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10-28-2009, 12:44 PM
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Official 2009-2010 MLB Offseason Thread
No one West of the Mississippi will be watching the World Series so let's talk off season baseball! Well since the season is over for anyone not in Philly or NY, it's offseason time!
Dodgers have retained Colletti and Ng, so that takes care of the management, of course our CEO was fired... But that's another story.
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10-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Brad Mills -new Astros mgr.
Manny Acta -new Indians mgr. |
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10-28-2009, 01:38 PM
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no one east of the mississippi will be watching either (with the exception of the Philly/NY corridor). Baseball's done for the year...on to the offseason and other sports.
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10-28-2009, 01:52 PM
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Ha...couldn't decide on which hook to use, so you went with both?  Quote:
I just don't get this though. Would people really not watch just because it's isolated to a 100-mile stretch of the country? This is a great matchup and I don't see how any other option would be more entertaining. Last edited by Logan : 10-28-2009 at 01:54 PM. |
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10-28-2009, 02:03 PM
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Hah, yeah and by the time I noticed I needed to fix it I just said screw it. |
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10-28-2009, 02:04 PM
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I just don't find much interest in either team. Not really any players I like on either of them as well, just nothing compels me to watch. |
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10-28-2009, 02:11 PM
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Not just that, but its the defending champions vs. the Yankees. Ratings bonanza here. I mean this isn't Dodgers vs. Angels or anything...
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10-28-2009, 02:17 PM
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Fair enough, but I think you're selling the Phillies short. As a Met fan, I might not like them collectively but on an individual level a lot of those guys are just awesome to watch.
You'd really rather see Andre Ethier and James Loney than Chase Utley and Ryan Howard? |
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10-28-2009, 02:33 PM
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The Giants will do something stupid, and I will be aggravated.
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10-28-2009, 02:38 PM
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Bonds says he can still play.  |
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10-28-2009, 02:46 PM
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Back on topic...no idea what the Mets will do. Supposedly they're ready to spend again. Having everyone come in healthy and having David Wright locate his power would be good first steps.
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10-28-2009, 02:50 PM
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No idea what the Jays will do, but probably nothing good.
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10-28-2009, 03:01 PM
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I'd rather see Matt Kemp and Either then Utley and Howard, even though I can respect Utley and Howard because I do like them, but they aren't on my list of favorite players to watch. |
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10-28-2009, 03:02 PM
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It's mainly just sour grapes by Boston and LA fans. I totally understand though, if the Phillies lost in the NLCS, I probably wouldn't have much interest in the series just because I was too stubborn and hurt to watch. Very similar situation to when the Eagles lost to the Cards in the NFC championship game. I had 0 interest in the Super Bowl, but if the Eagles didn't make the playoffs at all, I'd probably would have had a lot more interest in the game. |
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10-28-2009, 03:03 PM
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Anyway, I'd really like to see the Dodgers do nothing, since I thought we had the team to win it all this year. But I would like to see some SP depth, I don't think Padilla is then answer.
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10-28-2009, 03:08 PM
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10-28-2009, 03:09 PM
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As a Phillies fan, I can say with certainty that Padilla is not the answer. He's fooled us many times with 5-10 game stretches like he did for you guys, but then he'll go in the tank, act surly, generally be a horrible teammate. I'd personally let him go - he'll goat someone into giving him 7-8M a year. |
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10-28-2009, 03:13 PM
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Braves are reportedly discussing a 3 yr deal w/ Hudson, with a hometown discount on the price.
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10-28-2009, 03:21 PM
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Yes, yes. Wasn't too long ago that Padilla, Randy Wolf, and Brett Myers were our future Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz. Funny looking back at that. |
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10-28-2009, 03:25 PM
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Banned
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That would be a good deal for you guys. A consumate professional who always puts up around a sub 4 ERA and is a good teammate. |
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10-28-2009, 03:29 PM
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This is an off-season prediction? I call it an every day prediction with the Brian "pornstache" Bochy. |
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10-28-2009, 03:55 PM
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They already did something good when they fired the GM. |
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10-28-2009, 03:56 PM
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What's the word on Lackey? I'm fairly certain I remember hearing he would be asking for Burnett type money, possibly more. I think I heard it on a sports radio talk show, and the fact that the season isn't even over yet, I'm sure it's far too early to tell. But, like Logan said, rumor has it the Mets are willing to spend, and I would assume they would look his way. For whatever reason I just never got on the whole "Lackey is an ace" bus, but the guy has posted some pretty solid numbers the past few seasons, should be interesting. Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but Wilpon apparently made a profit of 48M, contrary to reports he lost a shit ton of money. I also heard he is being sued over this, so I wonder if this whole Madoff scandal will be a factor in the Mets spending plan.
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10-28-2009, 03:58 PM
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I don't get the sentiment in the OP. I'd watch the World Series even if two dull West coast teams were playing. It's the World Series.
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It better be a hefty discount. Get someone that can hit homeruns ffs. |
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10-28-2009, 04:04 PM
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Favored Bitch #2
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Lackey is a solid #2, and he has admitted as much. With that being said, I would be surprised if he goes anywhere besides back to the Angels. He is a west coast guy and has no interest in moving east. CR, can you validate this? I am just going on what I have heard from various sources. |
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10-28-2009, 04:07 PM
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Not exactly true. The court documents said that the Mets Partnership (or whatever it's legally called) made a $48 million profit at some point. That money could have been redeemed years ago for all we know. It's believed that the Wilpons had a lot of their family money invested with Madoff. It would be very curious if they were able to pull out their sole investment right before he went bust, and he would deserve to be sued. I think the current lawsuit is pretty standard.
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10-28-2009, 04:07 PM
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This is a regular season prediction that has migrated to the offseason thread.
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10-28-2009, 04:10 PM
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I'm probably as excited for this world series as any I can't remember that the Sox weren't in. I'm a fan of baseball, I always watch the World Series.
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11-05-2009, 06:23 PM
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Rays pick up the $4M option (Might have to check my facts on that figure) on 2B Iwamura and send him to Pittsburgh for reliever Jesse Chavez.
I like the deal simply for the fact that it gets rid of some payroll and they also don't have to buy him out. It allows them to have a three-man platoon of Ben Zobrist, Matt Joyce, and Sean Rodriguez at 2B/RF. I don't know much about Chavez other than the fact that he throws pretty hard (averages 94 MPH, tops at 96-97 I believe), but the Rays definitely need some bullpen help. |
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11-05-2009, 06:47 PM
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Chavez is okay. He throws hard. But doesn't strike out enough guys. I think he is reasonably effective vs lefties. You could do a lot worse than having him as your 5th or 6th best BP guy.
Iwramura is now our highest paid player. |
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11-05-2009, 06:55 PM
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Attention GM's: Milton Bradley is on the market! Take him! Please!
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11-05-2009, 07:08 PM
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Willy Tavares is looking to bounce back in a big way. The right GM might be getting a .300 hitter, with a .380 OPB who will steal 100 bases while playing GG centerfield. You pay his salary, you can have him!
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11-05-2009, 07:19 PM
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So who wants JJ Hardy and what kind of pitching could he net? (value is obviously down)
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11-05-2009, 07:21 PM
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You want CoCo Cordero back?
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11-05-2009, 07:25 PM
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Hermida is a good pick up. At worst, he is a solid corner OF reserve with a good bat. At his age, he could still turn into an above average starter. I would have liked to see the Pirates add his bat.
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11-05-2009, 07:30 PM
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Bradley for Rowand, straight up. |
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11-05-2009, 07:31 PM
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Nope, we re-signed Trevor Hoffman already.... Need starters. A couple names I've heard are Glen Perkins from Minnesota and Brandon Morrow from Seattle. Perkins doesn't excite me all that much, but then again I can't see too many teams getting excited over Hardy after the year he had. I'd take Morrow in a heartbeat for Hardy whch tells me that perhaps the Mariners would want more. |
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11-05-2009, 07:42 PM
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Looks like another firesale in Marlin-land. Thanks for the new stadium!
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11-05-2009, 07:44 PM
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11-05-2009, 07:46 PM
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11-05-2009, 07:48 PM
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I'd give you Arroyo for Hardy.
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11-05-2009, 07:50 PM
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Seems like the Tigers are showing a lot more interest in international FA's then ever before, but that doesn't mean it'll translate to signing them.
Otherwise I am not sure what they'll end up doing. |
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11-05-2009, 07:53 PM
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I wouldn't complain about that deal. |
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11-05-2009, 07:54 PM
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Oops, sorry, Romagoth, I was avoiding this thread until the World Series was over. I describe Lackey as a high #2. He can be considered a #1, as he has been here in Anaheim, but I have never felt he really had the pitch to pitch dominance to be a true #1 a la a Sabathia, Greinke, Lincecum, etc. Also, he gets too emotional, and not in the "channel your anger into dominance" sorta way, but more the "blind rage I can't throw a bleeping strike to Jeter" sorta way. I have never actually heard how Lackey describes himself, although he is generally self-effacing to the media (when he isn't riled up) and wouldn't say he's a #1, no matter what he actually thought. He's a "just one of the guys" sorta guy. He has stated he is looking for a Burnett style contract, and I actually don't expect a hometown discount. He'll go to the highest bidder, is my guess. He is actually not a coast guy (either coast), period. He's all Texas. Always made a big deal about idolizing Nolan Ryan. If anyone gets a discount, it will be the Rangers, but they'll still have to be in the ballpark of the other offers. If all offers are close and there is no Ranger offer of note, I think Lackey will go back to the Angels. But my guess is that the Angels will set a ceiling, and it will be a good few million short of what Boston or the Mets might be inclined to give him. My prediction is, in April, Lackey will be an overpaid starter for one of the bigger money clubs (Top 5-7), but most fans of those clubs won't mind, because he won't be #1 and he will produce.
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11-05-2009, 07:56 PM
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Hmm...not too often I get big Angels news from this board first. In fact, usually I am breaking it. Fantastic. I was hoping we would bring him back and not let him hit free agency. About the length of the deal I thought was good, too. I still have to see what he signed for, but my guess is between $9-10 M per.
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. . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. |
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11-05-2009, 07:58 PM
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Hey Jets, you have any idea why the Rays didn't call Rodriguez up in September? I was pretty surprised he wasn't with the big squad for the final month. Not that he would play everyday (the Rays were still in contention, after all), but he's ready for the bigs and I would think they would want to know just what they got in him. I am looking forward to seeing how he does.
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. . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. |
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11-05-2009, 08:01 PM
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Hopefully Matt Capps gets traded. I wouldn't mind seeing Ankiel get signed to play right field either. I would assume we trade a catcher as well.
The 2010 pirates will invariably suck. But hopefully will get closer to .500. No return of Jack Wilson either plz k thx. |
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