Anyone play Baseball Mogul 2004

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 01:23 PM

Anybody play BBM 2004?
I heard its improved now but still dont know if I want to by it .

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 01:30 PM

I like ootp 5 though so I'll pass on this game ....for now .

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 01:38 PM

double dola : IGN gave it an 8/10 rating .
Kinda enticed with the easy interface but again I have ootp 5 .

TLK · 05-12-2003, 01:41 PM

I'm gonna post in here..... so you aren't talking to yourself......

TLK

cincyreds · 05-12-2003, 01:53 PM

(is Chemical talking to himself?)

Ksyrup · 05-12-2003, 02:04 PM

He answered his own question, I guess.

Bee · 05-12-2003, 02:06 PM

I think I agree with Chemical Soldier personality number 2...but personality number 3 has a good point.

MizzouRah · 05-12-2003, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by CHEMICAL SOLDIER
double dola : IGN gave it an 8/10 rating .
Kinda enticed with the easy interface but again I have ootp 5 .

Really? I have BBM 2000, had fun for awhile... didn't know v2004 recieved such a high rating.. I'll have to check that review out.

Todd

FBPro · 05-12-2003, 02:32 PM

Very few changes from "the original" BBMogul made in '97(I think), bored in 20 minutes..

Fritz · 05-12-2003, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by FBPro
Very few changes from "the original" BBMogul made in '97(I think), bored in 20 minutes..

an unbiased view?

Ben E Lou · 05-12-2003, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by Fritz
an unbiased view?

I haven't bought 2K4 yet, but 2K3 was a FUN little game. Good balance and good challenge imho. In the latest career I played with it, I managed to win a few world titles, but I also managed to finish last several times as well (even lost 100 games twice). The Mogul series doesn't move forward very quickly, but it remains a solid, relatively bug-free product that gives very believable results in a LIGHTNING-fast sim.

Bee · 05-12-2003, 03:03 PM

*note to self: Don't ask Skydog for advice on games in the future*

Edit: Forgot the winky thing

MizzouRah · 05-12-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by SkyDog

I haven't bought 2K4 yet, but 2K3 was a FUN little game. Good balance and good challenge imho. In the latest career I played with it, I managed to win a few world titles, but I also managed to finish last several times as well (even lost 100 games twice). The Mogul series doesn't move forward very quickly, but it remains a solid, relatively bug-free product that gives very believable results in a LIGHTNING-fast sim.

About my review for v2000.

Todd

sianews · 05-12-2003, 03:14 PM

Has the depth of a sim made in '97 and horrid roster management.

MizzouRah · 05-12-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by sianews
Has the depth of a sim made in '97 and horrid roster management.

Yee-Ouch!

Todd

sianews · 05-12-2003, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by MizzouRah
Yee-Ouch!

Just call it as I see it

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For a series which had so much promise when it debuted, I'm still at a loss as to explain why it has no progressed at all in nearly six years. Don't get me wrong, I love the premise (more player management focused, then manager focused ala OOTP). The interface is superior to OOTP and Puresim, the trading model is fine, and speed is unmatchable. However, as I mentioned before, the depth of the game is same as it was in 1997, and that alone makes it unplayable

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CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 04:01 PM

I was reading a few dynasties on a BBM site and I think its pretty easy cuz each dynasty won like 5/7 ws on average ......

Ben E Lou · 05-12-2003, 04:02 PM

Difficulty is VERY varied depending on what franchise and settings you choose. Play with deafult settings, Mogul difficult and use a team like Montreal or Milwaukee, and it is a difficult enterprise.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 04:04 PM

Oh Ok , Thanks for clarifying that to me skydog .:-)

RonnieDobbs · 05-12-2003, 04:05 PM

I've also found that you need to tweak the settings for how good minor leaguers are. Did this awhile ago, don't really remember what it involved but it's on the BBM website/forum somewhere.

Overall, I like the interface/speed a lot. The AI needs to be better and I'd really like a draft and different minors levels instead of the system they have now. I'll play it, but not really seriously, more just for simple fun (500 game winner anyone?).

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 04:26 PM

Yeah , unless I lose interest in OOTP 5 I probably will not get seriously enamoured with BBM 04 .

Ksyrup · 05-12-2003, 04:34 PM

BBM was the first of the "new wave" of text-based sports sims I really got into. IN fact, it was through a search for BBM-like games that I stumbled upon this forum years ago and discovered FOF. Clay is a really nice guy and deserves to do well, but honestly, the game hasn't made more than an inch of progess in the past 5 years.

I don't know if Clay has just gone as far as he can take a game by himself, or if BBM represents all that he wants a game to be. Either way, once I played FOF2, I could never go back to a BBM-type of game. The all-encompassing experience of the FOFs and OOTPs of the genre ruined BBM for me. Until that point, though, I loved that game.

Ben E Lou · 05-12-2003, 04:37 PM

I agree that the game hasn't made much progress, but it has made some. The problem is that it has made mostly "under-the-hood" progress. The trade AI is now solid. Roster/lineup management has improved hugely. Etc Etc Etc. However, very few NEW features have been added since the inception of the series, and I'm sure that frustrates some. That being said, it is still a nice baseball sim, when taken for what it is, rather than what we all thought it might become.

CHEMICAL SOLDIER · 05-12-2003, 04:38 PM

Funny I got into FOF almost the same way .

tucker342 · 05-12-2003, 06:11 PM

I might check it out eventually.

05-12-2003, 01:30 PM	#2
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I like ootp 5 though so I'll pass on this game ....for now . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-12-2003, 01:38 PM	#3
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	double dola : IGN gave it an 8/10 rating . Kinda enticed with the easy interface but again I have ootp 5 . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-12-2003, 01:53 PM	#5
cincyreds High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mississippi	(is Chemical talking to himself?) __________________ The Dallas Cowboys!! America's Team will rise again.

05-12-2003, 02:04 PM	#6
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He answered his own question, I guess. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-12-2003, 02:32 PM	#9
FBPro College Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SE	Very few changes from "the original" BBMogul made in '97(I think), bored in 20 minutes.. __________________ GM RayCo Raiders-est. 2004-2012 Charter member of the IHOF-RayCo GM GM Tennessee Titans PFL 2011-2014 GM Tennessee Titans FOWL 2020-2025

05-12-2003, 01:41 PM	#4
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	I'm gonna post in here..... so you aren't talking to yourself...... TLK

05-12-2003, 02:06 PM	#7
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I think I agree with Chemical Soldier personality number 2...but personality number 3 has a good point.

05-12-2003, 03:03 PM	#12
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	note to self: Don't ask Skydog for advice on games in the future Edit: Forgot the winky thing Last edited by Bee : 05-12-2003 at 03:10 PM.

05-12-2003, 03:14 PM	#14
sianews Mascot Join Date: Jun 2001	Has the depth of a sim made in '97 and horrid roster management.

05-12-2003, 04:01 PM	#17
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	I was reading a few dynasties on a BBM site and I think its pretty easy cuz each dynasty won like 5/7 ws on average ...... __________________ Toujour Pret

05-12-2003, 04:02 PM	#18
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Difficulty is VERY varied depending on what franchise and settings you choose. Play with deafult settings, Mogul difficult and use a team like Montreal or Milwaukee, and it is a difficult enterprise. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

05-12-2003, 04:04 PM	#19
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Oh Ok , Thanks for clarifying that to me skydog .:-) __________________ Toujour Pret

05-12-2003, 04:05 PM	#20
RonnieDobbs High School JV Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA	I've also found that you need to tweak the settings for how good minor leaguers are. Did this awhile ago, don't really remember what it involved but it's on the BBM website/forum somewhere. Overall, I like the interface/speed a lot. The AI needs to be better and I'd really like a draft and different minors levels instead of the system they have now. I'll play it, but not really seriously, more just for simple fun (500 game winner anyone?). __________________ ----------------------------------------- Lookin' forward to great seasons from my 'Skins, Cubbies, and Red Sox (please humor me) Proud Manager of the BOSTON WYCKYD SCEPTRE Also attempting to Right The Ship with the Clippers

05-12-2003, 04:26 PM	#21
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Yeah , unless I lose interest in OOTP 5 I probably will not get seriously enamoured with BBM 04 . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-12-2003, 04:34 PM	#22
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	BBM was the first of the "new wave" of text-based sports sims I really got into. IN fact, it was through a search for BBM-like games that I stumbled upon this forum years ago and discovered FOF. Clay is a really nice guy and deserves to do well, but honestly, the game hasn't made more than an inch of progess in the past 5 years. I don't know if Clay has just gone as far as he can take a game by himself, or if BBM represents all that he wants a game to be. Either way, once I played FOF2, I could never go back to a BBM-type of game. The all-encompassing experience of the FOFs and OOTPs of the genre ruined BBM for me. Until that point, though, I loved that game. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-12-2003, 04:37 PM	#23
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I agree that the game hasn't made much progress, but it has made some. The problem is that it has made mostly "under-the-hood" progress. The trade AI is now solid. Roster/lineup management has improved hugely. Etc Etc Etc. However, very few NEW features have been added since the inception of the series, and I'm sure that frustrates some. That being said, it is still a nice baseball sim, when taken for what it is, rather than what we all thought it might become. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

05-12-2003, 04:38 PM	#24
CHEMICAL SOLDIER College Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada	Funny I got into FOF almost the same way . __________________ Toujour Pret

05-12-2003, 06:11 PM	#25
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	I might check it out eventually.

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