Fr 16 60
Doran, Jumbo 30 RB So* 15 22
I'm tempted to say put Wilson in the lineup. Either that or redshirt him. He's our 4th best, but playing two a lot. We were lucky to be injury free last year, but that's never a guarantee.


Hayes, Thurman 32 FB Jr 28 28
Grant, Ethan 47 FB Fr 27 41
Moorman, Kendall 29 FB So 11 11
Pritchett, Chad 41 FB So* 7 38
I doubt Hayes would translate to much as a RB, but it might be enough to RS Wilson. That would give us 4 backs to play...and give Grant the chance to start.

Villasenor, Claude 91 TE So 28 28
Lucas, Bennie 92 TE Jr 23 32

Marsh, Juan 89 TE Sr 11 11
Keefe, Don 96 TE So 6 7
At least our starters are good. Get me some bodies here, coach.


Bitkowski, Gary 80 WR Jr 23 23
Blackwell, R.J. 84 WR Sr 18 18
Hastings, Bernie 8 WR Jr* 11 18
Manning, Jeremy 87 WR Sr* 8 8
Valle, Dave 81 WR* Fr 15 44
Dillon, Malcolm 82 WR* Jr* 10 24
Cash, Juan 9 WR* So 8 8
Flowers, Jesse 5 WR* So 2 2
So, uh, anyone need a receiver?


Winters, Juan 52 C Fr 18 57
Reese, Ricky 54 C Jr* 12 38
Like his upside, but we're not going to be good this year.


Talley, Nicky 64 G Sr* 17 17
Talley, Bernard 65 G Fr 13 51

Wilks, Darnell 67 G Sr 11 11
Finley, Adam 61 G Fr 3 38
Higginbotham, Roger 68 G So 3 7
Horner, Wally 72 G So* 1 27
We've got depth, but not much here. Talley brothers start.


Thomas, Juan 71 T Jr 46 61
Bauer, Rico 62 T Sr 15 15

Meyer, Cornell 73 T Fr 7 53
Covington, Norbert 60 T Jr* 1 11
Glenn, Rich 66 T* Sr 20 29
Run behind the big man all day. We'll run our toss his way and counter away from him. Defenses will never buy that we'd run AWAY from blocking of Thomas.


Gerhardt, Karl 1 P Jr* 16 23
Graveson, Mercury 6 P Fr 12 73
Redshirting Mercury doesn't do us that much good, as we'll end up with a walkon.


Cochrane, Leonard 12 K Sr* 36 36
Gaines, Devin 13 K Sr* 33 43
Griffin, Shawn 10 K* Sr 30 34

I can't tell, can we redshirt one of these guys? If we can, do it. Otherwise, we'll need a kicker next season.
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Old 10-07-2006, 07:56 PM   #9
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Old 10-07-2006, 07:57 PM   #10
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Mercy, I wish we had those seniors back for another year.

We got worse this year on offense. At least our future looks better.
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Old 10-07-2006, 09:36 PM   #11
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Yeah, it's going to take awhile to get good all-around... but like you said, I'll concentrate on Missouri first and foremost.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:39 AM   #12
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate
Hawkins, Scott 7 QB So* 13 13
McWilliams, J.T. 15 QB Fr 13 62
Wanat, Reuben 3 QB Sr 12 13
Wright, Freddie 4 QB Sr* 7 7
Linquist, Kennedy 16 QB Sr* 2 22
The future is now. Give him the team.
I assume you're talking about JT McWilliams?

Morton, Gary 38 RB Sr 24 24
Lane, Jim 39 RB Jr 21 32
Kaplan, Jeff 46 RB Sr 19 19
Wilson, Skip 35 RB Fr 16 60
Doran, Jumbo 30 RB So* 15 22
I'm tempted to say put Wilson in the lineup. Either that or redshirt him. He's our 4th best, but playing two a lot. We were lucky to be injury free last year, but that's never a guarantee.
Redshirt Wilson is our move, I think?

Hayes, Thurman 32 FB Jr 28 28
Grant, Ethan 47 FB Fr 27 41
Moorman, Kendall 29 FB So 11 11
Pritchett, Chad 41 FB So* 7 38
I doubt Hayes would translate to much as a RB, but it might be enough to RS Wilson. That would give us 4 backs to play...and give Grant the chance to start.
If we redshirt Wilson, we'll still have 4 RB's and we could RS Grant as well.

Villasenor, Claude 91 TE So 28 28
Lucas, Bennie 92 TE Jr 23 32
Marsh, Juan 89 TE Sr 11 11
Keefe, Don 96 TE So 6 7
At least our starters are good. Get me some bodies here, coach.
Will do.

Bitkowski, Gary 80 WR Jr 23 23
Blackwell, R.J. 84 WR Sr 18 18
Hastings, Bernie 8 WR Jr* 11 18
Manning, Jeremy 87 WR Sr* 8 8
Valle, Dave 81 WR* Fr 15 44
Dillon, Malcolm 82 WR* Jr* 10 24
Cash, Juan 9 WR* So 8 8
Flowers, Jesse 5 WR* So 2 2
So, uh, anyone need a receiver?
I'll cut Flowers and RS Valle

Winters, Juan 52 C Fr 18 57
Reese, Ricky 54 C Jr* 12 38
Like his upside, but we're not going to be good this year.


Talley, Nicky 64 G Sr* 17 17
Talley, Bernard 65 G Fr 13 51
Wilks, Darnell 67 G Sr 11 11
Finley, Adam 61 G Fr 3 38
Higginbotham, Roger 68 G So 3 7
Horner, Wally 72 G So* 1 27
We've got depth, but not much here. Talley brothers start.

Thomas, Juan 71 T Jr 46 61
Bauer, Rico 62 T Sr 15 15
Meyer, Cornell 73 T Fr 7 53
Covington, Norbert 60 T Jr* 1 11
Glenn, Rich 66 T* Sr 20 29
Run behind the big man all day. We'll run our toss his way and counter away from him. Defenses will never buy that we'd run AWAY from blocking of Thomas.
RS Cornell?

Gerhardt, Karl 1 P Jr* 16 23
Graveson, Mercury 6 P Fr 12 73
Redshirting Mercury doesn't do us that much good, as we'll end up with a walkon.

Cochrane, Leonard 12 K Sr* 36 36
Gaines, Devin 13 K Sr* 33 43
Griffin, Shawn 10 K* Sr 30 34
I can't tell, can we redshirt one of these guys? If we can, do it. Otherwise, we'll need a kicker next season.
I'll look at this to see if we can RS one of these guys.

(ok, now I can read this)

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Old 10-08-2006, 05:18 PM   #13
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Castillo, Troy 74 DE Sr 39 43 Hadley, Brian 99 DE Sr 21 21 Stuart, Marty 78 DE Sr 17 17 Latimer, Tommy 76 DE* Sr* 10 24 Kitchings, Lamar 94 DE Fr 7 30 Walters, Edgar 75 DE* Jr* 9 9 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on.

Outlook:Tony was our MVP last year, and frankly, i expected more. He was solid in run support, but i would like him to pick his pass rush up a bit. We have 4 seniors here, so recruiting is a must at this position. Either way, this position will be one of our strengths here with talent and depth i wish i had elsewhere.

Recruiting Need:We need bodies, were losing some good players...tony will be missed.
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Rivera, Roosevelt 98 DT Sr 15 15 Beeson, Jeffrey 97 DT Fr 10 27 Raymond, Courtney 70 DT* Jr* 4 7 Dyson, Shaun 90 DT* So 0 0 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on.

Outlook: Beeson saves this defense the trouble of going to a 3-4 with our weak LBs. The top two will hopefully stay healthy, as this position will be key against the run attacks we say in conference last year. An average position, up top, but the depth is shameful.

Shaun Dyson deserves his own line...he is a 0-0...it takes real skill to be THAT bad. Bravo shaun

Recruiting Need: We have one player who should ever play coming back next year. We need bodies bad here as well, though 1-2 will do. I hope shaun has a good GPA, as he is useless as a player.
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Yamada, Brad 40 ILB* So* 9 27 Stevenson, Jackie 43 ILB Fr 9 59 Pauley, Jamal 44 ILB* Jr* 4 4 Rose, Darnell 57 ILB* Jr* 3 3 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on.

Outlook: Well, in the future this should be a fairly solid spot for a 3-4 with those top two developing over the coming years. For now though, in our 4-3 alignment, Yamada simply needs to hold the fort...and not get injured, as red-shirting jackie leaves our backups rather important. But i think its better to sacrifice this year for a better year later.

Recruiting Outlook: We dont really need anyone here, but of course if they want to come we take them. Our two back-ups are not good.
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate McWilliams, Mitchell 53 OLB* Sr 13 16 Hackett, Jared 42 OLB Sr* 9 18 Banks, Tito 58 OLB Sr* 8 11 Lee, Cornell 51 OLB Fr 7 44 Williamson, Ed 59 OLB So* 7 30 Burns, Leo 56 OLB* So* 3 3 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on.
Outlook: Again, its a very average position. Mitchell and Jared should hold down the fort while we wait for Ed and Cornell to develop. Hopefully our ends can keep these guys free to roam. Again, very average.

Recruiting Need:We need 1 player id say, but its not a priority. We have two solid players for the future, and as such were good to go for a bit.
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Whitfield, Austin 26 CB Sr 20 42 Ward, Burt 34 CB* So 11 11 McMurtry, Carlton 37 CB Fr 11 34 Woodson, Joel 27 CB Jr* 7 7 Strong, Edgar 24 CB* So 2 10 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on.

Outlook: Whitfield didnt play poorly last year, and is rather talented compared the the rest of our starters. Thats the good news. Ward will start next to him as McMurty RS's. I think we are going to be very good against the pass this year combined with our safeties.

Recruiting Need:We really need a player with a future to pair with carlton. This is key, as autin graduates.
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Spann, Antonio 36 S Jr* 21 26 Collins, Fred 22 S So* 12 37 Barker, Wes 23 S Fr 10 56 Harness, Herman 21 S Fr 8 48 King, Brandon 48 S Jr 7 27 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on.
Outlook: Now this is what i like to see. We have talent now, potential for later, and youth all over. This is by far the best spot on our D. Spann was a pleasent suprise last year, and we hope he plays just as well this year with a new partner in Collins. Im happy here, very.

Recruiting Need:Were set, really. Just move along, nothing to see here.


Team Outlook: 4-3 is most likely the best selection for this group. It will allow our line to get a solid pass rush while our secondary plays their game on the opposing attack. This will be a better year defensively, and i think it will show in the stats.

Redshirts:
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Kitchings, Lamar 94 DE Fr 7 30 Stevenson, Jackie 43 ILB Fr 9 59 Lee, Cornell 51 OLB Fr 7 44 McMurtry, Carlton 37 CB Fr 11 34 Barker, Wes 23 S Fr 10 56 Harness, Herman 21 S Fr 8 48 (AFTER BARKER)
This is a solid group of freshman to redshirt(not counting those that must already start). The only complication is how many S we must keep active. Id RS barker before harness, and if possible both. These guys should all be 4 year starters for us. Im not sure if thats great news or shameful of our current squad, but i look forward to seeing this group carry to torch to greatness.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:04 PM   #14
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Sorry, they've been screwing with the computers, servers, emails, you name it, around here the past few days. That's the best formatting I could do under the circumstances.

You could redshirt Cornell. I don't like the idea of redshirting both backs, though. The FB is good enough to start for us, and we could move the junior over to RB. If we redshirt Skip without moving the fullback over, we have depth, only it's really bad depth. Moving the fullback over might help. I know you'd like to redshirt a few people, but right now we need every young man we can get.

Looked at the defense. You might seriously look at our receivers and see if any can move over and at least provide a body over there.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:01 PM   #15
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Thanks coaches!! I have alot to chew on tomorrow at work as we prepare for our 2nd season.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:42 PM   #16
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2005 Season Roster
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Player # Pos Elig Current Estimate Future Estimate Hawkins, Scott 7 QB So* 13 13 McWilliams, J.T. 15 QB Fr 13 62 Wanat, Reuben 3 QB Sr 12 13 Wright, Freddie 4 QB Sr* 7 7 Linquist, Kennedy 16 QB Sr* 2 22 Hayes, Thurman 32 RB Jr 28 28 Morton, Gary 38 RB Sr 24 24 Lane, Jim 39 RB Jr 21 32 Kaplan, Jeff 46 RB Sr 19 19 Wilson, Skip 35 RB Fr 16 60 Doran, Jumbo 30 RB So* 15 22 Grant, Ethan 47 FB Fr 27 41 Moorman, Kendall 29 FB So 11 11 Pritchett, Chad 41 FB So* 7 38 Villasenor, Claude 91 TE So 28 28 Lucas, Bennie 92 TE Jr 23 32 Marsh, Juan 89 TE Sr 11 11 Keefe, Don 96 TE So 6 7 Bitkowski, Gary 80 WR Jr 23 23 Blackwell, R.J. 84 WR Sr 18 18 Hastings, Bernie 8 WR Jr* 11 18 Manning, Jeremy 87 WR Sr* 8 8 Valle, Dave 81 WR* Fr 15 44 Dillon, Malcolm 82 WR* Jr* 10 24 Cash, Juan 9 WR* So 8 8 Winters, Juan 52 C Fr 18 57 Reese, Ricky 54 C Jr* 12 38 Talley, Nicky 64 G Sr* 17 17 Talley, Bernard 65 G Fr 13 51 Wilks, Darnell 67 G Sr 11 11 Finley, Adam 61 G Fr 3 38 Higginbotham, Roger 68 G So 3 7 Horner, Wally 72 G So* 1 27 Thomas, Juan 71 T Jr 46 61 Bauer, Rico 62 T Sr 15 15 Meyer, Cornell 73 T Fr 7 53 Covington, Norbert 60 T Jr* 1 11 Glenn, Rich 66 T* Sr 20 29 Gerhardt, Karl 1 P Jr* 16 23 Graveson, Mercury 6 P Fr 12 73 Cochrane, Leonard 12 K Sr* 36 36 Gaines, Devin 13 K Sr* 33 43 Griffin, Shawn 10 K* Sr 30 34 Castillo, Troy 74 DE Sr 39 43 Hadley, Brian 99 DE Sr 21 21 Stuart, Marty 78 DE Sr 17 17 Kitchings, Lamar 94 DE Fr 7 30 Latimer, Tommy 76 DE* Sr* 10 24 Walters, Edgar 75 DE* Jr* 9 9 Rivera, Roosevelt 98 DT Sr 15 15 Beeson, Jeffrey 97 DT Fr 10 27 Raymond, Courtney 70 DT* Jr* 4 7 Dyson, Shaun 90 DT* So 0 0 Stevenson, Jackie 43 ILB Fr 9 59 Yamada, Brad 40 ILB* So* 9 27 Pauley, Jamal 44 ILB* Jr* 4 4 Rose, Darnell 57 ILB* Jr* 3 3 Hackett, Jared 42 OLB Sr* 9 18 Banks, Tito 58 OLB Sr* 8 11 Lee, Cornell 51 OLB Fr 7 44 Williamson, Ed 59 OLB So* 7 30 McWilliams, Mitchell 53 OLB* Sr 13 16 Burns, Leo 56 OLB* So* 3 3 Whitfield, Austin 26 CB Sr 20 42 McMurtry, Carlton 37 CB Fr 11 34 Woodson, Joel 27 CB Jr* 7 7 Ward, Burt 34 CB* So 11 11 Strong, Edgar 24 CB* So 2 10 Spann, Antonio 36 S Jr* 21 26 Collins, Fred 22 S So* 12 37 Barker, Wes 23 S Fr 10 56 Harness, Herman 21 S Fr 8 48 King, Brandon 48 S Jr 7 27 * in eligibility - Player has been red-shirted. * in position - Player is walk-on. ** before name - Player is in danger of becoming academically ineligible.
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Old 10-09-2006, 05:47 PM   #17
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_______Preseason______

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School Record Conf Comp Poll Loss Sched Total Rank Florida State 0-0 ACC 2.00 1.50 0.00 0.12 3.62 1 Miami 0-0 ACC 1.00 3.00 0.00 1.36 5.36 2 Oklahoma 0-0 BTW 3.00 3.00 0.00 1.12 7.12 3 Georgia 0-0 SEC 4.00 4.00 0.00 2.08 10.08 4 UCLA 0-0 PAC 5.00 5.50 0.00 1.88 12.38 5 Ohio State 0-0 BTN 8.00 5.00 0.00 0.68 13.68 6 Nebraska 0-0 BTW 6.00 8.00 0.00 1.04 15.04 7 Michigan 0-0 BTN 7.00 11.50 0.00 0.52 19.02 8 Texas 0-0 BTW 9.00 9.00 0.00 1.20 19.20 9 Florida 0-0 SEC 10.00 9.00 0.00 2.04 21.04 10 Tennessee 0-0 SEC 11.00 9.00 0.00 2.20 22.20 11 Iowa 0-0 BTN 12.00 11.50 0.00 0.48 23.98 12 Penn State 0-0 BTN 13.00 14.00 0.00 0.72 27.72 13 Maryland 0-0 ACC 16.00 14.50 0.00 0.20 30.70 14 Louisiana State 0-0 SEC 15.00 18.00 0.00 2.40 35.40 15 Texas A&M 0-0 BTW 14.00 21.00 0.00 1.24 36.24 16 Boston College 0-0 BEA 18.00 18.00 0.00 1.32 37.32 17 Kansas State 0-0 BTW 17.00 20.00 0.00 0.96 37.96 18 Utah 0-0 MWE 22.00 17.00 0.00 2.76 41.76 19 USC 0-0 PAC 19.00 21.50 0.00 1.92 42.42 20 Arkansas 0-0 SEC 20.00 22.50 0.00 2.32 44.82 21 Notre Dame 0-0 IND 26.00 20.00 0.00 4.56 50.56 22 Auburn 0-0 SEC 21.00 28.00 0.00 2.36 51.36 23 Pittsburgh 0-0 BEA 24.00 27.00 0.00 1.40 52.40 24 Clemson 0-0 ACC 23.00 30.00 0.00 0.04 53.04 25

Once again we are ranked #125 (dead last) to start the 2005 campaign. They are probably right, as we might win 3 games this year as we start to put this team together.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:11 PM   #18
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Week 1

No game this week.

Recruiting - scholarships offered

DE Tommy Anthony (Ballwin, MO)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 227
GPA: 2.68
Test Score: 1140
Rivals.com National Rank: 512
Rank by Position: 48
Rivals.com State Rank: 13
Rank by Position: 3
All-State Team: Not Yet Selected
All-Country Team: Not Yet Selected
Attitude: Pretty Good
Overall: 63/100
Strength: Defending the Run
Biggest Weakness: Rushing the Passer
Ratings Consistency: High
Your Impression: Better than Scouted
High School Athletic Preparation: (37)
High School Academic Preparation: (40)
GP - 4 Tkls: 27 Sks: 1.5 Ints: 2
Tommy idolizes St. Louis and well, we will welcome him with open arms.

OLB Jim Beebe (St. Peters, MO)
Height: 6-1
Weight: 212
GPA: 3.78
Test Score: 1281
Rivals.com National Rank: NA
Rank by Position: NA
Rivals.com State Rank: NA
Rank by Position: 8
All-State Team: Not Yet Selected
All-Country Team: Not Yet Selected
Attitude: Good
Overall: 28/100
Strength: Rushing the Passer
Biggest Weakness: Intercepting Passes
Ratings Consistency: Average
Your Impression: Better than Scouted
High School Athletic Preparation: (7)
High School Academic Preparation: (97)
GP - 4 Tkls: 21 Sks: 2.5 Ints: 1
Another recruit who loves St. Louis.

TE Marcus Burkholder (Fenton, MO)
Height: 6-5
Weight: 240
GPA: 3.38
Test Score: 1238
Rivals.com National Rank: NA
Rank by Position: NA
Rivals.com State Rank: NA
Rank by Position: 10
All-State Team: Not Yet Selected
All-Country Team: Not Yet Selected
Attitude: Very Good
Overall: 29/100
Strength: Catching in traffic
Biggest Weakness: Catching the Ball
Ratings Consistency: Very Low
Your Impression: Better than Scouted
High School Athletic Preparation: (47)
High School Academic Preparation: (63)
GP - 4 Rec: 6 Yds: 78 Yds/Cth: 13.00 TD: 0
Add another one to the, "I love St. Louis" list.

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Old 10-09-2006, 06:20 PM   #19
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Bowling Green 31, Independence 13

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Old 10-09-2006, 09:02 PM   #20
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Where's Tommy Anthony go to high school? If it is Marquette or Lafayette the middle school I teach at feeds into his school. Let me know if you want me to put in the good word.
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:29 PM   #21
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Where's Tommy Anthony go to high school? If it is Marquette or Lafayette the middle school I teach at feeds into his school. Let me know if you want me to put in the good word.

It's South, but I expect you to go over there and put in a good word anyway.
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:55 PM   #22
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Where's Tommy Anthony go to high school? If it is Marquette or Lafayette the middle school I teach at feeds into his school. Let me know if you want me to put in the good word.

What middle school? I went to rockwood valley(6-8 years ago if my count is right). All of my friends went to lafayette, though i moved. I was actually a 6th grader when the school opened, so my class was the first to go spend all 3 years there.

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Old 10-09-2006, 09:56 PM   #23
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It's South, but I expect you to go over there and put in a good word anyway.

I think it goes without saying, but you HAVE to land tommy. Like, i will quit if you dont

Ok, maybe i wont quit...but ill write a really suggestive letter!
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:00 PM   #24
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I think it goes without saying, but you HAVE to land tommy. Like, i will quit if you dont

Ok, maybe i wont quit...but ill write a really suggestive letter!

I haven't had this great a run on (good) idolized players yet in TCY, so I'm not sure if you offer them a scholarship, what is the % they will come to your school? I would guess pretty high? There were at least 8 total players, but the rest were not very good.

Landing him would really, really, make this defense come together in future years.

Game 1 tomorrow!

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Old 10-10-2006, 11:37 AM   #25
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Word! What are we doing with our backs situation? Does our quarterback appear to be a good runner?
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:13 PM   #26
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I haven't had this great a run on (good) idolized players yet in TCY, so I'm not sure if you offer them a scholarship, what is the % they will come to your school? I would guess pretty high? There were at least 8 total players, but the rest were not very good.

Landing him would really, really, make this defense come together in future years.

Game 1 tomorrow!

If you offer a player who idolizes your school, they will sign. Every time. Usually in week 6.
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:19 PM   #27
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Word! What are we doing with our backs situation? Does our quarterback appear to be a good runner?

It worked! Hayes is our starting HB and Wilson was red-shirted.
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:20 PM   #28
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If you offer a player who idolizes your school, they will sign. Every time. Usually in week 6.

Thanks for that tidbit. So, 1 phone call, 1 visit and an offer does it?

That's beautiful news!!
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:12 PM   #29
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Thanks for that tidbit. So, 1 phone call, 1 visit and an offer does it?

That's beautiful news!!

You don't even need to visit if you don't want to. Just call him and tell him he's on the team. He'll sign.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:31 PM   #30
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You don't even need to visit if you don't want to. Just call him and tell him he's on the team. He'll sign.

You don't say?
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:41 PM   #31
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Cool dynasty. Ardent is one crazy dood... I think he should have been happier with the punter recruit last season, even if you had to travel to San Fran to get him... after all the punter is an integral player in his offense.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:50 PM   #32
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Cool dynasty. Ardent is one crazy dood... I think he should have been happier with the punter recruit last season, even if you had to travel to San Fran to get him... after all the punter is an integral player in his offense.

I think I drive him crazy.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:56 PM   #33
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You don't say?

I once did an experiment, playing with a good team, to see how many bribes it would take to get a player who idolized another team to sign with me. The result was that even 50 bribes, which would surely have gotten my school suspended, was not enough to convince him.
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:06 PM   #34
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School Record Conf Comp Poll Loss Sched Total Rank Florida State 1-0 ACC 2.00 1.00 0.00 1.04 4.04 1 Maryland 1-0 ACC 3.00 6.00 0.00 1.08 10.08 2 Iowa 1-0 BTN 5.00 4.00 0.00 1.16 10.16 3 Oklahoma 1-0 BTW 8.25 2.00 0.00 1.32 11.57 4 Texas 1-0 BTW 9.75 3.00 0.00 1.36 14.11 5 Wisconsin 1-0 BTN 5.75 10.00 0.00 1.24 16.99 6 North Carolina State 1-0 ACC 3.25 14.50 0.00 1.12 18.87 7 Boston College 1-0 BEA 11.75 7.00 0.00 1.44 20.19 8 Texas A&M 1-0 BTW 11.00 8.00 0.00 1.40 20.40 9 Michigan State 1-0 BTN 5.75 15.00 0.00 1.20 21.95 10 Duke 1-0 ACC 1.00 22.50 0.00 1.00 24.50 11 Louisiana State 1-0 SEC 16.00 7.50 0.00 1.64 25.14 12 South Carolina 1-0 SEC 15.00 9.50 0.00 1.56 26.06 13 Iowa State 1-0 BTW 8.00 19.00 0.00 1.28 28.28 14 Auburn 1-0 SEC 16.00 11.00 0.00 1.60 28.60 15 Boise State 1-0 WAC 19.25 9.50 0.00 1.80 30.55 16 Arizona 1-0 PAC 14.00 18.00 0.00 1.52 33.52 17 Colorado State 1-0 MWE 18.00 15.50 0.00 1.68 35.18 18 Bowling Green 1-0 MAC 21.75 13.00 0.00 1.84 36.59 19 Temple 1-0 BEA 13.00 24.00 0.00 1.48 38.48 20 Tulane 1-0 USA 19.75 19.50 0.00 1.76 41.01 21 Central Michigan 1-0 MAC 23.00 17.50 0.00 1.88 42.38 22 New Mexico 1-0 MWE 19.00 22.00 0.00 1.72 42.72 23 North Texas 1-0 SBE 23.50 21.00 0.00 1.92 46.42 24 Michigan 0-0 BTN 29.00 32.00 0.00 2.12 63.12 25
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:08 PM   #35
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St. Louis (0-0) at Marshall (0-0) (-9)

Recruiting - scholarships offered

C Zack Newsome (St. Louis, MO)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 258
GPA: 2.67
Test Score: 936
Rivals.com National Rank: NA
Rank by Position: NA
Rivals.com State Rank: NA
Rank by Position: 9
All-State Team: Not Yet Selected
All-Country Team: Not Yet Selected
Attitude: Lousy
Overall: 23/100
Strength: Pass Protection
Biggest Weakness: Run Blocking
Ratings Consistency: High
Your Impression: Worse than Scouted
High School Athletic Preparation: (20)
High School Academic Preparation: (27)

DE Desmond Soutsos (Hillsboro, MO)
Height: 6-2
Weight: 224
GPA: 2.41
Test Score: 874
Rivals.com National Rank: 268
Rank by Position: 32
Rivals.com State Rank: 5
Rank by Position: 2
All-State Team: Not Yet Selected
All-Country Team: Not Yet Selected
Attitude: Fair
Overall: 89/100
Strength: Defending the Run
Biggest Weakness: Rushing the Passer
Ratings Consistency: High
Your Impression: Better than Scouted
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GP - 5 Tkls: 45 Sks: 6.5 Ints: 2

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Old 10-10-2006, 08:22 PM   #36
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St. Louis - 24 (0-1)
Marshall - 52 (1-0)
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Attendance: 24,400 (38,000). Weather: 82 degrees, fair. 1Q: 11:10 STLS - Thurman Hayes 16 run. 1Q: 11:10 STLS - Leonard Cochrane extra point. 1Q: 09:01 MRSH - Tito Sullivan 39 field goal. 1Q: 06:36 MRSH - Gino Rhoden 21 pass from Will Schurman. 1Q: 06:36 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. 1Q: 00:31 STLS - Leonard Cochrane 26 field goal. 2Q: 06:21 STLS - J.T. McWilliams 5 run. 2Q: 06:21 STLS - Leonard Cochrane extra point. 2Q: 04:53 MRSH - Phil Kalista 50 pass from Will Schurman. 2Q: 04:53 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. 2Q: 00:41 MRSH - Greg McKenzie 61 run. 2Q: 00:41 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. 3Q: 10:41 MRSH - Greg McKenzie 6 run. 3Q: 10:41 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. 3Q: 00:03 MRSH - Mel Reaves 3 pass from Will Schurman. 3Q: 00:03 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. 4Q: 14:53 STLS - Gary Bitkowski 90 pass from J.T. McWilliams. 4Q: 14:53 STLS - Leonard Cochrane extra point. 4Q: 11:16 MRSH - Mel Reaves 9 pass from Will Schurman. 4Q: 11:16 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. 4Q: 09:33 MRSH - Phil Kalista 22 pass from Will Schurman. 4Q: 09:33 MRSH - Tito Sullivan extra point. Game MVP: MRSH 5 Will Schurman St. Louis 10 7 0 7 - 24 Marshall 10 14 14 14 - 52 Team Statistics STLS MRSH First Downs 17 26 Total Rushes 44 34 Net Rushing Yards 216 247 Yards Per Carry 4.9 7.2 Rushing Yards 230 266 Tckld Loss/Yards 6-14 4-6 Sacked/Yards Lost 0-0 2-13 Pass Attempts 15 30 Completions 9 21 Passing Yards 241 357 Yards Per Attempt 16.0 11.9 Interceptions 1 0 Fumbles/Lost 2/1 1/0 Total Plays 59 64 Total Yards 457 604 Yards Per Play 7.7 9.4 3rd Down Plays 4/12 5/10 Penalties 11 5 Penalty Yards 105 40 Avg. Drive Start OWN 20 OWN 31 Time Of Possession 30:26 29:34
Some good things to take from this lashing. Our offense looked good with JT at the helm. Defensively we looked terrible, but I think we'll get that going. Also, penalties still kill this team.
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:24 PM   #37
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Rushing Att Yards Avg Long TD Stufd Sackd 38 Morton 16 102 6.3 31 0 4 0 15 McWilliams 14 47 3.3 10 1 4 0 32 Hayes 10 56 5.6 16 1 1 0 39 Lane 3 12 4.0 6 0 1 0 47 Grant 1 -1 -1.0 -1 0 1 0 Passing Att Comp Yards Yd/Att Long TD Int 15 McWilliams 15 9 241 16.0 90 1 1 Receiving Catch Yards Avg YAC Long TD 91 Villasenor 3 60 20.0 16 23 0 80 Bitkowski 2 102 51.0 42 90 1 47 Grant 2 67 33.5 55 52 0 41 Pritchett 1 3 3.0 0 3 0 89 Marsh 1 9 9.0 4 9 0 Punt Returns Att Yards Avg TD 80 Bitkowski 1 3 3.0 0 Kick Returns Att Yards Avg TD 46 Kaplan 3 48 16.0 0 80 Bitkowski 1 15 15.0 0 Punting Punts Yards Avg Long In20 6 Graveson 5 186 37.2 47 2 Kicking FG FGA Long PAT Att 12 Cochrane 1 1 26 3 3 Defense Tackle Assist Sack Int IntYds IntTD 53 McWilliams 6 1 1.0 0 0 0 42 Hackett 6 3 0.0 0 0 0 97 Beeson 6 1 0.0 0 0 0 26 Whitfield 5 2 0.0 0 0 0 74 Castillo 4 5 1.0 0 0 0 36 Spann 4 0 0.0 0 0 0 22 Collins 4 0 0.0 0 0 0 59 Williamson 3 2 0.0 0 0 0 40 Yamada 3 1 0.0 0 0 0 90 Dyson 2 0 0.0 0 0 0 48 King 2 0 0.0 0 0 0 44 Pauley 1 1 0.0 0 0 0 41 Pritchett 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 80 Bitkowski 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 9 Cash 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 67 Wilks 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 70 Raymond 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 98 Rivera 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 27 Woodson 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 34 Ward 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 24 Strong 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 65 Talley 1 0 0.0 0 0 0 76 Latimer 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 Miscellaneous Fumb FForc Recov MiscTD KeyRBlk SckAlwd 71 Thomas 0 0 0 0 7 0 66 Glenn 0 0 0 0 4 0 38 Morton 1 0 1 0 0 0 32 Hayes 1 0 0 0 0 0 59 Williamson 0 1 0 0 0 0 65 Talley 0 0 0 0 1 0 Player Stokes Awarded 15 J.T. McWilliams 5 38 Gary Morton 3 32 Thurman Hayes 3 74 Troy Castillo 2 39 Jim Lane 1 91 Claude Villasenor 1 80 Gary Bitkowski 1 99 Brian Hadley 1 78 Marty Stuart 1 59 Ed Williamson 1 97 Jeffrey Beeson 1
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Old 10-10-2006, 08:28 PM   #38
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Colorado State 31, Independence 17
Alabama-Birmingham 17, Joplin 13
Tulane 35, St. Joseph 10
Boise State 51, Springfield 16
Kent 45, Jefferson City 17

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Old 10-10-2006, 08:30 PM   #39
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:53 PM   #40
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If you offer a player who idolizes your school, they will sign. Every time. Usually in week 6.
What he said.
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Recruiting - scholarships offered

C Zack Newsome (St. Louis, MO)
Height: 6-3
Weight: 258
GPA: 2.67
Test Score: 936
Rivals.com National Rank: NA
Rank by Position: NA
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Rank by Position: 9
All-State Team: Not Yet Selected
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Attitude: Lousy
Overall: 23/100
Strength: Pass Protection
Biggest Weakness: Run Blocking
Ratings Consistency: High
Your Impression: Worse than Scouted
High School Athletic Preparation: (20)
High School Academic Preparation: (27)
I hope he has some compromising photos of you. 9th best in state at the center position? Can't we do a little better?
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:59 PM   #42
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It looks like JT likes to run the ball, which is fine. Hopefully he'll look better at running the ball in conference play. I liked the way the carries were split up. A lot more running this game as well, which set up the pass nicely.

I'm assuming you will be emailing me the game log.

I'm really glad we were able to move our fullback over. Skip ain't the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he may be a little more serviceable after a redshirt year.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:09 AM   #43
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Darn it! Need to turn game logs on, sorry. Note to self: turn game logs ON!
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Here's another tcy tip that I've never seen posted in this forum: QBs who are popular with their teammates will often overachieve; qbs who are unpopular with their teammates will often underachieve. I suspect this is true with other players as well, but I've noticed it most often with qbs.
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Here's another tcy tip that I've never seen posted in this forum: QBs who are popular with their teammates will often overachieve; qbs who are unpopular with their teammates will often underachieve. I suspect this is true with other players as well, but I've noticed it most often with qbs.

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Old 10-11-2006, 09:17 PM   #46
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Don't tell him something about quarterbacks!
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Don't tell him something about quarterbacks!

I think AE means that the guy can only hand the ball off or pitch the ball to get playing time.
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He needs to be able to throw blocks as well.
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He needs to be able to throw blocks as well.

That might injure his arm and he won't be able to hand the ball off.
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Old 10-13-2006, 02:06 AM   #50
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That might injure his arm and he won't be able to hand the ball off.

Good, then we can put a RB in at QB and add a whole new dimension to our running attack!
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