Civilization 7 announced

[cartman]

Well, not officially yet, but 2K prematurely posted a banner on their website. Official announcement expected today.

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[albionmoonlight]

I never could get into 6.

People say that once you did, it was amazing. I just, for whatever reason, could not.

I'll try fresh with 7 when it comes out

[NobodyHere]

Oh happy days! I hope they bring back the Civ2 Advisor Council!

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I never could get into 6.

People say that once you did, it was amazing. I just, for whatever reason, could not.

I'll try fresh with 7 when it comes out

Same. Meanwhile, I'm still playing the crap out of the player-modded Colonization. Best/most addictive/longest replay value game I've ever played in my life.

[bhlloy]

It’s a funny one - I get an urge to play it once ever 9-12 months, restart a game a few times, play through to the end and then couldn’t consider starting a new one. Compared to the hours I put into early versions - some of it is age and free time related, but it’s definitely missing a certain something.

I fully expect 7 will come with 4 civs at launch, a medium size map and about 40% of the current features and the rest will be DLC.

[Thomkal]

Damn, you beat me to the punch Cartman!


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[Passacaglia]

I feel like it's so rare that I play Civilization all the way through, starting with like Civ 3. But my kids love Civ 6, and all the different leaders get them interested in history (but maybe it's the other way around). So I'm excited for 7, but the kids have said they want to stick with 6. I think bhlloy is right, too, so it will be a while before 7 will have enough leaders to make it worthwhile for them anyway.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Same. Meanwhile, I'm still playing the crap out of the player-modded Colonization. Best/most addictive/longest replay value game I've ever played in my life.

Which one is that?

[Ksyrup]

We the People, which completely revolutionized (pun intended!) the crappy vanilla Civ IV reboot of the original Colonization which I played so little I acutally went back to play the 90s DOS version instead. And then a couple of mods popped up - RAR, now WTP - and turned it into an incredible game.

I will say, though, that in expanding it well beyond what anyone could have envisioned, the deepness does come with a lot of complexity. So much so that people have put together downloadable charts to help figure out how all of the resources/materials fit together and what is needed to build certain goods, units and ships.

Civ4Col - We The People | CivFanatics Forums

[Edward64]

Great news!

I play Civ 6 on a regular basis. I do often stop before 1000-1400 AD because the end game is a slog but really enjoy the 1H.

Looking forward to buying it.

[Edward64]

More details in August. Supposedly, release is sometime in 2025.

I really hope they do beta testing like BG instead of Starfield.

[Thomkal]

Using the hype over Civ7 announcement, Steam has discounts on most(?) Civ games including 95% off Civ 6 for $3

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Same. Meanwhile, I'm still playing the crap out of the player-modded Colonization. Best/most addictive/longest replay value game I've ever played in my life.

Which Civ do I need to play that? I may get it during the steam sale this week.

[Ksyrup]

Civ IV: Colonization.

[Edward64]

Excited. One of my earlier computer games. I’ve played every version (didn’t like the one with stacks of doom), still play Civ 6. Really looking forward to Civ 7.

The first Civilization 7 gameplay is being shown at this month's Gamescom Opening Night Live, Firaxis has revealed

The biggest con is end game is a slog (1800+) and I don’t have enough time to enjoy my modern weapons. So make it last longer but make it less of a slog.

[Thomkal]

gamescon had a trailer for Civ 7 today and a couple of weeks ago, Nookrium and others got to tour the studio and get about 3 hours of play:


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[Thomkal]

quill18 has also played Civ 7 and has videos up

[Edward64]

Watched several reviews, I like this one best. Lots of changes, a little nervous about some of the bigger ones but looking forward to Feb release date

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Edward64

The biggest con is end game is a slog (1800+) and I don’t have enough time to enjoy my modern weapons. So make it last longer but make it less of a slog.

Just seeing this post today, and it poked my "hmm ..." button a little.

So I'm wondering, I guess, "what does what you described look like exactly?"

I'm reading it as something along the lines of "more ... incremental"? So that you have more new shiny toys to play with more often?

Or is it "speed up some parts to the modern era faster? Making that modern era last longer?"

Not nitpicking you or anything at all, just trying to see if I understand what change(s) you're really wishing for.

[Coffee Warlord]

Humankind 2?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Humankind 2?

yeah I kinda had that thought too-like they were borrowing some stuff from Humankind

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Just seeing this post today, and it poked my "hmm ..." button a little.

So I'm wondering, I guess, "what does what you described look like exactly?"

I'm reading it as something along the lines of "more ... incremental"? So that you have more new shiny toys to play with more often?

Or is it "speed up some parts to the modern era faster? Making that modern era last longer?"

Not nitpicking you or anything at all, just trying to see if I understand what change(s) you're really wishing for.

I want the modern era last longer but streamlining some "stuff" to make it less tedious. I play King and with biggest/longest game.

Some examples ...

With Religion in late game, there are so many missionaries, apostles etc. running around trying to convert or reconvert cities. It's a major hassle fighting those heathens and also the secular wars.

With Space race, there is an inevitable rush to build spaceports/modules and defend what you have. I don't think there is enough time to enjoy my new shiny toys because a good chunk of my production is going towards winning the space race.

With Domination, the more you get, the more you have to manage, repair etc. Some cities you want to optimize for production, science, gold etc. You need to build railroads to connect cities. You need to keep them happy and not rebelling etc.

I'm not sure if its just me or my playstyle, but I don't use airpower as much as tanks, mech infantry etc. I think there is an imbalance there and think they should make air and naval power more relevant in late stages.

Just my 2 cents.

[Edward64]

An article that describes more eloquently my issue. Read article on what they are doing about it.

Firaxis' big swing with Civilization VII? Convincing players to actually finish their games

"The number [of people who completed a game of Civ VI] was surprisingly, depressingly—whatever adjective you want to put in there—low. It was less than 50 percent. So, why is that happening?," he asks.

The short answer is 'pacing.' He says your average Civilization player might spend 15 to 20 hours completing a single game. As the hours pass and empires grow, the managerial elements become more pronounced, leaving players needing to complete a exponentially growing list of tasks just to get through a turn.

Beach claims players "hated" the pacing of Civilization VI. It's an admission that resulted in Firaxis conducting individual postmortems of each system to learn when they pushed "important, strategic decisions you don't have to make more than every five to 10 minutes," and when they demanded players make "tiresome 'click here, click here, click, here' decisions that just aren't very interesting."

[NobodyHere]

Looks like I may need to upgrade my intel gen 4 processor

Civ 7 specs

[Edward64]

Some initial playthrough thoughts.

Looking forward to it. I'll buy it in first month but plan to be patient with the inevitable patch 1-2 releases.

Some 20 hours in, I can say that Civilization 7's age transitions are the series' most radical and disruptive mechanic yet | PC Gamer

Even in the midst of my Civ 7 review, I can say that the question of whether this is the best iteration yet will probably be redundant until all the expansions roll out and we see the full vision enacted. What I can say is that its biggest, boldest shake-up to the series formula gave me a frisson of excitement at a point in the game where things might have started stagnating in previous iterations. That, already, is a major milestone passed on Civ 7's legacy path.

Just a moment...

For the moment however, having played it for several hours, it’s hard to imagine a strategy game that’s equally coherent and complete. The systemic changes may dissuade long-term series loyalists. The finer problems of balance and late-game pacing might only become apparent after launch. But taken in aggregate, it seems like Firaxis has successfully made a different, more in-depth, and evocative 4X game without compromising either Civilization’s identity or the game’s – and the studio’s – reputation for mechanical clarity.

[Thomkal]

Quill18 has some limited gameplay on his channel now. There are probably others if you look around?


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[Thomkal]

And Nookrium

[Passacaglia]

Is there a benefit to preordering?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Is there a benefit to preordering?

Depending on what edition you are preordering, you can get an extra leader and civ, early access and extra content packs and 6 DLC's that will be available before the end of the year I think. The Standard preorder only gets you the extra leader and civ, so I would say not much if you go that route:


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[Passacaglia]

Okay thanks! So you can only get those extra leaders and civs if you preorder? I feel like I'm just going to say "shut up and take my money" and get the highest package, since I assume I'll want all the DLC anyway.

[Ksyrup]

Considering getting this since the release lines up with vacation, and I'm looking for the best price on the Founders' Edition. Anyone know if some of the places offering it at a discount are reputable? I see a place called Instant Gaming has it for $95 when it lists for $130. Another place called CDKeys has it for $100. I'd be happy saving $30 but not sure if it's going to be vaporware coming from one of these places. Most of the reputable places have it for $125-130, so little to no discount.

Anyone have experience buying a discounted game from one of these sites?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Considering getting this since the release lines up with vacation, and I'm looking for the best price on the Founders' Edition. Anyone know if some of the places offering it at a discount are reputable? I see a place called Instant Gaming has it for $95 when it lists for $130. Another place called CDKeys has it for $100. I'd be happy saving $30 but not sure if it's going to be vaporware coming from one of these places. Most of the reputable places have it for $125-130, so little to no discount.

Anyone have experience buying a discounted game from one of these sites?

I think I might have ordered something once from Instant Gaming. Looking at Reddit, seems most people don't have a problem with them. Not sure about CDKeys.


This is a listing of the current prices for the Founders Edition-all should be reputable sites. Looks like Green Man Gaming and Fanatical have a code to get it a bit cheaper right now. Used both before with no problems.


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[Ksyrup]

Thanks. Might give it a shot. Surprisingly, my 2+ year old Legion is above or pretty close to the Recommended specs so I shouldn't have a problem running it.

[GrantDawg]

I have bought things from CDKeys in the past. I have used G2A a good bit recently, but they aren't offering any big discounts on Civ 7 right now. They are both supposed to be legit. They just take advantage of regional pricing and exchange rates to get deals, as well as buy in bulk when a game goes on a hot sale.

[SlyBelle1]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Considering getting this since the release lines up with vacation, and I'm looking for the best price on the Founders' Edition. Anyone know if some of the places offering it at a discount are reputable? I see a place called Instant Gaming has it for $95 when it lists for $130. Another place called CDKeys has it for $100. I'd be happy saving $30 but not sure if it's going to be vaporware coming from one of these places. Most of the reputable places have it for $125-130, so little to no discount.

Anyone have experience buying a discounted game from one of these sites?

Have used both places often and have never had an issue. Only thing you need to watch out for is the timing of their release for pre-orders. Sometimes they don't release the same time as other places, especially if some kind of pre release special. But otherwise, no issue for me.

[Passacaglia]

Is there a way you can buy the game such that you can install the same copy on two computers at the same time or am I living in 2005?

[SlyBelle1]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Is there a way you can buy the game such that you can install the same copy on two computers at the same time or am I living in 2005?

When you buy from steam and run on steam, you can play the game on any computer you have Steam installed as long as logged into purchase account. As for the save game data, if the game saves to the cloud, you can then even share that data

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by SlyBelle1

When you buy from steam and run on steam, you can play the game on any computer you have Steam installed as long as logged into purchase account. As for the save game data, if the game saves to the cloud, you can then even share that data

Oh thanks! But is it possible for both computers to play in a multiplayer game?

[SlyBelle1]

You can’t login to both versions of the game at the same time

[NobodyHere]

Looks like reviews are trickling in. Metacritic has it at an 81 right now. I was hoping for a little bit better.

[bhlloy]

Oof. Those reviews from even the usually fluffy places sound like a game I don't really have much interest in playing, at least not at release.

[RainMaker]

Don't most Civ games suck at launch?

[Schmidty]

I am so skeptical about this one, but I've bought every version since 2, so I'm grabbing this. I haven't read this thread yet, but I'm trying to figure out the difference between the two premium packages. If it just pays for DLC that is scheduled to come out in the future, I'm passing on the premium.

I've been playing the shit out of 6 with all of the DLCs for the past month, and I'm loving it all over again. The difficulty with certain victories is too easy, but still fun. Like I said, I'm very skeptical of the different civs for 3 eras thing in 7 though.

[Edward64]

List of reviews here

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[Coffee Warlord]

Forced Civ changes during the eras. I was hoping you could choose to stay with your nation, but nope.

This excerpt pretty much makes this a nope for me:

Another factor to consider is that each era transition is basically a soft reset for all players. Once the progress meter hits 100% due to turn advancements or Legacy milestones, all construction projects, wonders, and related missions end abruptly--for everyone. One moment, you might be actively participating and enjoying tasks like sending out treasure fleets or spreading your religion far and wide, and the next, those mechanics are gone for good. Even all your units, regardless of where they might be, are removed from the map, only for period-specific variants to spawn randomly across your empire at the start of the next age. The concept itself would be the equivalent of Mehmed the Conqueror arriving at the gates of Constantinople, only to get magically teleported to Edirne because the Aztecs discovered the last holy relic that they needed.

And no modern/information era. Game ends at like ww2 tech.

Was already not excited, now I'm less.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I think I might have ordered something once from Instant Gaming. Looking at Reddit, seems most people don't have a problem with them. Not sure about CDKeys.


This is a listing of the current prices for the Founders Edition-all should be reputable sites. Looks like Green Man Gaming and Fanatical have a code to get it a bit cheaper right now. Used both before with no problems.


Too Many Requests

Just pre-ordered founders edition for $93.23 on InstantGaming. Hopefully that works.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Just pre-ordered founders edition for $93.23 on InstantGaming. Hopefully that works.

Yay!

[Passacaglia]

So I've read a lot about how it's different, but is there like a regular manual that's available yet?

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

And no modern/information era. Game ends at like ww2 tech.

Was already not excited, now I'm less.

I wonder if they did this because they plan to release a DLC that focuses on it.

[bhlloy]

I thought the same and I don’t think there is too much to wonder about it. It’s an absolute given that’s what they intend to do IMO, and that’s just the state of the market today unfortunately.