1972 Season Thread (Classic is over. FA starts tomorrow night!)

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 09:30 PM

Spring Training is en route.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 09:31 PM

CAP CHECK

Here's the salary cap check as of tonight. Tomorrow is the cap deadline for teams to be under. This is after the most recent trade.

Code:

Rank	Team	Payroll
1	Colorado Rancheros	$68,298,539
2	Valdosta Peanuts	$66,897,220
3	Brooklyn Brownstones	$65,766,170
4	Compton Brothers	$64,712,860
5	Ann Arbor Wolverines	$64,106,390
6	El Paso Alligators	$62,427,000
7	Atlanta Firecrackers	$61,170,400
8	Quad City Thunderstorms	$59,832,350
9	Boston Settlers	$58,220,200
10	Baltimore Terrapins	$56,418,960
11	New York Highlanders	$56,080,050
12	Toronto Atlantics	$55,989,710
13	Rio Grande Roadrunners	$54,473,950
14	Columbus Crusaders	$47,092,800
15	Texas Copperheads	$38,901,600
16	Hartford Harpooners	$38,371,000

Alan T · 08-21-2008, 09:34 PM

Yeah, I guess it doesn't suprise me that bringing up like 12 guys for spring training would raise my cap about 1.8 million!

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 09:36 PM

Here are the first nine rounds of draft picks:

Code:

Front Office Offseason League
1972 Draft Log Round 1 - Round 9	
R1-R9 | R10-R19
Round 9
Round 9, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: C D. James
Round 9, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: MR E. Smith
Round 9, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: C A. Jones
Round 9, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: 2B M. Díaz
Round 9, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: MR L. Smith
Round 9, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: 2B G. Williams
Round 9, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: CL S. Gonzáles
Round 9, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: C T. Huber
Round 9, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: C G. Walton
Round 9, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: 3B F. Salas
Round 9, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SS C. Veeck
Round 9, Pick 12 - Quad City Thunderstorms: C D. Ramey
Round 9, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: CF G. Vásquez
Round 9, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: CL J. Payne
Round 9, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: LF J. Hernández
Round 9, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: 2B F. Adkins
Round 8
Round 8, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: SP M. Martínez
Round 8, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: RF A. Morán
Round 8, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP B. Rogers
Round 8, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: SP A. Hunt
Round 8, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: 3B F. Castle
Round 8, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: SP J. Collins
Round 8, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: CF S. Jones
Round 8, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: CL T. Johnson
Round 8, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: MR B. Sanders
Round 8, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: 1B R. Shannon
Round 8, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: MR E. Parrish
Round 8, Pick 12 - Quad City Thunderstorms: CL J. Tame
Round 8, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: CF O. Brown
Round 8, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 2B S. Gilbert
Round 8, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: 3B J. Arkell
Round 8, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: MR T. Walker
Round 7
Round 7, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: C F. Bennett
Round 7, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: SP L. Méndez
Round 7, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: RF R. Bell
Round 7, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: RF F. Powers
Round 7, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP A. Yao
Round 7, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: SS C. King
Round 7, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: SP B. Cox
Round 7, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: C N. Baker
Round 7, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: CF J. Cisneros
Round 7, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: SP J. Zapata
Round 7, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: CF O. Ledesma
Round 7, Pick 12 - Quad City Thunderstorms: C G. Brown
Round 7, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: SP J. McCutcheon
Round 7, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP C. Salazar
Round 7, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: LF T. Lynch
Round 7, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: CF A. Romero
Round 6
Round 6, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: C D. Smith
Round 6, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: CF J. Smith
Round 6, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP T. Cleveland
Round 6, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: SP S. Gambill
Round 6, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: RF J. Scott
Round 6, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: SP E. Salem
Round 6, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: LF N. Evans
Round 6, Pick 8 - Hartford Harpooners: SP J. Gonzáles
Round 6, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SP J. Berry
Round 6, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: RF S. Bacon
Round 6, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SP D. Milner
Round 6, Pick 12 - Quad City Thunderstorms: SP D. Ramos
Round 6, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: SP A. Álvarez
Round 6, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: C D. LeMoine
Round 6, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: SP F. Potts
Round 6, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: SP A. Medina
Round 5
Round 5, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: RF R. Magana
Round 5, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: SP E. Burns
Round 5, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: LF C. Pagán
Round 5, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: SS H. Velásquez
Round 5, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP M. Richmond
Round 5, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: 2B B. Watkins
Round 5, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: SP M. Moon
Round 5, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SS B. Regimbald
Round 5, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: LF E. Williams
Round 5, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: MR B. Head
Round 5, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: 2B R. Vázquez
Round 5, Pick 12 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 3B D. Bentley
Round 5, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: SP G. Hoskins
Round 5, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: SP R. Conley
Round 5, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: SP L. Clemente
Round 5, Pick 16 - Hartford Harpooners: CF M. Hoover
Round 4
Round 4, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: SP C. Davis
Round 4, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: LF T. Murillo
Round 4, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: C S. Parker
Round 4, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: SP M. Hughes
Round 4, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: 1B D. Watson
Round 4, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: SP A. Osborne
Round 4, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: SP W. Hoskins
Round 4, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: LF R. Reid
Round 4, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SP F. Perkins
Round 4, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: MR M. Martínez
Round 4, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SP J. De La Torre
Round 4, Pick 12 - Hartford Harpooners: C O. Diamond
Round 4, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: SP W. Snyder
Round 4, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: LF D. Miller
Round 4, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: SP M. Cameron
Round 4, Pick 16 - Hartford Harpooners: SP I. Morales
Round 3
Round 3, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: 1B W. Little
Round 3, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: SP L. Donahue
Round 3, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: 1B D. William
Round 3, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: SP J. Gravina
Round 3, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SP E. Barraclough
Round 3, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: SP M. Green
Round 3, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: SP K. Gates
Round 3, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: 2B G. Stewart
Round 3, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: MR R. Frederick
Round 3, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: 3B M. McIntosh
Round 3, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: LF C. Williams
Round 3, Pick 12 - Quad City Thunderstorms: 2B J. Blankenship
Round 3, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: SP G. Duquette
Round 3, Pick 14 - Hartford Harpooners: CF R. Goff
Round 3, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: SP B. Díaz
Round 3, Pick 16 - Hartford Harpooners: CF R. Miner
Round 2
Round 2, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: 3B A. Harrison
Round 2, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: 1B J. Poe
Round 2, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: LF K. Kelley
Round 2, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: LF J. García
Round 2, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: SS D. Stine
Round 2, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: SS R. Hoffman
Round 2, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: SP B. Silver
Round 2, Pick 8 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP T. Klein
Round 2, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SP S. Hernández
Round 2, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: CL C. Lloyd
Round 2, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: 1B R. Pacheco
Round 2, Pick 12 - Rio Grande Roadrunners: SP M. Kelley
Round 2, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: SP F. Ordóñez
Round 2, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: RF M. Daniels
Round 2, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: SP J. Matos
Round 2, Pick 16 - Valdosta Peanuts: RF D. Taylor
Round 1
Round 1, Pick 1 - Hartford Harpooners: SP D. Robinson
Round 1, Pick 2 - Texas Copperheads: 3B J. Thomas
Round 1, Pick 3 - Columbus Crusaders: SP R. Fritz
Round 1, Pick 4 - El Paso Alligators: LF G. Baker
Round 1, Pick 5 - Baltimore Terrapins: CF D. Sánchez
Round 1, Pick 6 - New York Highlanders: 1B T. Conway
Round 1, Pick 7 - Toronto Atlantics: 3B S. McGill
Round 1, Pick 8 - Hartford Harpooners: SP J. Aquino
Round 1, Pick 9 - Brooklyn Brownstones: SP B. Brooks
Round 1, Pick 10 - Boston Settlers: SP M. López
Round 1, Pick 11 - Atlanta Firecrackers: SS W. Pearce
Round 1, Pick 12 - Hartford Harpooners: SP D. Lewis
Round 1, Pick 13 - Compton Brothers: RF D. Hunter
Round 1, Pick 14 - Ann Arbor Wolverines: 1B B. Barrett
Round 1, Pick 15 - Colorado Rancheros: 1B C. Trujillo
Round 1, Pick 16 - Hartford Harpooners: SP D. Simpson

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

CAP CHECK

Here's the salary cap check as of tonight. Tomorrow is the cap deadline for teams to be under. This is after the most recent trade.

Code:

Rank	Team	Payroll
1	Colorado Rancheros	$68,298,539
2	Valdosta Peanuts	$66,897,220
3	Brooklyn Brownstones	$65,766,170
4	Compton Brothers	$64,712,860
5	Ann Arbor Wolverines	$64,106,390
6	El Paso Alligators	$62,427,000
7	Atlanta Firecrackers	$61,170,400
8	Quad City Thunderstorms	$59,832,350
9	Boston Settlers	$58,220,200
10	Baltimore Terrapins	$56,418,960
11	New York Highlanders	$56,080,050
12	Toronto Atlantics	$55,989,710
13	Rio Grande Roadrunners	$54,473,950
14	Columbus Crusaders	$47,092,800
15	Texas Copperheads	$38,901,600
16	Hartford Harpooners	$38,371,000

I knew I was close, but didn't realize I was that close. I'll have to cut someone, and the spring training guys going back to the minors should take care of the rest.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 09:41 PM

SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS
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CL
Toronto 16-8
Brooklyn 13-11
Texas 12-12
Baltimore 12-12
Valdosta 11-12
Atlanta 11-13
Rio Grande 10-14
New York 10-14

RL
Compton 17-7
Columbus 15-9
Boston 13-11
Ann Arbor 12-12
Quad City 11-13
Hartford 11-13
El Paso 9-15
Colorado 8-16

muns · 08-21-2008, 09:42 PM

needless to say the game fucked up my draft starting in round 2..... when it shoudlnt have............ ESTATIC about my round 1 picks...... Everything was where it should have been in round 1....... I had guys that were on my list that werent picked yet and with the first pick in the second round it doesnt even use my list

Alan T · 08-21-2008, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS
--------
CL
Toronto 16-8
Brooklyn 13-11
Texas 12-12
Baltimore 12-12
Valdosta 11-12
Atlanta 11-13
Rio Grande 10-14
New York 10-14

RL
Compton 17-7
Columbus 15-9
Boston 13-11
Ann Arbor 12-12
Quad City 11-13
Hartford 11-13
El Paso 9-15
Colorado 8-16

Oh no, it is the beginning of the end!!

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 09:46 PM

I'm uploading the file right now.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 09:50 PM

I think I will fall back to the middle of the pack this year. The new Gonzalez I added will get better and perhaps eventually be on Pablo's level, but not right away. And my new young relievers aren't at the level of the three I traded away. Maybe one day, but not this year. The staff will be good--too much talent not to be--but not good enough in the RL.

I think the offense can be pretty good, especially if Gilliam bounces back and with the addition of Bruce and some kids. But I don't see it being much better than last year. So that probably puts me at about 80 games and third or fourth on the year.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 09:56 PM

File is up.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 09:56 PM

So I see I didn't end up with any relievers (in the first nine rounds). You guys finally wise up or was this a combination of my focus on the other positions and the fact there were only about five draftable relievers anyway?

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So I see I didn't end up with any relievers (in the first nine rounds). You guys finally wise up or was this a combination of my focus on the other positions and the fact there were only about five draftable relievers anyway?

There were a lot fewer relievers in the file, because the game didn't create very many like last year when it barely created any pitchers and then I didn't add any to the pot, either. I just let the AI pick my draft lists, so...I don't really know who I get until they show up.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 10:05 PM

Confused again about why the salary report under Front Office differs from the numbers DC posted above. It says $66.5 M for me. So how does this work again? Want to be sure to be under, of course, but I don't want to cut players if I don't have to.

muns · 08-21-2008, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So I see I didn't end up with any relievers (in the first nine rounds). You guys finally wise up or was this a combination of my focus on the other positions and the fact there were only about five draftable relievers anyway?

Prob cause there was only 5 guys there this year. Not bitching about anything here or wanting to change anything here just venting a bit, but i am even more convinced that the draft in OOTP is broke....

When my first 17 players to be drafted are pitchers... And in round 2 I start to draft position players and 10 of those pitchers are still left sitting there...... shit is freaking broke...

Im Really really dissapointed.... I put all that damn work into a rebuild that didnt work for shit cause that game cant follow its own directions...

Sigh.....

Alan T · 08-21-2008, 10:09 PM

One of the guys I drafted has a fielding rating of 183

I don't even have a comment for that.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:11 PM

I turned on ratings over 100, so now you can see them. In the past, we couldn't. So it's possible that's happened before...or you know, not. lol

muns · 08-21-2008, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

One of the guys I drafted has a fielding rating of 183

I don't even have a comment for that.

What you dont like a combo of ozzie smith and the flash on the field

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

One of the guys I drafted has a fielding rating of 183

I don't even have a comment for that.

1B right? I noticed that.

So who got George "No GAP" Stewart?

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Confused again about why the salary report under Front Office differs from the numbers DC posted above. It says $66.5 M for me. So how does this work again? Want to be sure to be under, of course, but I don't want to cut players if I don't have to.

I have no idea what this game is doing in this regard. The number that the league financial report generates is the one I always use for the salary cap. But apparently, that number differs from the number in the Front Office --> Advanced Info part of each team if you add active roster + minor leagues and that number differs from what's on the salary report.

Needless to say, it's a convoluted mess. Big. Surprise.

Cringer · 08-21-2008, 10:16 PM

Hey, I drafted the guy with a '-' for gap power potential. Can't wait to see how that one works out. I can't download the file right this second so I have no idea if it is still like that now that he is on my team.

My draft list, which is the first I have actually done since we started the draft, seemed to work out well. I only manually did the first two rounds, which the first was pointless because I didn't have a first. Both of my 2nd round picks were starting pitchers though, which is what I wanted and needed.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

1B right? I noticed that.

So who got George "No GAP" Stewart?

Rio Grande.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer

Hey, I drafted the guy with a '-' for gap power potential. Can't wait to see how that one works out. I can't download the file right this second so I have no idea if it is still like that now that he is on my team.

My draft list, which is the first I have actually done since we started the draft, seemed to work out well. I only manually did the first two rounds, which the first was pointless because I didn't have a first. Both of my 2nd round picks were starting pitchers though, which is what I wanted and needed.

I don't know what the hell that's about, either. I've never seen that before. I'm looking into it, but I haven't changed anything.

Cringer · 08-21-2008, 10:18 PM

The guy has to have a nickname like 'Gappy' or 'Gapless', even 'No Gap' would work I guess.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 10:19 PM

Heh...you should make his nickname "GAP". I think that would be cool.

Fun fact: John King and Pedro Castillo, just traded for each other in the Gonzalez deal, have the same nickname: "Millionaire".

Yes, they're both millionaires.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:19 PM

I did a lil' research on our boy No Gap. The reason for the - ?

Is because the potential rating for that category was listed as '0'

Awesome.

muns · 08-21-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I did a lil' research on our boy No Gap. The reason for the - ?

Is because the potential rating for that category was listed as '0'

Awesome.

Thats cute

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:21 PM

In Quad City, we ran with scrubs in key positions and so, I guess it's good to see that we can hold our own and that it seems our pitchers were holding their own, though I have no idea. I need to dig deeper.

Cringer · 08-21-2008, 10:22 PM

0? Nice!

SO he can hit homeruns, but only to straight center and down the lines. Forget about doubles or triples. This will be one interesting guy. I hope he makes the majors.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 10:26 PM

One thing (among many) that I have noticed about these draft classes (and I think this is an OOTP thing, not a draft specific thing) is how ratings aren't linked at all. And I think they should be to an extent.

For instance, it's quite possible to be a line drive hitter who just rarely is able to get it over the wall. Thus, high GAP, low POW. But when is a high POW guy not able to get extra base hits? Sure, the line drive guys get them better than the make it rain guys, but enough of those hits still fall in that the POW guys should have higher GAP. There should be, IMO, a loose connection between POW and GAP, so that, GAP Pot is never less than, say, 40 then POW Pot.

Same thing with Eye/K's--they should always bet between 40 of each other. Whoever heard of a guy with a great eye who strikes out a ton?

Contact/K's is another one--guys with great CON Pot should not have very low K Pot. The ability to make contact is essentially the opposite of striking out. Unless you're saying the guy's judgment of pitches is so bad that he takes a whole lot of called third strikes.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cringer

0? Nice!

SO he can hit homeruns, but only to straight center and down the lines. Forget about doubles or triples. This will be one interesting guy. I hope he makes the majors.

Well no. That's the kicker. He had 'actual' ratings, just no potential rating. So I averaged the two and put a potential rating in there. The '0' shouldn't be there.

Young Drachma · 08-21-2008, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

One thing (among many) that I have noticed about these draft classes (and I think this is an OOTP thing, not a draft specific thing) is how ratings aren't linked at all. And I think they should be to an extent.

For instance, it's quite possible to be a line drive hitter who just rarely is able to get it over the wall. Thus, high GAP, low POW. But when is a high POW guy not able to get extra base hits? Sure, the line drive guys get them better than the make it rain guys, but enough of those hits still fall in that the POW guys should have higher GAP. There should be, IMO, a loose connection between POW and GAP, so that, GAP Pot is never less than, say, 40 then POW Pot.

Same thing with Eye/K's--they should always bet between 40 of each other. Whoever heard of a guy with a great eye who strikes out a ton?

Contact/K's is another one--guys with great CON Pot should not have very low K Pot. The ability to make contact is essentially the opposite of striking out. Unless you're saying the guy's judgment of pitches is so bad that he takes a whole lot of called third strikes.

That's one of the many flaws with this game. Good assessment. It's especially acute with pitchers.

Chief Rum · 08-21-2008, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I have no idea what this game is doing in this regard. The number that the league financial report generates is the one I always use for the salary cap. But apparently, that number differs from the number in the Front Office --> Advanced Info part of each team if you add active roster + minor leagues and that number differs from what's on the salary report.

Needless to say, it's a convoluted mess. Big. Surprise.

I moved some guys down to AAA, playing around, guys I knew wouldn't be with the big club. The salary report still has $66.5 M or whatever, while the Front Office payroll page has it as dropping to $67.6 M.

So at least I know what number to affect. I think I need to get the second number below $65 M for our league purposes, but the salary report number won't be affected until I cut a player who is set to make his money no matter what level he is on.

So I won't make a cut until I set my major league roster. Then I will make what decisions I need to get under the cap.

Commo_Soldier · 08-22-2008, 08:46 AM

Just a quick question what are we going off of for payroll again? I thought we were just using the active payroll roster.

gstelmack · 08-22-2008, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muns

needless to say the game fucked up my draft starting in round 2..... when it shoudlnt have............ ESTATIC about my round 1 picks...... Everything was where it should have been in round 1....... I had guys that were on my list that werent picked yet and with the first pick in the second round it doesnt even use my list

Just to check: you are using the "Action: Copy list to all rounds" button, right?

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Just a quick question what are we going off of for payroll again? I thought we were just using the active payroll roster.

The concern with that, was that it would create a loophole for people to keep players in the minors to stay under the cap. Which isn't even a big deal, except if teams were to sign players simply to keep them off other squads.

So we're going with the League Financial Report, as always.

muns · 08-22-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Just to check: you are using the "Action: Copy list to all rounds" button, right?

Unfortunatley...... I wish I had not, that way I could just kick myself, but this was my big draft and I went over and double and triple checked everything and even uploaded a day before so i wouldnt get caught with not being able to upload with my work schedule at the moment.

I sent a guy over at the ootp forms a PM about it....... not like that matters

I was heated about it last night, but in looking at everything, I still got potentially 4 stud pitchers even though I would have landed 5-7....... So my rebuild job wasnt all for nothing.... So i can at least can manage a smile about that..

However I would have been able to draft SP B. Silver, and SP J. Gravina and with all my other spects I have, if they all panned out....... I would have def had a chance for a major dynasty......

Im getting a head of myself there, but the potential would have been there....

ohhh well water under the bridge, just gonna go with the flow

Chief Rum · 08-22-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

The concern with that, was that it would create a loophole for people to keep players in the minors to stay under the cap. Which isn't even a big deal, except if teams were to sign players simply to keep them off other squads.

So we're going with the League Financial Report, as always.

I got under the cap with a couple cuts and some roster re-organization, so I am fine. Just glad to figure out which number I need to use to make sure I am under the cap. I had never been this close before to have to worry.

muns · 08-22-2008, 09:18 PM

DC you simming tonight or tomorrow?? just trying to figure out if i need to drink a gallon of Mt Dew to try to stay awake or not

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:22 PM

I haven't downloaded exports yet. I'm sitting here contemplating whether I want to drive to Chicago or if I want to stick to my original plan of staying here this weekend. I'll know in a few minutes what my plan is.

muns · 08-22-2008, 09:29 PM

no worries I win either way..... I get into Fool and away from all the damn students moving their apartment furniture around......... Or turn on a fan stick it as close to my bed as humanly possible and pass out.. Im good both ways

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:31 PM

I think I am gonna sim the season now AND go to Chicago afterwards. Better I do it now, because I have a bunch of stuff I want/need to get done this weekend.

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:37 PM

Stupid game. I go to download exports and I clicked the "backup league file" button, just because I figure "well, why not?" Forgetting it takes forever now to do that, whereas in the past it wasn't so annoying. Stupid game.

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:47 PM

And away we go.

muns · 08-22-2008, 09:48 PM

sweet

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:50 PM

STANDINGS AS OF APRIL 29, 1972

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Continental League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Valdosta Peanuts	20	8	.714	-
Brooklyn Brownstones	18	12	.600	3.0
Atlanta Firecrackers	16	13	.552	4.5
Toronto Atlantics	16	13	.552	4.5
New York Highlanders	12	17	.414	8.5
Rio Grande Roadrunners	12	18	.400	9.0
Texas Copperheads	12	18	.400	9.0
Baltimore Terrapins	11	18	.379	9.5

Republic League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Compton Brothers	19	10	.655	-
Colorado Rancheros	17	11	.607	1.5
Quad City Thunderstorms	16	13	.552	3.0
Ann Arbor Wolverines	15	14	.517	4.0
Hartford Harpooners	15	14	.517	4.0
Boston Settlers		14	16	.467	5.5
El Paso Alligators	11	19	.367	8.5
Columbus Crusaders	10	20	.333	9.5

Alan T · 08-22-2008, 09:51 PM

I took my biggest power bat out of the lineup on a regular basis to add more defense to my team. Glad to see so far it didn't crush me.

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:52 PM

STANDINGS AS OF JUNE 1, 1972

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Continental League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Valdosta Peanuts	41	17	.707	-
Atlanta Firecrackers	37	22	.627	4.5
Brooklyn Brownstones	35	25	.583	7.0
Toronto Atlantics	29	30	.492	12.5
Rio Grande Roadrunners	27	33	.450	15.0
Baltimore Terrapins	25	34	.424	16.5
New York Highlanders	22	37	.373	19.5
Texas Copperheads	21	39	.350	21.0

Republic League Standings
			W	L	PCT	GB
Compton Brothers	37	22	.627	-
Colorado Rancheros	33	25	.569	3.5
Quad City Thunderstorms	30	29	.508	7.0
Ann Arbor Wolverines	29	30	.492	8.0
Boston Settlers		29	31	.483	8.5
Hartford Harpooners	28	31	.475	9.0
Columbus Crusaders	27	33	.450	10.5
El Paso Alligators	24	36	.400	13.5

muns · 08-22-2008, 09:52 PM

gstelmack is not gonna like that start

Young Drachma · 08-22-2008, 09:53 PM

I knew this year would be a crap shoot. Lots of youth in key positions and not really enough firepower in spots of the rotation as I would've liked. So we're treading water. Which I hate.

08-21-2008, 09:34 PM	#3
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Yeah, I guess it doesn't suprise me that bringing up like 12 guys for spring training would raise my cap about 1.8 million! __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

08-21-2008, 09:42 PM	#7
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	needless to say the game fucked up my draft starting in round 2..... when it shoudlnt have............ ESTATIC about my round 1 picks...... Everything was where it should have been in round 1....... I had guys that were on my list that werent picked yet and with the first pick in the second round it doesnt even use my list Last edited by muns : 08-21-2008 at 09:43 PM.

08-21-2008, 09:50 PM	#10
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I think I will fall back to the middle of the pack this year. The new Gonzalez I added will get better and perhaps eventually be on Pablo's level, but not right away. And my new young relievers aren't at the level of the three I traded away. Maybe one day, but not this year. The staff will be good--too much talent not to be--but not good enough in the RL. I think the offense can be pretty good, especially if Gilliam bounces back and with the addition of Bruce and some kids. But I don't see it being much better than last year. So that probably puts me at about 80 games and third or fourth on the year. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-21-2008, 09:56 PM	#12
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	So I see I didn't end up with any relievers (in the first nine rounds). You guys finally wise up or was this a combination of my focus on the other positions and the fact there were only about five draftable relievers anyway? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-21-2008, 10:05 PM	#14
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Confused again about why the salary report under Front Office differs from the numbers DC posted above. It says $66.5 M for me. So how does this work again? Want to be sure to be under, of course, but I don't want to cut players if I don't have to. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-21-2008, 09:41 PM	#6
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	SPRING TRAINING STANDINGS -------- CL Toronto 16-8 Brooklyn 13-11 Texas 12-12 Baltimore 12-12 Valdosta 11-12 Atlanta 11-13 Rio Grande 10-14 New York 10-14 RL Compton 17-7 Columbus 15-9 Boston 13-11 Ann Arbor 12-12 Quad City 11-13 Hartford 11-13 El Paso 9-15 Colorado 8-16

08-21-2008, 09:46 PM	#9
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I'm uploading the file right now.

08-21-2008, 10:09 PM	#16
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	One of the guys I drafted has a fielding rating of 183 I don't even have a comment for that. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

08-21-2008, 10:11 PM	#17
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I turned on ratings over 100, so now you can see them. In the past, we couldn't. So it's possible that's happened before...or you know, not. lol

08-21-2008, 10:16 PM	#21
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	Hey, I drafted the guy with a '-' for gap power potential. Can't wait to see how that one works out. I can't download the file right this second so I have no idea if it is still like that now that he is on my team. My draft list, which is the first I have actually done since we started the draft, seemed to work out well. I only manually did the first two rounds, which the first was pointless because I didn't have a first. Both of my 2nd round picks were starting pitchers though, which is what I wanted and needed. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

08-21-2008, 10:18 PM	#24
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	The guy has to have a nickname like 'Gappy' or 'Gapless', even 'No Gap' would work I guess. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

08-21-2008, 10:19 PM	#25
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Heh...you should make his nickname "GAP". I think that would be cool. Fun fact: John King and Pedro Castillo, just traded for each other in the Gonzalez deal, have the same nickname: "Millionaire". Yes, they're both millionaires. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-21-2008, 10:21 PM	#28
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	In Quad City, we ran with scrubs in key positions and so, I guess it's good to see that we can hold our own and that it seems our pitchers were holding their own, though I have no idea. I need to dig deeper.

08-21-2008, 10:22 PM	#29
Cringer Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Edinburg,TX	0? Nice! SO he can hit homeruns, but only to straight center and down the lines. Forget about doubles or triples. This will be one interesting guy. I hope he makes the majors. __________________ You Stole Fizzy Lifting drinks! You bumped into the ceiling which now has to be washed and steralized, so you get NOTHING! You lose!

08-21-2008, 10:26 PM	#30
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	One thing (among many) that I have noticed about these draft classes (and I think this is an OOTP thing, not a draft specific thing) is how ratings aren't linked at all. And I think they should be to an extent. For instance, it's quite possible to be a line drive hitter who just rarely is able to get it over the wall. Thus, high GAP, low POW. But when is a high POW guy not able to get extra base hits? Sure, the line drive guys get them better than the make it rain guys, but enough of those hits still fall in that the POW guys should have higher GAP. There should be, IMO, a loose connection between POW and GAP, so that, GAP Pot is never less than, say, 40 then POW Pot. Same thing with Eye/K's--they should always bet between 40 of each other. Whoever heard of a guy with a great eye who strikes out a ton? Contact/K's is another one--guys with great CON Pot should not have very low K Pot. The ability to make contact is essentially the opposite of striking out. Unless you're saying the guy's judgment of pitches is so bad that he takes a whole lot of called third strikes. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-22-2008, 08:46 AM	#34
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Just a quick question what are we going off of for payroll again? I thought we were just using the active payroll roster.

08-22-2008, 09:18 PM	#39
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	DC you simming tonight or tomorrow?? just trying to figure out if i need to drink a gallon of Mt Dew to try to stay awake or not

08-22-2008, 09:22 PM	#40
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I haven't downloaded exports yet. I'm sitting here contemplating whether I want to drive to Chicago or if I want to stick to my original plan of staying here this weekend. I'll know in a few minutes what my plan is.

08-22-2008, 09:29 PM	#41
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	no worries I win either way..... I get into Fool and away from all the damn students moving their apartment furniture around......... Or turn on a fan stick it as close to my bed as humanly possible and pass out.. Im good both ways

08-22-2008, 09:31 PM	#42
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I think I am gonna sim the season now AND go to Chicago afterwards. Better I do it now, because I have a bunch of stuff I want/need to get done this weekend.

08-22-2008, 09:37 PM	#43
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Stupid game. I go to download exports and I clicked the "backup league file" button, just because I figure "well, why not?" Forgetting it takes forever now to do that, whereas in the past it wasn't so annoying. Stupid game.

08-22-2008, 09:47 PM	#44
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	And away we go.

08-22-2008, 09:48 PM	#45
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	sweet

08-22-2008, 09:51 PM	#47
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I took my biggest power bat out of the lineup on a regular basis to add more defense to my team. Glad to see so far it didn't crush me. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

08-22-2008, 09:52 PM	#49
muns Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baltimore MD	gstelmack is not gonna like that start

08-22-2008, 09:53 PM	#50
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	I knew this year would be a crap shoot. Lots of youth in key positions and not really enough firepower in spots of the rotation as I would've liked. So we're treading water. Which I hate.

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