Werewolf XLVIII - The horror of sorcery hill (Game over) - Page 10

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Sorry Swaggs, I didn't realize you'd be leaving shortly. I'll leave it up to you to decide what to do.

I'll mix it together.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:33 AM

I think we can do one thing that helps us, and one thing that hurts them.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:35 AM

Oh, I see what you mean about your recipe. My guess was that it would help us, but I could also see it hurting them. Some help I am, huh?

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:36 AM

I'm going to pass it to either Pass or path, so there is some doubt as to who will have it.

You two can discuss what to do with it?

I think we should try to use it today, before night fall.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:37 AM

I agree about using it before nightfall. Why run the risk of getting killed before we can use it?

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:38 AM

Pass, do you trust Path enough for me to share items with him?

I am thinking about giving him my stuff so that he can see if any of it works for him.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

My inclination at this point is to look at people who haven't come forth with any information. These include AE, path, hoops, and ntn (who disclosed an item that he no longer claims to have).

This really seems strange to me that you would say this, Pass. I have no qualms about saying this now, since I think I know what happened to it. I no longer claim to have the lens since Ipassed it on to you, Pass.

I will say that I did find an interesting recipe last night however.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Pass, do you trust Path enough for me to share items with him?

I am thinking about giving him my stuff so that he can see if any of it works for him.

Yeah, I do. He gave us the stuff for it, with no questions asked, really. And it's not like he expected it to get passed back to him.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:41 AM

I got a recipe for a sleeping potion.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:41 AM

Thanks, Swaggs. I *think* i know what you sent me. The recipe you had?

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:42 AM

and Iwas in the library last night again

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

This really seems strange to me that you would say this, Pass. I have no qualms about saying this now, since I think I know what happened to it. I no longer claim to have the lens since Ipassed it on to you, Pass.

I will say that I did find an interesting recipe last night however.

Yeah, I really only said that to throw the wolves off the trail, and not look to me for the lens.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thanks, Swaggs. I *think* i know what you sent me. The recipe you had?

Yes.

You can drink it yourself or throw it at someone.

I kind of suggest the latter, but if you have time to have a discussion with the rest of the guys, it might give you some better insight.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:44 AM

All right, since hoops has been in this thread chomping at the bit to figure out what's going on...

I've got holy water.

We're not sure whether this is something that will help a good guy or hurt a bad guy...maybe it's both. Any thoughts?

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:44 AM

I have assumed that you have passed it on as well. Which is why idid not mind sharing that with everyone.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:45 AM

I imagine Alan has been like a switchboard operator for the last hour.

Alan T · 07-06-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I imagine Alan has been like a switchboard operator for the last hour.

It has luckily been a slow day at work for me

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

It has luckily been a slow day at work for me

Thanks.

This has gotten interesting.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:47 AM

I can think of several things holy water could be used for Pass, dunno if any of them are true of course and am talking outta my head but...

kills a wolf and only a wolf
converts a wolf
transforms someone into a seer
santifies object for a spell or potion

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I have assumed that you have passed it on as well. Which is why idid not mind sharing that with everyone.

No, actually, I kept it. You gave me the idea of trying to make the crystal ball with it, but I never had a recipe to confirm that I could make it. Instead we managed to get this holy water, so I think it was still a win for the village.

Swaggs · 07-06-2007, 10:49 AM

Well, I'm sorry I'm going to miss this discussion, but I'm headed to work.

I'll be back around 6 PM EST.

Alan, are we playing tomorrow or going with an exteded weekend?

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

All right, since hoops has been in this thread chomping at the bit to figure out what's going on...

I've got holy water.

We're not sure whether this is something that will help a good guy or hurt a bad guy...maybe it's both. Any thoughts?

I don't "chomp" this game

Seriously, the method of death has been snapped necks. That doesn't sound like vampires, which is what holy water is normally associated with harming. The opposition is supposed to be a sect, which sounds like humans at face value. So I'm more inclined to think the holy water offers some kind of protection against dark magics than harming the casters of said magics.

It potentially could act as a one-time see as well, if the dark mages shrink from it while the good guys are unharmed.

I'm going to take another look at the list of ingredients to see if there is something that sounds more like "bodyguard" or "seer" than holy water.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:55 AM

there is hoops, isnt there a potion of inspection and ithink a potion of protection too

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:56 AM

sorry that is a spell Protect not a potion

Alan T · 07-06-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Well, I'm sorry I'm going to miss this discussion, but I'm headed to work.

I'll be back around 6 PM EST.

Alan, are we playing tomorrow or going with an exteded weekend?

Weekend schedule is posted in post #2. Its an extended schedule

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:58 AM

I don't see potion of protection on there.

path12 · 07-06-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Yes.

You can drink it yourself or throw it at someone.

I kind of suggest the latter, but if you have time to have a discussion with the rest of the guys, it might give you some better insight.

I love understatement.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 10:59 AM

The other thing we can do is try to make this into a holy shield. That might be more effective, no?

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 10:59 AM

I made a mistake , Pass. it is a spell

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 11:00 AM

about the holy water, wouldn't it be a good idea to have someone go study it in the great hall to find out what it does?

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 11:01 AM

Yeah, a review of the spells/potions suggests that there is probably some overlap - that there are multiple ways of achieving the same effect, depending on what path you take.

hoopsguy · 07-06-2007, 11:06 AM

Holy water leading to Holy Shield makes sense, although I have not yet heard an item that makes sense to combine with the holy water to yield this result. I doubt it is involved with the poison knife, acid knife, or crystal ball.

Studying the item tonight would probably answer our questions, but it would need to be passed someplace where the wolves are unlikely to go so we can maximize its use tomorrow.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 11:08 AM

AE, I've got you down as the only person not to reveal anything -- unless that yellow flower you mentioned is some kind of item? Just something for when you get here.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 11:16 AM

Pass can you post the list of what you know to be in the game?

path12 · 07-06-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Studying the item tonight would probably answer our questions, but it would need to be passed someplace where the wolves are unlikely to go so we can maximize its use tomorrow.

Not necessarily. I went to the library last night to try and find out more about the container I found, but got no result except the recipe I mentioned.

path12 · 07-06-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

AE, I've got you down as the only person not to reveal anything -- unless that yellow flower you mentioned is some kind of item? Just something for when you get here.

I don't know that not revealing is worth voting for in itself. There was no way I was going to say what I had until there was a specific request for it by someone I had at least some level of trust in or until I found out what to do with it myself in order to keep off the night kill radar.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM

Sure.

artificial lens
beeswax
cactus bulb
mercury
mushrooms
newt tail
peppers
soured milk
spring water
vine

The only thing that should really look new on here might be spring water, although I think Alan might have mentioned it in a rules clarification post or something (cuz I asked him a stupid question about it, getting him confused). I started with the spring water.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM

I definitely think, from my PM message, that there is a cumulative effect of doing the same action over again so if you went to the library and researched the container again you'd be more likely to get a positive result.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 11:23 AM

to study an item you need to go to the great hall though path.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 11:24 AM

Thanks Pass. I have an item not on that list, lizard tail. I will likely pass my items by the end of the day rather than risk myself becoming a kill target. Which means, sigh, I'm going to ahve to trust someone (or two someones).

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by path12

I don't know that not revealing is worth voting for in itself. There was no way I was going to say what I had until there was a specific request for it by someone I had at least some level of trust in or until I found out what to do with it myself in order to keep off the night kill radar.

I'm not saying that he gets my vote or anything. I just want to hear some reason why he might not. There's 10 ingredients, and in the circle of trust we have going, we've got recipes that use 5 of them (mushrooms, newt tail, peppers, spring water, and vine), and we haven't heard anything about the newt tail or vine, so there's a good chance he can help the village, IMO. I think we've made a lot of strides in communication so far today, and I want to keep it going.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 11:27 AM

wait that is for magical items, path. sorry thought that was good advice. I think that all you will get in the library is another recipe, though...maybe a spell (though no one has gotten one of those to my knowledge.)

path12 · 07-06-2007, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

to study an item you need to go to the great hall though path.

You do? I must have missed that. I thought there was a mention in the rules about the library being the place to research items. Crap.

path12 · 07-06-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm not saying that he gets my vote or anything. I just want to hear some reason why he might not. There's 10 ingredients, and in the circle of trust we have going, we've got recipes that use 5 of them (mushrooms, newt tail, peppers, spring water, and vine), and we haven't heard anything about the newt tail or vine, so there's a good chance he can help the village, IMO. I think we've made a lot of strides in communication so far today, and I want to keep it going.

BTW, another ingredient is mold.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I definitely think, from my PM message, that there is a cumulative effect of doing the same action over again so if you went to the library and researched the container again you'd be more likely to get a positive result.

That makes sense to me. That's why I chose to stay in the library again, in case I had built some skill at it.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 11:31 AM

Pass as long as you have stuff together, do you have the known recipies and what they ask for? For instance you mention the newt's tail and vine being in a recipe but I don't recall which one they've gone to.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 11:34 AM

That's a recipe that I learned on Night 1, and revealed the morning of Day 2. Eternal Bond potion.

Passacaglia · 07-06-2007, 11:37 AM

There are some other recipes that are known as well, but I'm not sure if they should be revealed publicly at this point. I guess I feel comfortable revealing that the holy water we made was spring water plus a special container to make holy water in (or a holy flask). I dunno if that counts as an ingredient...maybe it should. The only other recipe I know is for the other potion that we made today.

Barkeep49 · 07-06-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

There are some other recipes that are known as well, but I'm not sure if they should be revealed publicly at this point. I guess I feel comfortable revealing that the holy water we made was spring water plus a special container to make holy water in (or a holy flask). I dunno if that counts as an ingredient...maybe it should. The only other recipe I know is for the other potion that we made today.

Gotcha.

ntndeacon · 07-06-2007, 11:59 AM

my potion also uses one of the ingriedient that is useful in another potion. I don't think the other ingridient(s) have been seen yet.

07-06-2007, 10:36 AM	#454
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm going to pass it to either Pass or path, so there is some doubt as to who will have it. You two can discuss what to do with it? I think we should try to use it today, before night fall. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 10:38 AM	#456
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Pass, do you trust Path enough for me to share items with him? I am thinking about giving him my stuff so that he can see if any of it works for him. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 10:45 AM	#466
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I imagine Alan has been like a switchboard operator for the last hour. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 10:49 AM	#471
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, I'm sorry I'm going to miss this discussion, but I'm headed to work. I'll be back around 6 PM EST. Alan, are we playing tomorrow or going with an exteded weekend? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-06-2007, 10:33 AM	#452
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think we can do one thing that helps us, and one thing that hurts them.

07-06-2007, 10:35 AM	#453
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Oh, I see what you mean about your recipe. My guess was that it would help us, but I could also see it hurting them. Some help I am, huh?

07-06-2007, 10:37 AM	#455
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I agree about using it before nightfall. Why run the risk of getting killed before we can use it?

07-06-2007, 10:41 AM	#459
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I got a recipe for a sleeping potion.

07-06-2007, 10:41 AM	#460
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Thanks, Swaggs. I think i know what you sent me. The recipe you had?

07-06-2007, 10:42 AM	#461
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	and Iwas in the library last night again

07-06-2007, 10:44 AM	#464
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	All right, since hoops has been in this thread chomping at the bit to figure out what's going on... I've got holy water. We're not sure whether this is something that will help a good guy or hurt a bad guy...maybe it's both. Any thoughts?

07-06-2007, 10:44 AM	#465
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I have assumed that you have passed it on as well. Which is why idid not mind sharing that with everyone.

07-06-2007, 10:47 AM	#469
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I can think of several things holy water could be used for Pass, dunno if any of them are true of course and am talking outta my head but... kills a wolf and only a wolf converts a wolf transforms someone into a seer santifies object for a spell or potion

07-06-2007, 10:55 AM	#473
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	there is hoops, isnt there a potion of inspection and ithink a potion of protection too

07-06-2007, 10:56 AM	#474
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	sorry that is a spell Protect not a potion

07-06-2007, 10:58 AM	#476
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I don't see potion of protection on there.

07-06-2007, 10:59 AM	#478
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	The other thing we can do is try to make this into a holy shield. That might be more effective, no?

07-06-2007, 10:59 AM	#479
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I made a mistake , Pass. it is a spell

07-06-2007, 11:00 AM	#480
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	about the holy water, wouldn't it be a good idea to have someone go study it in the great hall to find out what it does?

07-06-2007, 11:01 AM	#481
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Yeah, a review of the spells/potions suggests that there is probably some overlap - that there are multiple ways of achieving the same effect, depending on what path you take.

07-06-2007, 11:06 AM	#482
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Holy water leading to Holy Shield makes sense, although I have not yet heard an item that makes sense to combine with the holy water to yield this result. I doubt it is involved with the poison knife, acid knife, or crystal ball. Studying the item tonight would probably answer our questions, but it would need to be passed someplace where the wolves are unlikely to go so we can maximize its use tomorrow.

07-06-2007, 11:08 AM	#483
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	AE, I've got you down as the only person not to reveal anything -- unless that yellow flower you mentioned is some kind of item? Just something for when you get here.

07-06-2007, 11:16 AM	#484
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Pass can you post the list of what you know to be in the game?

07-06-2007, 11:23 AM	#487
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Sure. artificial lens beeswax cactus bulb mercury mushrooms newt tail peppers soured milk spring water vine The only thing that should really look new on here might be spring water, although I think Alan might have mentioned it in a rules clarification post or something (cuz I asked him a stupid question about it, getting him confused). I started with the spring water.

07-06-2007, 11:23 AM	#488
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I definitely think, from my PM message, that there is a cumulative effect of doing the same action over again so if you went to the library and researched the container again you'd be more likely to get a positive result.

07-06-2007, 11:23 AM	#489
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	to study an item you need to go to the great hall though path.

07-06-2007, 11:24 AM	#490
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Thanks Pass. I have an item not on that list, lizard tail. I will likely pass my items by the end of the day rather than risk myself becoming a kill target. Which means, sigh, I'm going to ahve to trust someone (or two someones).

07-06-2007, 11:27 AM	#492
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	wait that is for magical items, path. sorry thought that was good advice. I think that all you will get in the library is another recipe, though...maybe a spell (though no one has gotten one of those to my knowledge.)

07-06-2007, 11:31 AM	#496
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Pass as long as you have stuff together, do you have the known recipies and what they ask for? For instance you mention the newt's tail and vine being in a recipe but I don't recall which one they've gone to.

07-06-2007, 11:34 AM	#497
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	That's a recipe that I learned on Night 1, and revealed the morning of Day 2. Eternal Bond potion.

07-06-2007, 11:37 AM	#498
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	There are some other recipes that are known as well, but I'm not sure if they should be revealed publicly at this point. I guess I feel comfortable revealing that the holy water we made was spring water plus a special container to make holy water in (or a holy flask). I dunno if that counts as an ingredient...maybe it should. The only other recipe I know is for the other potion that we made today.

07-06-2007, 11:59 AM	#500
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	my potion also uses one of the ingriedient that is useful in another potion. I don't think the other ingridient(s) have been seen yet.

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