NFL Draft 2017 thread

[Butter]

Browns taking Peppers. Good.

Setting up for the Steelers to swoop in and take Foster and he'll torture the Bengals for another decade.

[CrescentMoonie]

Browns taking a punt returner at 25.

[EagleFan]

That would be a Browns thing to do.

[JonInMiddleGA]

re: Barnett to the Eagles -- I'd rather he ended up somewhere else (I still have some issues about anybody that brought Vick back to the league) but you got yourselves a good one there. He will get after it, over & over.

re: Engram to NYG -- cool that he gets to catch passes from Eli. Can do some remarkable things for a player at his position but at the next level I imagine it will take more creativity to get similar production from him.

[CrescentMoonie]

Seahawks are going to land their prototype CB from UW, aren't they? King would make too much sense here.

Nevermind, WTF is Atlanta doing?

[Butter]

Falcons trade up to get McKinley from UCLA

[Izulde]

Really liking that Harris pick for the Dolphins, even if I wanted Lamp.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Butter

Falcons trade up to get McKinley from UCLA

Injury concerns, but dude ran a 10.4 in high school

[CrescentMoonie]

Like that McKinley pick a lot. Easy kid to root for.

[EagleFan]

Dude is fired up, I like it. Good for him.

[BishopMVP]

Do you guys think making the draft a 3 day ordeal leads to more trades at the end of the 1st round since there's a sense of finality to it after pick 32? Or is it just because of the contract system (5 years of control vs 4) that you see all these trades into the back end of the 1st round?

[EagleFan]

I think contract reasons. Get that extra year.

[EagleFan]

Did they ever say what Atlanta gave up?

[CrescentMoonie]

Contract year is huge there. If someone on your board has slid way beyond where you pictured it, that extra year could be worth a 3rd or 4th round pick to get them.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Did they ever say what Atlanta gave up?

1 (31), 3 (95), and 7 (249).

[CrescentMoonie]

Could see the Bills going Njoku at TE.

Browns just got the 29 from GB for 33 and 108 this year.

[Thomkal]

now the Browns are getting greedy

[Julio Riddols]

McKinley getting amped. If you put him on the field right now he would get 2 or 3 sacks and 2 or 3 penalties in a matter of minutes, haha.

[CrescentMoonie]

Didn't see that Bills CB pick coming at all.

[Butter]

Browns trade in front of the Steelers to get a TE, which makes sense.

[CrescentMoonie]

Hate that the Cowboys got Charlton.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Butter

Browns trade in front of the Steelers to get a TE, which makes sense.

Not a QB? Did they make that move for Njoku when they've already got Barnidge on the roster?

[Butter]

Yup Njoku

[Butter]

Charlton always struck me as slow whenever I watched him, but he dominated against OSU, so he's got that going for him.

[Abe Sargent]

I like the White pick. A lot. Underrated to my mind

[CrescentMoonie]

Stop yammering and show the freaking picks as they happen.

[Butter]

49ers trade up to get Foster.

[CrescentMoonie]

Tall corners are sliding and the Seahawks traded out of the first round.

[Butter]

Steve Smith on NFL Network saying Steelers need secondary help because "they don't have any good players there". LOLOL.

[stevew]

Franco Harris should never have a mic in front of him again after the whole Paterno debacle.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Butter

Steve Smith on NFL Network saying Steelers need secondary help because "they don't have any good players there". LOLOL.

Steve Smith is one of my all time favorite guys, lol

[stevew]

Great, we grabbed the Clint Howard of the Watt family.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by stevew

Great, we grabbed the Clint Howard of the Watt family.

Agreed. Not super impressed with or frightened of TJ.

[CrescentMoonie]

Pretty much right where Watt was expected to go. If he can stay healthy he'll be pretty good.

[CrescentMoonie]

If Foster's shoulder is good and he doesn't get popped on another sample, the 49ers got a defense changing pair for their front 7.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Really?

Yes.
2012:
1st- Rahim Moore
2nd-Brock Osweiler

2013
1st : Sylvester Williams
2nd: Montee Ball (wow)
3rd Kayvon Webster
The others players 2 5th,2 6th and a 7th rounder did not even make the team

2014
2nd - Cody Latimer
3rd Mike Schofield

2015
2nd- Ty Sambrillo
3rd Jeff Heurman

2016
1st Paxton Lynch
2nd Adam Gotsis

So he has had some good late round picks that panned out but that is as much coaching as anything and he has jut on a few of his firsts like 2011 with Von Miller which was the second pick in the draft so hard to miss and 2015 Shane Ray was a gamble that paid off.
In Denver and maybe around the country Elway is great at the free agency game and doing "stuff" with the cap to make room for those players but he is hardly a strong drafter.

[Butter]

Saints take Ramczyk. I guess it was too much to hope he would last nine more picks to the Bengals tomorrow.

[CrescentMoonie]

So, who trades up to get Dalvin Cook tomorrow night?

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

So, who trades up to get Dalvin Cook tomorrow night?

Green Bay is right there.

[Julio Riddols]

I think the Bengals are waiting for Mixon to fall to them in round 2, but I wonder who they would take between him and Cook.

[Abe Sargent]

I think the Browns, obviously, had the best 1st round

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I think the Bengals are waiting for Mixon to fall to them in round 2, but I wonder who they would take between him and Cook.

Bengals have to get better along both lines. If they are depending on Ogbuehi and Fisher to be their tackles with the sieve that is Bodine at Center, it won't matter how many playmakers they have.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I think the Browns, obviously, had the best 1st round

Not a Peppers fan at all. I also think Garrett is overrated. I like picking up another 1st and not jumping on a QB just because that's the position the guy plays. Njoku and Barnidge could be a great duo at TE.

I'll take the 49ers with the picks from the Bears for moving up 1 spot and the use of one of them to come back up and get Foster. If he's healthy, the combo of Thomas and Foster is amazing for a first round and they've still got an extra 3rd round pick this year and next.

[Abe Sargent]

Jags at 2.3 have a lot of O Line talent to consider, and I think CB King could be very temping as well if those above them pass

[Arles]

Originally Posted by Arles

My hope for Green Bay at 29 is CB Kevin King from Washington.

King is still there for GB at 32. This means that Thompson will trade down again just to drive me insane.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by stevew

Steve Smith is one of my all time favorite guys, lol

Feel free to like him, but he is a piece of shit human being who I wouldn't piss on if he was burning to death in a fire with a billion dollar reward for saving him and a full bladder.

[bhlloy]

I don't really get the Browns trading up to get Njoku - he's got some upside sure but that was one of the few positions on a 1-15 team they were actually above league average at, and you aren't going to get the full benefit of the extra contract year on a TE who typically aren't getting monster contracts anyway.

Was sure it was for Kizer or Webb when I saw it, and while I don't think either of those are necessarily great prospects that would have made a little sense just for the logic of getting a QB on an entry level contract for the extra year.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Someone could have made a killing with bets on Humphrey being the 1st Alabama player drafted, 3 WR going in the top 9, the Bears trading up to take anyone, and no Oline in the top 15.

Strange draft so far.

NFL Network just said it was the first time every with no OL in the top 19.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Butter

Bengals have to get better along both lines. If they are depending on Ogbuehi and Fisher to be their tackles with the sieve that is Bodine at Center, it won't matter how many playmakers they have.

Mixon in the 2nd, Elflein in the 3rd.

[CrescentMoonie]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

I don't really get the Browns trading up to get Njoku - he's got some upside sure but that was one of the few positions on a 1-15 team they were actually above league average at, and you aren't going to get the full benefit of the extra contract year on a TE who typically aren't getting monster contracts anyway.

Was sure it was for Kizer or Webb when I saw it, and while I don't think either of those are necessarily great prospects that would have made a little sense just for the logic of getting a QB on an entry level contract for the extra year.

I can kind of see it. Barnidge is 31, his breakout season was at age 30, and he has two years left on his contract. Probably saw a guy they felt would be the successor and grabbed him now. Could also be that Jackson either doesn't think Barnidge fits what he wants to do or that he had a fluke year he won't match again.

They've still got 7 picks to use.