2017 FOFC Alternate Rules Fantasy Football via Yahoo!; season complete-Comey wins!

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09/01/17

Thanks everyone for another successful draft!

Don't forget to set your lineups prior to 1st game kickoff on Thursday, September 7. Good luck!


08/28/17
Clock returns at 10 AM Eastern. We are through pick 12.5 as of this morning, updated in Yahoo and posts 4 and 5.

2 hour clock, and we should be able to get through the rest of the draft by Friday.


08/25/17

Clock goes off for the weekend at 10 PM Eastern tonight.

08/21/17

Timed draft begins today at 10 AM Eastern, running for 12 hours per day.

You have 2 hours to make your pick. Please make sure you PM the next person in line to keep things moving.

Thanks!


08/18/17
Draft order (see post #27):

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clemsonfan
CleBrownsfan
claphamsa
DavidCorperial
Comey
laser
vex
Chief Rum
ntndeacon

Soft draft begins. Monday at 10 AM Eastern, time limits will be enforced. 2 hours per pick. PM the person after you to go. Remember this is a snake draft!


08/15/17
Still need 1 player! New or returning, doesn't matter!

08/08/17

Right now, we are accepting sign-ups for the 12th season of this purely for bragging rights Fantasy League. Priority will be given to those who have been in before, but if you would like to join this year, please say so below. Typically we have 2-3 people not return, so usually plenty of slots for new owners.

If you would like to join for the upcoming season, details are below in Post #4. E-mails from Yahoo! have been sent to last year's owners. If you were in last year, your team has automatically been rejoined to the league.

If you are in the league from last year and do NOT plan on being in again, let me know so I can remove your team and free up the slot for a new owner.

Old members that are returning, please post that you are back in, and ALSO post a number between 1 and 10 that will be used to randomly assign our draft order.


If you are an old member and I do not hear from you by noon on Wednesday, August 10th, then your team will be removed from the league and we will give that team to a new member.

Players - Team Name - Joined? - Draft #
Chief Rum - Chief's Savages - IN FOR 2017 - 9
Comey - GentlyFletcheredCox - IN FOR 2017 - 1
DavidCorperial - Stamford Cyberams - IN FOR 2017 - 7
claphamsa - unstopable - IN FOR 2017 - 6
laser - Florida Fusion - IN FOR 2017 - 8
ntndeacon - Klein Bottles - IN FOR 2017 - 3
vex - Brown Bombers - IN FOR 2017 - 10
CleBrownsfan - Dawg Pound - IN FOR 2017 - 4
clemsonfan - Greenville Tigers - IN FOR 2017 - 2
Butter - Dayton Dynamo - IN FOR 2017 - 5

Non-returning Players from 2016
timmae - Tim's Team
cmp - Michigan Majors
Masked - Eleven Masked Men

Non-Returning Players from 2015
path12 - Norm
britrock88 - Regina Monologues
Julio Riddols - Tres Puntos

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Introduction

From our founding father, sterlingice:

The idea behind the FOFC Alternate Rules Football league is simple. We play with 2 QBs, playing PPR, and try to balance out all 3 of the major positions while still making the other 3 differentiated and yet valuable. In short, you need a good, balanced team across the board.

This league was started for a couple of reasons, most of which involve things I dislike about standard fantasy football leagues.

1) I absolutely hate the RB scrum that has stupidly started every fantasy football league since the dawn of time. RBs are one of the least valuable positions on the field

2) QBs are over pointed but over supplied. Most league starts 1 QB so in a 10 team league, the 11th most valuable QB is around equal to the 21st most valuable RB.

3) And to those who complain 2 QBs is not realistic, fantasy football is not about "realism". Where in the world are you going to see Adrian Peterson and Ezekiel Elliott lining up in the backfield on any play? That QB might actually *die* on the field, but that fantasy lineup would rack up a lot of fantasy points. The only time fantasy lineups could be even considered remotely realistic were the couple of years that Mike Alstott was accidentally worth something as an honest-to-goodness fullback. So, please, don't tell me that your 1 QB, 2 RB league is more realistic than this 2 QB, 2 RB league unless you're drafting fullbacks.

4) Points seemed to be based on arbitrary measurements: "Hey, a TD is worth 6 so let's make it worth 6 fantasy points". Never mind that a good QB will get in the 30s while an elite RB might get half that. So, points are balanced across the board to try and give equal weight to every skill position: QBs, workhorse RBs, receiving RBs, deep thread WRs, possession WRs, etc.

So, in short, the idea is not to game the system but to pick the players that best exceed expectations. In short- are you better at predicting players than everyone else. Is it perfect? No. But I do believe it's better than what's out there.

Alternate Rules Football History

In the first season, 2005, the Rafini Express steamrolled the rest of the league; led by Tomlinson, Palmer, Hasselbeck, and a solid receiving corps.

In 2006, Eleven Masked Men won the regular season while 5 teams were at either 9-5 or 8-6 but only three made the playoffs. The #4 and #3 seeds won in the playoffs with the balanced Marino Gets a Title winning over the LT-led Houston Hippopotami.

For 2007, there were 3 10-4 powers going into the playoffs with the Little Macs, Hawaii Haka, and Houston Hippopotami but it was the #4 seed Louisiana Cyclones who won the title after squeaking into the playoffs at 8-6.

In 2008, the league went on hiatus as sterlingice was moving cross country from Kansas City to Richmond. Guess what I'm looking to do yet again this year. *sigh*

2009 brought back the league in all its former glory with a slow, live draft and some slight scoring tweaks (I think). k0ruptr's Hawaii Ha'a dominated the regular season at 11-3 with the most points scored and won in the playoffs with a balanced team led by Adrian Peterson. Qwikshot's Quivers were the only other double digit win team but they lost in the first round of the playoffs.

2010 featured a quick, live draft as I ran out of time, having just moved to Indianapolis. Danny's Road Kill Cafe finished with the best record in the league, led by Peyton Manning and 2 RBs and 3 WRs with over 1000 yards and 6 TDs (McCoy, McFadden, Bowe, CJohnson, SMoss). He defeated #2 seed Royal Apes, led by the two headed QB monster of Vick and Rogers and RBs Jamaal Charles and Steven Jackson.

2011 returned to the standard draft albeit a sped up 2 hour format that we'll use again this year. The 4 teams that made the playoffs were the only teams with winning records. SterlingIce's Indianapolis Iguanii knocked off Julio Riddols's Tasty Punts by 0.08 in one of the semifinals. But TRO's Royal Apes prevailed in the finals, led by a combination of known commodities (Rodgers, Gore, Gates) and big surprises (Newton, Gronkowski, Matthews).

2012 also used the boards draft, with the same format as 2011. This league showcased 3 teams finishing the regular season at 10-4, and another 2 at 8-6. The playoffs found Subby's Housewives on Acid winning both legs of the Championship playoff rounds fairly handily, taking down the championship in his first year in the league.

2013 was 3 years in a row with the slow, boards draft. This year found regular season 3rd and 4th place teams Psycho Bunnies (DannysWife) and Chief's Savages (CR) fighting it out in the title game, with Psycho Bunnies winning the final game by 8 points.

2014 saw Eleven Masked Men hand Chief his 2nd straight Championship Game loss, despite being the #1 playoff seed.

2015 featured Chief Rum making his 3rd straight Championship Game in a row, and winning this time over first year player DavidCorperial's Stamford Cyberams.

2016 saw first time owner laser and his Florida Fusion take down Chief's Savages, making it 4 Championship Games in a row for Chief, but 3 losses of the 4. While I finished in the top 4 for just the second time in league history. Yay?

Rules

I'll try to outline the major points below but any writeup will be somewhat incomplete. I've been trying to make sure and balance out the three main positions. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than what's out there, in my opinion:

* First thing you'll notice is 2 QBs- your 2nd and even 3rd QB does matter, just as much as your 2nd and 3rd RBs. No more mad scramble solely for RBs.

* There are 3 WRs and they are worth 8/1 versus 10/1 for RBs and 30/1 for QBs

* TE's are a bit better than in the past, but I would still love to be able to hit them with a 1.5 * mulitiplier across the board. As that's not possible, they fall in positional value. PPR helps them, tho. As I can't, that 2nd TE has become a TE/(4th)WR slot.

* There are kind of 2 tiers of players: QBs/RBs/WRs and Ks/DEFs/TEs. The first are worth more as they are believed to be more important. However, those second tiers are still worth about 2/3rds what the first group does, and good ones can offset a bad week by a top tier player.

* There's a lot of emphasis on positional scarcity- 2 of pretty much everything in a 10 team league means 20 QBs, 20 RBs, 20 Ks, and 20 DEFs will be starting each and every week which only leaves 10 in the pool at max. You only get 5 bench spaces so use them well- no hoarding that 4th K or even 3rd K if it means dropping that injured RB who's about to come back or that backup for your stud who you have as a 4th RB.

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Scoring & Settings

In reviewing the scoring, am planning to leave it the same unless there are objections.

Setting	Value
League ID#:	254988
League Name:	FOFC Alternate Rules
Password:	dola
Custom League URL:	Sign in to Yahoo!
Draft Type:	Offline Draft
Max Teams:	10
Scoring Type:	Head-to-Head
Start Scoring on:	Week 1
Can't Cut List Provider:	Yahoo! Sports
Max Acquisitions for Entire Season:	No maximum
Max Acquisitions per Week:	No maximum
Max Trades for Entire Season	No maximum
Trade Reject Time:	1
Trade End Date:	November 11, 2017
Allow Draft Pick Trades:	No
Trade Review:	Commissioner
Waiver Time:	2 days
Waiver Type:	Continual rolling list
Weekly Waivers	Sunday - Tuesday
Post Draft Players:	Follow Waiver Rules
Invite Sharing Tools:	Enabled
Playoffs:	Week 15 and 16 (4 teams)
Playoff Reseeding:	No
Divisions:	No
Lock Eliminated Teams:	No
Roster Positions:	QB, QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/T, W/R/T, K, K, DEF, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
Fractional Points:	No
Negative Points:	Yes
Make League Publicly Viewable:	No

Offense	League Value	Yahoo! Default Value
Passing Yards	30 yards per point; 5 points at 300 yards	25 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns	5	4
Interceptions	-1
Rushing Yards	10 yards per point; 5 points at 100 yards
Rushing Touchdowns	6
Receptions	1	0
Reception Yards	8 yards per point; 5 points at 100 yards	10 yards per point
Reception Touchdowns	6
2-Point Conversions	2
Fumbles	-1	0
Fumbles Lost	-1	-2
Offensive Fumble Return TD	6
Kickers	League Value	Yahoo! Default Value
Field Goals 0-19 Yards	3
Field Goals 20-29 Yards	4	3
Field Goals 30-39 Yards	5	3
Field Goals 40-49 Yards	6	4
Field Goals 50+ Yards	7	5
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards	-2	0
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards	-1	0
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards	-1	0
Point After Attempt Made	1
Point After Attempt Missed	-1	0
Defense/Special Teams	League Value	Yahoo! Default Value
Sack	1
Interception	1	2
Fumble Recovery	1	2
Touchdown	5	6
Safety	2
Block Kick	2
Return Yards	50 yards per point	0
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns	5	6
Points Allowed 0 points	20	10
Points Allowed 1-6 points	15	7
Points Allowed 7-13 points	10	4
Points Allowed 14-20 points	5	1
Points Allowed 21-27 points	0
Points Allowed 28-34 points	-2	-1
Points Allowed 35+ points	-5	-4

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Who Can Join
Preference goes towards members who were in the league last year, but signups are open to all.

Signing Up
IF YOU ARE RETURNING, WHEN YOU SIGN UP, PUT A UNIQUE NUMBER 1-10 NEXT TO YOUR NAME. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE NEW. I will let you know once the deadline has passed for signups if you made it in the league, at that point you can select a random number 1-10 that is still available. First come, first served, for new players. I will use a random number generator to determine the draft order. I will take the final number.

Draft Format

The draft will take place in this thread once the league has been set up. It is a snake draft. If nothing changes, we'll start drafting at 10 AM Eastern on the morning of Monday, August 21st, 2017.

The season starts Thursday, September 7th. That means we have about 3 weeks to do the slow, live draft. We're going to do what we did last year with 2 hours per pick between the hours of 10am ET and 10pm ET (7 AM-7 PM Pacific) on weekdays. Hopefully we don't have to enforce this but we always have to a couple of times during the draft. If we are not making good progress by the 2nd week of the live draft, we'll shrink down the time window to 1 hour.

The evening rules are still the same. If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm Eastern), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 11am Eastern) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until noon, Eastern). We have to keep this moving and we need everyone checking every night and every morning if it's near their turn.

If there are problems in that you know your pick is coming up but you won't be online, submit a list either to myself or to a proxy drafter for you. Otherwise, you will get the next player on Yahoo's list. Maybe pick someone who is on the opposite end of the draft from you so that you likely won't be grabbing from the same pool of players anyways.

If we are not done by Tuesday, September 5th, the remaining roster spots will be filled via an as-yet detemined method which we've never had to use.

If you miss more than 2 picks in the draft (i.e. time limit expired so a Yahoo rankings pick), particularly in the first 10 rounds, then you can be replaced as manager.

After you make a draft pick, please PM the next owner up to help everyone informed.

IF YOU CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THIS SCHEDULE, DO NOT JOIN.

Rule Changes for 2017

Still chugging along. I like fractional points, but most don't so we leave them out. No major changes, as positional spread is still good among WR / QB / RB.

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Round 1
1. David Johnson (ARI - RB) - Dayton Dynamo
2. Antonio Brown (PIT - WR) - Greenville Tigers
3. LeVeon Bell (PIT - RB) - Dawg Pound
4. Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) - unstopable
5. Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
6. Julio Jones (ATL - WR) - GentlyFletcheredCox
7. Tom Brady (NE - QB) - Florida Fusion
8. LeSean McCoy (BUF - RB) - Brown Bombers
9. DeMarco Murray (TEN - RB) - Chief's Savages
10. Mike Evans (TB - WR) - Klein Bottles

Round 2
11. Devonta Freeman (ATL - RB) - Klein Bottles
12. Ezekiel Elliott (DAL - RB) - Chief's Savages
13. AJ Green (CIN - WR) - Brown Bombers
14. Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) - Florida Fusion
15. Melvin Gordon (LAC - RB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
16. Michael Thomas (NO - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
17. Drew Brees (NO - QB) - unstopable
18. Travis Kelce (KC - TE) - Dawg Pound
19. DeAndre Hopkins (HOU - WR) - Greenville Tigers
20. Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 3
21. Matt Ryan (ATL - QB) - Dayton Dynamo
22. Dez Bryant (DAL - WR) - Greenville Tigers
23. Marcus Mariota (TEN - QB) - Dawg Pound
24. TY Hilton (IND - WR) - unstopable
25. Keenan Allen (LAC - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
26. Andrew Luck (IND - QB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
27. Todd Gurley (LAR - RB) - Florida Fusion
28. Doug Baldwin (SEA - WR) - Brown Bombers
29. Russell Wilson (SEA - QB) - Chief's Savages
30. Amari Cooper (OAK - WR) - Klein Bottles

Round 4
31. Jordan Howard (CHI - RB) - Klein Bottles
32. Terrelle Pryor (WAS - WR) - Chief's Savages
33. Jameis Winston (TB - QB) - Brown Bombers
34. Jay Ajayi (MIA - RB) - Florida Fusion
35. Leonard Fournette (JAX - RB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
36. Brandin Cooks (NE - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
37. DeMaryius Thomas (DEN - WR) - unstopable
38. Isaiah Crowell (CLE - RB) - Dawg Pound
39. Cam Newton (CAR - QB) - Greenville Tigers
40. Marshawn Lynch (OAK - RB) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 5
41. Davante Adams (GB - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
42. Christian McCaffrey (CAR - RB) - Greenville Tigers
43. Alshon Jeffery (PHI - WR) - Dawg Pound
44. Lamar Miller (HOU - RB) - unstopable
45. Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
46. Kirk Cousins (WAS - QB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
47. Dak Prescott (DAL - QB) - Florida Fusion
48. Joe Mixon (CIN - RB) - Brown Bombers
49. Matthew Stafford (DET - QB) - Chief's Savages
50. Derek Carr (OAK - QB) - Klein Bottles

Round 6
51. Allen Robinson (JAX - WR) - Klein Bottles
52. Mark Ingram (NO - RB) - Chief's Savages
53. Greg Olsen (CAR - TE) - Brown Bombers
54. Jarvis Landry (MIA - WR) - Florida Fusion
55. Michael Crabtree (OAK - WR) - GentlyFletcheredCox
56. Dalvin Cook (MIN - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
57. Jordan Reed (WAS - TE) - unstopable
58. Julian Edelman (NE - WR) - Dawg Pound
59. Tyler Eifert (CIN - TE) - Greenville Tigers
60. Tyreek Hill (KC - WR) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 7
61. Martavis Bryant (PIT - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
62. Denver (DEN - DST) - Greenville Tigers
63. Ben Roethlisberger (PIT - QB) - Dawg Pound
64. Golden Tate (DET - WR) - unstopable
65. Bilal Powell (NYJ - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
66. Ty Montgomery (GB - RB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
67. Jimmy Graham (SEA - TE) - Florida Fusion
68. Stefon Diggs (MIN - WR) - Brown Bombers
69. Emmanuel Sanders (DEN - WR) - Chief's Savages
70. Eli Manning (NYG - QB) - Klein Bottles

Round 8
71. Kelvin Benjamin (CAR - WR) - Klein Bottles
72. Sammy Watkins (LAR - WR) - Chief's Savages
73. Philip Rivers (LAC - QB) - Brown Bombers
74. Carlos Hyde (SF - RB) - Florida Fusion
75. Jamison Crowder (WAS - WR) - GentlyFletcheredCox
76. Zach Ertz (PHI - TE) - Stamford Cyberams
77. Willie Snead (NO - WR) - unstopable
78. DeSean Jackson (TB - WR) - Dawg Pound
79. Spencer Ware (KC - RB) - Greenville Tigers
80. Derrick Henry (TEN - RB) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 9
81. Brandon Marshall (NYG - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
82. Delanie Walker (TEN - TE) - Greenville Tigers
83. Tyrell Williams (LAC - WR) - Dawg Pound
84. Frank Gore (IND - RB) - unstopable
85. Carson Wentz (PHI - QB) - Stamford Cyberams
86. Kyle Rudolph (MIN - TE) - GentlyFletcheredCox
87. Jeremy Maclin (BAL - WR) - Florida Fusion
88. Seattle (SEA - DST) - Brown Bombers
89. Paul Perkins (NYG - RB) - Chief's Savages
90. Danny Woodhead (BAL - RB) - Klein Bottles

Round 10
91. Eric Decker (TEN - WR) - Klein Bottles
92. Cameron Meredith (CHI - WR) - Chief's Savages
93. Pierre Garcon (SF - WR) - Brown Bombers
94. Houston (HOU - DST) - Florida Fusion
95. Donte Moncrief (IND - WR) - GentlyFletcheredCox
96. Carson Palmer (ARI - QB) - Stamford Cyberams
97. CJ Anderson (DEN - RB) - unstopable
98. Ameer Abdullah (DET - RB) - Dawg Pound
99. Andy Dalton (CIN - QB) - Greenville Tigers
100. Tyrod Taylor (BUF - QB) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 11
101. Martellus Bennett (GB - TE) - Dayton Dynamo
102. Kansas City (KC - DST) - Greenville Tigers
103. Corey Coleman (CLE - WR) - Dawg Pound
104. Eric Ebron (DET - TE) - unstopable
105. Randall Cobb (GB - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
106. Kareem Hunt (KC - RB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
107. Minnesota (MIN - DST) - Florida Fusion
108. Chris Hogan (NE - WR) - Brown Bombers
109. New York Giants (NYG - DST) - Chief's Savages
110. New England (NE - DST) - Klein Bottles

Round 12
111. Jay Cutler (MIA - QB) - Klein Bottles
112. Arizona (ARI - DST) - Chief's Savages
113. Carolina (CAR - DST) - Brown Bombers
114. Kenny Britt (CLE - WR) - Florida Fusion
115. Doug Martin (TB - RB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
116. Theo Riddick (DET - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
117. Tevin Coleman (ATL - RB) - unstopable
118. Jason Witten (DAL - TE) - Dawg Pound
119. Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K) - Greenville Tigers
120. Alex Smith (KC - QB) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 13
121. Devante Parker (MIA - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
122. Mike Gilleslee (NE - RB) - Greenville Tigers
123. Marvin Jones (DET - WR) - Dawg Pound
124. Joe Flacco (BAL - QB) - unstopable
125. CJ Prosise (SEA - RB) - Stamford Cyberams
126. John Brown (ARI - WR) - GentlyFletcheredCox
127. Justin Tucker (BAL - K) - Florida Fusion
128. Matt Bryant (ATL - K) - Brown Bombers
129. Corey Davis (TEN - WR) - Chief's Savages
130. OJ Howard (TB - TE) - Klein Bottles

Round 14
131. Eddie Lacy (SEA - RB) - Klein Bottles
132. Jack Doyle (IND - TE) - Chief's Savages
133. Dan Bailey (DAL - K) - Brown Bombers
134. Adam Vinatieri (IND - K) - Florida Fusion
135. Kevin White (CHI - WR) - GentlyFletcheredCox
136. Mike Wallace (BAL - WR) - Stamford Cyberams
137. Rishard Matthews (TEN - WR) - unstopable
138. Sebastian Janikowski (OAK - K) - Dawg Pound
139. Mason Crosby (GB - K) - Greenville Tigers
140. Graham Gano (CAR - K) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 15
141. Baltimore (BAL - DST) - Dayton Dynamo
142. Deshaun Watson (HOU - QB) - Greenville Tigers
143. Pittsburgh (PIT - DST) - Dawg Pound
144. Green Bay (GB - DST) - unstopable
145. Chris Boswell (PIT - K) - Stamford Cyberams
146. Jacksonville (JAX - DST) - GentlyFletcheredCox
147. Adrian Peterson (NO - RB) - Florida Fusion
148. Sterling Shepard (NYG - WR) - Brown Bombers
149. Terrance West (BAL - RB) - Chief's Savages
150. Atlanta (ATL - DST) - Klein Bottles

Round 16
151. Evan Engram (NYG - TE) - Klein Bottles
152. Jared Goff (LAR - QB) - Chief's Savages
153. Trevor Siemian (DEN - QB) - Brown Bombers
154. Jordan Matthews (BUF - WR) - Florida Fusion
155. Philadelphia (PHI - DST) - GentlyFletcheredCox
156. Cairo Santos (KC - K) - Stamford Cyberams
157. Steven Hauschka (BUF - K) - unstopable
158. Sam Bradford (MIN - QB) - Dawg Pound
159. Darren McFadden (DAL - RB) - Greenville Tigers
160. Duke Johnson (CLE - RB) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 17
161. Zay Jones (BUF - WR) - Dayton Dynamo
162. Adam Thielen (MIN - WR) - Greenville Tigers
163. Matt Prater (DET - K) - Dawg Pound
164. Cincinnati (CIN - DST) - unstopable
165. Brian Hoyer (SF - QB) - Stamford Cyberams
166. Blake Bortles (JAX - QB) - GentlyFletcheredCox
167. Jamaal Charles (DEN - RB) - Florida Fusion
168. Darren Sproles (PHI - RB) - Brown Bombers
169. Mohamed Sanu (ATL - WR) - Chief's Savages
170. Rob Kelley (WAS - RB) - Klein Bottles

Round 18
171. Brandon McManus (DEN - K) - Klein Bottles
172. Hunter Henry (LAC - TE) - Chief's Savages
173. Antonio Gates (LAC - TE) - Brown Bombers
174. Julius Thomas (MIA - TE) - Florida Fusion
175. Dustin Hopkins (WAS - K) - GentlyFletcheredCox
176. Buffalo (BUF - DST) - Stamford Cyberams
177. Blair Walsh (SEA - K) - unstopable
178. Jacquizz Rodgers (TB - RB) - Dawg Pound
179. Thomas Rawls (SEA - RB) - Greenville Tigers
180. LA Rams (LAR - DST) - Dayton Dynamo

Round 19
181. Wil Lutz (NO - K) - Dayton Dynamo
182. Josh Doctson (WAS - WR) - Greenville Tigers
183. ( - ) - Dawg Pound
184. ( - ) - unstopable
185. ( - ) - Stamford Cyberams
186. ( - ) - GentlyFletcheredCox
187. ( - ) - Florida Fusion
188. ( - ) - Brown Bombers
189. ( - ) - Chief's Savages
190. ( - ) - Klein Bottles

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Dayton Dynamo
1. (1) David Johnson (ARI - RB)
2. (20) Rob Gronkowski (NE - TE)
3. (21) Matt Ryan (ATL - QB)
4. (40) Marshawn Lynch (OAK - RB)
5. (41) Davante Adams (GB - WR)
6. (60) Tyreek Hill (KC - WR)
7. (61) Martavis Bryant (PIT - WR)
8. (80) Derrick Henry (TEN - RB)
9. (81) Brandon Marshall (NYG - WR)
10. (100) Tyrod Taylor (BUF - QB)
11. (101) Martellus Bennett (GB - TE)
12. (120) Alex Smith (KC - QB)
13. (121) Devante Parker (MIA - WR)
14. (140) Graham Gano (CAR - K)
15. (141) Baltimore (BAL - DST)
16. (160) Duke Johnson (CLE - RB)
17. (161) Zay Jones (BUF - WR)
18. (180) LA Rams (LAR - DST)
19. (181) Wil Lutz (NO - K)

Greenville Tigers
1. (2) Antonio Brown (PIT - WR)
2. (19) DeAndre Hopkins (HOU - WR)
3. (22) Dez Bryant (DAL - WR)
4. (39) Cam Newton (CAR - QB)
5. (42) Christian McCaffrey (CAR - RB)
6. (59) Tyler Eifert (CIN - TE)
7. (62) Denver (DEN - DST)
8. (79) Spencer Ware (KC - RB)
9. (82) Delanie Walker (TEN - TE)
10. (99) Andy Dalton (CIN - QB)
11. (102) Kansas City (KC - DST)
12. (119) Stephen Gostkowski (NE - K)
13. (122) Mike Gilleslee (NE - RB)
14. (139) Mason Crosby (GB - K)
15. (142) Deshaun Watson (HOU - QB)
16. (159) Darren McFadden (DAL - RB)
17. (162) Adam Thielen (MIN - WR)
18. (179) Thomas Rawls (SEA - RB)
19. (182) Josh Doctson (WAS - WR)

Dawg Pound
1. (3) LeVeon Bell (PIT - RB)
2. (18) Travis Kelce (KC - TE)
3. (23) Marcus Mariota (TEN - QB)
4. (38) Isaiah Crowell (CLE - RB)
5. (43) Alshon Jeffery (PHI - WR)
6. (58) Julian Edelman (NE - WR)
7. (63) Ben Roethlisberger (PIT - QB)
8. (78) DeSean Jackson (TB - WR)
9. (83) Tyrell Williams (LAC - WR)
10. (98) Ameer Abdullah (DET - RB)
11. (103) Corey Coleman (CLE - WR)
12. (118) Jason Witten (DAL - TE)
13. (123) Marvin Jones (DET - WR)
14. (138) Sebastian Janikowski (OAK - K)
15. (143) Pittsburgh (PIT - DST)
16. (158) Sam Bradford (MIN - QB)
17. (163) Matt Prater (DET - K)
18. (178) Jacquizz Rodgers (TB - RB)
19. (183) 0 (0 - 0)

unstopable
1. (4) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB)
2. (17) Drew Brees (NO - QB)
3. (24) TY Hilton (IND - WR)
4. (37) DeMaryius Thomas (DEN - WR)
5. (44) Lamar Miller (HOU - RB)
6. (57) Jordan Reed (WAS - TE)
7. (64) Golden Tate (DET - WR)
8. (77) Willie Snead (NO - WR)
9. (84) Frank Gore (IND - RB)
10. (97) CJ Anderson (DEN - RB)
11. (104) Eric Ebron (DET - TE)
12. (117) Tevin Coleman (ATL - RB)
13. (124) Joe Flacco (BAL - QB)
14. (137) Rishard Matthews (TEN - WR)
15. (144) Green Bay (GB - DST)
16. (157) Steven Hauschka (BUF - K)
17. (164) Cincinnati (CIN - DST)
18. (177) Blair Walsh (SEA - K)
19. (184) 0 (0 - 0)

Stamford Cyberams
1. (5) Odell Beckham Jr. (NYG - WR)
2. (16) Michael Thomas (NO - WR)
3. (25) Keenan Allen (LAC - WR)
4. (36) Brandin Cooks (NE - WR)
5. (45) Larry Fitzgerald (ARI - WR)
6. (56) Dalvin Cook (MIN - RB)
7. (65) Bilal Powell (NYJ - RB)
8. (76) Zach Ertz (PHI - TE)
9. (85) Carson Wentz (PHI - QB)
10. (96) Carson Palmer (ARI - QB)
11. (105) Randall Cobb (GB - WR)
12. (116) Theo Riddick (DET - RB)
13. (125) CJ Prosise (SEA - RB)
14. (136) Mike Wallace (BAL - WR)
15. (145) Chris Boswell (PIT - K)
16. (156) Cairo Santos (KC - K)
17. (165) Brian Hoyer (SF - QB)
18. (176) Buffalo (BUF - DST)
19. (185) 0 (0 - 0)

GentlyFletcheredCox
1. (6) Julio Jones (ATL - WR)
2. (15) Melvin Gordon (LAC - RB)
3. (26) Andrew Luck (IND - QB)
4. (35) Leonard Fournette (JAX - RB)
5. (46) Kirk Cousins (WAS - QB)
6. (55) Michael Crabtree (OAK - WR)
7. (66) Ty Montgomery (GB - RB)
8. (75) Jamison Crowder (WAS - WR)
9. (86) Kyle Rudolph (MIN - TE)
10. (95) Donte Moncrief (IND - WR)
11. (106) Kareem Hunt (KC - RB)
12. (115) Doug Martin (TB - RB)
13. (126) John Brown (ARI - WR)
14. (135) Kevin White (CHI - WR)
15. (146) Jacksonville (JAX - DST)
16. (155) Philadelphia (PHI - DST)
17. (166) Blake Bortles (JAX - QB)
18. (175) Dustin Hopkins (WAS - K)
19. (186) 0 (0 - 0)

Florida Fusion
1. (7) Tom Brady (NE - QB)
2. (14) Jordy Nelson (GB - WR)
3. (27) Todd Gurley (LAR - RB)
4. (34) Jay Ajayi (MIA - RB)
5. (47) Dak Prescott (DAL - QB)
6. (54) Jarvis Landry (MIA - WR)
7. (67) Jimmy Graham (SEA - TE)
8. (74) Carlos Hyde (SF - RB)
9. (87) Jeremy Maclin (BAL - WR)
10. (94) Houston (HOU - DST)
11. (107) Minnesota (MIN - DST)
12. (114) Kenny Britt (CLE - WR)
13. (127) Justin Tucker (BAL - K)
14. (134) Adam Vinatieri (IND - K)
15. (147) Adrian Peterson (NO - RB)
16. (154) Jordan Matthews (BUF - WR)
17. (167) Jamaal Charles (DEN - RB)
18. (174) Julius Thomas (MIA - TE)
19. (187) 0 (0 - 0)

Brown Bombers
1. (8) LeSean McCoy (BUF - RB)
2. (13) AJ Green (CIN - WR)
3. (28) Doug Baldwin (SEA - WR)
4. (33) Jameis Winston (TB - QB)
5. (48) Joe Mixon (CIN - RB)
6. (53) Greg Olsen (CAR - TE)
7. (68) Stefon Diggs (MIN - WR)
8. (73) Philip Rivers (LAC - QB)
9. (88) Seattle (SEA - DST)
10. (93) Pierre Garcon (SF - WR)
11. (108) Chris Hogan (NE - WR)
12. (113) Carolina (CAR - DST)
13. (128) Matt Bryant (ATL - K)
14. (133) Dan Bailey (DAL - K)
15. (148) Sterling Shepard (NYG - WR)
16. (153) Trevor Siemian (DEN - QB)
17. (168) Darren Sproles (PHI - RB)
18. (173) Antonio Gates (LAC - TE)
19. (188) 0 (0 - 0)

Chief's Savages
1. (9) DeMarco Murray (TEN - RB)
2. (12) Ezekiel Elliott (DAL - RB)
3. (29) Russell Wilson (SEA - QB)
4. (32) Terrelle Pryor (WAS - WR)
5. (49) Matthew Stafford (DET - QB)
6. (52) Mark Ingram (NO - RB)
7. (69) Emmanuel Sanders (DEN - WR)
8. (72) Sammy Watkins (LAR - WR)
9. (89) Paul Perkins (NYG - RB)
10. (92) Cameron Meredith (CHI - WR)
11. (109) New York Giants (NYG - DST)
12. (112) Arizona (ARI - DST)
13. (129) Corey Davis (TEN - WR)
14. (132) Jack Doyle (IND - TE)
15. (149) Terrance West (BAL - RB)
16. (152) Jared Goff (LAR - QB)
17. (169) Mohamed Sanu (ATL - WR)
18. (172) Hunter Henry (LAC - TE)
19. (189) 0 (0 - 0)

Klein Bottles
1. (10) Mike Evans (TB - WR)
2. (11) Devonta Freeman (ATL - RB)
3. (30) Amari Cooper (OAK - WR)
4. (31) Jordan Howard (CHI - RB)
5. (50) Derek Carr (OAK - QB)
6. (51) Allen Robinson (JAX - WR)
7. (70) Eli Manning (NYG - QB)
8. (71) Kelvin Benjamin (CAR - WR)
9. (90) Danny Woodhead (BAL - RB)
10. (91) Eric Decker (TEN - WR)
11. (110) New England (NE - DST)
12. (111) Jay Cutler (MIA - QB)
13. (130) OJ Howard (TB - TE)
14. (131) Eddie Lacy (SEA - RB)
15. (150) Atlanta (ATL - DST)
16. (151) Evan Engram (NYG - TE)
17. (170) Rob Kelley (WAS - RB)
18. (171) Brandon McManus (DEN - K)
19. (190) 0 (0 - 0)

[claphamsa]

I am in, 6

[ntndeacon]

I'm back. #3

[Chief Rum]

I'm in. Give me 9.

[Masked]

In 2

I'd like to return but the start of the draft will be rough as I am travelling on the 21st and 22nd, will be around the computer very little, and may not have mobile access. I'll get a draft list together and provide it to someone once the draft order is set.

[laser]

Count me in. Number 8.

[DavidCorperial]

Coming back with 7. Should you also mention that I won my semifinal match and then had a point given to my opponent to tie the match and giving them the win due to seeding and I would've won the championship if I had made it?

[Comey]

I'm in. #1.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by DavidCorperial

Coming back with 7. Should you also mention that I won my semifinal match and then had a point given to my opponent to tie the match and giving them the win due to seeding and I would've won the championship if I had made it?

I need the full story of what happened. I was really only paying attention to my match, which I lost in a squeaker.

Considering that I lost a semifinal one year by .03 points when we were doing fractional points, after the other semifinalist had a yard added to a player via a stat correction, This turned my .07 point win into a .03 point loss.

http://forums.operationsports.com/fo...t=79059&page=2

From 2010. Not that I'm bitter.

I will be sympathetic.

[DavidCorperial]

I never figured out who on his team got given a point, just that someone did on a stat correction and lost because of that.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DavidCorperial

I never figured out who on his team got given a point, just that someone did on a stat correction and lost because of that.

I have both benefited and lost because of stuff like this. While I certainly believe there should be a cut off point after which stat corrections should not affect previously final results, I view it as, if the stat correction is correct as determined by NFL statisticians, then good enough for me, tio, whatever the result.

It does suck tremendously to lose on something like that, though.

[Butter]

Bump, still looking for 2 more players.

[vex]

I'd like to join. #10

[CleBrownsfan]

My league of 18 years just folded So count me in!! I'll take number 4

[Butter]

Unless I hear from the previous 2 owners today, it looks like we have our 2 newest owners.

More detail forthcoming, including draft order as soon as we get a draft number from vex.

[Masked]

Originally Posted by Masked

In 2

I'd like to return but the start of the draft will be rough as I am travelling on the 21st and 22nd, will be around the computer very little, and may not have mobile access. I'll get a draft list together and provide it to someone once the draft order is set.

After further thought, I am not going to be able to return this year. I won't be able to keep up with the draft.

[Butter]

Vex and CleBrownsfan have been sent invites to take over existing teams. Once you take them over, you can change their names, logos, etc.

We still have 1 spot open, and draft numbers 2 and 5 are still available. New person gets one of those, and I get the one they don't choose.

[Butter]

Still need one more player! Draft starts next Monday!

[Butter]

Don't everybody fall all over themselves at once to join.

If we don't get one within the next couple of days, I may have to enact emergency protocol and draft my wife into playing.

[Butter]

If we don't get another joiner by tomorrow, my wife is in and I'll pull the draft order at that time.

[Butter]

My wife is in (boards' name - clemsonfan). She is taking draft #2.

That leaves me with draft #5.

[Butter]

Random Sequence Generator

Here is your sequence:

5
2
4
6
7
1
8
10
9
3

Timestamp: 2017-08-18 14:42:05 UTC

[Butter]

That puts me at #1 and my wife at #2. Well.

If anyone has a strong issue with that, let me know. That was the first sequence I ran at random.org, but I could run again if anyone feels uncomfortable.

[ntndeacon]

The only issue I have is that I'm dead last.

Really it looks fine to me.

[Butter]

Draft is beginning now. No time limits until Monday at 10 AM Eastern, at which point we will be enforcing a 2 hour per pick time limit.

I have to go with the obvious:

1.1 David Johnson, RB, ARI

[Butter]

Wife says:

1.2 WR Antonio Brown, PIT

[Butter]

Also, CleBrownsfan, you may want to change the name of your team. Unless your name is Tim, in which case, maybe it fits you perfectly.

[CleBrownsfan]

Hate taking a Steeler in the 1st round but I think I have to here:

1.3 L.Bell RB Pitt

[claphamsa]

1.4 a Rodgers gb

[DavidCorperial]

1.5 Odell Beckham Jr. WR NYG

[Comey]

1.6 WR Julio Jones, ATL

[laser]

1.7 Tom Brady QB New England Patriots

[vex]

1.8 RB LeSean McCoy BUF

[Chief Rum]

1.9 RB DeMarco Murray, TEN

[ntndeacon]

1.10 WR Mike Evans,TB
2.1 RB Devonta Freeman Atl

[Chief Rum]

2.2 RB Ezekiel Elliott, DAL

Yes, I know. Calculated risk.

[vex]

2.3 WR A.J. Green CIN

[laser]

2.4. Jordy Nelson WR Green Bay Packers

[Comey]

2.5 RB Melvin Gordon, LAC

So not the pick I want to make, but I'm stuck. Is it too early to already hate my team?

[DavidCorperial]

2.6 Michael Thomas WR NO

[claphamsa]

qb drew Brees nola

[Butter]

CleBrownsfan's time is up.

I PMd him.

My wife takes:

2.9 WR DeAndre Hopkins, HOU

[Butter]

2.10 TE Rob Gronkowski, NE
3.1 QB Matt Ryan, ATL

[Butter]

Wife takes:

3.2 WR Dez Bryant, DAL

[Butter]

CleBrownsfan is back on the clock. 2 more hours, then clap is back up.