Frist look at the new $20 bills

JeeberD · 05-13-2003, 05:03 PM

I stole the image from Cam's website, and lord knows who he stole it from, but there it is.

Our money's starting to look more European every time we redesign...

Anrhydeddu · 05-13-2003, 05:06 PM

Let me get this straight. The Feds, in their infinite wisdom, spent billions of dollars putting out all new currency to thwart (that's a funny word, thwart) counterfiting but instead, counterfiting goes up 40%?

Cards4ever · 05-13-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
Let me get this straight. The Feds, in their infinite wisdom, spent billions of dollars putting out all new currency to thwart (that's a funny word, thwart) counterfiting but instead, counterfiting goes up 40%?

Wouldn't you agree that as the government's technology gets better, so does the counterfeiters?

Fritz · 05-13-2003, 05:29 PM

coins are hard to counterfeit

McSweeny · 05-13-2003, 05:41 PM

now where'd i put that $20 coin?

Franklinnoble · 05-13-2003, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Fritz
coins are hard to counterfeit

Good point. I'd like to see a greater variety of US currency in circulation as coins.

Buzzbee · 05-13-2003, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
Let me get this straight. The Feds, in their infinite wisdom, spent billions of dollars putting out all new currency to thwart (that's a funny word, thwart) counterfiting but instead, counterfiting goes up 40%?

Hmmm. Did counterfeiting go up 40%? Or did we catch more counterfeiters because of the safeguards? You decide.

Fritz · 05-13-2003, 06:07 PM

all this stuff they do to coins does not matter becaus the average idiot (myslef included) will take nearly anything that looks like money. The new bills mean the way you distribute the couterfeits have to change.

Also, I think the rise is counterfeiting has little to do with the money we use. I think it has a lot to do with digital technology and affordable quaity printing.

mrskippy · 05-13-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Good point. I'd like to see a greater variety of US currency in circulation as coins.

I think it's sad that the US never has had success with a $1 coin. You think that people could look and say ... oh its gold ... that's a $1, not 25 cents.

JeeberD · 05-13-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Fritz
coins are hard to counterfeit

Coins are the devil...

Franklinnoble · 05-13-2003, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by JeeberD
Coins are the devil...

Well... aside from my first wife, I've never seen a very good counterfeit satan.

Craptacular · 05-13-2003, 06:23 PM

Did you know that if Bill Gates cashed in his net worth and took it all in pennies, the load would be heavier than the Great Pyramid of Egypt?

McSweeny · 05-13-2003, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Craptacular
Did you know that if Bill Gates cashed in his net worth and took it all in pennies, the load would be heavier than the Great Pyramid of Egypt?

bah! imagine if he went for rupies or ruples or something like that

cthomer5000 · 05-13-2003, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
Let me get this straight. The Feds, in their infinite wisdom, spent billions of dollars putting out all new currency to thwart (that's a funny word, thwart) counterfiting but instead, counterfiting goes up 40%?

I think i read that "digital" counterfiting went up 40%. To me it sounded like a certain variety of counterfeiting had increased, and the number was abused in a few articles.

And I can't wait until they stop printing the 1 dollar bill. Watch how fast the $1 coin catches on then.

clintl · 05-13-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by mrskippy
I think it's sad that the US never has had success with a $1 coin. You think that people could look and say ... oh its gold ... that's a $1, not 25 cents.

It would probably be more successful if the introduced the coins and stopped printing the bills at the same time.

Logan · 05-13-2003, 07:20 PM

Coins are a waste. No one wants to carry them.

McSweeny · 05-13-2003, 07:21 PM

well if they'd make some coins that are light and fold nicely into my wallet i wouldn't mind carrying them

Airhog · 05-13-2003, 07:36 PM

Imagine going to the strip club without paper money, you'd have to wear suspenders to keep your pants up!

tucker342 · 05-13-2003, 07:44 PM

Coins suck ass, especially pennies

ACStrider · 05-13-2003, 07:44 PM

I have an Estonian coin that has been phased out of circulation. As of now, it's worth about a third of a penny. It's a cute little thing.

Easy Mac · 05-13-2003, 08:15 PM

I think there would be a lot of lawsuits in strip clubs if we only had coins instead of ones. "hmmm, now let me put that coin in your slot..." I mean, its not like they could keep it in their g-strings.

ColtCrazy · 05-13-2003, 08:26 PM

It does surprise me we haven't gone to $1 coins. They worry people won't except them, but just do what some European countries did...make them and stop circulatiing the notes. Don't give people a choice and they'll get over it. I think coins would be easier, I always prefer them when I travel. Better than trying to stuff a bunch of crumpled ones in your wallet.

As far as the $20 goes, it is funny that it was just changed within the last few years and they are changing it again. The more colorful bills with the water marks and all will help reduce counterfeiting. We do have some of the most boring looking money, not that it matters really.

JonInMiddleGA · 05-13-2003, 08:28 PM

FWIW, I was always pretty down on the notion of $1 & $2 coins. That's was past tense, following several days in Canada a few years ago. Actually using the coins for a few days pretty much turned me into a big fan of 'em, a heckuva lot easier than having to dig out my wallet, search for singles, etc, etc.

kcchief19 · 05-13-2003, 11:24 PM

Of course, counterfeiting is so successful and popular because people are so stupid. I did a story once in my journalism days on counterfeiting and the types of money people passed that clerks accepted: $3 bills, money with the wrong president on them, money printed on horrible paper, money printed in wrong colors, money with words misspelled. The list goes on.

CamEdwards · 05-13-2003, 11:34 PM

hmmm... maybe if teachers would teach kids stuff like "who was Benjamin Franklin" they might grow up to be adults who recognize a $100.

sorry... threadjack of my own. I'll go back to being a right-wing annoyance in other threads.

BTW, the new $20's look like they've been drenched in cat pee. Not good times.

B & B · 05-13-2003, 11:43 PM

Anyone notice that with the disproportionate head, it looks as if Andrew Jackson is sitting on top of a Hawaiian volcano?

mckerney · 05-13-2003, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by McSweeny
well if they'd make some coins that are light and fold nicely into my wallet i wouldn't mind carrying them

Yeah, that's a great idea. Hey! We could make those coins out of paper!

Craptacular · 05-14-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
I think there would be a lot of lawsuits in strip clubs if we only had coins instead of ones. "hmmm, now let me put that coin in your slot..." I mean, its not like they could keep it in their g-strings.

A buddy of mine has some porno playing cards we play cribbage with, and one of them has someone inserting a gold coin or token into the slot. I bet that makes for an interesting jackpot.

stkelly52 · 05-14-2003, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by Fritz
coins are hard to counterfeit

Actually, I think that coins would be easier to counterfit. Not for the general joe schmoe, but for someone who really knew what they were doing. The problem is that it is not profitable because coins arn't worth enough. If you started making $20 coins people would start making fake one.

I like the change in the $20. OK, the color is ugly, but 7 years in malaysia taught me to appreciate how much easier it is to find the correct bill you are looking for if they are all different colors (and different sizes are nice too, especially for the blind).

cuervo72 · 05-14-2003, 08:40 AM

This thread reminds me of two Seinfeld episodes...first, the one that I watched last night, where Kramer tries to pay for a calzone with all coins. The second the one where Jerry buys $100 worth of Chinese gum because he couldn't recognize a $100 bill while wearing coke-bottle glasses.

Alf · 05-14-2003, 09:00 AM

I once had a 1 000 000 zlotys bill (Polish money). It was like having Monopoly notes. FYI it was worth 400 French Francs at the time, so about 60 $...

Blade · 05-14-2003, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by Easy Mac
I think there would be a lot of lawsuits in strip clubs if we only had coins instead of ones. "hmmm, now let me put that coin in your slot..." I mean, its not like they could keep it in their g-strings.

Ok, I am jumping on this topic late, but up here, with our $1 and $2 coins, the strippers have turned it into a flicking contest. You can win things, usually posters, by flicking a $1 coin off there...well...you know, with another $1 coin...

Has made for some interesting situations, as I have heard of guys who hold the coin to a lighter before flicking...

05-13-2003, 05:29 PM	#4
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	coins are hard to counterfeit __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

05-13-2003, 06:07 PM	#8
Fritz Lethargic Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: hello kitty found my wallet at a big tent revival and returned it with all the cash missing	all this stuff they do to coins does not matter becaus the average idiot (myslef included) will take nearly anything that looks like money. The new bills mean the way you distribute the couterfeits have to change. Also, I think the rise is counterfeiting has little to do with the money we use. I think it has a lot to do with digital technology and affordable quaity printing. __________________ donkey, donkey, walk a little faster

05-13-2003, 07:36 PM	#18
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Imagine going to the strip club without paper money, you'd have to wear suspenders to keep your pants up! __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

05-13-2003, 07:44 PM	#20
ACStrider High School JV Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, TX	I have an Estonian coin that has been phased out of circulation. As of now, it's worth about a third of a penny. It's a cute little thing. __________________ "I'm evil." "Oh you are not!" "Oh I am too." -- Brak

05-13-2003, 08:26 PM	#22
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	It does surprise me we haven't gone to $1 coins. They worry people won't except them, but just do what some European countries did...make them and stop circulatiing the notes. Don't give people a choice and they'll get over it. I think coins would be easier, I always prefer them when I travel. Better than trying to stuff a bunch of crumpled ones in your wallet. As far as the $20 goes, it is funny that it was just changed within the last few years and they are changing it again. The more colorful bills with the water marks and all will help reduce counterfeiting. We do have some of the most boring looking money, not that it matters really. __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

05-13-2003, 05:06 PM	#2
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	Let me get this straight. The Feds, in their infinite wisdom, spent billions of dollars putting out all new currency to thwart (that's a funny word, thwart) counterfiting but instead, counterfiting goes up 40%?

05-13-2003, 05:41 PM	#5
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	now where'd i put that $20 coin?

05-13-2003, 06:23 PM	#12
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Did you know that if Bill Gates cashed in his net worth and took it all in pennies, the load would be heavier than the Great Pyramid of Egypt?

05-13-2003, 07:20 PM	#16
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Coins are a waste. No one wants to carry them.

05-13-2003, 07:21 PM	#17
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	well if they'd make some coins that are light and fold nicely into my wallet i wouldn't mind carrying them

05-13-2003, 07:44 PM	#19
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Coins suck ass, especially pennies

05-13-2003, 08:15 PM	#21
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	I think there would be a lot of lawsuits in strip clubs if we only had coins instead of ones. "hmmm, now let me put that coin in your slot..." I mean, its not like they could keep it in their g-strings.

05-13-2003, 08:28 PM	#23
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	FWIW, I was always pretty down on the notion of $1 & $2 coins. That's was past tense, following several days in Canada a few years ago. Actually using the coins for a few days pretty much turned me into a big fan of 'em, a heckuva lot easier than having to dig out my wallet, search for singles, etc, etc. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

05-13-2003, 11:24 PM	#24
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Of course, counterfeiting is so successful and popular because people are so stupid. I did a story once in my journalism days on counterfeiting and the types of money people passed that clerks accepted: $3 bills, money with the wrong president on them, money printed on horrible paper, money printed in wrong colors, money with words misspelled. The list goes on.

05-13-2003, 11:34 PM	#25
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	hmmm... maybe if teachers would teach kids stuff like "who was Benjamin Franklin" they might grow up to be adults who recognize a $100. sorry... threadjack of my own. I'll go back to being a right-wing annoyance in other threads. BTW, the new $20's look like they've been drenched in cat pee. Not good times. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

05-13-2003, 11:43 PM	#26
B & B College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A sports era long ago when everything didnt require a Nike logo	Anyone notice that with the disproportionate head, it looks as if Andrew Jackson is sitting on top of a Hawaiian volcano? __________________ Nobody cares about Kyle Orton because he's black. -PT

05-14-2003, 08:40 AM	#30
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	This thread reminds me of two Seinfeld episodes...first, the one that I watched last night, where Kramer tries to pay for a calzone with all coins. The second the one where Jerry buys $100 worth of Chinese gum because he couldn't recognize a $100 bill while wearing coke-bottle glasses. __________________ null

05-14-2003, 09:00 AM	#31
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	I once had a 1 000 000 zlotys bill (Polish money). It was like having Monopoly notes. FYI it was worth 400 French Francs at the time, so about 60 $... __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

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