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Old 01-14-2004, 12:21 PM   #1
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FOF2k4 7th round draft picks: stories

My favorite feature of Fido's FOFreporter is to look at the draft lists and discover what happened to players I've had on my roster or I've drafted. I mustn't have thought much of this guy after drafting him in the 7th round:

#-- Roger Carr Retired
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 197lbs
Pos: Split End
Age: 36
Born: 1/10/1953, Vacaville
Drafted: Pick 3 of round 7 (195 overall) by Pittsburgh
Experience: 13 Years
College: Louisiana Tech
Championships: -

Career Stats
Receiving Stats
YearTeamGPGSRecYardsAvgLongTDFum
1986MIN1021117215.63100
1985JAX1322638814.93740
1984NYJ1323045815.34410
1983TEN14113849913.12721
1982NOS1564062415.69030
1981BAL15133852213.75741
1980NYJ1475074714.98060
1979STL16155585615.65671
1978ATL16104959612.23332
1977HOU1644767514.49060
1976DAL1652633312.82500
1975DAL1601731618.63610
1974PIT2049624.06710
Total17677431628214.690385


I was very surprised to see that he held on for so long. I guess he developed enough to be of interest of many teams (and to start 77 games!) but not enough to get a long-term contract. I'd love to see a dynasty made about the 7th-round picks in a career - what happen to them who manage to stick around? I'd be nice to see if one of them could make the Pro Bowl or win several Super Bowls.
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Old 01-14-2004, 12:26 PM   #2
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I picked up a nice breakout WR in the 7th round a few years ago.He went from looking like camp fodder to being a solid #3, who could maybe work his way into the starting lineup. He did get a chance to start 2 years later, then blew out his knee and was a shell of his former self. Sadly, I had to cut him in year 4.

He was my first memorable breakout, and I felt crushed when he was injured.

BTW, I lean so heavy towards free agency in FOF2004 that it's insane. I would say I make an average of 2-3 draft picks per year.
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Old 01-14-2004, 12:27 PM   #3
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I had a perennial Pro bowl center named Don Zumdahl whom I picked in the 7th round. I don't have his stats handy, but he was 1st team Center like 8 out of 10 years or something like that.
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Old 01-14-2004, 12:30 PM   #4
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unrelated followup:

I think your player's career stats show how the computer seems to be letting too many players leave in FOF2004, only to replace them with similarly-skilled guys. I mean, that guy played for like 11 teams in his career!

I've even seen star players who have bounced from team to team throughout their careers. Either their demands are too high, or CPU teams aren't signing enough players to multi-year deals.
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Old 01-14-2004, 12:43 PM   #5
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#-- Chuck Tongue Retired Height: 6'1" Weight: 269lbs Pos: Nose Guard Age: 42 Born: 8/2/1983, Boston Drafted: Pick 19 of round 7 (211 overall) by Seattle Experience: 15 Years College: Boston College Championships: 2008 Seattle Seahawks 2009 Seattle Seahawks 2015 Seattle Seahawks 2018 Seattle Seahawks


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Year Team GP GS Tkl Asst Sack Frc Rec Yds TD Num Yds Avg TD 2020 BUF 16 0 19 5 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2019 BUF 16 16 51 20 2.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2018 SEA 7 0 2 0 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2017 SEA 16 16 36 17 7.5 1 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2016 SEA 16 16 30 13 8.5 2 2 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2015 SEA 16 16 33 19 4.0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2014 SEA 16 16 61 25 5.5 2 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2013 SEA 16 16 48 22 8.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2012 SEA 16 16 53 19 6.0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2011 SEA 16 16 54 21 5.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2010 SEA 16 16 49 12 8.5 1 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2009 SEA 16 16 48 25 11.0 1 2 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2008 SEA 16 12 26 18 1.5 1 2 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2007 SEA 10 0 7 5 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0 2006 SEA 16 7 12 12 3.5 0 2 0 0 0 0 -- 0 Total 225 179 529 233 74.5 9 12 0 0 0 0 -- 0
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Old 01-14-2004, 12:44 PM   #6
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Any relation to Gene Simmons?
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Old 01-14-2004, 01:10 PM   #7
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His reporter is excellent. I could spend (and have) hours just looking at things such as this.


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Old 01-14-2004, 01:38 PM   #8
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Randall Pryce
7th round pick by Atlanta in 2011
All-Pro 3 times
Drafted out of "world famous" Tarleton State

Year Team GP GS Tkl Asst Sack Frc Rec Yds TD Num Yds Avg TD
2022 BUF 16 15 137 52 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -- 0
2021 BUF 16 15 94 42 2.5 4 2 0 0 2 68 34.0 1
2020 TBY 16 16 148 41 4.0 4 0 0 0 2 5 2.5 0
2019 TBY 16 16 125 41 2.0 3 1 0 0 0 0 -- 0
2018 TBY 16 16 128 43 2.0 4 0 0 0 1 14 14.0 0
2017 TBY 16 16 163 50 1.0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0.0 0
2016 TBY 16 13 88 28 1.0 4 1 0 0 3 67 22.3 0
2015 ATL 16 16 102 35 4.0 1 0 0 0 4 59 14.8 1
2014 ATL 16 16 80 26 3.0 3 1 0 0 1 2 2.0 0
2013 ATL 16 16 84 30 1.0 1 2 0 0 0 0 -- 0
2012 ATL 16 16 86 28 2.0 2 0 0 0 1 63 63.0 1
2011 ATL 16 16 67 22 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 27 27.0 1
Total 192 187 1302 438 25.5 29 7 0 0 16 305 19.1 4
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Old 01-14-2004, 04:11 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by cthomer5000
unrelated followup:

I think your player's career stats show how the computer seems to be letting too many players leave in FOF2004, only to replace them with similarly-skilled guys. I mean, that guy played for like 11 teams in his career!

I've even seen star players who have bounced from team to team throughout their careers. Either their demands are too high, or CPU teams aren't signing enough players to multi-year deals.


This remains my biggest problem with the game. I try to bring this up every now and then (but I lack the board credibility to draw any attention to it). I get no immersion in the game because all the AI teams completely redefine themselves every year or two. Sure, building my team is fun ... but I'd much prefer to be in a league with more identity than a bunch of fantasy football rosters.

Lack of year-to-year continuity had me put this game away about a week after I got it.

(p.s. No, changing the inflation rate does not solve this for me )

Just a matter of taste I guess, but I've been a little surprised that I get no traction at all whenever I raise this.
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Old 01-14-2004, 04:15 PM   #10
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I think this is a real weakness in the game as well.
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Old 01-14-2004, 04:21 PM   #11
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This remains my biggest problem with the game. I try to bring this up every now and then (but I lack the board credibility to draw any attention to it). I get no immersion in the game because all the AI teams completely redefine themselves every year or two. Sure, building my team is fun ... but I'd much prefer to be in a league with more identity than a bunch of fantasy football rosters.

Lack of year-to-year continuity had me put this game away about a week after I got it.

(p.s. No, changing the inflation rate does not solve this for me )

Just a matter of taste I guess, but I've been a little surprised that I get no traction at all whenever I raise this.

I agree with you 100% on this and have mentioned it too. Although I didn't put the game away because of it, after about five years into a career I start seeing too much of it and either stop playing or start over.
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Old 01-14-2004, 04:27 PM   #12
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I cant post screens but this last season i drafted a RB in the 7th round named Rob Hayes. I drafted him just to fill out my roster and after training camp i was very surprised to find that Rob had turned into a very solid back. 88 breakaway speed, 88 power running, 91 hole rec, 72/85 Elusiveness, 60 speed to outside, 0 on 3rd down running and it just so happens i got another back on my roster who was a 95 in 3rd down running and became my 3rd down back to start the season. After 5 games Rob struggled to just 1.8 yards per carry and was moved to the backup RB where he still picked up very good numbers. His end of the year numbers were 156 attempts for 786 yards 5 tds, 5.0 yards per carry. He seemed to come on at the end of the season and really helped raise his yards per carry. Most importanly my #1 back went down in the final game of the season which we ended up winning to finish 11-5 and get in as a wildcard. The wildcard round we found ourselves @ Tampa Bay where Rob ran for 95 yards on 16 carries or 6.0 yards per carry and 1 TD as we won 24-17. The next round we played @ 14-2 Philly the team the won our division. Rob runs for 114 yards on 18 carries 6.3 yards per and 2 tds in a 31-21 victory. The league championship game found us on the road @ Seattle where Rob runs for 92 yards on 20 carries 4.6 yards per, but never found the endzone. We won that game 17-13 to advance to the Front Office Bowl on 3 straight road games. In the Front Office Bowl Rob gains 116 yards on 26 carries 4.4 per and a rushing td. He also caught a td pass as we win the championship 24-23 on a field goal with 18 secs left. After the season I cut my former feature back and am starting my 7th round pick 18 player i took the year before
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