Official College Football Week 11 thread

[cartman]

We might have the greatest slate of Thursday games in college history this week. Here are the matchups of Top 25 teams this weekend:

Oregon at Stanford (Thursday)
Oklahoma at Baylor (Thursday)
LSU at Alabama

[MacroGuru]

Oh hell...you can't forget

BYU @ Wisconsin!

Can't wait for this game! It is now time to see if the Cougars are up for this game.

in the next couple of weeks we are

@Wisconsin
Idaho State
@Notre Dame
@ Nevada

Nice final stretch for us...If we can pul 3 wins out of this one we will be quite happy finishing 9-3 with our toughest schedule in school history. Although I hate the Virginia loss right now...

[Butter]

So, how far does Oregon fall if they lose? 5th? 6th?

[Chief Rum]

UCLA @ Arizona.

This is a very key game for the Bruins. UCLA historically plays very poorly in Tuscon, and the Wildcats look like a sneaky good team, if not great.

UCLA has also not been playing all too well of late. This one opened as a pick-em.

[mauchow]

Yep. Should be a fun one!!! Trying to see if I can get cheap tickets.

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Oh hell...you can't forget

BYU @ Wisconsin!

Can't wait for this game! It is now time to see if the Cougars are up for this game.

in the next couple of weeks we are

@Wisconsin
Idaho State
@Notre Dame
@ Nevada

Nice final stretch for us...If we can pul 3 wins out of this one we will be quite happy finishing 9-3 with our toughest schedule in school history. Although I hate the Virginia loss right now...

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Yep. Should be a fun one!!! Trying to see if I can get cheap tickets.

I am interested to see how travel to Wisconsin. Our fan base usually travels well. If I could have afforded it this season, I would have wanted to travel for this game, the ND game and out to Utah for Texas and GT...

[tarcone]

I cant believe you missed THE game of the week. Iowas travels to Purdue. I read on Hawkeyenation that tickets could be had for $1.25. Yes the decimal point is in the right spot.

A win here gets Iowa bowl eligible.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

So, how far does Oregon fall if they lose? 5th? 6th?

6th if Baylor wins, 5th if Baylor loses.

They'd basically become this week's Stanford, the highest ranked 1-loss team.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

So, how far does Oregon fall if they lose? 5th? 6th?

Too far. This isn't the year to get to the title game with a loss.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

6th if Baylor wins, 5th if Baylor loses.

They'd basically become this week's Stanford, the highest ranked 1-loss team.

Well, presumably they'd become the 2nd highest ranked 1-loss team after Stanford... although voters have gotten that wrong in the past.

[Matthean]

Nebraska @ Michigan

Only of interest to see who can finish second in the division although Minnesota is lurking. It's really a game of two teams that could be good but are far too flawed to be so. The upside is the game is at home for Michigan. The downside is how much pride they have left after that beat down.

I fully expect LSU vs. 'Bama to be another bloodbath.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

Well, presumably they'd become the 2nd highest ranked 1-loss team after Stanford

Yeah, that's what I meant. Not what I said (looking back at it), but it's what I meant

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Nebraska @ Michigan

Only of interest to see who can finish second in the division although Minnesota is lurking. It's really a game of two teams that could be good but are far too flawed to be so. The upside is the game is at home for Michigan. The downside is how much pride they have left after that beat down.

I fully expect LSU vs. 'Bama to be another bloodbath.

I thought so too, but if Nebraska wins out, they take the division.

[cartman]

Steve Patterson, not Oliver Luck, is going to be the next AD at Texas.

http://www.utexas.edu/news/2013/11/0...etic-director/

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I thought so too, but if Nebraska wins out, they take the division.

I don't see them winning out. State's D is good enough to handle Nebraska's offense, and Nebraska's D is still terrible. I know it is at home but still.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

I am interested to see how travel to Wisconsin. Our fan base usually travels well. If I could have afforded it this season, I would have wanted to travel for this game, the ND game and out to Utah for Texas and GT...

2014 schedules just released. BYU in Austin on Sept. 6th, 2014. The Salt Lick awaits.

Then Bug and CR, a week later Texas plays UCLA at AT&T Stadium.

[MacroGuru]

Originally Posted by cartman

2014 schedules just released. BYU in Austin on Sept. 6th, 2014. The Salt Lick awaits.

Then Bug and CR, a week later Texas plays UCLA at AT&T Stadium.

Well, guess I better get to saving!

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by cartman

Steve Patterson, not Oliver Luck, is going to be the next AD at Texas.

http://www.utexas.edu/news/2013/11/0...etic-director/

Obviously I'm asking a hypothetical question here, but if Mack Brown is gone after this year, how open do you think Texas fans would be to Todd Graham?

I postulated a few weeks ago on another board - before I knew Patterson was a candidate for the AD job at Texas - that Graham might be a guy that could end up a strong candidate for Texas given his Texas roots, his history of recruiting in the region, his ease with media intrusion (ASU is one of two programs getting the behind-the-scenes treatment from the P12 Network this year) and his success in various spots.

I admit he wouldn't be one of the first names most Texas fans would think of, but I see a lot of reasons why he might emerge as a strong candidate should the job open up.

[HomerSimpson98]

Todd Graham - hahahahahaaha. hahahahaha

I sure hope so!!!!

[Umbrella]

The ASU beat writer tweeted as part of the agreement that Patterson can't hire anyone from ASU. I have no idea how long that lasts though.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by cartman

2014 schedules just released. BYU in Austin on Sept. 6th, 2014. The Salt Lick awaits.

Then Bug and CR, a week later Texas plays UCLA at AT&T Stadium.

Yup, that one has been circled on the calendar for abit now. I have even given thought to making the trip out there for the game.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Umbrella

The ASU beat writer tweeted as part of the agreement that Patterson can't hire anyone from ASU. I have no idea how long that lasts though.

I think that might have been a promise for Texas.

What happens if Graham quits ASU?

[General Mike]

Tuesday Night MACtion anyone?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by cartman

Steve Patterson, not Oliver Luck, is going to be the next AD at Texas.

http://www.utexas.edu/news/2013/11/0...etic-director/

Which means Rich Rod isn't coming back to Morgantown anytime soon.

[tarcone]

Iowa got a commitment from 4* RB Markel Smith out of Vianny HS in St Louis. Kid ran for 540 yards and 7 TDs against an opponent this season.

[Umbrella]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think that might have been a promise for Texas.

What happens if Graham quits ASU?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think if he leaves to take another job, part of his contract stipulates that the other school has a big payout to make. Granted, for Texas, it would be chump change.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by General Mike

Tuesday Night MACtion anyone?

Despite being a battle for MAC East supremacy, I don't recommend watching unless you want to scout Khalil Mack. Next wednesday's Ball St @ Northern Illinois game should be good.

[cartman]

Horrendous call in the Ohio-Buffalo game last night. This was ruled a safety:



Intentional grounding calls are not reviewable, so the play stood.

[Chief Rum]

I don't get it. How could that be ruled a safety? He doesn't even have the ball when he goes into the end zone.

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by cartman

Horrendous call in the Ohio-Buffalo game last night. This was ruled a safety:



Intentional grounding calls are not reviewable, so the play stood.

I'm bored at work so I will amuse myself (and hopefully inform you all) and break down the play.

Not to make excuses for the (incorrect) call, but that's a tough one for the referee to make. Intentional Grounding is the only call where the official that actually knows what happens is not the one who drops the flag. The wing official (L or H) comes in to tell the R about the call and R drops the flag at the spot.

The referee lost his cushion and probably wasn't thinking of the potential of it being grounding however, his L or H should help him with it. The QB is the R's key and he is under major duress, which brings into play the potential for a roughing the passer. Watching this play the R seems to have a oh sh*t moment with being run over and worrying about the QB being hit (in the head by #45) and totally loses the spot.

The L is responsible for spots on sacks and unless there is trips formation, his key is the tackle therefore he should already be looking in the backfield. So what should have happened was the L who signalled that the pass did not cross the LOS (and/or no WR in the area) should have at least talked to the Referee as to where he thought the spot of the foul was located.

In the end it was a breakdown of crew communication, however, the Referee will talk the brunt of this call because it was "his call".

[digamma]

I don't understand why this isn't a review situation. We review to see if a player has crossed the line of scrimmage before throwing the ball. We review to see if a spot is correct or whether a player has crossed the goal line. Why is this play not reviewable?

[Matthean]

[tarcone]

Im surprised there werent more cheap shots in that video.

[Matthean]

Brady Hoke can fix Michigan Wolverines - ESPN

Rather spot on. Lewan might not even make All-Big Ten at this point. I know the Big Ten network left him off their list of all-conference guys at the halfway point. Gardner has talent, but I would expect more out of a guy who's a junior.

[Galaxy]

Originally Posted by digamma

I don't understand why this isn't a review situation. We review to see if a player has crossed the line of scrimmage before throwing the ball. We review to see if a spot is correct or whether a player has crossed the goal line. Why is this play not reviewable?

Maybe because he they thought he threw it away to avoid the safety?

[digamma]

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Maybe because he they thought he threw it away to avoid the safety?

That's not the rule.

[Balldog]

A lot of confidence in Hoke considering he only had 3 winning seasons in his 8 years of head coaching and not even winning a conference championship before coming to Michigan.

Hoke has done a good job of restoring the brand but on the field leaves a lot to be desired.

[Butter]

If Jason Whitlock is 100% behind Brady Hoke, then I am 110% behind him.

That said, I fully expect Michigan to somehow put it all together and make the OSU game a fight. But we'll see.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by cartman

We might have the greatest slate of Thursday games in college history this week. Here are the matchups of Top 25 teams this weekend:

Oregon at Stanford (Thursday)
Oklahoma at Baylor (Thursday)
LSU at Alabama

Indeed. I wish they would have Thursday night games like this more often. Wonder if Stanford can give Oregon fits again this year. It wouldnt seem so on paper but last year it felt the same way.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Oh hell...you can't forget

BYU @ Wisconsin!

Can't wait for this game! It is now time to see if the Cougars are up for this game.

in the next couple of weeks we are

@Wisconsin
Idaho State
@Notre Dame
@ Nevada

Nice final stretch for us...If we can pul 3 wins out of this one we will be quite happy finishing 9-3 with our toughest schedule in school history. Although I hate the Virginia loss right now...

This is an interesting game. Why was is scheduled for now? Id like to see BYU win but that atmosphere in Madison is hard to overcome.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

UCLA @ Arizona.

This is a very key game for the Bruins. UCLA historically plays very poorly in Tuscon, and the Wildcats look like a sneaky good team, if not great.

UCLA has also not been playing all too well of late. This one opened as a pick-em.

UCLA matches up well with them Id think. Carey is a stud but the UCLA defense is fast so I guess if mostly falls on UCLA moving the ball on the Arizona defense which I think favors UCLA.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Obviously I'm asking a hypothetical question here, but if Mack Brown is gone after this year, how open do you think Texas fans would be to Todd Graham?

I postulated a few weeks ago on another board - before I knew Patterson was a candidate for the AD job at Texas - that Graham might be a guy that could end up a strong candidate for Texas given his Texas roots, his history of recruiting in the region, his ease with media intrusion (ASU is one of two programs getting the behind-the-scenes treatment from the P12 Network this year) and his success in various spots.

I admit he wouldn't be one of the first names most Texas fans would think of, but I see a lot of reasons why he might emerge as a strong candidate should the job open up.

I think Texas would not accept a Graham hiring at all. Texas is a program that gets pretty much any coach they want and I dont see Graham as being that guy.

[gstelmack]

Uh oh, Nick Saban with the "totally committed to Alabama" quote. Looks like he's gone, probably to Texas?

[MacroGuru]

Hey Wisconsin guys,

I am hearing conflicting reports of your WR and LB that are injured. I know the LB is probably going to play but is not 100%, what about Abberderis, is he going to play and is he 100%?

Right now we have our starting FS and SS both coming back from getting knocked out in the Boise State game, but they have cleared all protocols and should be ready to go. We lost one of our starting ILB to a knee injury.

Offensively, we lost JD Falsev due to an accident at a water park on a team outing during the bye week. He broke his hand as he slipped and fell. Other than that, we are healthy across the board there.

I am amped up about this game. It's probably one of BYU's biggest road games in a while (The last I feel was OU @ Jerry's world in 09)

[cartman]

Close your eyes for a moment, and imagine what this thread would look like if it wasn't Texas that the Saban rumor was connected to, but rather another school, one not from the state of Texas, and once a member of the Big 12.

[HomerSimpson98]

Better yet, what if the rumors were PINKEL going to Texas and not Saban?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Better yet, what if the rumors were PINKEL going to Texas and not Saban?

Damn, you let the cat out of the bag. My sources tell me that he is really the only coach on the Longhorns radar.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

Uh oh, Nick Saban with the "totally committed to Alabama" quote. Looks like he's gone, probably to Texas?

Why move on to a downgrade of a position?

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Why move on to a downgrade of a position?

Alabama is no slouch of a program but when he came in it had a few down years. Texas on the other hand is the right in the heart of the largest talent pool in the nation. Personally, what I think Saban could do at Texas would be unfair.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Why move on to a downgrade of a position?

Because people stop appreciating you and have unrealistically high expectations after your 3rd national championship? Why not go be a savior and win a title at a 3rd school? I think we can all agree that if Saban goes to Texas it's a question of how long until he's in his first title game, not whether he can make it.