Werewolf LXXVI - The Werewolf Draft! Game over, see last pages for details

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Disregarding the timing aspect of this for a moment... Do you really think that Poli would make Lathum the seer?

Irrelevent really. At that time and point I'd have given that reveal at least a day to resolve itself and changed my vote.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

If Lathum is a wolf, he is a brutal wolf and will take someone with him.

I'd be fine with that, even if it were me.

[RendeR]

Holy shit i went over 5k...like a 49posts ago!!!! Go me =)

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I'd be fine with that, even if it were me.

I don't think anyone else need worry about who lathum would take if he were the Brutal wolf


*chuckles*

[Danny]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Also, how much did relationships factor into the draft selection. Husbands/Wives, BFFs, etc.?

I imagine it probably would have. I'd be surprised if someone would draft a husband/wife or BFF as wolves together. Then again, maybe Hoops was thinking that same way.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Irrelevent really. At that time and point I'd have given that reveal at least a day to resolve itself and changed my vote.

Fair enough I suppose, but I really don't think Poli makes Lathum the seer.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Holy shit i went over 5k...like a 49posts ago!!!! Go me =)

I'm being taunted now.

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

There is a theory going around that lathum was forced into being a wolf. Since the last pick went to the wolves, Poli could have intentionally left lathum on the board.

In order for you to buy into this, you would have to think that Poli would leave a player of Lathum's caliber for that long. It would be a brilliant move if executed correctly, but I have my doubts.

I am sorry... I have played with Ardent in a lot of games (back in the day, granted) and I dont think he is that smart. No way he left Lathum there through out the whole process.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I love it when you quote yourself

I miss doing that. People starting killing me for it, even though it was my trademark. And swearing in WW.

Fucking edit this BK!!!!!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by KWhit

I'm not saying that Lathum is definitely a wolf. I'm not saying there's a 75% chance he's a wolf. But there's definitely a better chance than anyone else we can pick on day one.

.

let the slight backtracking begin

[LoneStarGirl]

I work until 3 Central time tomorrow with no computer access so I am going to have to vote tonight.. I am going to wait till after dinner to see if something comes up, hopefully a number 2 to race against Lathum because I will not be voting for him.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Lathum

this makes no sense to me.

If you believe me at 8:00AM tomorrow morning why wouldn't you believe me now?

Its all about the timing. revealing now doesn't make any sense, good bad or otherwise, its a mistake, a bad play. You're a damned fine WW player, Wolf or Villager, so you already know why I would believe you then and not now.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I don't think anyone else need worry about who lathum would take if he were the Brutal wolf


*chuckles*

Yeah, good point.

Actually, it's great to get the brutal out of the way early before we have any reveals. Since a brutal kill is never subject to a bodyguard block, it's the perfect way to off a revealed seer.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Could it be a ploy by the wolves to create a friendly atmosphere and avoid accusation when their names are brought up?

or just a way to get good information lost in all the non-WW banter too

[RendeR]

You people need to remember one important factor.


Hoopsguy IS the antichrist of WW, he knows all and controls all, if you think of an angle, he's already countered it. if you have a concrete alibi he's already cracked it.

All hail the infernal one, All HAIL HOOPS!

[Lathum]

I hate to dissapoint but I'm not the brutal wolf or any other wolf.

As for the timing of my reveal I think it would have been a challange to swing 8-10 votes tomorrow and I have a dentist apointment and won't be around much.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Lathum

let the slight backtracking begin

No backtracking at all. But for the people who are saying to themselves that my theory is a stretch, I'm just pointing out to them that even if it is a stretch and I'm giving poli too much credit, it's still a hell of a lot more likely than just a typical shot in the dark vote for player x like most day ones are.

[KWhit]

And I guess you guys have scared me away from my theory a bit by saying how out there it is. It seems like a total obvious play to me. One I would have done in poli's shoes immediately. I think it's a good strategy and one I figured a lot of people here would think of.

Maybe I'm just a lot smarter than I give myself credit for.

[oliegirl]

Lathum and Render...

[KWhit]

Out for a while guys and gals, but should be able to check back in later tonight.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Lathum and Render...

hey, jsut because two guys like to dance together.....damn sexist women....

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by RendeR

hey, jsut because two guys like to dance together.....damn sexist women....

I could have made it this...

[hoopsguy]

Olie delivering the thread-killer.

[Barkeep49]

For the record, I'm not moving my vote. This could be a fake reveal. Or he could be the fake seer. Or he could be the real seer. I don't see any of those possibilities being greater than the other so it's 2/3 eh or good, 1/3 uh oh.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

I could have made it this...

you leave Telle and I out of this =)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

For the record, I'm not moving my vote. This could be a fake reveal. Or he could be the fake seer. Or he could be the real seer. I don't see any of those possibilities being greater than the other so it's 2/3 eh or good, 1/3 uh oh.

I find it interesting that you think killing a villager is a good outcome

[claphamsa]

unvote shmitdy
vote kwhitt

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I find it interesting that you think killing a villager is a good outcome

Killing the fake seer is a neutral outcome since there's no chance for disinformation.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

unvote shmitdy
vote kwhitt

Reason?

[claphamsa]

kwhitts play bothers me. and I would like to see a second candidate emerge.
he does seem to be backtrackign on lathum, and i worry NO ONE is evern considering that lathum is telling the truth. I dont belive he is, but....... we have to at least consider he is, and if its 20-1 on say one all we have is ketchcup porn and no one wants that!

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Reason?

Dude. I am totally disassociating myself with this vote change.

If anyone (Alan, hoops, blah, blah, blah, blah....) looks at this at day 16 or whatever, I have nothing to do with it. I would rather have more votes. I mean, I don't want to be lynched, regardless of my post and deadline rants, but I'd rather have a few day 1 votes so that I blend in.

[oliegirl]

I'm at a loss right now...the "usual suspects" are of course on my list of possible votes...but I'm also thinking that Mrs Schmidty might be someone to look at - she made a very good impression in her first game, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that Hoops decided to make her a wolf and see what happens. I'm also looking at Clap, he's one that usually stays fairly UTR and isn't someone I automatically go to as a wolf suspect...

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

I'm at a loss right now...the "usual suspects" are of course on my list of possible votes...but I'm also thinking that Mrs Schmidty might be someone to look at - she made a very good impression in her first game, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that Hoops decided to make her a wolf and see what happens. I'm also looking at Clap, he's one that usually stays fairly UTR and isn't someone I automatically go to as a wolf suspect...

''serioulsy? I have never ever EVER been UTR, hell this is my first try (not doing so hot )

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

kwhitts play bothers me. and I would like to see a second candidate emerge.
he does seem to be backtrackign on lathum, and i worry NO ONE is evern considering that lathum is telling the truth. I dont belive he is, but....... we have to at least consider he is, and if its 20-1 on say one all we have is ketchcup porn and no one wants that!

I'm considering the fact that he's telling the truth. I put it at 50/50. Still not the worst thing in the world though as even if he's telling the truth he still might be the fake seer.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm considering the fact that he's telling the truth. I put it at 50/50. Still not the worst thing in the world though as even if he's telling the truth he still might be the fake seer.

fair enogh, but a second candidate will give us more info for day 2-3-4-5

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Killing the fake seer is a neutral outcome since there's no chance for disinformation.

again, I fd it odd that you think killing a villager is nuetral outcome.

generaly killing a villager is a bad thing.

[EagleFan]

Damn, there's going to be 20 pages by tomorrow.

So far we've had a cock fight between Lathum and RendeR, discussions of post counts, the newly coined olierage and "last minute" reveal with 20 plus hours left before the deadline?

Just checking back in and trying to catch up but will have to go get some sleep soon. I'll try to catch up in my free time over night but I will not be available for the deadline after all, forgot that I have a dentist appointment at that time tomorrow.

Still keeping my vote as-is for now and probably for the rest of the day as I don't know if a real reason for a change so it's a crap shoot either way.

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Telle

Vote count as of 394:

4 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (250), KWhit (278), Barkeep (283), RendeR (294)
1 - Mrs. Schmidty - EagleFan (362)
1 - OlieGirl - Passacaglia (270)
1 - Schmidty - claphasma (291)
1 - saldana - Alan T (326)
1 - DaddyTorgo - Lathum (339)
1 - EagleFan - Schmidty (394)

Since I am not going to be here tomorrow until after the deadline I need to go ahead and vote tonight. and I thought to myself, if I was hoops, who would i pick? Going down the list I said I would pick Mrs. Schmidty, because well, you always need one woman, she is new so nobody really has a read on her, she rocked her first game, and nobody is going to vote off Schmidty's wife cuz that would piss him off and we wouldn't like Schmidty when he's angry.

Second I would pick Daddy Torgo. I have played three or four games with him as a wolf and he is has always been terrific. Between him and Chief I would put them as two of the best wolves, because they are generally in the middle of the post counts, not Alant number of posts, but not UTR either. Both of them are honest to goodness solid players, and I would have picked one of them.

Third I would have picked SnDVLs, I dont know if he has played lately or not, but from what I remember he was a good player. And reading some of the comments already in this thread y'all remember him being good as well. And since he hasn't played in awhile Hoops might have taken that into consideration and thought we would let him slide for awhile without putting him on the chopping block.

Last is Kwhit... in all the games I have played with him, he has pissed me off at least once in each. He is usually pushy but right on the money with his assessments of players. And I think he is one of the more talkative players so Hoops might have made him a brutal wolf knowing he would get kicked off before the rest of his clan.


Those would be my five wolves... with consideration saldana and barkeep. I would have only picked one girl, since to be honest, we have to work twice as hard and have twice the posts to get any credit on werewolf.

With that in mind I looked at the current vote count, knowing that I would not vote for lathum, and decided to vote between Mrs. Schmidty and DaddyTorgo... I think there will be more of a chance to get more votes on DT than Mrs. so.

vote daddy torgo

[LoneStarGirl]

Wow longest post ever for me.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Just got home and have 7 pages to catch up on, 7!!

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Wow longest post ever for me.

very nice analysis!

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

again, I fd it odd that you think killing a villager is nuetral outcome.

generaly killing a villager is a bad thing.

Killing a villager who is going to confuse our ability to form a COT is absolutely a positive.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Killing a villager who is going to confuse our ability to form a COT is absolutely a positive.

i hope they take a good, long look at you tomorrow

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

i hope they take a good, long look at you tomorrow

For whatever it's worth I originally had a bad feeling about Barkeep until Cronin clarified some posts earlier... while I originally had a good feeling about you until your later posts.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

For whatever it's worth I originally had a bad feeling about Barkeep until Cronin clarified some posts earlier... while I originally had a good feeling about you until your later posts.

well you need to stick to your original feelings then

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

i hope they take a good, long look at you tomorrow

That'd be fine with me. Who doesn't enjoy seeing a smiley face all day long?

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Vote Mrs. Schmidty

I feel the love there Kwhit and thanks a lot for making me a possible target now you turkey. How does that work? Is it a vote anytime before deadline, or just someone's final vote?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

unvote shmitdy
vote kwhitt

Worst vote ever.

And:

Worst spelling ever.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by KWhit

Worst spelling ever.

i resent that

[claphamsa]

SPELLING BEE!!!!