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Old 12-10-2009, 08:16 PM   #401
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You wake up feeling thrilled about the last two days. As you gather you begin to notice that someone is missing...

Schmidty?

Where is Schmidty?

You search but what you find turns your stomach. His remains are found near a torn Spartans jersey.

Schmidty was the Shaman.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:19 PM   #402
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Yea so I didn't protect Danny N4, I protected Schmidty. I couldn't have come right out and said I couldn't protect Schmidty tonight. Sucks but it happens.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:20 PM   #403
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Yea so I didn't protect Danny N4, I protected Schmidty. I couldn't have come right out and said I couldn't protect Schmidty tonight. Sucks but it happens.

eeeerrrrrr.....that should be N3 I mean.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:20 PM   #404
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Great job on nabbing a wolf!

sorry to see you go, Schmidty.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:23 PM   #405
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Also that is the reason I ended up voting for The Jackal since he asked if I put in a conditional incase it was duked to Danny. I did do that, but I'm not sure that is a question that a villager would be asking the bodyguard. I think that was something a wolf would be asking himself.
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:26 PM   #406
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And I mean seriously I can't think of a single reason a villager would ask this question of the bodyguard in reference to him saying he didn't protect the seer the night before:

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You didn't put in a conditional for Schmidty in case Danny got duked?

Why would a villager ask that question?
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:26 PM   #407
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:34 PM   #408
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:35 PM   #409
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You wake up feeling thrilled about the last two days. As you gather you begin to notice that someone is missing...

Schmidty?

Where is Schmidty?

You search but what you find turns your stomach. His remains are found near a torn Spartans jersey.

Schmidty was the Shaman.

Nice touch.

Glad we nabbed another wolf. I again apologize for my screw-ups. Good luck villagers!!!!!
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:44 PM   #410
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No problem Schmidty. I don't know if we could have done much better than we did anyway.
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Old 12-11-2009, 09:46 AM   #411
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I'm going to stick with my vote from yesterday.

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Old 12-11-2009, 10:08 AM   #412
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Why would a villager ask that question?

Because at that time I was very skeptical of you being the BG, and was trying to see what your answer would be to that question.

So yeah, let's vote me off, it's not like i'm 2/2 on wolves or anything. Why would I have voted for DV if I was a wolf? No sense.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:09 AM   #413
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I figured you probably had protected Schmidty, as that was what the real BG should've done, so well played with the bluff. But if that's the reasoning you're using for me, that's just silly. Why wouldn't a villager ask that question?
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:10 AM   #414
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Well I'm certainly not voting for dubb. I'm looking at Telle the most right now.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:11 AM   #415
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I mean, at the time I voted for DV, it was not a me vs him runaway, I don't think, there were several routes for me to go. I voted for who I thought was likeliest to be a wolf, two days in a row, and you're gonna lynch me for being right? Whoo.
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Old 12-11-2009, 11:40 AM   #416
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I'm looking at Telle the most right now.

I could get behind a Telle vote for reasons I said yesterday. As I said yesterday when I looked at just the votes/timing of the votes and took everything else out of it Telle and Darth looked the worst to me.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:06 PM   #417
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I could get behind a Telle vote for reasons I said yesterday. As I said yesterday when I looked at just the votes/timing of the votes and took everything else out of it Telle and Darth looked the worst to me.

I'm still undecided today, though I don't think Telle is the way to go. KWhit's reasoning yesterday made a lot of sense to me. If Danny had been the infector, he maybe makes the play to sacrifice a wolf since he'd scan clean, but as an infected, I don't see any way that he moves his vote in the last minute to kill off another infected(or infector).
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Old 12-11-2009, 01:55 PM   #418
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That's the only problem with a Telle vote. But then that leaves me with a handful of people that I don't have much of a read on, which includes you, RD, KWhit
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Old 12-11-2009, 03:57 PM   #419
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We have to assume that someone has been infected at some point, so someone who was good isn't good anymore. So I pretty much open the suspicion to everyone except for those we know are immune to infection.

For the time being, I'm going with:

vote The Jackal

But I don't have anything solid at all to go with. Once again, I will probably defer to Claph, who we know for a fact is clear, and Gdubb, who I assume is good since no one called bs on his bodyguard reveal.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:29 PM   #420
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What are you thinking clap? If you believe me who else would you target? I'm asking because I don't know, and if I'm just going to die or vote solo, there's no point.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:30 PM   #421
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I find it hard to believe there could be 4 wolves in a 13 person game, I was thinking start with 2, possible convert to 3. I suppose 4 could work, but that would be so hard for the village to win, especially with a cunning.
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:31 PM   #422
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Well, 14 people
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:31 PM   #423
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I made that above statement because I was doubting we have anyone left except the Infector, but I suppose that's not a definite
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Old 12-11-2009, 04:33 PM   #424
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add being sick on top of this busy week now, i might fall asleep for part of this night but ill try and make sure to be around before the deadline to see if there's any hope of at least not having it be a runaway, this is kind of nuts for someone who has voted off two wolves
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:03 PM   #425
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:06 PM   #426
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vote KWhit

The bottom two on my trust list are still KWhit and Jackal. Since I don't want a pile-on, I'll put KWhit's name in the mix. I'll be around for an hour or so to be able to change things if needed.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:07 PM   #427
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Why KWhit?
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:08 PM   #428
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I think 3 is probably the right number at this point. And I think it is worth discussing, do we think the zombies could both kill and convert on the same night?

EF made mention that it would be harder for the wolves to convert than he had intended. I think the mechanic could be they can either kill or convert and the convert has a low % chance. That is why I think we have seen a kill every night.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:09 PM   #429
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I'm not sure I have ever seen a game where the wolves could kill and convert on the same night fwiw.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:09 PM   #430
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The only way I could see that happening is if there is a small chance of conversion every night in addition to a kill and they started with only 2 bad guys.
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Old 12-11-2009, 05:18 PM   #431
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Why KWhit?

The same reason I voted Darth last time. I have the least positive info on him. Nothing's really changed too much since I made up my trust list yesterday, except the guy on the bottom got lynched, and one at the top got NK'd.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:27 PM   #432
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I think it is worth a shot. Going to be an interesting end-game either way, few people without much pro/con evidence.

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Old 12-11-2009, 06:51 PM   #433
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Of course, KWhit can put me at 4 votes virtually ending my time unless one of those on me changes their mind. But that isn't seeming like it's going to happen, oh well.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:53 PM   #434
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Not sure what I can offer you. Limited availability, solid voting, case against me is dubb not liking me asking a very relevant question, I still don't see why a villager wouldn't ask it, especially when I was trying to hunt out if it was a fake reveal instead of a counter. Telle might be a wolf and need to vote for me, same with RD, not sure. I just hope the wolf is on me and isn't able to hide their vote on the other candidate.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:59 PM   #435
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*Fake reveal in case of a counter, not instead
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:08 PM   #436
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I guess we're in weekend mode!
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:08 PM   #437
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Why would you guys vote for me. I was vote #2 on DV yesterday. And he was a wolf, remember?
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:09 PM   #438
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Who would you suspect the most between J, RD, and Telle?
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:10 PM   #439
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Either J23 or RD, actually. But I probably have to vote for you to save myself.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:12 PM   #440
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I mean, I can take my vote off you, certainly, in the interest of pegging the wolf, but I'm probably a lost cause at the moment. Still, in the interest of not forcing you to vote for me yet -

unvote KWhit
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:13 PM   #441
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:13 PM   #442
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I mean, I can take my vote off you, certainly, in the interest of pegging the wolf, but I'm probably a lost cause at the moment. Still, in the interest of not forcing you to vote for me yet -

unvote KWhit

Works for me. Let's give it a shot.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:16 PM   #443
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J has certainly played the helpful villager taking a step back to post thoughts on others, a possible hiding place for a wolf. Let's test it out.

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Old 12-11-2009, 07:17 PM   #444
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Again, this is irrelevant unless Telle, dubb, or RD is around. If you guys do show up, thoughts on the matter? Sold on me?
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:55 PM   #445
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Again, this is irrelevant unless Telle, dubb, or RD is around. If you guys do show up, thoughts on the matter? Sold on me?

I just don't see that he's any more likely to be a wolf than you are, so there's no real reason to move my vote.
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:57 PM   #446
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hhhhmmmmmm......
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:58 PM   #447
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:58 PM   #448
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:59 PM   #449
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I think Jackal proved himself today to be atleast willing to be helpful and I would hate to kill him off now that he has opened up and has seemly provided some useful insight.
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:00 PM   #450
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I wish Clap was around today. He is the one guy I know that wouldn't be blowing smoke up my ass and he disappered today when we really needed him.
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