Survivor: Oz Tribal Thread - Page 12

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 07:42 PM

This is a trick to get the seer to come out and say he is the seer, I think.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

This is a trick to get the seer to come out and say he is the seer, I think.

A trick by who? I mean, if he actually is a wolf, it's not really a trick, is it.

st.cronin · 02-08-2007, 07:45 PM

Ok, I'm out for the night. Good luck team. Ballsy play, no matter the outcome, RA. You get props from me.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It doesn't make any sense the other way, either. Why not say you're the seer?

Because I'm not the seer, that's why.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:46 PM

If I say I'm the seer, I have to produce a wolf eventually. Also the real seer can out me.

I'm a wolf.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:47 PM

More importantly, are we leaving our bids as is? I don't think we should, but I don't want to make a unilateral decision.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, I'm out for the night. Good luck team. Ballsy play, no matter the outcome, RA. You get props from me.

Also, this isn't a ballsy play. It's the smart play. I benefit; you benefit.

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 07:50 PM

I would prefer to know who everyone is voting for.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 07:50 PM

Eventually you'll turn on us, right? It's that or lose, right?

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I would prefer to know who everyone is voting for.

I believe ITC and I are voting for Schmidty. st. cronin is unknown.

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Eventually you'll turn on us, right? It's that or lose, right?

I have no additional win outcome in this game.

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 07:52 PM

Then why are you doing this? Do you just like us that much?

Poli · 02-08-2007, 07:53 PM

That doesn't necessarily answer my question.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:53 PM

Also, I'll be on after Survivor and I watch recorded My Name is Earl and the Office. If I live through the tribal council I would like some ideas of whom to scan tonight. Just like Swaggs, I feel as if Blade is a wolf but I didn't scan him initially because he wasn't on right after the volunteer message by BK.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Then why are you doing this? Do you just like us that much?

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Let me drop the bomb on you guys: I am the wolf in the tribe.

I thought about how I might play it out, but I think this is the best way. Sooner or later I'm going to either get caught by the seer or the lynch. Mostly sooner.

Here is my rationale for coming out of the closet:

1. I'm out of the game in a few days anyhow if I don't.
2. I can help you within the game itself. During the night phase I can scan for another wolf. I scanned Lathum the other night. He came clean.
3. Once I find another wolf (like on another tribe) I can PM with them. I can then post that information in our thread, thus giving us a heads-up on other tribal information. For instance, on days like today I'll know their bids. You can be sure that no other wolf will even think of coming out of the closet.
4. I can kill once per night, but I can withhold from doing so (which of course I will for continued existence in the game).

I feel as if I can be a much more valuable asset than an ordinary player in the game. I became a wolf when I volunteered. What do you guys say?

This is why.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 07:54 PM

RA, you haven't sold me.

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 07:55 PM

RaidersArmy, were you scanned the other night?

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

That doesn't necessarily answer my question.

Hmmm...then I'm not sure what you're asking. BK did not tell me that if I eliminated all of the other survivors or got to a 1-1 wolf ratio that I would win. I assume that I must win "Survivor" to win. The difference is that I am a wolf and can kill at night and PM freely with other wolves once I scan them to see if they're wolves.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

RaidersArmy, were you scanned the other night?

Not that I know of. If I was scanned by the seer I don't know. I assume I wasn't scanned by another wolf because I have had no PM from them.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

RA, you haven't sold me.

Well, here's the other thing to your quitting last night. It would've saved me because I believe that I would've been on the hook tonight (and I believe I am...before I revealed myself). I tried to keep you in the game with no feelings for the tribal council at all.

I posted a message saying as such. Now, the reason why I posted that was so you wouldn't think that after I'm revealed as a wolf I was trying to play with your head.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:00 PM

Okay...Survivor coming on. I'll talk to you guys later.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:01 PM

Also, think about changing bids. cronin's bids won't win it for us.

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:02 PM

RA, dang you.

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 08:08 PM

I have no clue. I think if we can get rid of a wolf, we should do so.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:17 PM

Back in for a sec. DVR messed up and we're watching Earl right now and recording Survivor.

I agree that if you can get rid of a wolf, do it...but not in this case. Wouldn't you want me to feed a wolf false information about you guys? Wouldn't you like the ability to find out what's going on in the other tribes? This only makes sense!

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:24 PM

RA i have not voted yet, but now im very twisted in my decisons!!!!

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:27 PM

It's a hard sell for me. I really believe GE or Schmidty would have been gone today, and he could have hid under the radar if he wanted.

I'm pondering, but I just don't see it working out for us in the end.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:28 PM

same here AE

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:29 PM

i see the short-term benift, but not the long-term AT ALL

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 08:29 PM

AE and ITC, who are you two voting for?

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

It's a hard sell for me. I really believe GE or Schmidty would have been gone today, and he could have hid under the radar if he wanted.

I'm pondering, but I just don't see it working out for us in the end.

Well, I realize there's no way for you to know I'm telling the truth. All I can say is that I think it can benefit our team. No one else will think of revealing themselves as a wolf...the reason why I did was for the larger picture. I really can't see how me being a wolf would be a detriment to our team.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:30 PM

but i think that if RA is telling the truth we keep a secert about the volunteers being wolves

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:31 PM

but who would lie about being a wolf??? that could be suicide with no benifts

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

AE and ITC, who are you two voting for?

not sure, its still the same two for me Schmditty or RA

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:33 PM

Raiders, I just don't know how I could trust you from not cutting me down at one point later in the game just by being a wolf.

I'd love the other benefits of you staying alive, but in the end I'd rather lose the wolf than possibly losing a seer.

Raiders, right now my vote is you.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:33 PM

what about yo GE?

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 08:37 PM

I plan on voting for RA.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:39 PM

What's the use of a seer if I tell you that I'm a wolf???

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:39 PM

I can do everything a seer can do plus more! You guys are making a big mistake.

Raiders Army · 02-08-2007, 08:41 PM

Last post before the deadline: I think that unless we change our bid, we'll lose the challenge...

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:43 PM

RA, thanks for the honesty. I understand why you did what you did, well sort of.

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 08:43 PM

Maybe we could concentrate more on the bid if you did not drop a bomb on us.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:47 PM

ARGGHHHHH

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:48 PM

whats our bid???

Poli · 02-08-2007, 08:50 PM

At this point, there's no telling what our bid is.

GoldenEagle · 02-08-2007, 08:53 PM

I know we are not going to win that.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 08:55 PM

send in one guys, 5 mins till

Poli · 02-08-2007, 09:00 PM

Sent.

Barkeep49 · 02-08-2007, 09:19 PM

I have two submissions from this tribe: ardent's and cronin's. I need to know which I should go with. As it's a tribal submission and there has been no discussion of ardent's bid I am uncomfortable just substituting it.

Barkeep49 · 02-08-2007, 09:20 PM

Let me go tally the votes.

ImTheCrew · 02-08-2007, 09:24 PM

go with ae's

02-08-2007, 07:42 PM	#551
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	This is a trick to get the seer to come out and say he is the seer, I think. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 07:45 PM	#553
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ok, I'm out for the night. Good luck team. Ballsy play, no matter the outcome, RA. You get props from me. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-08-2007, 07:50 PM	#558
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I would prefer to know who everyone is voting for. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 07:50 PM	#559
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Eventually you'll turn on us, right? It's that or lose, right? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 07:52 PM	#561
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Then why are you doing this? Do you just like us that much? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 07:46 PM	#555
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	If I say I'm the seer, I have to produce a wolf eventually. Also the real seer can out me. I'm a wolf.

02-08-2007, 07:47 PM	#556
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	More importantly, are we leaving our bids as is? I don't think we should, but I don't want to make a unilateral decision.

02-08-2007, 07:53 PM	#562
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	That doesn't necessarily answer my question. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 07:53 PM	#563
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Also, I'll be on after Survivor and I watch recorded My Name is Earl and the Office. If I live through the tribal council I would like some ideas of whom to scan tonight. Just like Swaggs, I feel as if Blade is a wolf but I didn't scan him initially because he wasn't on right after the volunteer message by BK.

02-08-2007, 07:54 PM	#565
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	RA, you haven't sold me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 07:55 PM	#566
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	RaidersArmy, were you scanned the other night? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 08:00 PM	#570
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Okay...Survivor coming on. I'll talk to you guys later.

02-08-2007, 08:01 PM	#571
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Also, think about changing bids. cronin's bids won't win it for us.

02-08-2007, 08:02 PM	#572
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	RA, dang you. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 08:08 PM	#573
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I have no clue. I think if we can get rid of a wolf, we should do so. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 08:17 PM	#574
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Back in for a sec. DVR messed up and we're watching Earl right now and recording Survivor. I agree that if you can get rid of a wolf, do it...but not in this case. Wouldn't you want me to feed a wolf false information about you guys? Wouldn't you like the ability to find out what's going on in the other tribes? This only makes sense!

02-08-2007, 08:24 PM	#575
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	RA i have not voted yet, but now im very twisted in my decisons!!!!

02-08-2007, 08:27 PM	#576
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	It's a hard sell for me. I really believe GE or Schmidty would have been gone today, and he could have hid under the radar if he wanted. I'm pondering, but I just don't see it working out for us in the end. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 08:28 PM	#577
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	same here AE

02-08-2007, 08:29 PM	#578
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i see the short-term benift, but not the long-term AT ALL

02-08-2007, 08:29 PM	#579
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	AE and ITC, who are you two voting for? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 08:30 PM	#581
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	but i think that if RA is telling the truth we keep a secert about the volunteers being wolves

02-08-2007, 08:31 PM	#582
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	but who would lie about being a wolf??? that could be suicide with no benifts

02-08-2007, 08:33 PM	#584
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Raiders, I just don't know how I could trust you from not cutting me down at one point later in the game just by being a wolf. I'd love the other benefits of you staying alive, but in the end I'd rather lose the wolf than possibly losing a seer. Raiders, right now my vote is you. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 08:33 PM	#585
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	what about yo GE?

02-08-2007, 08:37 PM	#586
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I plan on voting for RA. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 08:39 PM	#587
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	What's the use of a seer if I tell you that I'm a wolf???

02-08-2007, 08:39 PM	#588
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I can do everything a seer can do plus more! You guys are making a big mistake.

02-08-2007, 08:41 PM	#589
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Last post before the deadline: I think that unless we change our bid, we'll lose the challenge...

02-08-2007, 08:43 PM	#590
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	RA, thanks for the honesty. I understand why you did what you did, well sort of. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 08:43 PM	#591
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Maybe we could concentrate more on the bid if you did not drop a bomb on us. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

02-08-2007, 08:47 PM	#592
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	ARGGHHHHH

02-08-2007, 08:48 PM	#593
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	whats our bid???

02-08-2007, 08:50 PM	#594
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	At this point, there's no telling what our bid is. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

02-08-2007, 08:53 PM	#595
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I know we are not going to win that. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014