Werewolf L Kate Beckinsale - day 7, deadline Thursday 10pm Eastern Time - Page 10

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Yeah, i am pretty stunned by Alan T's vote after all that yacking. I expected his vote to be on barkeep as well and shifted to him based on the ongoing conversation.

Stupid ties.

Well it's only a tie depending on how he interprets the rules. I think your intent was clear and the vote easy to count, so I'll be interested to see if he does what the rules say or what common sense says

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:15 PM

So this simultaneous thing means that the wolves are unlikely to have killed me since I was raising so much suspicion. Yeah for living another day, I suppose.

Antmeister · 07-28-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

that's an interesting fustercluck there

That's an understatement. I am not quite sure why people are so strong on Neon Chaos. There is nothing in his verbage that seems out of line, yet Barkeep is all over the place. Hmmmm.

tanglewood · 07-28-2007, 09:17 PM

If I realised it was a tie I would have broken it, but I missed JHandley's vote for NeonChaos on page 8 in my quick tally. Sorry guys.

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

That's an understatement. I am not quite sure why people are so strong on Neon Chaos. There is nothing in his verbage that seems out of line, yet Barkeep is all over the place. Hmmmm.

I dont understand why they think his non votes are significant. I honestly dont believe a wolf would miss two votes in a row

tanglewood · 07-28-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So this simultaneous thing means that the wolves are unlikely to have killed me since I was raising so much suspicion. Yeah for living another day, I suppose.

They could have sent in a conditional kill, but I don't think there was anyway they would have killed you tonight anyway.

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

That's an understatement. I am not quite sure why people are so strong on Neon Chaos. There is nothing in his verbage that seems out of line, yet Barkeep is all over the place. Hmmmm.

Well I'd point out that Neon will become increasingly hard to kill as time goes on and shows no signs of adding anything to the game.

I'd also point out that last game, I was very firmly in certain places and was very much a wolf. Though I was pretty firmly in certain places the game before and was a villager. But I would say a definite hole in my wolf game that I plan to plug is how firmly in one place I was last game.

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:20 PM

So I guess that the wolves didn't kill anybody tonight? Or cronin is just really slow.

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

So I guess that the wolves didn't kill anybody tonight? Or cronin is just really slow.

Cronin mentioned that his net connection was bad. My guess is he's sending out PMs first and then will post night results.

Gonzo · 07-28-2007, 09:22 PM

Oh great. No-lynch.

Well that's a disaster then.

tanglewood · 07-28-2007, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Antmeister, Daddytorgo, Telle, Render, Lonestargirl all voted barkeep to blow it open while only Cartman and barkeep went a different direction.

The run of votes went

Barkeep
Neon Chaos
Barkeep
Barkeep
Neon Chaos
Barkeep
Barkeep
Neon Chaos
Alan T

So make of that what you will. I don't see that as a wholesale bandwagon, more of a normal momentum shift that is common near deadlines.

Plus, I don't see why you could be suprised at people voting for Barkeep, when you were arguing so strongly in favour of lynching him. "I argued for lynching Barkeep all day to see if I could convince anyone to vote for and I did so they must be wolves!" doesn't exactly make sense.

st.cronin · 07-28-2007, 09:25 PM

pms sent

Lathum has been murdered!

Day 3 has officially begun, deadline 10pm Eastern time Sunday

RendeR · 07-28-2007, 09:33 PM

Is it just me or does her bustier color make it look like she's bare breasted in that outfit?

Lathum · 07-28-2007, 09:33 PM

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:34 PM

No night PM for me.

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:44 PM

Nothing for me either

Gonzo · 07-28-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

The run of votes went

Barkeep
Neon Chaos
Barkeep
Barkeep
Neon Chaos
Barkeep
Barkeep
Neon Chaos
Alan T

So make of that what you will. I don't see that as a wholesale bandwagon, more of a normal momentum shift that is common near deadlines.

Plus, I don't see why you could be suprised at people voting for Barkeep, when you were arguing so strongly in favour of lynching him. "I argued for lynching Barkeep all day to see if I could convince anyone to vote for and I did so they must be wolves!" doesn't exactly make sense.

Well something's fishy about that bandwagon at any rate.

Personally I think we should go full steam ahead and Vote Alan T

He may well have been turned into a wolf by now.

Alan T · 07-28-2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

fuck

Looks like they didn't like you taking my side.

DaddyTorgo · 07-28-2007, 09:46 PM

none for me

guess you were a villegar this time for real though lathum

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Well something's fishy about that bandwagon at any rate.

Personally I think we should go full steam ahead and Vote Alan T

He may well have been turned into a wolf by now.

That is not a valid vote and will not be counted. You did not give a space between the vote and everything else on each side and it is not all in CAPS. Today's fiasco results from our not following the very strict rules. Best it doesn't happen again.

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:51 PM

I agree that I am kind of ticked at Alant after today. But I dont know if i am going to vote for him yet. Hopefully I will be online before 8 central tomorrow to catch up, but I have 5 games to umpire starting at 8:30 am. I will definitely be on in the morning though to see what happens over night

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:52 PM

Just looked over today's posts by Lathum. He didn't comment on anyone today except me and Alan. He thought Alan was good. He didn't like my style of play and thus voted for me.

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I agree that I am kind of ticked at Alant after today. But I dont know if i am going to vote for him yet. Hopefully I will be online before 8 central tomorrow to catch up, but I have 5 games to umpire starting at 8:30 am. I will definitely be on in the morning though to see what happens over night

I'm assuming you know this, but just in case, you do realize unlike last game we're in Day 3, as there are no Nights in this game?

Gonzo · 07-28-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

That is not a valid vote and will not be counted. You did not give a space between the vote and everything else on each side and it is not all in CAPS. Today's fiasco results from our not following the very strict rules. Best it doesn't happen again.

Right.

VOTE ALAN T

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Just looked over today's posts by Lathum. He didn't comment on anyone today except me and Alan. He thought Alan was good. He didn't like my style of play and thus voted for me.

What do you think that means? Personally I think they just killed Lathum because he is known as such a good player. So I dont know if this makes me think we have some professional wolves, or if this means we have some newbie wolves who are afraid of somebody like Lathum

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm assuming you know this, but just in case, you do realize unlike last game we're in Day 3, as there are no Nights in this game?

Yah, I think you just misread what I said. I want to know what happens over night, like while I am asleep, not what happens in the night cycle. I am sure Chief is at work so he will be on after I am asleep, and Tanglewood will be waking up for work shortly, and other people will be crawling in from their Saturday night excursions, so by the time I wake up there should be a lot to catch up on.... That is what I meant.

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 09:57 PM

Antmeister, you have three posts so far this game. And incidentally that is equivalent to how many posts Neon has, and a lot of people were trying to get him lynched. So you better speak up before you are next.

Gonzo · 07-28-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Just looked over today's posts by Lathum. He didn't comment on anyone today except me and Alan. He thought Alan was good. He didn't like my style of play and thus voted for me.

Keep in mind that Lathum might actually in fact have been the Mad Scientist, so we can't 100% rely on voting records.

JHandley · 07-28-2007, 09:59 PM

I was under the impression from the rules that the Mad Scientist was working wtih the wolves?

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 10:00 PM

In the spirit of full disclose I just recieved the following PM from cronin (twice, actually), and since we can, I feel compelled to share the PM:

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I have bad eyes, and its very difficult for me to see votes that are in the middle of a sentence when I'm skimming the thread.

As I explained to him I was not equating strict with bad. Simply strict with strict.

I will also point out that in no time in MY pm did something happen to me that I can't explain

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JHandley

I was under the impression from the rules that the Mad Scientist was working wtih the wolves?

Yes but we don't know whether or not he knows who the wolves are and/or if the wolves know who he is.

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Antmeister, you have three posts so far this game. And incidentally that is equivalent to how many posts Neon has, and a lot of people were trying to get him lynched. So you better speak up before you are next.

I think the problem came more from Neon's lack of voting than posting, but would agree that Ant should speak up.

LoneStarGirl · 07-28-2007, 10:01 PM

I thought the Mad Scientist was a bad guy also.... and I assumed all the bad guys knew one another, which means Lathum couldn't have been the Mad Scientist...and if he was I bet cronin would have told us

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I thought the Mad Scientist was a bad guy also.... and I assumed all the bad guys knew one another, which means Lathum couldn't have been the Mad Scientist...and if he was I bet cronin would have told us

Let's look at the role description one more time:

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Originally Posted by the rules

Mad Scientist - You have found Dr. Frankenstein's old notes, and have begun work on an army of lycanthropes. If lynched, you will turn up as human, but for game purposes you count as a wolf.

I actually bet that we don't find out if the mad scientist dies hence the reason why he shows up human on death but counts for the bad guy figures. Whether he knows the wolves or not is a different question. If he can't convert the wolves, I think it's more likely that he knows who the wolves are, but they don't know who he is.

Barkeep49 · 07-28-2007, 10:06 PM

That is the "begun work on an army of lycanthropes" is in reference to his having created the wolves already. In that scenario I think it's possible, even likely, that he'll know the wolves but they won't know him.

Antmeister · 07-28-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Well I'd point out that Neon will become increasingly hard to kill as time goes on and shows no signs of adding anything to the game.

I'd also point out that last game, I was very firmly in certain places and was very much a wolf. Though I was pretty firmly in certain places the game before and was a villager. But I would say a definite hole in my wolf game that I plan to plug is how firmly in one place I was last game.

You know, after the sequence of events that just occured, I am starting to side with you and AlanT. That last minute barrage does make you think. The fact that someone used something against AlanT makes me wonder if it were some sort of smokescreen to put our eyes on him. And now this anger for AlanT seems a bit odd. Right now, Chief Rum, LSG and Neon Chaos has me wondering about them.

Chief Rum is one of my candidates because he voted the odd man out. Not 100% sure on him, but suspicious.

LSG seems to want to pry the eyes away from Neon Chaos a little too hard. While I didn't understand the focus of his non-voting, I didn't understand why she began to mention that I had the same post count as him, because I might be next. I guess she doesn't realize there are others here with the same and that makes me wonder.

And the only reason why Neon Chaos suddenly became suspicious is that he could have easily changed his vote at the last moment, but I guess he didn't want to look too suspicious, so this barrage of votes for Barkeep came out of nowhere. Hmmmm.

JHandley · 07-28-2007, 10:16 PM

My problem with Neon is that if he gets converted to werewolf, would anyone know? He's checked in, got drunk and used random.org to place a vote on DT. That's it. My poppa always told me, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

I'm starting to wonder about the people who switched from Neon to BK. It seemed all day long that voting for Neon was a great place for the wolves to vote. I wonder if voting for BK to try and bump him off wouldn't be a good strategy for them.

Telle · 07-28-2007, 10:28 PM

Am I the only one (including st cronin appearantly!) that noticed that Neon_Chaos voted in post #318???

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

www.random.org compels me to vote.

VOTE DADDYTORGO

Telle · 07-28-2007, 10:33 PM

Other than JHandley appearantly (didn't see his post above mine before I posted).

st.cronin · 07-28-2007, 10:35 PM

I did overlook that vote, somehow. It wouldn't have changed the outcome.

Telle · 07-28-2007, 10:37 PM

No it wouldn't have.. but people were going on about how he missed two votes, and that's not the case.

DaddyTorgo · 07-28-2007, 10:58 PM

anyone else bothered by the convienence of that vote though? seems like it'd be real easy for a wolf to throwaway a D1 vote on me and blame it on random.org after the bad run of d1's that i've had lately...

Telle · 07-28-2007, 11:02 PM

It was a day 2 vote. He missed the vote on day 1. And in my book missing one vote and then throwing out a random.org vote the next day very early and then not showing up again isn't much better than missing two votes.. but figured I'd point out that he did actually vote on day 2.

DaddyTorgo · 07-28-2007, 11:06 PM

still, using random.org as an excuse seems like a relatively risk-free way for a wolf to try to get an early run going on me, which they would believe would work since i've been offed so early lately.

Schmidty · 07-28-2007, 11:09 PM

Just got back.

Totally lame that we have again not voted. I'm pretty disgusted right now.

Telle · 07-28-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

still, using random.org as an excuse seems like a relatively risk-free way for a wolf to try to get an early run going on me, which they would believe would work since i've been offed so early lately.

I dunno.. maybe you're just getting paranoid since you've been offed early lately

I could definitely see a theory that it's a way for a wolf to hide his vote though.

DaddyTorgo · 07-28-2007, 11:38 PM

we need a damm lynch. This is ridiculous

Telle · 07-28-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

we need a damm lynch. This is ridiculous

Got any suggestions?

Lathum · 07-29-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

What do you think that means? Personally I think they just killed Lathum because he is known as such a good player. So I dont know if this makes me think we have some professional wolves, or if this means we have some newbie wolves who are afraid of somebody like Lathum

aw shucks

path12 · 07-29-2007, 01:43 AM

RendeR, why did you switch your vote?

07-28-2007, 09:25 PM	#462
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	pms sent Lathum has been murdered! Day 3 has officially begun, deadline 10pm Eastern time Sunday __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-28-2007, 09:33 PM	#463
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Is it just me or does her bustier color make it look like she's bare breasted in that outfit? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

07-28-2007, 10:35 PM	#490
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I did overlook that vote, somehow. It wouldn't have changed the outcome. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-29-2007, 01:43 AM	#500
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	RendeR, why did you switch your vote? __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-28-2007, 09:15 PM	#452
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So this simultaneous thing means that the wolves are unlikely to have killed me since I was raising so much suspicion. Yeah for living another day, I suppose.

07-28-2007, 09:17 PM	#454
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	If I realised it was a tie I would have broken it, but I missed JHandley's vote for NeonChaos on page 8 in my quick tally. Sorry guys.

07-28-2007, 09:20 PM	#458
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	So I guess that the wolves didn't kill anybody tonight? Or cronin is just really slow.

07-28-2007, 09:22 PM	#460
Gonzo Mascot Join Date: Jul 2007	Oh great. No-lynch. Well that's a disaster then.

07-28-2007, 09:33 PM	#464
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	fuck

07-28-2007, 09:34 PM	#465
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	No night PM for me.

07-28-2007, 09:44 PM	#466
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Nothing for me either

07-28-2007, 09:46 PM	#469
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	none for me guess you were a villegar this time for real though lathum

07-28-2007, 09:51 PM	#471
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I agree that I am kind of ticked at Alant after today. But I dont know if i am going to vote for him yet. Hopefully I will be online before 8 central tomorrow to catch up, but I have 5 games to umpire starting at 8:30 am. I will definitely be on in the morning though to see what happens over night

07-28-2007, 09:52 PM	#472
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Just looked over today's posts by Lathum. He didn't comment on anyone today except me and Alan. He thought Alan was good. He didn't like my style of play and thus voted for me.

07-28-2007, 09:57 PM	#477
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Antmeister, you have three posts so far this game. And incidentally that is equivalent to how many posts Neon has, and a lot of people were trying to get him lynched. So you better speak up before you are next.

07-28-2007, 09:59 PM	#479
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	I was under the impression from the rules that the Mad Scientist was working wtih the wolves?

07-28-2007, 10:01 PM	#483
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I thought the Mad Scientist was a bad guy also.... and I assumed all the bad guys knew one another, which means Lathum couldn't have been the Mad Scientist...and if he was I bet cronin would have told us

07-28-2007, 10:06 PM	#485
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	That is the "begun work on an army of lycanthropes" is in reference to his having created the wolves already. In that scenario I think it's possible, even likely, that he'll know the wolves but they won't know him.

07-28-2007, 10:16 PM	#487
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	My problem with Neon is that if he gets converted to werewolf, would anyone know? He's checked in, got drunk and used random.org to place a vote on DT. That's it. My poppa always told me, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. I'm starting to wonder about the people who switched from Neon to BK. It seemed all day long that voting for Neon was a great place for the wolves to vote. I wonder if voting for BK to try and bump him off wouldn't be a good strategy for them.

07-28-2007, 10:33 PM	#489
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Other than JHandley appearantly (didn't see his post above mine before I posted).

07-28-2007, 10:37 PM	#491
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	No it wouldn't have.. but people were going on about how he missed two votes, and that's not the case.

07-28-2007, 10:58 PM	#492
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	anyone else bothered by the convienence of that vote though? seems like it'd be real easy for a wolf to throwaway a D1 vote on me and blame it on random.org after the bad run of d1's that i've had lately...

07-28-2007, 11:02 PM	#493
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	It was a day 2 vote. He missed the vote on day 1. And in my book missing one vote and then throwing out a random.org vote the next day very early and then not showing up again isn't much better than missing two votes.. but figured I'd point out that he did actually vote on day 2.

07-28-2007, 11:06 PM	#494
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	still, using random.org as an excuse seems like a relatively risk-free way for a wolf to try to get an early run going on me, which they would believe would work since i've been offed so early lately.

07-28-2007, 11:09 PM	#495
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Just got back. Totally lame that we have again not voted. I'm pretty disgusted right now.

07-28-2007, 11:38 PM	#497
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	we need a damm lynch. This is ridiculous

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