Werewolf XXV: A long time ago...game over, Sith win,full role listing at 2030 - Page 3

TazFTW · 03-01-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

stupid OOC question...how many posts per page do you guys view at a time...i used to use 20 because i thought it was more managable, but i am at 50 now, with the intent to be able to make page references throughout the game.

I use 50.

SackAttack · 03-01-2006, 08:55 PM

50 here as well, but that's for everything.

SnDvls · 03-01-2006, 08:59 PM

50 for me too

tanglewood · 03-01-2006, 09:00 PM

50 pages aussi.

Alan T · 03-01-2006, 09:06 PM

I use 50 as well.

cartman · 03-01-2006, 09:06 PM

fitty

Grammaticus · 03-01-2006, 09:23 PM

kingfc22 · 03-01-2006, 09:25 PM

Grammaticus · 03-01-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

Not quite, although Disney did adapt it, so I can see the confusion.

The reference was (keep in mind I last read these 15 years ago, so my recollection may be off some), Bre'r Fox is forever chasing after Bre'r Rabbit, who routinely gets the best of him. At one point, Bre'r Fox catches him, and Bre'r Rabbit pleads "please don't throw me in the briar patch."

Bre'r Fox, wanting to cause him anguish, promptly does that...'cept the Briar Patch is Bre'r Rabbit's home.

Reverse psychology.

Good Ol' Uncle Remus. They don't make em like that anymore, literally. You definately won't see it on Disney these days. But that is best left to another thread.

Of course in WW, I wouldn't recommend you go begging for a lynch, hoping for the reverse. And don't go swingin at Dat Tar Baby.

Blade6119 · 03-01-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Good Ol' Uncle Remus. They don't make em like that anymore, literally. You definately won't see it on Disney these days. But that is best left to another thread.

Of course in WW, I wouldn't recommend you go begging for a lynch, hoping for the reverse. And don't go swingin at Dat Tar Baby.

Actually, it usually works. In most cases, the person self-voting does not get lynched....only recently has that started to change.

cartman · 03-01-2006, 09:33 PM

If anybody starts talking like Jar Jar, they are my first pick to swing from the post.

Poli · 03-01-2006, 10:07 PM

I'd encourage the seer or whoever or whatever to scan me.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-01-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

stupid OOC question...how many posts per page do you guys view at a time...i used to use 20 because i thought it was more managable, but i am at 50 now, with the intent to be able to make page references throughout the game.

I've always been on 50.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-01-2006, 10:44 PM

I'd also encourage anyone to view into my heart. There is no taint of the darkside within me. I'm an honorable Jedi Knight.

JeeberD · 03-01-2006, 11:33 PM

50. Anything else would be uncivilized...

JeeberD · 03-01-2006, 11:33 PM

Dola-

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I'd also encourage anyone to view into my heart. There is no taint of the darkside within me. I'm an honorable Jedi Knight.

Only a Sith would double post and not use "Dola". I'm on to you, Doc...

Eaglesfan27 · 03-01-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Dola-

Only a Sith would double post and not use "Dola". I'm on to you, Doc...

I guess I'm just used to a game with Blade in it where it is virtually impossible to get a dola post in

hoopsguy · 03-02-2006, 12:42 AM

Eagles, I had the same thought when I read Jeeber's comments

So I haven't seen much conversation yet on how people think the game mechanics will play out in this one. I'll start - what do we think the ratio ("villager" vs "wolf") is going to be in this game with 23 players?

saldana · 03-02-2006, 12:50 AM

It is the middle of the night, but a ripple runs through the Force with such strength that you all are awoken by it. It is again something that is unfamiliar to you. The cruiser's comlink chirps...Master Jedi Saldana is summoning you all to the galley again.

You all arrive to find him seated in the center of the room, much like he was earlier in the night, the same calm serenity on his face, the same assuredness you have become accustomed to from a member of the Jedi Council.

"My worst fears are apparently true. We on the Council have for some time felt a disturbance in the Force, yet we have not been able to determine its source. Each time we have tried to find the cause of the ripple you all just felt, it has escaped our search at the last moment."

"I am sure you are not aware of what that surge of the Force was, because it is not something that you would ever have experienced before. In fact, no Jedi alive has ever felt it until right now, for what I now know to be the cause of the disturbance has always remained hidden from us, content to hide in the darkness."

"The Dark Side of the Force is a powerful lure. It promises power over other men. It promises strength like you have never known. But these are empty promises. The Dark Side feeds on hatred and anger and fear, and the power that it yields is fleeting at best. The jealousy an ambition it breeds are what caused the downfall of those who tried to harness it thousands of years ago. We on the Council had thought that the Sith were truly gone, but it is now apparent to me that someone amongst us has turned from the Path of the Jedi. Has turned away from his teachings, and from the Force. It is only a matter of time before..."

Master Saldana's words halt suddenly. His serene features become visibly shocked. One hand reaches for his Lightsaber, the other for his own throat. His eyes begin to bulge from his head as he gasps for breath. Before any of you have an opportunity to aid your Jedi Master, he sags to the floor, the life choked from his body by an invisible hand....by the Dark Side of the Force. You stare stunned at his now lifeless body.

Who could be powerful enough to strike down such a powerful Jedi without even wielding a lightsaber?!

Looks of disbelief are exchanged by all of the Jedi in the room. Master Saldana had told you of the need to control your fear, but in the face of such an obviously powerful enemy, such control will be difficult, all the more so now that you are on your own with Master Saldana to lead you.

It is now Day 1. Votes must be posted by 9:30PM EST, and must be posted in bold. you may unvote and revote in the same post.

May the Force be with you all.

TazFTW · 03-02-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Eagles, I had the same thought when I read Jeeber's comments

So I haven't seen much conversation yet on how people think the game mechanics will play out in this one. I'll start - what do we think the ratio ("villager" vs "wolf") is going to be in this game with 23 players?

19/4 with the ability to convert.

dubb93 · 03-02-2006, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

19/4 with the ability to convert.

I hate the freakin ability to convert. It has changed the outcome some games when a conversion will come with just 5 or so players left. I'm thinking the ratio is probably something like 18-5 and I hope no ability to convert(although if it is in there it probably is 19-4.)

SackAttack · 03-02-2006, 01:07 AM

saldana must've had the fish.

Over Rio Grande.

TazFTW · 03-02-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I hate the freakin ability to convert. It has changed the outcome some games when a conversion will come with just 5 or so players left. I'm thinking the ratio is probably something like 18-5 and I hope no ability to convert(although if it is in there it probably is 19-4.)

Unfortunately, I think the Star Wars universe is prone to having conversions. Master Saldana mentioning "The Dark Side of the Force is a powerful lure." would indicate that a Jedi can fall to dark side.

dubb93 · 03-02-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TazFTW

Unfortunately, I think the Star Wars universe is prone to having conversions. Master Saldana mentioning "The Dark Side of the Force is a powerful lure." would indicate that a Jedi can fall to dark side.

AHHH..too true. I guess I wasn't thinking as much as I was hoping something I never really cared for about the game wasn't included. I'm guessing the 19-4 is probably the number we are looking at right now then.

Qwikshot · 03-02-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

saldana must've had the fish.

Over Rio Grande.

I thought it was Nacho Grande...

cartman · 03-02-2006, 07:56 AM

I can't tell you how happy I am to not see any Jar-Jar speak.

hoopsguy · 03-02-2006, 08:10 AM

Not since Post #26, anyways ...

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stkelly52 · 03-02-2006, 08:47 AM

I am going to be out all day today, but I want to make sure that I get a vote in, even if it will be wrong. I will try to get back and change my vote to reflect what we learn today.
I used a random number generator to determine my vote:
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Barkeep49 · 03-02-2006, 09:18 AM

I would encourage the seerr or whoever not to scan me.

Alan T · 03-02-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I would encourage the seerr or whoever not to scan me.

lol, this made me laugh this morning

I was getting a kick however out of all of the people asking for seer scans on day 1.

hoopsguy · 03-02-2006, 09:33 AM

OK, so for people who think that the game will break out with 19-4 or 18-5 what kind of factions do you expect to see? Just one block or multiple groups?

I'm pretty sure that I'm not the biggest Star Wars fanboy on this message board, but I don't ever recall having more than two Sith at a time in any of the movies - master and student. The closest they ever came to three was with trying to bring Luke over to the dark side.

But if this is taking place thousands of years before that time then maybe that is how we get 4-5 dark jedi. I'll defer to someone who has read the books or has a stronger recollection of history references in the movies.

Qwikshot · 03-02-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Not since Post #26, anyways ...

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Alan T · 03-02-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, so for people who think that the game will break out with 19-4 or 18-5 what kind of factions do you expect to see? Just one block or multiple groups?

I'm pretty sure that I'm not the biggest Star Wars fanboy on this message board, but I don't ever recall having more than two Sith at a time in any of the movies - master and student. The closest they ever came to three was with trying to bring Luke over to the dark side.

But if this is taking place thousands of years before that time then maybe that is how we get 4-5 dark jedi. I'll defer to someone who has read the books or has a stronger recollection of history references in the movies.

I'm not a huge starwars follower either, but I've seen all the movies at least.

Maybe its like 1 Dark master, and one pupil, then the master has the ability to convert someone to the dark side each time his pupil dies? That seems somewhat realistic maybe?

cartman · 03-02-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

lol, this made me laugh this morning

I was getting a kick however out of all of the people asking for seer scans on day 1.

I'm a n00b at this game, only participating one other time, and I got killed off rather quickly in that one. Can some one fill me in on what a "seer scan" is?

hoopsguy · 03-02-2006, 09:46 AM

All is forgiven (but not forgotten) at this point, Qwik

saldana · 03-02-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I'm a n00b at this game, only participating one other time, and I got killed off rather quickly in that one. Can some one fill me in on what a "seer scan" is?

a common role assignment is some form of the seer...each night that player can "view" another player in the game and find out the other persons role

note

osted for informational purposes only, not as a declaration of what roles may or may not be in this game

hoopsguy · 03-02-2006, 10:23 AM

Alan, that does make sense to me but there has to be some end point as well in terms of conversions (I would think).

Barkeep49 · 03-02-2006, 10:28 AM

There has to be limit to it however unlike what Alan is suggesting otherwise the Jedi could never win.

SnDvls · 03-02-2006, 10:36 AM

I would think that we are starting out with several due to the rules description by Saldana in the first post. I guess it would depend on what you defined "run of the mill" rules.

Lathum · 03-02-2006, 11:01 AM

Jedi checking in, sorry I have been quiet, I went to a Dropkick Murphys show in Manhatten yesterday and I just woke up.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Eagles, I had the same thought when I read Jeeber's comments

So I haven't seen much conversation yet on how people think the game mechanics will play out in this one. I'll start - what do we think the ratio ("villager" vs "wolf") is going to be in this game with 23 players?

I think we are looking at 4-5 Sith. Maybe 3 if they have a really powerful conversion ability. 5 original Sith would be the max, I suspect.

Lathum · 03-02-2006, 11:02 AM

Vote AlanT

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I hate the freakin ability to convert. It has changed the outcome some games when a conversion will come with just 5 or so players left. I'm thinking the ratio is probably something like 18-5 and I hope no ability to convert(although if it is in there it probably is 19-4.)

I see it being very unlikely that there is no conversion. A big part of the Star Wars Mythos is the fall from the glorious path of the Jedi. The interesting question: Could there be any chance for redemption? Probably not, as it would be a tough game mechanic to balance.

Barkeep49 · 03-02-2006, 11:06 AM

Vote Lathum. Voting with-out an explanation does nothing to help the Jedi.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2006, 11:09 AM

Dola (Maybe

) -

Well, others have already said the same thing, I said about conversions. My guess is that the Sith might be able to convert more than 1, but that it will be limited by either time or perhaps their convertee dying, or perhaps even both. If they can convert more than 1 person (I would think 2 would probably be the max) then I think we might only have 3 original Sith. Of course, these are just guesses on my part.

Lathum · 03-02-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Vote Lathum. Voting with-out an explanation does nothing to help the Jedi.

are you serious? it's day one, everyone votes without explination.

btw I picked alanT because I think his suggestion about a sith lord being able to convert a new pupil preposterous and he may be leading us down the wrong path on purpous.

Eaglesfan27 · 03-02-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

are you serious? it's day one, everyone votes without explination.

btw I picked alanT because I think his suggestion about a sith lord being able to convert a new pupil preposterous and he may be leading us down the wrong path on purpous.

I didn't find it preposterous. Actually, I'm guessing that the same thing might be possible. It certainly fits with the Star Wars Mythos.

pennywisesb · 03-02-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

We on the Council had thought that the Sith were truly gone, but it is now apparent to me that someone amongst us has turned from the Path of the Jedi. Has turned away from his teachings, and from the Force. It is only a matter of time before..."

Who could be powerful enough to strike down such a powerful Jedi without even wielding a lightsaber?!

I know we are trying to figure out what the numbers could be, but it seems as though Saldana was using singular references in his description. Maybe there is only one Sith Lord to start and he has to convert pupils. Just a thought but that would follow the whole Star Wars story line alittle closer than having 4-5 to start.

Lathum · 03-02-2006, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

I didn't find it preposterous. Actually, I'm guessing that the same thing might be possible. It certainly fits with the Star Wars Mythos.

so then how would the game end? by killing the sith lord?

Blade6119 · 03-02-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

so then how would the game end? by killing the sith lord?

That vampire game was crazy!! Fozzie converted me(im still pissed he tried to frame me by converting me)...is he in this one? Either way, that game was crazy! Thanks for reminding me!

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cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	fitty __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-01-2006, 09:25 PM	#108
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	50 __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

03-01-2006, 09:33 PM	#111
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	If anybody starts talking like Jar Jar, they are my first pick to swing from the post. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-01-2006, 10:07 PM	#112
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'd encourage the seer or whoever or whatever to scan me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-01-2006, 10:44 PM	#114
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'd also encourage anyone to view into my heart. There is no taint of the darkside within me. I'm an honorable Jedi Knight. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

03-01-2006, 08:55 PM	#102
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	50 here as well, but that's for everything.

03-01-2006, 08:59 PM	#103
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	50 for me too

03-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#104
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	50 pages aussi.

03-01-2006, 09:06 PM	#105
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I use 50 as well.

03-01-2006, 09:23 PM	#107
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	50

03-01-2006, 11:33 PM	#115
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	50. Anything else would be uncivilized... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

03-02-2006, 12:42 AM	#118
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Eagles, I had the same thought when I read Jeeber's comments So I haven't seen much conversation yet on how people think the game mechanics will play out in this one. I'll start - what do we think the ratio ("villager" vs "wolf") is going to be in this game with 23 players?

03-02-2006, 12:50 AM	#119
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	It is the middle of the night, but a ripple runs through the Force with such strength that you all are awoken by it. It is again something that is unfamiliar to you. The cruiser's comlink chirps...Master Jedi Saldana is summoning you all to the galley again. You all arrive to find him seated in the center of the room, much like he was earlier in the night, the same calm serenity on his face, the same assuredness you have become accustomed to from a member of the Jedi Council. "My worst fears are apparently true. We on the Council have for some time felt a disturbance in the Force, yet we have not been able to determine its source. Each time we have tried to find the cause of the ripple you all just felt, it has escaped our search at the last moment." "I am sure you are not aware of what that surge of the Force was, because it is not something that you would ever have experienced before. In fact, no Jedi alive has ever felt it until right now, for what I now know to be the cause of the disturbance has always remained hidden from us, content to hide in the darkness." "The Dark Side of the Force is a powerful lure. It promises power over other men. It promises strength like you have never known. But these are empty promises. The Dark Side feeds on hatred and anger and fear, and the power that it yields is fleeting at best. The jealousy an ambition it breeds are what caused the downfall of those who tried to harness it thousands of years ago. We on the Council had thought that the Sith were truly gone, but it is now apparent to me that someone amongst us has turned from the Path of the Jedi. Has turned away from his teachings, and from the Force. It is only a matter of time before..." Master Saldana's words halt suddenly. His serene features become visibly shocked. One hand reaches for his Lightsaber, the other for his own throat. His eyes begin to bulge from his head as he gasps for breath. Before any of you have an opportunity to aid your Jedi Master, he sags to the floor, the life choked from his body by an invisible hand....by the Dark Side of the Force. You stare stunned at his now lifeless body. Who could be powerful enough to strike down such a powerful Jedi without even wielding a lightsaber?! Looks of disbelief are exchanged by all of the Jedi in the room. Master Saldana had told you of the need to control your fear, but in the face of such an obviously powerful enemy, such control will be difficult, all the more so now that you are on your own with Master Saldana to lead you. It is now Day 1. Votes must be posted by 9:30PM EST, and must be posted in bold. you may unvote and revote in the same post. May the Force be with you all. Last edited by saldana : 03-02-2006 at 12:52 AM.

03-02-2006, 01:07 AM	#122
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	saldana must've had the fish. Over Rio Grande.

03-02-2006, 07:56 AM	#126
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I can't tell you how happy I am to not see any Jar-Jar speak. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

03-02-2006, 08:47 AM	#128
stkelly52 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Seattle WA	I am going to be out all day today, but I want to make sure that I get a vote in, even if it will be wrong. I will try to get back and change my vote to reflect what we learn today. I used a random number generator to determine my vote: Vote Kingfc __________________ Check out an undrafted free agent's attempt to make the Hall of Fame: Running to the Hall Now nominated for a Golden Scribe!

03-02-2006, 09:18 AM	#129
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I would encourage the seerr or whoever not to scan me.

03-02-2006, 09:33 AM	#131
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, so for people who think that the game will break out with 19-4 or 18-5 what kind of factions do you expect to see? Just one block or multiple groups? I'm pretty sure that I'm not the biggest Star Wars fanboy on this message board, but I don't ever recall having more than two Sith at a time in any of the movies - master and student. The closest they ever came to three was with trying to bring Luke over to the dark side. But if this is taking place thousands of years before that time then maybe that is how we get 4-5 dark jedi. I'll defer to someone who has read the books or has a stronger recollection of history references in the movies.

03-02-2006, 09:46 AM	#135
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	All is forgiven (but not forgotten) at this point, Qwik

03-02-2006, 10:23 AM	#137
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Alan, that does make sense to me but there has to be some end point as well in terms of conversions (I would think).

03-02-2006, 10:28 AM	#138
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	There has to be limit to it however unlike what Alan is suggesting otherwise the Jedi could never win.

03-02-2006, 10:36 AM	#139
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I would think that we are starting out with several due to the rules description by Saldana in the first post. I guess it would depend on what you defined "run of the mill" rules.

03-02-2006, 11:01 AM	#140
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Jedi checking in, sorry I have been quiet, I went to a Dropkick Murphys show in Manhatten yesterday and I just woke up.

03-02-2006, 11:02 AM	#142
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Vote AlanT

03-02-2006, 11:06 AM	#144
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Vote Lathum. Voting with-out an explanation does nothing to help the Jedi.

03-02-2006, 11:09 AM	#145
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Dola (Maybe ) - Well, others have already said the same thing, I said about conversions. My guess is that the Sith might be able to convert more than 1, but that it will be limited by either time or perhaps their convertee dying, or perhaps even both. If they can convert more than 1 person (I would think 2 would probably be the max) then I think we might only have 3 original Sith. Of course, these are just guesses on my part. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

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