WW LXXXVII Terror at the University :Game over, Wolves win!

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE NIGHTFALL

[jeheinz72]

So all 4 of us are on RPI?

Yeah, might as well

Vote Nightfall

[Lathum]

OK, I am going to honor nightfall

You all beat RPIFan to death as he sits silently and takes it. He was a student

[Lathum]

You wake up to find Abe murdered. He was a student

[jeheinz72]

Vote DaddyTorgo

[Lathum]

OK< sorry for the hasty posts, but I have to run.

I would like to wrap this up today, but I wont sacrifise the integrity of the game.

As long as everyone has a chance to discuss/ cast a vote I will run the last day today, otherwise we'll figure out a solutioun.

We got unlucky with the combination of the holiday weekend and peoples personal schedules.

[jeheinz72]

Chief, *just* in case you haven't figured it out. I'm the janitor.

[Hannibal Lecter]

Fake reveal!!!!!

[jeheinz72]

Well, I mean, it's over.

I'm the janitor, CR votes with me lynching DT, the final villager.

We can wait, sure, but no need.

I mean DT can somehow try to get me lynched I suppose, but all that does is mean he's dead at night instead of lynched today.

Since there is a 0% chance I'm voting for Rum and presumably a 0% chance Rum is voting for himself, there's no way for this to be anything other than a wolf win.

[EagleFan]

Go Wolves!!!

[Lathum]

Valid point by Heinze.

CR indicated he was gonna vote DT. DT is lynched and Heinze expounds his loyalty to CR.

Game over, wolves win.

Thanks for playing everyone, it was a fun game to run, lets hope we get another on going soon.

[Abe Sargent]

Thanks all!!!

[Abe Sargent]

I had fun

[EagleFan]

Thanks Lathum.


W-O-L-V-E-S Wolves!!!!




and to: CR and jeheinz...

[hoopsguy]

Day 1 was nuts.

Chief - votes early for the bodyguard
Heinz - votes early on wolf, sticks with it hard
Hoops - votes fairly late for another wolf
Eagle - send in order to kill Janitor
Danny - "blocks" wolf attack on Janitor

Had Jackal not come forward as the seer, we were going to go after Heinz again thinking he was the seer. Obviously we did not think this anymore after Jackal busted me.

Nice work by Chief, and especially Heinz, taking it down over the last couple of days.

I think not taking out RPI a couple of days ago was the point where this game was lost. There were assumptions made about him that were rarely challenged in the thread and they turned out to be bad assumptions.

It sucks to have a game decided, in no small part, based on inactivity by a player. Otherwise, I thought this was a pretty entertaining game and a nice kick-off to 2009 for our forum.

[Hannibal Lecter]

I still wanna know what was up with RPI!!!!!!

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

I still wanna know what was up with RPI!!!!!!

Not sure. I saw him posting in another forum earlier today, so I assume everything is OK with him.

[Hannibal Lecter]

I meant the Pm indicating that he was bad...... I mean even jackyl confirmed it....

[EagleFan]

I thought the RPI thing was going to turn out to be a ploy by him (as the janitor) and maybe he was going to show up late to stir things u. Not sure what happened with him. Just hope all is okay with him.

[jeff061]

People should listen to me more. Even if I am an ass sometimes .

[jeff061]

Very good game Heinz, You to Rummy, just couldnt get the following.

[EagleFan]

Lathum,

What would have happened if I had "gone rogue" and put the attack order in on Danny day one with him protecting me?

[jeff061]

Anyone know who you were Heinz?

[jeheinz72]

Woo hoo!

Good game folks, I had a lot of fun. I think I'm going to hang my hat on this one for awhile.

I said it to him in PM, but sorry for having to take you down EF. I figured I had to do it to get trust later in the game.

I still will never figure out why you guys didn't want to lynch RPI. Hell, if you did, $5 says you start putting two and two together that I wasn't 100% on the level.

As far RPI, I'll never know why he said that (it's legit too). Here I thought he was the Seer (I was going to start tipping off the wolves somehow in-thread) and then Jackal comes out as Seer and I was all kinds of confused.

I'd be curious as to win CR figured out that I was the janitor. Really any time he was a candidate, I pushed pretty hard whatever other direction I could.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Anyone know who you were Heinz?

Overtly? No. I figure Rum had to have picked up on it probably around Day 5 or so though.

[jeff061]

Still not sure what lynching RPI would have accomplished.

In any case he passivley played into why I locked in on Rum, but what role he played was irrelevant.

[jeheinz72]

Well he gave me an uncertainty to play in and out of. I think throughout the game I crucified people for any spectrum of stance on how RPI should be handled. CR was good for wanting to lynch him. DT was good for not wanting to lynch him for awhile, then DT was bad for that same thing later on.

If it was just over with it takes all that out of the equation

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Lathum,

What would have happened if I had "gone rogue" and put the attack order in on Danny day one with him protecting me?

it would have been an epic battle the outcome of which would be determined by forces beyond our understanding ( random.org)

[jeff061]

If I play another game Heinz is getting an asterisk with me . Even as an evil bastard you put some good ideas out there I'm taking with me.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

CR was good for wanting to lynch him.

Heh, and that's exactly why I thought he was bad. Go figure.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by jeff061

If I play another game Heinz is getting an asterisk with me . Even as an evil bastard you put some good ideas out there I'm taking with me.

Hey, you can't blame me Jeff. It says I'm a liar right in my sig.

That's like putting a Surgeon General's warning on a post.

"BELIEVING ANYTHING THIS POSTER SAYS MAY BE DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH"

[jeff061]

I actually was thinking CR may not be guilty after I was killed. Thought the wolf may orchestrate a debate on whether or not I was killed to throw me off Chief's track, thus incriminating him and not the real wolf.

[Lathum]

The way the roommates worked out with the roles was crazy, and it was completely random.

[EagleFan]

How did you like the "traitor" role jeheinz? Had that role one time and absolutely loved it. It's great being able to play with people's minds knowing that your getting lynched actually helps the numbers of the team you are on. It frees your play up a lot.

[Lathum]

FROM AN EMAIL FROM CHIER RUM
Wow, people are probably freakin' out right now, with Jeff annd Telle going "I knew it! I knew it!"

I thought this was funny

[jeff061]

Yep, that bastard. I was pretty damn sure it was Tell or Chief day three and on, leaning towards Rum.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

How did you like the "traitor" role jeheinz? Had that role one time and absolutely loved it. It's great being able to play with people's minds knowing that your getting lynched actually helps the numbers of the team you are on. It frees your play up a lot.

Yeah, I really liked it. It was my first time with it. I loved knowing all the info (well, minus who had the good roles) and being able to set things up, all really without the worry of being scanned as bad.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Yep, that bastard. I was pretty damn sure it was Tell or Chief day three and on, leaning towards Rum.

Yeah I kept trying to ignore you whenever you posted that.

If Rum started leading in votes I was going to make some sort of "accidental" goof in a post. Like slip that I was the wolf somehow.

[jeff061]

Ha, that would have been great.

[jeheinz72]

I was thinking about it yesterday, since I could tell DT was leaning towards CR. Then I figured you or Abe would flip to CR.

So instead I tried flipping myself to CR then back to paint someone as bad. Lathum didn't much like that move, he PM'd me wondering if I'd lost my mind.

[DaddyTorgo]

*sigh*

guess i should have pushed harder at Chief Rum earlier.

Still wanted to lynch him there at the end.

Started to get that vibe off Heinze at the end, but too late to do anything with it.

I still maintain that the total lack of RPI-fan at all really fucked us up as villagers in this game, and in hindsight we should have lynched him earlier.

blah

[jeff061]

Last few games of these I've played there's been someone AWOL fucking things, once it was a wolf. I almost look at it as part of the game unfortunately. But yeah it kind of sucked.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

*sigh*

guess i should have pushed harder at Chief Rum earlier.

Still wanted to lynch him there at the end.

Started to get that vibe off Heinze at the end, but too late to do anything with it.

I still maintain that the total lack of RPI-fan at all really fucked us up as villagers in this game, and in hindsight we should have lynched him earlier.

blah

With that said you did get two wolves handed to you pretty much right from the start.

I have to say one of the best moments of the game was the momentary mispost by Lathum identifying Jackal as the janitor. That created a major WTF moment.

[DaddyTorgo]

*shrug*

[EagleFan]

dola: Oh, and the near meltdown after hoops got revealed and it almost looked like a potential push to keep him around for a day just out of fear that he was the brutal. That was fun too.

[DaddyTorgo]

whatever...i deserve a chunk of the blame - i had my suspiscions about CR and should have pushed harder on him earlier. Also should have looked harder at heinze - by the time i realized there was something fishy there (last night or whatever) it was too late to get anything done about it.

[EagleFan]

Good game all. Hope to be able to play in the next one but probably can't if it starts next week.

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

dola: Oh, and the near meltdown after hoops got revealed and it almost looked like a potential push to keep him around for a day just out of fear that he was the brutal. That was fun too.

Still think that was the right move . If he was protected by Danny the worst that could happen is we get another seer view or he gets killed by a roomate incriminating them.

Still, I could see it being funny since it was all for naught .

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by jeff061

People should listen to me more. Even if I am an ass sometimes .

Pretty much agree with the first half of this statement. I was mildly surprised you were not killed a day earlier.

Reading along, it seemed like you got a little bit derailed when arguing with Heinz about RPI, when in fact that that would have been the one time it would have been good to listen to the wolves.

[jeff061]

On the flipside if Hoops had argued even the slightest bit I'd be all for lynching that hairy bastard.